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Re: Using Waterfox

Dave Durber
 

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber







Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

I think it does, but I'm not absolutely certain.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

does Waterfox still use the old extension API? I know a few people who've switched away from other FF forks when that API was security patched, but wasn't sure if Waterfox was one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
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Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

I don't know about that particular programme. However there was a discussion
on another list recently about video editing software. Of course a totally
blind person will never be able to use all of the features of such a product
to their best advantage, but there's no reason why some of the functions
can't be accessible.

Goldwave is an audio editor. It can extract audio from some video file
containers, but it will not work with video content at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: February 14, 2019 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi I wouldn't think it would be since it is photos and vidiows and I am not
shure of any video or photo softwair except say goldwave but that is only
for audio I think maybe video to that is accessible with jaws. Hth. From
Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: February 13, 2019 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video
editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscribe@groups.io if you want to talk blind
technology!!


Re: Keyboard Malfunction

JM Casey
 

It sounds like a physical malfunction to me, too. I have had this happen with a built-in keyboard before.

 

Better plug in an external.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Keyboard Malfunction

 

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper


Re: Using Waterfox

JM Casey
 

Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned to.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


Re: waterfox with jaws

netbat66
 

try the portible version. then you can find out for yourself without installing it or messing up firefox if you have it installed.
with the full version, if you uninstall it it will delete files the firefox version uses and it probibly won't run after the full version of waterfox has been uninstalled.
this does not apply to the portible version.
with this you only have to delete the waterfox folder.


Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've
downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

























Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 

Well, I don't care what the Waterfox site says.  It does not work on my 32 bit Windows 7 desktop.


Gerald

On 2/14/2019 11:44 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Mike:

When I went to the Waterfox download site this morning, it did say, that Waterfox is for 64 and 32 BIT systems.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Does Waterfox  work with 32 bit.  That's what my computer is. I've downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work
as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1






























Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Richard Turner
 


Doug is a program manager with the Narrator team at Microsoft and will be at CSUN.
Here is a link to the Microsoft Accessibility blog:


Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,
I’d heard that He’s now at Microsoft but I wasn’t sure in what capacity. I wonder if he’s somehow responsible for the progress made with Narrator. With Doug at the helm, good things are surely in store. I wish him all the best.


On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray?  Is he still part of VFO








Re: waterfox with jaws

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:

When I went to the Waterfox download site this morning, it did say, that Waterfox is for 64 and 32 BIT systems.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@...> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

























Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello Sieghard:

Thank you for your very precice instructions. My Dropbox file folder, has been moved from the system drive, to the f drive, using the same path structure.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Here is what I do, I am telling you what I press and include what Jaws said from speech history:

Press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and arrow to Dropbox:
Dropbox 66.4.84 up to date, 5 of 14
Press enter and you should hear:
tray-window - press enter again on that and you hear:
Context Menu
Open Dropbox folder - I now down arrow through all the options:
Launch Dropbox website
Launch Dropbox Paper
Recently changed files sub menu
48.7% of 11.2GB used Unavailable
Get more space
Up to date Unavailable
Pause syncing
Snooze notifications sub menu
Preferences...
Help center
Exit
I suggest you definitely don't try to move the Dropbox folder because I doubt Dropbox would then work, you need to go into Preferences and tell Dropbox where you want the folder to be. So, arrow to Preferences and press enter.
Now use Control + Tab to find the "Sync" tab:
Dropbox Preferences
Account Tab
Import Tab
Bandwidth Tab
Proxies Tab
Notifications Tab
Sync Tab - press tab now, the first couple of times you won't hear anything, then you hear the following:
OK Enter Button - continue to press tab
Cancel Enter Button
Apply Enter Button
Selective Sync... Enter Select which folders sync to this computer: Select which folders you want to see on this computer. Any folders you unselect won't be shown on this computer, but you can still access them on dropbox.com.
Move... Enter Dropbox folder location Choose where your Dropbox is located on your computer. All your Dropbox files will be saved in this folder.
Press enter on that and you should be able to specify the new location.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"
menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


Re: Keyboard Malfunction

Chris Hill
 

I can't think of any setting that could explain your problem.  Sounds to me like the keyboard is failing.  Plug in an external keyboard instead.



On 2/14/2019 10:00, Ed Culpepper wrote:

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper


Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:
 
When I close Dropbox, I do not seem to be able to access Dropbox to change the location of the Dropbox folder.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hi Dave,
 
To close Dropbox, press enter on the Dropbox icon in the system tray.  If you hear, Edit, press enter again, arrow up 1 time to, Exit, and press enter.  This will close Dropbox.
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hi,

You don't do it that way, first you need to change the location in Dropbox
settings.  Then Dropbox will move the stuff for you.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 11 February 2019 12:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber









Using Waterfox

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


Keyboard Malfunction

Ed Culpepper
 

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper


Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
I’d heard that He’s now at Microsoft but I wasn’t sure in what capacity. I wonder if he’s somehow responsible for the progress made with Narrator. With Doug at the helm, good things are surely in store. I wish him all the best.

On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO



Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Don H
 

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Steve Nutt
 

No.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Don H
 

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


Jaws Scripts for Skype

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Ran across this in Top Tech Tidbits.

12. Skype 8 Electron.  Here are JAWS scripts and an NVDA add-on for Skype:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.


Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Mich Verrier
 

Hi I wouldn't think it would be since it is photos and vidiows and I am not
shure of any video or photo softwair except say goldwave but that is only
for audio I think maybe video to that is accessible with jaws. Hth. From
Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: February 13, 2019 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video
editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

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