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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
I find that to be the case with FireFox also, on the occasions where Chrome or IE won't work well enough.
Pam ________________________________________ From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel via Groups.Io [sieghard=live.ca@groups.io] Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us. Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this. On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote: Hi all: Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best. Thanks. Best, James Gashel M: (808) 234-9259 E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com> Connect with me on FaceBook <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fjames.gashel&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C0bbf8cbb24cc4707651c08d6ff1958d3%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636976881661255373&sdata=gN275PHt6XAb79lW%2F54w%2FGCnKGe55T2zbls0LcwdM7k%3D&reserved=0> , or Follow me on Twitter <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FJGashel&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C0bbf8cbb24cc4707651c08d6ff1958d3%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636976881661255373&sdata=i3eND9YYPTtRFPbS92mHBlZIKvFpbw0jmONuH4ZVv%2BU%3D&reserved=0>
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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
What frustrates me each time I try to use IE for whatever reason (extremely rare now) is how slow it is.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us. Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this. On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote: Hi all: Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best. Thanks. Best, James Gashel M: (808) 234-9259 E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com> Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel> , or Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>
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Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
As much as you may not like this answer, there may not be a good solution for this.
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The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale where I have similar issues. Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and then open your program and see if it helped: 1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the search box, then tab once and you should have the following two results: Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages checked, ReadingUse Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture checked, Miscellaneous not checked 4. Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it. 6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find that some applications work better with the old accessibility display driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked. And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information when the accessibility display driver is unchecked. Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here: Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch cursor Regards, Sieghard Best regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor. Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days ago i upgrade to windows 10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution is wellcome and thanks for any assistance. regards, --Kostas--
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Re: Posting a comment to FB
The Iowa Gal <iowagal728@...>
Hi, thanks for the comment but if you read my initial post carefully it will explain in detail what I’m trying to do and what I tried to do it. But it’s all good now.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 1:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Posting a comment to FB
Hi. Not sure, the post button is right there for me, though it’s labelled “comment button”. Perhaps facebook is temporarily broken for you. They have a number of servers and they’re not all always fully functional at the same time. If you tab once from the field you type into m.facebook.com though to leave a comment, you should normally find that button immediately using firefox.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Hi group,
Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…
Thanks, Norma
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Re: JAWS and NVDA
Dan Longmore
Well said. Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
What has been pointed out by the two prior correspondents, that this question is too vast to be tidily answered, and that the answers are entirely based on what one is trying to accomplish and under what specific circumstances, are both absolutely true. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: JAWS and NVDA
What has been pointed out by the two prior correspondents, that this question is too vast to be tidily answered, and that the answers are entirely based on what one is trying to accomplish and under what specific circumstances, are both absolutely true.
I tutor JAWS but have never owned it (other than to have a copy in 40-minute mode) because of its expense. I used (and still use) NVDA often when I'm even trying to figure out something for one of my JAWS clients, as the overlap is extensive and once you know where the differences lie "translation" between the command set for the two is not all that difficult. With the introduction of Narrator, and the amount of work Microsoft has been putting into it (and is continuing to do so) there is definitely a "new kid on the block" for Windows 10 (and I think Windows 8.1) users as well. Invariably there are situations where one screen reader "plays better" with a given application, website, etc., than another does. You may only be able to be fully proficient with one, but it's not that difficult to get basically proficient with others, and it's distinctly to your advantage to do so. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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Re: JAWS and NVDA
Tanguy LOHEAC
Hello Anna To my personal experience I would say that NVDA fills most of
your needs for home use. I mean if you use your computer just for
mailing, basic word processing and media playing, that's good. But
honnestly, i perosnnaly use both depending on the situation. There
are cases where NVDA can detect things that Jaws doesn't and
vice-versa. For example, on Windows 10 modern apps, NVDA makes the
job better than Jaws. But on the Internet, I prefer using Jaws
because it is smarter in rendering content. For professional use, to my opinion, Jaws is far more powerful, typically when you have to use dedicated job apps that are more and more web based applciations, or simply for using with Powerpoint..
But all of this is only my own point of view. Tanguy Le 29/06/2019 à 01:32, Anna Givens a
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Good evening, I’m wondering if someone could tell me about the differences between JAWS and NVDA. I know NVDA is free and JAWS is not. I’m wondering why people choose JAWS, and what NVDA is good for. Commonalities, differences, preferences, etc. Thanks so much, Anna E --
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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
Gudrun Brunot
Amen to that. I still use IE. I have Chrome as my default, but, when that
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frustrates me, I got back to ol' IE. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us. Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this. On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote: Hi all: Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best. Thanks. Best, James Gashel M: (808) 234-9259 E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com> Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel> , or Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>
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Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
l. radical
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days ago i upgrade to windows 10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution is wellcome and thanks for any assistance. regards, --Kostas--
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Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?
Gudrun Brunot
Hi all: I actually do alt-d to highlight the url in the address bar;
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copy it to the clipboard. If I'm on a hunt for something and want to save a few addresses as bookmark; I have a notepad file open. If I need to; ai write som e identifier above the url; apst it in on its own line below the identifier. When I have the ones I want to put into favorites; I call up old Internet Explorer and do control-o; paste in the url; then alt-a to grab that as a favorite. I do the same with the ones I've caught with Crome. So; basically; I'm still using IE--instead of getting a third-party favorites manager. I just can't stand not having my favorites conveniently available on my hard drive ready to grab sith my hotkey anywhere. Yes; it may not be the fastest way imaginable; but it works and I get the favorites where I want them and can move them into their proper folder/subfolder to my heart's content. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 6:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS? But no way to actually organize them in folders like IE? What will happen if I import all my folders from IE? Sharon From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 4:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? Hi Sharron, I actually found bookmarks the hardest transition when I first moved from IE to chrome, but now use chrome all the time and almost never use IE any more. One tip I can give regarding bookmarks which I found really helpful with Chrome is there is a key combination to quickly access bookmarks in a list similar to how IE displays them. If you press and hold ALT and then press F (it should say context menu at this stage), then release alt and f, press b (it should say something like bookmarks sub menu), simply press right cursor key and you're in the list of bookmarks. I realised As I wrote that it actually sounds more complicated than it actually is , but I do find this key stroke a really quick and easy way of accessing bookmarks in chrome. Hope that helps. Paul From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: 27 June 2019 10:54 To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? What do you mean as menus being quite as deep as? I'm confused about bookmarks for example in both Firefox and Google Chrome. IE is so simple. I don't know what I'm missing here. Sharon From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS? I don't think there is one best web browser. The chromium-based ones are okay, although I try to avoid actual google chrome because of its spying. I'd much rather use brave it blocks ads and lets me read things where other browsers just say you have to subscribe or allow ads. I like firefox for the fact that its menus aren't buried quite as deep as chromium-based browsers. Other than the menus they all basically work the same, so there really is no reason to restrict yourself to only using one browser. On 6/26/2019 15:07, James Gashel wrote: Hi all: Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best. Thanks. Best, James Gashel M: (808) 234-9259 E: jgashel0923@gmail.com <mailto:jgashel0923@gmail.com> Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel> , or Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/JGashel>
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Re: Excel Formula
Gudrun Brunot
John,: If you want to make sure, use the ASCII characters alt-8220 for open
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quote, alt-8221 for close quotes. Gudrun Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Excel Formula How do you type these smart quotes? On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:57:34 -0400, Mario wrote: quotes. the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesisdata. You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: JAWS and NVDA
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
That is a vast question. The more we know about what applications you use, what your aspirations are, and what your experience is, the more useful information we can give. JAWS is more often used in employment settings. Some say NVDA is better on the web, I don't know enough to make that comparison. JAWS is somewhat more configurable, with more settings. But NVDA is a very viable program now, and if you do not need JAWS for work, NVDA may well meet your needs. It is free, but they always ask their users for optional contributions of money.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anna Givens Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:33 PM To: Jaws Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; Jaws List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: JAWS and NVDA Good evening, I’m wondering if someone could tell me about the differences between JAWS and NVDA. I know NVDA is free and JAWS is not. I’m wondering why people choose JAWS, and what NVDA is good for. Commonalities, differences, preferences, etc. Thanks so much, Anna E
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Customer Relationship Management Program (CRM)
Kevin Stone <kevinstone65@...>
Hi, has anyone used a program called Act with jaws?
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JAWS and NVDA
Anna Givens
Good evening,
I’m wondering if someone could tell me about the differences between JAWS and NVDA. I know NVDA is free and JAWS is not. I’m wondering why people choose JAWS, and what NVDA is good for. Commonalities, differences, preferences, etc. Thanks so much, Anna E
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Re: command line to enforce jaws restart
Loy
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This does not work for me, is there something in
JAWS to change to make this work?
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Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart
NFB Lab 4
There is a shortcut key that will do the same thing. Insert windows F4 will shut down and restart jaws
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On Jun 28, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
Randy Barnett
I will keep this in mind and give 16 a
try if i have any issues.
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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
dennis
i use jaws 16 with 2019. i never had
luck with 17 or 18. 16 is a very solid backup for me, specially
with older programs. for example, avast does not work with 2019.
i have to use jaws 16.
On 7/1/2019 4:12 PM, Randy Barnett
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Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?
Randy Barnett
I have some programs for my work that
will not work with anything later than jaws 17... They are
criticle to my work and I cant go without them. For the same
reason my work PC is still running win 7 with jaws 17 for some
programs and jaws 2019 for general use.
Dreading the day they stop working with
Jaws and windows... NVDA may be in my future... No guaranty of
this working in the future either.
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Re: Jaws Convenient OCr doesn't work either.
As I said, did you set up your scanner? Might want to call FS support since I definitely know this works for others who have compatible scanners.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 1:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jaws Convenient OCr doesn't work either. i take it back. the Jaws Convenient OCr only works with files. i haven't tried it on web pages. but the Jaws Convenient OCr doesn't work either on my scanner. it just says it could not detect text. even though the scanner head doesn't even move. the same with picture smart. -----Original Message----- From: netbat66 via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked. yes it does. -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 12:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked. Does the same scanner work with Jaws Convenient OCr? I currently only have two Fujitsu Scansnap scanners at my business and they don't support TWAIN so I don't think I can use them with Openbook or Jaws Convenient OCR, but I am pretty sure you first have to somehow set up or select your scanner for it to work with Jaws Convenient OCR or Picture Smart. Also, here is some information about Picture Smart in case others have problems with it: To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be enabled in Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Freedom Scientific. The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services (such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and returns the descriptions back to us. These descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting is off, a message displays prompting you to turn it on. Note: Picture Smart is currently only available while in the English Language UI of JAWS and Fusion as the services that perform the image analysis do not currently support international languages for descriptions of images. For users of localized versions of JAWS running in versions of Windows other than English, you must switch the JAWS UI language to English to try out this feature. We plan to make Picture Smart available in more languages in the future as these services continue to expand to include additional languages. If you actually have physical photos I guess you can always scan and save a picture as a PDF or JPG file and then use Picture Smart to recognize the image file. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked. it fails when i try to use the del all in one scanner to detect pictures. it works on picture files. all it does is say it failed to detect text. but the scanner doesn't even move. the same scanner works with openbook and the windows paint program. -----Original Message----- From: Munawar Bijani Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked. What error message do you get? On 7/1/2019 1:42 PM, netbat66 wrote: in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not
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