You could try Visual Studio Code, which apparently supports Markdown.

 

I tend to edit Markdown files in Emacs though.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2019 at 13:21
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Markdown Editor That Works With JAWS

 

If a reply is not forthcoming here, be sure to ask on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group.

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I know that several regulars there use Markdown, and with various screen readers, so someone's got to have a suggestion.
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       ~ Lauren Bacall

Hi,

 

Recently I’ve been having trouble with finding the Skip Ads button in YouTube. Today, several minutes into an 18 minute ad and being unable to find the Skip Ads button, I cornered a sighted coworker who easily found what they described as a Skip Ads popup button that was over the Play button area. This never announced as I tabbed and arrowed through the YouTube screen.

 

Is there a way or ways to consistently find YouTube Skip Ads buttons?

 

Thanks in advance, Keith

Hi, Sieghard. How did you bring up the help for speech on demand? When I enter Speech On Demand into the help topics, all I get back in response is a topic which directs me to JAWS Keystrokes.

Also never forget that all of this is covered in detail in Help > Jaws Help Topics. In this case here is what is said about speech on demand:

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or doing a Say All. You also have the option to completely turn off speech.

Layered commands to toggle Speech On Demand or Mute Speech:

• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute Speech.
• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute Speech.

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default settings, do the following:

1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by default.
6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group.
7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box. Reading commands are spoken by default.
8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Mouse Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default.
9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and Words and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is cleared by default.
10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center.

Note: When set to Speech On Demand or Mute Speech, all sounds played by JAWS are also muted. This includes the sound heard when pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR to enter Layered Keys mode as well as the sound heard when completing an address in Outlook.

Designated Reading Commands

The tables below list the preset designated reading commands for Speech On Demand. These include commands available in all applications as well as commands specific to Word, Excel, and Outlook.

Hi, Sieghard. How did you bring up the help for speech on demand? When I enter Speech On Demand into the help topics, all I get back in response is a topic which directs me to JAWS Keystrokes.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 10:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws quick / hot key

 

Also never forget that all of this is covered in detail in Help > Jaws Help Topics. In this case here is what is said about speech on demand:

 

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or doing a Say All. You also have the option to completely turn off speech.

Layered commands to toggle Speech On Demand or Mute Speech:

• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute Speech.
• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute Speech.

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default settings, do the following:

1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by default.
6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group.
7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box. Reading commands are spoken by default.
8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Mouse Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default.
9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and Words and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is cleared by default.
10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center.

Note: When set to Speech On Demand or Mute Speech, all sounds played by JAWS are also muted. This includes the sound heard when pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR to enter Layered Keys mode as well as the sound heard when completing an address in Outlook.

Designated Reading Commands

The tables below list the preset designated reading commands for Speech On Demand. These include commands available in all applications as well as commands specific to Word, Excel, and Outlook.

Description	Command
Keyboard Help	INSERT+1
Say All	INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Read current character	NUM PAD 5
Read current word	INSERT+NUM PAD 5
Read next word (remains silent in Word documents and editable Outlook messages)	CTRL+RIGHT ARROW
Read previous word (remains silent in Word documents and editable Outlook messages)	CTRL+LEFT ARROW
Read current line	INSERT+UP ARROW
Read from the beginning of the current line to the active cursor	INSERT+HOME
Read from the active cursor to the end of the current line	INSERT+PAGE UP
Read current sentence	ALT+NUM PAD 5
Read current paragraph	CTRL+NUM PAD 5
Read current table cell	ALT+CTRL+NUM PAD 5
Read prompt for current control	INSERT+TAB
Read window title	INSERT+T
Read bottom line of window	INSERT+PAGE DOWN
Read top line of window	INSERT+END
Read selected text	INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Say system time	INSERT+F12
Increase voice rate and save	ALT+CTRL+WINDOWS Key+PAGE UP
Temporarily increase voice rate (previously saved rate is restored when switching applications)	ALT+CTRL+PAGE UP
Decrease voice rate and save	ALT+CTRL+WINDOWS Key+PAGE DOWN
Temporarily decrease voice rate (previously saved rate is restored when switching applications)	ALT+CTRL+PAGE DOWN
Repeat last Skype notification	INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+R
Restrict current cursor	INSERT+R
Read contents of dialog box	INSERT+B
Read word in context	INSERT+C
Say current access key	SHIFT+NUM PAD 5
Say color	INSERT+5

 

Description	Command
Say cell navigated to in formula	CTRL+NUM PAD 5
Say input message for current cell	CTRL+SHIFT+V
Read current row	INSERT+SHIFT+UP ARROW
Read from the beginning of the row to the current cell	INSERT+SHIFT+HOME
Read from the current cell to the end of the row	INSERT+SHIFT+PAGE UP
Read current column	CTRL+INSERT+UP ARROW
Read from top of column to the current cell	CTRL+INSERT+HOME
Read from current cell to the bottom of the column	CTRL+INSERT+PAGE UP
Say coordinates of active cell	INSERT+C
Say formula	CTRL+INSERT+F2
Report gridline status	ALT+SHIFT+G
Read row total	INSERT+DELETE
Read column total	INSERT+ENTER
Say column title	ALT+INSERT+SHIFT+C
Say row title	ALT+INSERT+SHIFT+R
Say coordinates for the range of visible cells	ALT+SHIFT+V
Read cell comment	ALT+SHIFT+APOSTROPHE
Describe cell border	ALT+SHIFT+B
Read cell hyperlink	ALT+SHIFT+H
Read monitor cells	ALT+SHIFT+1 through 0

 

Description	Command
Toggle Navigation Quick Keys	INSERT+Z
Read mistake and suggestion	INSERT+F7
Say line and column	INSERT+DELETE
Say column title	ALT+INSERT+SHIFT+C
Say row title	ALT+INSERT+SHIFT+R
Read current column	ALT+WINDOWS Key+PERIOD
Read current row	ALT+WINDOWS Key+COMMA
Say first cell in column	INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by T, and then ALT+1
Say first cell in row	INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by T, and then ALT+5
Say field	CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD 5
Announce comment	ALT+SHIFT+APOSTROPHE
Announce footnote	ALT+SHIFT+E
Announce revision	CTRL+INSERT+R
Describe border around the currently selected text	ALT+SHIFT+B
Say language in use	ALT+CTRL+A

 

Description	Command
Read mistake and suggestion	INSERT+F7
Read Outlook headers	ALT+1 through 0
Read current row	ALT+WINDOWS Key+NUM PAD 5
Read current column	ALT+WINDOWS Key+PERIOD
Say field	CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD 5
Toggle Navigation Quick Keys	INSERT+Z
Announce Outlook Info Bar	CTRL+INSERT+I
Say language in use	ALT+CTRL+A

 

Back

Next

 

Also never forget that all of this is covered in detail in Help > Jaws Help Topics. In this case here is what is said about speech on demand:

Speech On Demand

Speech On Demand is a feature that allows you to limit the amount of JAWS speech you hear as you navigate windows and documents or perform other actions using hot keys. By default, when using Speech On Demand, JAWS only announces actions that are associated with a limited set of hot keys. In addition, mouse echo and typing echo are still available, which allows JAWS to read text that you point to with the mouse pointer and speak characters and words as you type. You can quickly toggle between Speech On Demand and full speech using a convenient layered command, or even make Speech On Demand the default speech mode when JAWS starts.

For JAWS users who rely heavily on Braille or for users of Fusion that can see well enough to use the screen for tracking focus, too much speech can be overwhelming while navigating using the keyboard and mouse. However, users still want to be able to use speech to read once they have moved to a location on the screen, or just checking a Window Title, column heading in a table or spread sheet, or even reading the time from the System tray. In both these situations, Speech On Demand can be very helpful. You will find that switching applications with ALT+TAB or using ARROW keys to move through a document are silenced. Speech is only triggered when using a limited set of reading commands such as speaking the current character, word, line, paragraph, or doing a Say All. You also have the option to completely turn off speech.

Layered commands to toggle Speech On Demand or Mute Speech:

• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by S to toggle the speech mode between Full Speech and either Speech On Demand (the default) or Mute Speech.
• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+S while Full Speech is disabled to toggle between Speech On Demand and Mute Speech.

By default, JAWS always returns to Full Speech when restarted after these keystrokes have been used. To make permanent changes to the default settings, do the following:

1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
2. If you want changes to only apply to a particular application, select it from the Application list. Otherwise, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings file.
3. In the tree view, expand the Speech Options group.
4. Press the SPACEBAR on Speech Mode to change the default choice between Less Speech or Full Speech. Full Speech is selected by default.
5. Press the SPACEBAR on Less Speech Options to change the default choice between Mute Speech or Speech On Demand. Speech On Demand is selected by default.
6. Expand the Speech On Demand Options group.
7. If you do not want any reading hot keys to speak with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to clear the Allow Reading Commands check box. Reading commands are spoken by default.
8. If JAWS Mouse Echo is enabled and you want to hear text as you move the mouse with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Mouse Echo checkbox. This checkbox is cleared by default.
9. If JAWS Typing Echo is set to Characters, Words, or Characters and Words and you want to hear what you are typing with Speech On Demand active, use the SPACEBAR to select the Allow Typing Echo check box. This checkbox is cleared by default.
10. Choose OK to save your changes and close Settings Center.

Note: When set to Speech On Demand or Mute Speech, all sounds played by JAWS are also muted. This includes the sound heard when pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR to enter Layered Keys mode as well as the sound heard when completing an address in Outlook.

Designated Reading Commands

The tables below list the preset designated reading commands for Speech On Demand. These include commands available in all applications as well as commands specific to Word, Excel, and Outlook.

Pardon my error, that last technique is the "when I only want it during this session" method with JAWS.   This is how to set them in the spreadsheet itself such that JAWS will recognize their existence and announce them whenever you open a specific spreadsheet:

Assigning a Title Row (Column Titles) and/or Title Column (Row Titles) in Excel

You can assign column and row titles in Excel. These are nice because they always work with Excel and are saved to the workbook. There's no risk of losing a setting in your screen reader.

To add column and row title names:

1. Focus on the first cell in the row or column or at the first cell where the title row and title column intersect
2. Open the Name dialog:

                                                               i.      Open the Formula ribbon (ALT-M)

                                                             ii.      Activate the “Define Name” command (M)

                                                           iii.      Within the drop-down list, activate “Define Name”

                                                           iv.      The “New Name” dialog opens

Focus is placed in the name field. Within the name field, you can name the focused cell or selected range of cells. In this case, we’re naming the column or row title:

1. Name the cell using the following rules

                           i.  Start the range name with the label that tells Excel you’re creating a title range

1. Title – This tells Excel the column and row that intersect at the active cell are a title row and column
2. ColumnTitle – This tells Excel the focused column contains the titles for the rows within the range
3. RowTitle – this tells Excel the focused row contains titles for the columns in the range

                            ii.      Add a name for the range

1. Title_WidgetSales
2. ColumnTitle_WidgetSales
3. RowTitle_WidgetSales

                              iii.      Optional - Add the last cell in the range preceded by two periods

1. Use this when you have multiple regions in a worksheet
2. Title_WidgetSales..J25
3. ColumTitle_WidgetSales..h32
4. RowTitle_WidgetSales..r12
5. Remember the cell address referenced is the last cell in the range for which you are creating titles

The next field in the dialog sets the scope for the name. this is a combo box. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to choose from between:

• Workbook - the title Is unique and can’t be used elsewhere in a workbook
• A Specific Worksheet - the name can be used elsewhere in a workbook

You can add a comment for the named cell or region, this is strictly for your personal reference and doesn’t affect the echo of the column or row title name

The last field references the cell name or range of selected cells you’re naming. You can leave this field alone.

Activate the OK button to save the name and close the dialog.

Save the workbook and the titles are permanently saved and will work on any computer.

If you have titles set to echo in JAWS, the titles will echo and you won’t lose the settings.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall

Pardon my error, that last technique is the "when I only want it during this session" method with JAWS.   This is how to set them in the spreadsheet itself such that JAWS will recognize their existence and announce them whenever you open a specific spreadsheet:

Assigning a Title Row (Column Titles) and/or Title Column (Row Titles) in Excel

You can assign column and row titles in Excel. These are nice because they always work with Excel and are saved to the workbook. There's no risk of losing a setting in your screen reader.

To add column and row title names:

1. Focus on the first cell in the row or column or at the first cell where the title row and title column intersect
2. Open the Name dialog:

                                                               i.      Open the Formula ribbon (ALT-M)

                                                             ii.      Activate the “Define Name” command (M)

                                                           iii.      Within the drop-down list, activate “Define Name”

                                                           iv.      The “New Name” dialog opens

Focus is placed in the name field. Within the name field, you can name the focused cell or selected range of cells. In this case, we’re naming the column or row title:

1. Name the cell using the following rules

                           i.  Start the range name with the label that tells Excel you’re creating a title range

1. Title – This tells Excel the column and row that intersect at the active cell are a title row and column
2. ColumnTitle – This tells Excel the focused column contains the titles for the rows within the range
3. RowTitle – this tells Excel the focused row contains titles for the columns in the range

                            ii.      Add a name for the range

1. Title_WidgetSales
2. ColumnTitle_WidgetSales
3. RowTitle_WidgetSales

                              iii.      Optional - Add the last cell in the range preceded by two periods

1. Use this when you have multiple regions in a worksheet
2. Title_WidgetSales..J25
3. ColumTitle_WidgetSales..h32
4. RowTitle_WidgetSales..r12
5. Remember the cell address referenced is the last cell in the range for which you are creating titles

The next field in the dialog sets the scope for the name. this is a combo box. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to choose from between:

• Workbook - the title Is unique and can’t be used elsewhere in a workbook
• A Specific Worksheet - the name can be used elsewhere in a workbook

You can add a comment for the named cell or region, this is strictly for your personal reference and doesn’t affect the echo of the column or row title name

The last field references the cell name or range of selected cells you’re naming. You can leave this field alone.

Activate the OK button to save the name and close the dialog.

Save the workbook and the titles are permanently saved and will work on any computer.

If you have titles set to echo in JAWS, the titles will echo and you won’t lose the settings.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall

Thanks, Bill.  I’ll have to explore this.  Not sure how I’d use that yet, but it’s always good to know what JAWS is capable of doing.

Hi, Robin. When JAWS is set to mute speech, speech is always muted. When JAWS is set to use Speech on demand, speech is usually muted, but JAWS will still speek when using commands such as,

Say Character

Say Prior Word

Say Next Word

Say Word

Spell Word

Say Prior Line

Say Current Line

Spell Current Line

Say All

etc. So, you have speech muted, but when using navigational commands except for arrow keys, JAWS will speak normally.

Sieghard, Are you able to articulate to me what Speech on Demand really does?  Even without following the steps you and Bill each outlined,  I was finding that the JAWS spacebar then S would mute my speech.  JAWS says Speech on Demand, but when this is active, I havent’ noticed JAWS speaking so it’s effectively been a mute function for me.  I’m not clear how someone would use Speech on Demand and am guessing that you have to customize how JAWS will or won’t speak in this mode, but can’t imagine how it’s used.

Hi Bill,

Just for your information, you can accomplish what  you described also in the following way:

1. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S – this will turn on speech on demand

2. Now press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S – Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech mute”

3. Press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S again – Jaws will now say full speech and from now on when you press this layered shortcut it will toggle between mute and full speech.

If you want to go back to speech on demand simply repeat the above steps, first toggle speech to mute, then press the layered keystroke but with Shift + S and Jaws will say “Speech off set to speech on demand”, now the toggle is back between full speech and speech on demand.

Regards,

Sieghard

Hi, Rick. In case all you want to do is to mute speech instead of unloading JAWS entirely, try the following,

1. Open Settings Center with INSERT plus six on numbers row.

2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to load Default JAWS configuration.

3. In the search field, type

speech.

4. Arrow down to Less Speech Options.

5. Press SPACE BAR to toggle speech from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER to save settings.

7. Now, INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S will mute speech instead of setting it to Speech On Demand.

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  JAWS is what was meant.  Sorry I did not proof better.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

The John’s cursor?

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

 I am not sure of the solution, but this is a typical John’s Kurtzer response. As windows has advanced and technology increased the John’s cursor has become less useful. I understand that Freedom Scientific is working on that and hopes to have major changes soon. 

 

Get Outlook for iOS

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of soner <soner.boun@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws Cursor İssue

 

Dear listers, on Windows 10, I encounter a strange problem in Jaws
cursor mode with all web browsers. that while it reads properly
through arrow keys, it just says: "space", if I would like to move
word by word or character by character to move and click an element or
a word to read. So I am literally unable to grabb anything clickable
or any word to locate in Jaws cursor mode.
I have tested through various Jaws versions from April 2019 down to
2018, but it gives the same result.
I use a Toshiba Satellite Radius 12 P20W-C laptop with all the drivers
and firmwares up to date.

Any tip or help greatly appreciated.