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Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Hi, I used to make audio games. That's where a lot of my .net experience came from. In c++ I was involved in a block chain project at work. And I was shocked how accessible the IDE is now. Even things like the GitHub plugin.
On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Kevin Meyers < kevinmeyers@...> wrote: What types of applications do you code in? Hi, I used to do a lot of .NET development but now it's mostly C++. On 6/17/2019 12:10 PM, Kevin Meyers wrote: Just wondering…what type of work are you performing using VS2017? Hi, I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around. I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA. Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around. On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Well it all depends on what you're trying to do. Why do you need visual studio specifically? If you share what language you're coding in I can point you to alternate but slightly less accessible software.
On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison < foristnights@...> wrote:
I'm sticking with Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very
well for me. As for programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my
current configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine,
where I won't have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an
account, and most important of all, won't take forever to
configure!
Hi,
Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA,
installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work really well
with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared to JAWS' performance
in this program.)
If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program;
alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university
student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.
Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS (which
is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS
2005.
Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by Microsoft.
Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from someone who
still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into
the program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS
Express.
On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7
back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom
Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA
allows me to run. As for Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut
off after several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the
fact that I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in
the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus"
with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine,
since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus
who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going by drive
letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you
actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use
the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio
recordings and beginning programming on it.
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it
implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was
around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work
every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out
if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology
is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying
current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are
updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these
updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating
around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio
has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is
fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where
to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses,
malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it
updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've
already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive
three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive
by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back
up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what
programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own
virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets
customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read
about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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I don't have $99.00.
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio? You do know you can upgrade Jaws to the latest for $99? On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:52:20 -0400, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
[1 <text/plain; Windows-1252 (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; Windows-1252 (quoted-printable)>] I'm sticking with
Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very well for me. As for
programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my current
configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine, where I won't have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an account, and most important of all, won't take forever to configure!
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Hi,
Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA,
installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work
really well with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared
to JAWS' performance in this
program.)
If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program;
alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.
Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS
(which is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS 2005.
Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by
Microsoft. Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from
someone who still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into the program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS Express.
On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a free
upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017.
Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As
for Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut off after
several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact that
I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going by drive letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio recordings and beginning programming on it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it
implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work
every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted
out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays.
Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully
accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is
Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that
one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware,
adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it
updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my
machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by
reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I
formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover
what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't
get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can
use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and
audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their
own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the
accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-your
e-blind
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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You do know you can upgrade Jaws to the latest for $99? On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:52:20 -0400, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
[1 <text/plain; Windows-1252 (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; Windows-1252 (quoted-printable)>]
I'm sticking with Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very well for me. As for programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my current configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine, where I won't
have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an account, and most important of all, won't take forever to configure!
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Hi,
Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA, installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work really well with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared to JAWS' performance in this
program.)
If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program; alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.
Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS (which is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS 2005.
Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by Microsoft. Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from someone who still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into the
program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS Express.
On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As for Windows Updates, they cause my CD
Rom drive to shut off after several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact that I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes,
that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going
by drive letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio
recordings and beginning programming on it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current,
especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's
clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by
reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio
2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I
read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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#advisory
Great! Thanks for the info
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Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
What types of applications do you code in?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio? Hi, I used to do a lot of .NET development but now it's mostly C++. On 6/17/2019 12:10 PM, Kevin Meyers wrote: Just wondering…what type of work are you performing using VS2017? Hi, I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around. I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA. Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around. On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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I'm sticking with Windows 7 and JAWS 15, since they work very
well for me. As for programs, what would be a fully accessible solution for my
current configuration? I'd like a program that I can work with on any machine,
where I won't have to install it, one that doesn't require me to have an
account, and most important of all, won't take forever to
configure!
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hi,
Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to NVDA,
installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS work really well
with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower compared to JAWS' performance
in this program.)
If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program;
alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a university
student and your university has a site-wide license for JAWS.
Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest VS (which
is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you MUST stick to VS
2005.
Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by Microsoft.
Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a copy from someone who
still has a copy of it and hope that they haven't injected malicious code into
the program, and that they give you a registration key if it's not VS
Express.
On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
I got my computer with Windows 7
back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom
Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA
allows me to run. As for Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut
off after several hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the
fact that I have an authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in
the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus"
with a "K", not a "C"), is the one who tells me not to update that machine,
since both of us found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus
who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were going by drive
letter, so the second time we had to restore the machine, we learned that you
actually have to go by model number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use
the Internet with that machine, since I only perform music and audio
recordings and beginning programming on it.
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it
implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was
around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work
every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out
if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology
is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying
current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are
updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these
updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating
around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio
has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is
fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where
to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses,
malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it
updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've
already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive
three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive
by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back
up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what
programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own
virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets
customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read
about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: Need help with file explorer
Thanks. But what Siegard gave me worked, so I’m good. But your way works, too; so, now I have choices. Cheerfully, Shirley
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Hi,
I used to do a lot of .NET development but now it's mostly C++.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/17/2019 12:10 PM, Kevin Meyers
wrote:
Just wondering…what type of work are
you performing using VS2017?
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly
because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was
using when VS 2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use
it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS
and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get
that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be
using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what
it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current,
especially with development tools. Things like the VC++
runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as
well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you
really don't want floating around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan
Morison wrote:
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio
has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version
I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The
problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially
a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware,
spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it
updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility
on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to
working order by reimaging the hard drive three times
within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard
drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't
get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't
get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming
alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my
own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as
software that lets customers write their own scripts for
ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility
of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Hi,
Ok, if cost is prohibitive for you, I would suggest switching to
NVDA, installing Windows 10 and using VS 2017. Both NVDA and JAWS
work really well with VS 2017 (though NVDA's performance is slower
compared to JAWS' performance in this program.)
If you're in the US, you can get on the JAWS Home Annual program;
alternatively, you can get JAWS Home at no cost to you if you're a
university student and your university has a site-wide license for
JAWS.
Try to find a way to upgrade to Windows 10 and install the latest
VS (which is free by the way) before deciding definitely that you
MUST stick to VS 2005.
Getting VS 2005 will be difficult since it has been dropped by
Microsoft. Unless you have an MSDN account, you'll have to get a
copy from someone who still has a copy of it and hope that they
haven't injected malicious code into the program, and that they
give you a registration key if it's not VS Express.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/17/2019 1:35 PM, Annabelle Susan
Morison wrote:
I got my computer
with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a free upgrade to JAWS
15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017. Unfortunately, JAWS
15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As for Windows
Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut off after several
hours, which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact
that I have an authenticated version with a valid license.
It's a pain in the cushioned rear! My sighted friend, Markus
Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"), is the
one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us
found out the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus
who formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, as we were
going by drive letter, so the second time we had to restore
the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model
number (like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet
with that machine, since I only perform music and audio
recordings and beginning programming on it.
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because
it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when
VS 2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use
it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and
NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that
sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS
2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to
be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with
development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated
with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of
these updates patch security holes that you really don't want
floating around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle
Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that
Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS.
The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio
2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one,
especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware,
adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version,
but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader
compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it
back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three
times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong
hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I
didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I
can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming
alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own
virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software
that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies.
The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual
Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: JAWS License server upgrade to 2019 - impact to end users
#advisory
JAWS 2018 at the clients will still run and find a license when your
server is upgraded to 2019. If the clients want JAWS 2019 they have
to install 2019. It'll not happen automatically.
OZ0TE Jacob
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On 2019-06-17 19:24 nicole.bergstrom
via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello,
We are running a JAWS license server that is about to be upgraded
to v. 2019 - we are currently running v. 2018. My question is
about our end users who tap into this license server to use JAWS
for testing. Do our end users now need to also update their
desktop instance of JAWS to 2019 as well or will the software they
have on their local machines automatically update?
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JAWS License server upgrade to 2019 - impact to end users
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Hello,
We are running a JAWS license server that is about to be upgraded to v. 2019 - we are currently running v. 2018. My question is about our end users who tap into this license server to use JAWS for testing. Do our end users now need to also update their desktop instance of JAWS to 2019 as well or will the software they have on their local machines automatically update?
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
I got my computer with Windows 7 back in 2011, and I got a
free upgrade to JAWS 15, thanks to Freedom Scientific in 2017.
Unfortunately, JAWS 15 is the latest build my SMA allows me to run. As for
Windows Updates, they cause my CD Rom drive to shut off after several hours,
which makes JAWS turn into demo mode, despite the fact that I have an
authenticated version with a valid license. It's a pain in the cushioned rear!
My sighted friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a "K", not a "C"),
is the one who tells me not to update that machine, since both of us found out
the hard way what it does. In fact, it was Markus who formatted the wrong hard
drive by accident, as we were going by drive letter, so the second time we had
to restore the machine, we learned that you actually have to go by model number
(like ST1000 or ST3500). And, I don't use the Internet with that machine, since
I only perform music and audio recordings and beginning programming on
it.
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Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements
UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work
every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if
I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so
different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current,
especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated
with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch
security holes that you really don't want floating around.
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison
wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has
a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully
accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get
that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware,
spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows,
which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to
restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times
within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident,
and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard
drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming
alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual
instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write
their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the
accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
The latest versions are pretty accessible, I know about 2017 community edition and anything later than that should work reasonably well with Jaws, although not perfectly. It may update some libraries, but just create a restore point before installing and you should be fine. On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:46:00 -0400, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
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Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean
and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the
hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what
programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the
accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
Just wondering…what type of work are you performing using VS2017?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio? Hi, I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS 2005 was around. I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and NVDA. Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005 nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I strongly recommend staying current, especially with development tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch security holes that you really don't want floating around. On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote: I've read somewhere that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Also, I took a look at the Stack Overflow link you gave. The last
edit was in 2009, so I'd consider it outdated. Accessibility APIs
have changed drastically since that post.
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On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan
Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that
Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS.
The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio
2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one,
especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware,
adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but
it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on
my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working
order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years!
The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident,
and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back
up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I
wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I
want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software,
as well as software that lets customers write their own
scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the
accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
Hi,
I've found VS 2017 to be great in accessibility, mostly because
it implements UIA rather than whatever Microsoft was using when VS
2005 was around.
I'd argue that 2017 is the most accessible version yet. I use it
at work every day and it works really well with both JAWS and
NVDA.
Why does updating Windows "break" things for you? I'd get that
sorted out if I were you; people really shouldn't be using VS 2005
nowadays. Technology is so different from what it used to be and I
strongly recommend staying current, especially with development
tools. Things like the VC++ runtimes are updated with each new
version of Visual Studio as well, and many of these updates patch
security holes that you really don't want floating around.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/17/2019 10:46 AM, Annabelle Susan
Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I've read somewhere that
Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS.
The version I was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio
2005. The problem is, I'm not sure where to get that one,
especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses, malware,
adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but
it updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on
my machine. I've already had to restore it back to working
order by reimaging the hard drive three times within 8 years!
The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by accident,
and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back
up on that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I
wonder what programming alternative I can use? Particularly I
want to program my own virtual instruments and audio software,
as well as software that lets customers write their own
scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the
accessibility of Visual Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Accessible Version of Visual Studio?
Hi, it's
Annabelle.
I've read somewhere
that Visual Studio has a version that's fully accessible to JAWS. The version I
was told is fully accessible is Visual Studio 2005. The problem is, I'm not sure
where to get that one, especially a copy that's clean and free of viruses,
malware, adware, spyware, and the like. I've tried the new version, but it
updates Windows, which breaks screenreader compatibility on my machine. I've
already had to restore it back to working order by reimaging the hard drive
three times within 8 years! The first time, I formatted the wrong hard drive by
accident, and now I have to recover what I didn't get the chance to back up on
that hard drive. If I can't get Visual Studio 2005, I wonder what programming
alternative I can use? Particularly I want to program my own virtual instruments
and audio software, as well as software that lets customers write their own
scripts for ceremonies. The site where I read about the accessibility of Visual
Studio 2005 is here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/118984/how-can-you-program-if-youre-blind
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Re: Need help with file explorer
Hi Shirley, Simply focus on any file or folder, then arrow right, until you hear Date Split Button, then press space on it. Job done. All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: 16 June 2019 23:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help with file explorer Hi listers, In my great wisdom, I managed to invert the listed files. Not sure how I did it, but those beginning with the letter Z are on top and the files beginning with the letter A are at the bottom. Not a terrible thing, but annoying. Since I don’t know how it got this way, I can’t figure out how to put it back the way I’m used to it. Can someone please help me? FYI, I’m using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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Re: Need help with file explorer
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi Shirley/all, Just go to the view menue, then sorting order, then check the box named ascend and this should do the trick. Hope this helps, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help with file explorer Hi listers, In my great wisdom, I managed to invert the listed files. Not sure how I did it, but those beginning with the letter Z are on top and the files beginning with the letter A are at the bottom. Not a terrible thing, but annoying. Since I don’t know how it got this way, I can’t figure out how to put it back the way I’m used to it. Can someone please help me? FYI, I’m using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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