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Donna <mermaid7@...>
There is no way to send your post via email to your friends on Facebook. How to receive notifications is a persons choice. I have some group post come to my email. Other groups that I don’t frequent regularly, I have those groups to be received in notifications within Facebook.
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Re: images embeddedd in email messages?
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 04:32 PM, Shannon wrote:
Do you really think that a newer version of the email client would be able to get to these embedded graphics?To be honest, I cannot say, but that is far from the only reason to upgrade. Screen reader developers are not attempting to maintain perpetual backward compatibility with every version of MS Office that ever existed. Resources have to be directed to those versions that have the largest embedded base among Windows users, and 2010 is well past its prime and is a small part of the Office market. I have purchased all of my MS-Office and Windows 10 Pro licenses via eBay. There are other marketplaces as well, but eBay has done an excellent job in keeping out those who are intent on ripping people off. The have had issues two times, once I was promptly provided with a second license key which worked perfectly and the other I was promptly issued a refund. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: images embeddedd in email messages?
If Jaws can see the image, have you tried to run Picture Smart on it?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?
Ok, I didn’t realize that newer versions of Office were so inexpensive these days. I thought that you had to have a monthly subscription to these newer versions and that seamed silly when I don’t need a lot of the bells and wistles. Some of the new stuff is just more, and not all that.
Where would I go to look for the newer versions. Do you really think that a newer version of the email client would be able to get to these embedded graphics? I did find a setting in Jaws 2019 that does at least acknowledge that there is a graphic and it says it is in the local temp bla bla bla but I can’t seam to grab it, or coppy or save it at all. The attachments save in office 2010 does not scoup this sort of thing up in the save options. I am using Jaws 2019 because I had to. I honestly am not as happy with it as I was with Window Eyes. IMO WE was a better product but… since it is gone I had to do something. I am using windows 10 not because it is better but like you said it is what is being supported now. I think it is full of fluffy stuff but… mostly it works fine. Sometimes they just seam to change stuff for the sake of changing something, not to make it actually better but to make it different.
Thanks Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, but there comes a time when software which is way past any update and support period simply will cause too many headaches, it will become insecure and you will ask questions about some issue which others have a hard time answering because you are using software which most others left behind 5 or 6 years ago. I have multiple computers at work and my laptop at home as well as my iPhone and I use Outlook.com for my personal email. I stopped using Office 2010 as soon as Office 2013 offered native support for Exchange Active Sync accounts without me having to install the old Hotmail connector program first. If it turns out that the Save attachments feature does not exist in Office 2010 and that Shannon could access all or even most embedded images and files using it if she used Office 365 and, as she said, she is missing important information by not being able to access them then I would say the statement “Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?” is not such a good one because apparently it does not do an important part of her job. Keep in mind that I am just hypothesizing because I haven’t seen her emails with these embedded images, for all I know they are also not accessible in Outlook through Office 365. But in general my statement stands, at some point you have to move on and get away from older software. Shannon says she is using Jaws 2019 and I’m not sure if she is on Windows 10 or still on Windows 7, but the statement she made could also be applied to Windows and Jaws, I mean, if she is using Office 2010, why not use Windows 10 with Jaws 13 or even earlier, imaging all the money you could have saved not upgrading Jaws. Of course the same applies, eventually you have to get a new computer which nowadays means you get a Windows 10 computer and especially with version 1903 and what is coming this fall and next spring you really need Jaws 2019.
Best regards, Sieghard
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
The Iowa Gal
Right on, Shannon. I’m also using Office 2010. I think we all should remember that each one of us uses their tech in different ways under different circumstances and for different purposes. HTH Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
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Because I own it. Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job? I’ll try to see if there is a save atachments that will work on these embedded images. Thanks for the idea. Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Is there a specific reason why you still use Outlook 2010? Usually I still hear that the email includes attachments if it has embedded images, maybe it’s not always the case, but when it does tell me I can save them with File > Save attachments. Keep in mind that I use the most current version of Outlook via Office 365 and it’s been so many years since I have used Office 2010 that I have no idea if Save Attachments which saves all attachments whether attached or embedded exists in 2010.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shannon
Hello,
It has come to my attention that I am missing important information in emails because they are actually including this information in an image format imbedded into the email body. With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2010 I am getting no indication that there are any images at all. Is there at the least a setting that I can/need to change to be notified that there is more in these messages beyond the body text and the typical signature junk? Once I find these images, is there a way to get to them and save them so I can possibly use OCR on them?
Thanks Shannon
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Questions from someone who will soon be a Focus 40 Blue owner.
Kevin Minor
Hi.
I’m not sure when, but in a couple of weeks to a month or so I will be getting a brand new Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation, and I have questions concerning it. Since this is a JAWS list, I’ll keep most of them to using it with JAWS. I have used a Focus 40 before, but it was one that used USB to hook up to the PC, and that was over ten years ago, and this technology has sure changed. So, here are my questions.
The first one is a general Windows question, but it is JAWS related, because The first thing I need to do is to get the Focus and the computer to communicate with each other, and then I’ll add JAWS to the mix. The first is how should you set up connections for the Focus to work. I want it to work with both USB as well as blue tooth, so is there a particular order to do these? I have read the User’s manual, and I’m not sure what to do. I’m pretty good at plug and play, but the documentation mentions to refer to the device manager in Windows and see what COM port the Focus is using. Does that concern USB or blue tooth? Also, I know that you can connect with blue tooth before setting up USB, but is it better to do it the other way? Finally, how do I find out if my laptop has blue tooth on it in the first place? I think I’ve seen it in a list or so, but I can’t find where to see if it is available or not. If it is, but it somehow got turned off, how do I get it working again? This is Windows 10 1803, and I’m not real familiar with network settings other than connecting to internet, so guidance would be appreciated.
Now for my JAWS questions. I’m using the most current update of JAWS 2019, so I know it supports the Focus. I think I understand how to get JAWS to connect with both USB as well as blue tooth, but is there an order to do it so both will work? Also, just how do use this thing with JAWS and Windows. I know that the Blue will let you control a PC using its keyboard, and I pretty well can figure out things like hitting JAWS and another key to do something, but I’m not sure about working in Windows itself. My main questions have to deal with working with Windows Explorer and files. First, how do you cut, copy and paste files? Next, I have Windows displaying in a list view with certain details of files that I’d like to check. This brings up two questions concerning this. First, how do you do a right arrow to move to something in the details you want to read. For example, I have a lot of music that I’m organizing, and I organize songs by year. In the details, I have the year of the file, and next is how long it is. How can I check this information. Also, with speech, when I check out these fields, JAWS will tell me the position in the list they are, for example, the file is 100 out of 379. Does the Focus display this as well, and is there a command I need to issue to hear it?
My final Windows Explorer question concerns moving through a list. When I tried to use a braille display way back when, I would have liked it to navigate through the entire whatever, and not just what was on the screen. How do you simulate pressing the arrow keys on a regular keyboard so that focus is moved to the next or previous item? This doesn’t just apply to Windows Explorer, but other programs such as Outlook, Word, and Excel. I know the Focus keyboard can do this, but I don’t know how, and I’ve read the Braille In help, and most of it makes sense, but some of it doesn’t. Can anybody tell me what to do, or give me a comprehensive tutorial concerning this?
That’s pretty much all I can think of concerning the Focus Blue and JAWS. I do have a question about something that you can get to work with Windows itself, as well as some other questions regarding the Focus 40 Blue itself. I don’t know where else to ask right now, but since the same company makes both, I figure here’s a good place to ask. If this would be considered as off topic, or clutter on the list, either let me know of a better group to join, or send your answers directly to me. Let me put my email address here before I ask my questions. My email address is
Now for my first question, and it has to do with translating a text file into contracted braille. Is there a good, inexpensive translator that works with Windows to do this? I have a .txt file that I want to work with on the Focus scratchpad, and if I just had it as a text file, when I opened it, it would be in computer braille. I’d like it translated to grade 2 braille so I can transfer it to the scratchpad to work with it. Any suggestions out there are appreciated on this one. The translator doesn’t have to be really fancy, doing things such as math or other languages, or even UEB. I just want good old grade 2 braille. Come to think of it, a grade 3 translator would be fun to have, and I would like to learn that form of braille just to know it. That way I could have stuff that hardly anyone else would understand, so any grade 3 tutorials or translators would be fun.
My next general question concerning the Focus concerns transferring files to it. I know you can export from the scratchpad to a file in Windows, but can you go the other way? Let’s say I get my nice file translated to grade 2 on Windows, and I want to work with it on the Focus. Can I do it, and if so, how do I do it?
I do have a final question, and that’s simply, where can I learn more about refreshable braille displays, and using them in general, and specifically the Focus 40 Blue 5th Gen. I want to learn how to use it completely. Another thing I want to do is to pair it with my iPhone X so I can control my iPhone with it. Where do I learn to do this?
That’s it from me. I’m so glad I happened to think of this group for most of my questions, and I figure people will steer me to Focus email lists, web sites, and other good resources. I’m one of those who wants to learn as much as I can before I get new technology, so I can be that farther ahead. I know, however, that you can do only so much without actually having something to work with, and I figure the Focus is such a device. I do understand panning buttons, and I have seen cursor routing buttons, but I’m not as familiar with these. Other things like select buttons, the menu button and navigator buttons really don’t make sense to me, and oh yeah, there are those SHIFT buttons that are used with the keyboard to do some JAWS stuff. I don’t understand a lot of this stuff, but I will when I get my Focus. I just wish I could find someone who could help me learn, but I don’t have that, so I’ll have to go it alone. That’s part of the fun, though. I know a lot about the Echo and Alexa, for instance, because I did find a great tutorial for it, and I just tinkered around myself to see what would happen, and now if someone has some questions about Lady A, I can tell what I know in simple terms. I want to do that with the Focus, so others can ask questions on the proper lists, and I can help.
Thank you all in advance for the help that I get. It’s much appreciated.
Have a blessed day, and don’t work too hard.
Kevin Minor and Jilly, my Seeing Eye dog, Lexington, KY
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 06:35 PM, JM Casey wrote:
If Windows went the way of only allowing apps to be installed from the app store, I am pretty sure many of us would stop using Windows.Not to mention they'd be killing the goose that has assisted in incubating the golden eggs. I cannot foresee a time when desktop apps (formerly called installed programs) supplied by third-party makers will not be a huge part of the Windows 10 ecosystem. Mind you, some of those makers are transitioning toward UWP apps distributed through the store, but those are mostly in addition to, not in replacement of, the installed type. I have often said of Apple that they make great products, if overpriced, but I couldn't ever "go there" permanently because I refused to become one with the Apple borg. There is but one way, the Apple way, and the ecosystems for every one of the operating systems they make are far more tightly controlled than I'm willing to accept. Different strokes for different folks. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
JM Casey
Hi Astrid.
If Windows went the way of only allowing apps to be installed from the app store, I am pretty sure many of us would stop using Windows. I think the reason a lot of us like Windows is that it’s not so proprietary, notso completely controlled by Microsoft that your experience begins and ends with them.
That said, there is a special version of Windows designed for educational purposes that I think only allows programmes from the store to be installed. And even my own Windows tried to point me more in that direction before I changed things. Now I can just install anything I like, from anywhere; that’s the way I want my computer to behave. *grins*
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 4:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
Thanks for explaining. I asked about getting apps becaus eon Mac, if something isn’t in the app store, it’s a pain to install. I know with Windows 8 it was very easy to install programs you got off the Internet, but I wasn’t sure this still works in Windows 10.
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Re: Facebook posting
JM Casey
HI.
I don’t believe the op was asking about the facebook app; in any case, this is a JAWS list and I think posts about the app are probably considered too off-topic. I myself don’t use the app; it seems bloated and I don’t really want that stuff on my phone.
As to sending out e-mail notifications, your friends are in control of that, not you. Basically they can set whether they want to receive notifications by e-mail or not. Not much you can do on your end, and that’s probably as it should be, or else everybody would be getting loads of crap in their inboxes that they don’t really want.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: June 21, 2019 5:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Facebook posting
Using the FB app..go to settings, type notifications, you will be presented with several ways one can receive notifications. Tap on each notification preference to change your current settings.
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Re: Facebook posting
Gudrun Brunot
Hi Donna: does that refer to posting items also? I am actually trying to find out how I can make certain posts go out to people on my FB list as email notifications.
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Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Donna Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 2:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Facebook posting Using the FB app..go to settings, type notifications, you will be presented with several ways one can receive notifications. Tap on each notification preference to change your current settings. Donna On Jun 21, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Gudrun Brunot <brunotgudrun@gmail.com <mailto:brunotgudrun@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello all: I frequently get email messages with Facebook as the sender and a subject like: “[friend so-and-so] shared a link” or a photo, or updated his/her status. So how is that kind of message created—that is, what procedure will trigger that message to be sent as emails to your Facebook friends? There are times when I’d like to do that. I know you can post something by finding “What’s on your mind, [name]?” Then, find “Share” and make sure it’s the “share” button, not just the text somewhere. That, however, doesn’t seem to generate any message via email to your Facebook friends. They will see what you posted only if they decide to go to Facebook and cruise around. I’m not even sure how they find your post. Yes, even if there isn’t a course on Facebook, it would be great to have some pointers on how to know how your stuff is treated if you place some thing on Facebook. I can use Facebook on my iPhone or my PC, but the conundrum is present whichever method I use. All best, Gudrun Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting http://www.gudrunbrunot.com <http://www.gudrunbrunot.com/>; New Email Address: brunotgudrun@gmail.com <mailto:brunotgudrun@gmail.com>
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Re: jaws 2019?
Jaffar Sidek
Hi. Type cmd in your windows search box. Press the context menu
key, arrow down to "Run as Administrator" and press enter. You
can now execute any command as admin. Cheers! On 6/21/2019 10:19 PM, Kevin Meyers
wrote:
-- Pictures paint a thousand words; Melodies paint a thousand dreams; Music paints a thousand worlds; Movies light up fantasy screens.
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Re: Excel rows and columns
Gudrun Brunot
Hi gang: As often is the case for me since I filter my list messages, I may be late in the game to offer my suggestion, but here it is based on a spreadsheet I made up for bank info where I wanted to be able to update the spreadsheet as I was getting the info over the phone.
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I had 15 columns, a-o. I figure that, to start with, it will take me a long time to fill up 100 rows, so that is what I decided I needed. Place cursor on first column title. Alt to upper ribbon. Right arrow to Formulas. tab to Define name split btn. Enter. Enter again, type exactly minus the brackets: [TitleRegion1..o100 which means I estimate that O will be the last column needed, and row 100 the last row needed for this spreadsheet. So, if you add another column after the 15th column plus another 50 rows, just change what you type: [TitleRegion1..p150 which means I estimate that P will be the last column needed, and row 150 the last row needed for this spreadsheet. Now, Jaws will read the column titles correctly as you tab from row to row. Hope this helps. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns First I have to get it to work in the first place. For some reason I can’t get automatic readings of row and column headings to work using this method at all. I already have a template of this workbook set up and I usually just open it each time a new month starts and then use F12 to save it but giving it the name of the month. For example, my template is Sales Summary and I then save it, for example, as Sales Summary June 2019. I wouldn’t mind setting up the row and column title reading on each sheet separately if I could just get it to work. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 7:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns Hi Sieghard, I’m not able to set this up by defining a name on a worksheet and then copying that sheet multiple times. Even if I set the scope to the worksheet rather than the workbook, Jaws doesn’t read column or row headings on the next sheets. What you want can be done easily manually by first creating copies of your first sheet 31 times, one sheet for each day of the month. Then, place your cursor in the cell of the first sheet where you want to define the name, press the applications key, up arrow to “Define name…” and press enter. Type “Title” if you wish both column and row headings to be read by Jaws and press enter. Now, move to sheet two and do the same, except this time type “Title2” as the name. Continue doing this on subsequent sheets, each time increasing the number after “Title”. Note that there is no space between “Title” and the number. Not sure if this helps or if you wanted a more automatic method, but I can’t seem to do it any other way. I even tried grouping the sheets and then defining a name, but this doesn’t work. Cheers, Russell From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 12:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns Hi Brian, I attached a little sample spreadsheet I made. I thought I followed your steps to set it up so Jaws will read the column and row titles, but I can’t get it to work, what am I doing wrong? Sieghard From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns Pardon my error, that last technique is the "when I only want it during this session" method with JAWS. This is how to set them in the spreadsheet itself such that JAWS will recognize their existence and announce them whenever you open a specific spreadsheet: Assigning a Title Row (Column Titles) and/or Title Column (Row Titles) in Excel You can assign column and row titles in Excel. These are nice because they always work with Excel and are saved to the workbook. There's no risk of losing a setting in your screen reader. To add column and row title names: a. Focus on the first cell in the row or column or at the first cell where the title row and title column intersect b. Open the Name dialog: i. Open the Formula ribbon (ALT-M) ii. Activate the “Define Name” command (M) iii. Within the drop-down list, activate “Define Name” iv. The “New Name” dialog opens Focus is placed in the name field. Within the name field, you can name the focused cell or selected range of cells. In this case, we’re naming the column or row title: a. Name the cell using the following rules i. Start the range name with the label that tells Excel you’re creating a title range 1. Title – This tells Excel the column and row that intersect at the active cell are a title row and column 2. ColumnTitle – This tells Excel the focused column contains the titles for the rows within the range 3. RowTitle – this tells Excel the focused row contains titles for the columns in the range ii. Add a name for the range 1. Title_WidgetSales 2. ColumnTitle_WidgetSales 3. RowTitle_WidgetSales iii. Optional - Add the last cell in the range preceded by two periods 1. Use this when you have multiple regions in a worksheet 2. Title_WidgetSales..J25 3. ColumTitle_WidgetSales..h32 4. RowTitle_WidgetSales..r12 5. Remember the cell address referenced is the last cell in the range for which you are creating titles The next field in the dialog sets the scope for the name. this is a combo box. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to choose from between: * Workbook - the title Is unique and can’t be used elsewhere in a workbook * A Specific Worksheet - the name can be used elsewhere in a workbook You can add a comment for the named cell or region, this is strictly for your personal reference and doesn’t affect the echo of the column or row title name The last field references the cell name or range of selected cells you’re naming. You can leave this field alone. Activate the OK button to save the name and close the dialog. Save the workbook and the titles are permanently saved and will work on any computer. If you have titles set to echo in JAWS, the titles will echo and you won’t lose the settings. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: Jaws and Express Scribe
Gudrun Brunot
David: I use Express Scribe also, though I'm a translator rather than a
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medical transcriptionist. I occasionally get videos to translate. So, you open the file in Express scribe, and I believe you can either work directly in that program or use ES for playback only and work in your favorite word processor. Here is the keyboard reference guide--not too long. Keyboard reference F1 Display Help F2 Play Slow Speed F3 Play Fast Speed F4 Stop F7 Rewind F8 Fast Forward F9 Play F10 Play Real Speed F11 Play Slow Speed Ctrl+Num7 Go to start Ctrl+Num1 Go to End Ctrl+Del Delete File Ctrl+A Copy All (Notes Field) Ctrl+B Set Bookmark Ctrl+C Copy (Notes Field) Ctrl+D Dispatch File Ctrl+H Attach a file Ctrl+L Load File Ctrl+Shift+L Load and Delete File Ctrl+M Show Express Scribe Mini Control Ctrl+N Done Ctrl+O Recover File Ctrl+T Insert Audio Time Ctrl+V Paste (Notes Field) Ctrl+W Open Word Processor Ctrl+X Cut from Notes Field Alt+F4 Exit Express Scribe NumPad 2 Select next recording NumPad 8 Select previous recording Default System-Wide Hot Keys (can be changed using Settings / Control) F2 Play Slow Speed F3 Play Fast Speed F4 Stop F5 Open Express Scribe F6 Minimize Express Scribe F7 Rewind F8 Fast Forward F9 Play F10 Play Real Speed F11 Play Slow Speed F12 Play Slow Pausing See also: Contents Hot Key Control Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David F. Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 5:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe Hello, I'm new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list does transcription. It can be medical, legal, or other. If so, what transcription software do you use? Do you use Express Scribe or another software package? Thank you <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&;utm_source=link&utm_campai gn=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&;utm_source=link&utm_campai gn=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
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Re: : Transitioning back from Mac to PC: Why not both environments?
John Covici
This is what I do, the Mac works very well with the iphone, and Safari
does work pretty well, as well as the Windows browsers, although there are some sites which workon windows better and some sites which work on Mac better. Its good to have choices, so if you have a Mac, I would keep it and just add a Windows machine if you have things you need to do there. On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:04:56 -0400, Peter Donahue wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
John Covici
Outlook is not built-in, you have to buy office 365 and outlook will
install automatically on your computer and it will keep updated, which can have up and down sides. On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:22:58 -0400, Kendra Schaber wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Facebook posting
Donna <mermaid7@...>
Using the FB app..go to settings, type notifications, you will be presented with several ways one can receive notifications. Tap on each notification preference to change your current settings. Donna
On Jun 21, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Gudrun Brunot <brunotgudrun@...> wrote:
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: Transitioning back from Mac to PC: Why not both environments?
Peter Donahue
Good afternoon everyone,
We currently have a Windows desktop and my wife's work laptop along with another Windows laptop we use for specific purposes. In addition we have the iPhone and an iPad Air2. We expect to add another iPad which will be the iPad Pro in the next month.
I'm seriously considering getting a Mac for my next desktop. As long as they're still running we'll keep our current Windows machines along with the Apple machines allowing us to take advantage of the strengths of both environments. Why not hold onto the Mac and raise the needed funds to buy a new Windows desktop allowing you to use both types of desktop machines? We're doing that here.
Peter Donahue
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
Astrid van Woerkom
Thanks for explaining. I asked about getting apps becaus eon Mac, if something isn’t in the app store, it’s a pain to install. I know with Windows 8 it was very easy to install programs you got off the Internet, but I wasn’t sure this still works in Windows 10.
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Re: images embeddedd in email messages?
Shannon
Ok, I didn’t realize that newer versions of Office were so inexpensive these days. I thought that you had to have a monthly subscription to these newer versions and that seamed silly when I don’t need a lot of the bells and wistles. Some of the new stuff is just more, and not all that.
Where would I go to look for the newer versions. Do you really think that a newer version of the email client would be able to get to these embedded graphics? I did find a setting in Jaws 2019 that does at least acknowledge that there is a graphic and it says it is in the local temp bla bla bla but I can’t seam to grab it, or coppy or save it at all. The attachments save in office 2010 does not scoup this sort of thing up in the save options. I am using Jaws 2019 because I had to. I honestly am not as happy with it as I was with Window Eyes. IMO WE was a better product but… since it is gone I had to do something. I am using windows 10 not because it is better but like you said it is what is being supported now. I think it is full of fluffy stuff but… mostly it works fine. Sometimes they just seam to change stuff for the sake of changing something, not to make it actually better but to make it different.
Thanks Shannon
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?
Yes, but there comes a time when software which is way past any update and support period simply will cause too many headaches, it will become insecure and you will ask questions about some issue which others have a hard time answering because you are using software which most others left behind 5 or 6 years ago. I have multiple computers at work and my laptop at home as well as my iPhone and I use Outlook.com for my personal email. I stopped using Office 2010 as soon as Office 2013 offered native support for Exchange Active Sync accounts without me having to install the old Hotmail connector program first. If it turns out that the Save attachments feature does not exist in Office 2010 and that Shannon could access all or even most embedded images and files using it if she used Office 365 and, as she said, she is missing important information by not being able to access them then I would say the statement “Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?” is not such a good one because apparently it does not do an important part of her job. Keep in mind that I am just hypothesizing because I haven’t seen her emails with these embedded images, for all I know they are also not accessible in Outlook through Office 365. But in general my statement stands, at some point you have to move on and get away from older software. Shannon says she is using Jaws 2019 and I’m not sure if she is on Windows 10 or still on Windows 7, but the statement she made could also be applied to Windows and Jaws, I mean, if she is using Office 2010, why not use Windows 10 with Jaws 13 or even earlier, imaging all the money you could have saved not upgrading Jaws. Of course the same applies, eventually you have to get a new computer which nowadays means you get a Windows 10 computer and especially with version 1903 and what is coming this fall and next spring you really need Jaws 2019.
Best regards, Sieghard
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Right on, Shannon. I’m also using Office 2010. I think we all should remember that each one of us uses their tech in different ways under different circumstances and for different purposes. HTH Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Because I own it. Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job? I’ll try to see if there is a save atachments that will work on these embedded images. Thanks for the idea. Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Is there a specific reason why you still use Outlook 2010? Usually I still hear that the email includes attachments if it has embedded images, maybe it’s not always the case, but when it does tell me I can save them with File > Save attachments. Keep in mind that I use the most current version of Outlook via Office 365 and it’s been so many years since I have used Office 2010 that I have no idea if Save Attachments which saves all attachments whether attached or embedded exists in 2010.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shannon
Hello,
It has come to my attention that I am missing important information in emails because they are actually including this information in an image format imbedded into the email body. With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2010 I am getting no indication that there are any images at all. Is there at the least a setting that I can/need to change to be notified that there is more in these messages beyond the body text and the typical signature junk? Once I find these images, is there a way to get to them and save them so I can possibly use OCR on them?
Thanks Shannon
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
Astrid van Woerkom
Thanks so much for answering my questions so eloquently.
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:48 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions Outlook is part of Office and you have to pay for it.
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Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
JM Casey
Hello Astrid.
The Windows app store seems quite accessible, but really, I do not use it for much. I can say though that you can successfully find and install apps from this place if you want to. Where do we get our apps? That depends on what they are. I generally try to go to the source on the internet for whatever programme I am interested in.
I use Microsoft office, so outlook is my mail client of choice. You can get a recycled office license really cheaply nowadays.
As for browsers, Chrome and Firefox combination should serve you well. You will probably need to use both to have the best/smoothest experience.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 12:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
Hi all, I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.
As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?
Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.
What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.
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