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Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

What does being able to afford Zoomtext or Jaws have to do with accessibility drivers or not?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

God I hope this becomes a thing soon. I don’t care so much about the JAWS cursor, but the person who owns this computer hasn’t got a hope in hell of affording Zoomtext. I can afford JAWS, but that only solves half our problem. LOL

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February-19-19 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

Jaws still uses the so-called accessibility driver. In fact, in Jaws 2019 you can go to the Jaws Settings Centre, load default settings and type all or part of the word “accessibility” driver and you can then uncheck the accessibility driver and use the more modern method with is called “GDI Hooking”. This is currently being tested and Vispero is not making a big deal of it so far since some things may work better with it unchecked, but many things may not. Ultimately the goal is to have this unchecked by default and to restore the functionality of the Jaws cursor to what it once was or better.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

James,

 

Not absolutely sure, but I think the mirror drivers stopped around JAWS 15.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: James Homuth

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 20:52

Subject: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

James Homuth
 

God I hope this becomes a thing soon. I don’t care so much about the JAWS cursor, but the person who owns this computer hasn’t got a hope in hell of affording Zoomtext. I can afford JAWS, but that only solves half our problem. LOL

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February-19-19 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

Jaws still uses the so-called accessibility driver. In fact, in Jaws 2019 you can go to the Jaws Settings Centre, load default settings and type all or part of the word “accessibility” driver and you can then uncheck the accessibility driver and use the more modern method with is called “GDI Hooking”. This is currently being tested and Vispero is not making a big deal of it so far since some things may work better with it unchecked, but many things may not. Ultimately the goal is to have this unchecked by default and to restore the functionality of the Jaws cursor to what it once was or better.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

James,

 

Not absolutely sure, but I think the mirror drivers stopped around JAWS 15.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 20:52

Subject: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

James Homuth
 

Nope. We had either 18 or 2018 on this machine and they were still there. Uninstalling it now because it’s making life complicated.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: February-19-19 12:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

James,

 

Not absolutely sure, but I think the mirror drivers stopped around JAWS 15.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 20:52

Subject: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

Jaws still uses the so-called accessibility driver. In fact, in Jaws 2019 you can go to the Jaws Settings Centre, load default settings and type all or part of the word “accessibility” driver and you can then uncheck the accessibility driver and use the more modern method with is called “GDI Hooking”. This is currently being tested and Vispero is not making a big deal of it so far since some things may work better with it unchecked, but many things may not. Ultimately the goal is to have this unchecked by default and to restore the functionality of the Jaws cursor to what it once was or better.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

James,

 

Not absolutely sure, but I think the mirror drivers stopped around JAWS 15.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: James Homuth

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 20:52

Subject: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

 

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

I am on the Jaws private beta list and while a few Chrome related bugs have been reported in the current beta and are being worked on, I have never experienced nor heard of anybody having a problem accessing the address bar whether you do it with Control + L, Alt + D or by pressing F6. I used to get to the address bar from any web page by pressing F6 once, it looks like a Chrome update has slightly changed that since the first press of F6 takes you to the currently open tab, then a second press of F6 takes me to the address bar.

Maybe you can explain in more detail exactly what is happening for you, but if you report something nobody can reproduce it is difficult to pinpoint what is wrong.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi,  In my case, I have to regularly unload and reload JAWS to keep this edit field viable.  To no good end, I have advised Vispero about this annoyance since JAWS 18.  Mitch

“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.”  Lily  Tomlin

 

 

 

 

From: Randy Meyer
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Control-l is what gives you a place to type in a website or search.  This is an adjustment from using control-o to open a website with internet explorer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim

 


Re: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

Dave...
 

James,
 
Not absolutely sure, but I think the mirror drivers stopped around JAWS 15.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 20:52
Subject: Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Is there a version of JAWS that doesn't use mirror display drivers?

James Homuth
 

I had heard a long time ago that there was a version coming that dropped mirror display drivers. Does that version exist, and if so, which version is it? Asking as we’re running into the issue of mirror drivers messing with the Windows magnifier. As the primary user of this system is low vision but doesn’t have Zoomtext, and I occasionally provide tech help, we’re having to run Magnifier primarily with JAWS on the system for when I need to use it. That creates problems, because Magnifier requires Aero to run properly, and mirror drivers don’t support aero. Is there a version of JAWS that doesn’t use the mirror drivers? If so, that has just made my life about 5 times easier.


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

Dave Mitchell
 

Hi,  In my case, I have to regularly unload and reload JAWS to keep this edit field viable.  To no good end, I have advised Vispero about this annoyance since JAWS 18.  Mitch

“No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up.”  Lily  Tomlin

 

 

 

 

From: Randy Meyer
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Control-l is what gives you a place to type in a website or search.  This is an adjustment from using control-o to open a website with internet explorer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim

 


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

You can also use Alt + D to go to the address bar in Chrome or you can press F6 once or twice.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Ctrl-l actually works in Internet Explorer too, and I believe always has.

Ctrl-o will open a local file on just about any other browser, so it’s best to get used to ctrl-l, no matter what browser you are using currently.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: February 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Control-l is what gives you a place to type in a website or search.  This is an adjustment from using control-o to open a website with internet explorer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Joseph Norton
 

I remember term talk.

Are used term talk quite a bit when I had my apple to eat.

There were a lot of people who liked the probe words and pro term packages.

However for some reason I have trouble with pro term and you had to use pro words to be able to edit macros and such on pro term.

So term talk was a much better deal for me and it did work quite well for the most part.

All the best to Doug G off free.

Take care

On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:51 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

This is one reason I think Narrator will become really good.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 15:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he
still part of VFO


















Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

JM Casey
 

Ctrl-l actually works in Internet Explorer too, and I believe always has.

Ctrl-o will open a local file on just about any other browser, so it’s best to get used to ctrl-l, no matter what browser you are using currently.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: February 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Control-l is what gives you a place to type in a website or search.  This is an adjustment from using control-o to open a website with internet explorer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

Randy Meyer
 

Control-l is what gives you a place to type in a website or search.  This is an adjustment from using control-o to open a website with internet explorer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Control l for the address field

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: February 18, 2019 11:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


Re: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

John Doering
 

Jim,

Try this…

Open Crome.

Then control :l together.

This will put you in an edit field.

Type in either a web page i.e. amazon.com or terms for a search.

Hit enter.

It should go to the web site if that is what you put in or if you used search terms, it will show you a Google results page.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst 

 
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


trying to learn how to use Chrome, and having issues.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all,

I have the tutorial here, by David Moore. I have read it, and am still having issues. I can’t even get to a web site I want. So, I open Chrome. I hit the windows key up arrow to make sure that chrome is maximized. Then I try to type in the web site I want. And so I hit Control O, and before I can type in anything, I hear, OAKPT2. So I back space that out, and type in what I want. And I hear an ok button. So I hit the space bar, and nothing happens after that. I am running windows ten and jaws 2019. What the heck am I doing wrong? I want to use this browser as my default, but not if it is this hard to use. Jim


Re: Using Google Chrome

Van Lant, Robin
 

I hear that a lot on a couple sites, especially the web-based HR software my company uses.  I agree that it doesn’t seem to do anything.  Someone on one of these lists once said it might be the site designer trying to implement accessible design functions, but not fully doing it.  Maybe like creating an alt tag for an image, but not typing any meaningful text in it.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 7:02 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Google Chrome

 

I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018 or jaws 2019. I’m on a web site and it says to press jaws key plus alt plus r to get descriptive text. I do and nothing is read. It doesn’t matter what web site I do this on nothing is read. The site tells me to do those key strokes. Is there something else I need to do? Or is the HTML code not setup for a alt label to state something about a link? Thanks, Kevin



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Re: accessible project management/collaboration software

Van Lant, Robin
 

So many directions you can go with this question.  We use SharePoint here at work, which works fine with JAWS if you are using it to check in and out documents, but not so great if you are trying ot edit actual pages. 

 

I haven’t used the Google suite, but it sounds from other people like that could be an option. 

 

I’ve never heard good accessibility things for Miscrosoft Project.  We tend to use Excel here for the project plan and SharePoint for sharing documents. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:34 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: accessible project management/collaboration software

 

Hi,

 

So I’m working on a project with some other people , one of the sighted members of the group has suggested we look into some project management software or online collaboration tool where we can all log what we’re doing/working on so others from the group can see  exactly what we  are all doing and our progress on that work. So just wondering if anyone from this group has used anything like this and has any suggestions for either an online tool or piece  of  software that would do this and work well with Jaws?

 

Regards

 

Paul



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Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Steve Nutt
 

This is one reason I think Narrator will become really good.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 15:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he
still part of VFO











Re: accessible project management/collaboration software

paul lemm
 

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for the reply. I’ll check that one out, as better to have something with some accessibility  than none at all. I’ll also keep hunting around to see if I find anything  which works or is a little smoother for a jaws/screen reader user.

 

Thanks for the help and advice.

 

Paul

 

 

main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible project management/collaboration software

 

Paul,

 

I used MS Project manager several years ago. I was able to enter data for the various steps and sub steps in the project, but was not able to actually "see" the flow diagram nor the fishbone diagram. With care and lots of trial and error I was able to use it, but not very efficiently.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: paul lemm

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:33

Subject: accessible project management/collaboration software

 

Hi,

 

So I’m working on a project with some other people , one of the sighted members of the group has suggested we look into some project management software or online collaboration tool where we can all log what we’re doing/working on so others from the group can see  exactly what we  are all doing and our progress on that work. So just wondering if anyone from this group has used anything like this and has any suggestions for either an online tool or piece  of  software that would do this and work well with Jaws?

 

Regards

 

Paul


Re: The menu bar in Firefox does not seem to be always visible

Bill White
 

Hi, Richard. Perhaps Full Screen is checked in the view menu of Firefox. You can go to View, with ALT plus V, and arrow up to see if Full Screen is checked. If it is, this will hide the menu. You can also toggle this full screen setting with F11. But it won’t tell you which way it is toggled. So, it is better and easier to use ALT plus V, followed by Up Arrow to see if the full screen menu is checked. It is not one of those check boxes which are unchecked with the space bar. Instead, if full screen is checked, press ENTER on the menu option for Full Screen.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The menu bar in Firefox does not seem to be always visible

 

Hi!

 

Even though I have the View > Toolbars > Menu Bar “checked” in Firefox, it does not seem to be always visible.  When I press only the alt key, nothing happens.  However, if I press for example alt+f, then the menu bar *is* visible; and I can then navigate it.  How can I make the menu bar always visible?

 

I am using the latest builds of both JAWS 2019 and Firefox, and running under Windows 7.

 

Thanks,

Richard