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Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

Debby Hill
 

Hi,

 

Where I volunteer I am using a windows 7 machine, Jaws 2018 and Excel 2010. To get the background color change to report I have to press insert + 5 or insert + F twice to hear the changed background color. It probably shouldnt be that way, but it works!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

Hi Russell,

 

You could put, no shading, into the Jaws dictionary and set it so nothing is said or assign a sound to it.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:09 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊

 

Thanks again.

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red.  You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel.  I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version.  Not sure which update broke this function.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:40 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.

 

Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!

 

Thanks for any feedback.

 

Russell



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Re: getting dectalk software back

Rick Mladek
 

Hi,

 

Google up Access Solutions and call them. Mike will be able to tell you if the current drivers will work.

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting dectalk software back

 

Hi, is there a way to get the dectalk to work with the current version of jaws?


getting dectalk software back

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, is there a way to get the dectalk to work with the current version of jaws?


Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Apart from the shortcuts, Alt + L, Alt + R and Alt + D you can just use Jaws Key + F111 and arrow to your Wi-Fi, then tab. Sorry if I didn’t specify this, I assumed you knew about this and that there are these options in addition to just pressing enter which doesn’t always work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?





Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Bill White
 

ALT plus R = Right Click

ALT plus L = Left Click

ALT plus D = Left Double Click

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok but why is there 2 key commands to left click? I'm using a lenovo laptop so I don't have a physical mouse.


On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Maria. All you need to do to get the options is, when you use JAWS key plus F11, don’t press ENTER. Just TAB, and JAWS will say in order:

 

Right Single Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+R

Left Single Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+L

Left Double Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+D

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?





Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Bill White
 

There are two commands for each of the options, in case one wants to use a key command, rather than just using the space bar.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok but why is there 2 key commands to left click? I'm using a lenovo laptop so I don't have a physical mouse.


On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Maria. All you need to do to get the options is, when you use JAWS key plus F11, don’t press ENTER. Just TAB, and JAWS will say in order:

 

Right Single Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+R

Left Single Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+L

Left Double Click  Button  

To activate press spacebar.

alt+D

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?





Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Maria Reyes
 

Ok but why is there 2 key commands to left click? I'm using a lenovo laptop so I don't have a physical mouse.

On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Maria. All you need to do to get the options is, when you use JAWS key plus F11, don’t press ENTER. Just TAB, and JAWS will say in order:

 

Right Single Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+R

Left Single Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+L

Left Double Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+D

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?





Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Bill White
 

Hi, Maria. All you need to do to get the options is, when you use JAWS key plus F11, don’t press ENTER. Just TAB, and JAWS will say in order:

 

Right Single Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+R

Left Single Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+L

Left Double Click  Button 

To activate press spacebar.

alt+D

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?





Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Maria Reyes
 

Ok. That's what I get when using Narrator. How do I left and right click? 

On Apr 14, 2019, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?




Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Here is what I get if I go to the System Tray with Jaws Key + F11, then to my Wi-Fi network which is called SJR and then activate with a left double click (the trick is that you have to take advantage of the Jaws options Left Single Click, Right Single Click and Left Double Click, enter does not work here, but that is why these options exist:

List box
SJR Connected, secured Signal 4 out of four bars 1 of 17 – here I can arrow down through the list of WiFi networks in range

If I tab I get the following:

Properties Link 1 of 1 – tab again

Disconnect Button 1 of 1 – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link – tab again

Wi-Fi Button checked – tab again

Airplane mode Button not checked – tab again

Mobile hotspot Button not checked – tab again

Network & Internet settings Link - if I keep tabbing from here the sequence from Wi-Fi button to Network and Internet Setting repeats.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 


On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?




Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Maria Reyes
 

Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator 

On Apr 14, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

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The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?



Re: Save Icon not visible

 

I assume it is not possible for anybody to go to this website?
Have you tried to find this with the Jaws cursor or have you tried to tab or to turn off virtual cursor and then tab?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Klaus Vielhauer
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 4:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Save Icon not visible

Hello,
I run the latest version of Jaws and Windows 10
Situation: I access a webpage where I can edit music albums for my Innuos audio network player At the right bottom of the screen is a "Save" Icon to save my changes.
Problem: I cannot find this Icon with Jaws - it is probably not labelled nor classed?.
So far,
1. When my wife places the mouse on the Icon the Jaws command "cursor to Jaws" will activate the Icon.
2. I tried to set a placemarker - however since PC cursor to Jaws immediately activates the ICon and it disappears this does not work.
   Or do I miss something so far I could not in Jaws cursor mode set a placemarker?
Please help.
Klaus


Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

Can you explain in more detail what you mean by “Network area”? I just went to Settings > Network and Internet” and Jaws reads many things when tabbing through these different categories although I am using Jaws 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

 

 

Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?



Re: Strange Outlook Issue

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

I ultimately may try the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline, but the problem seems to have lessened somewhat in the last day or two.

 

I’ll keep the list posted if it recurs, or if I do end up calling Microsoft.

 

Thankyou!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Have you tried Microsoft Acccessibility? I don’t ever recall that a message I replied to was not telling me “Replied” when I arrowed down the messages in my Inbox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

               Well, at least I know I’m not alone.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Hi,

  Yes, I have the same issues.  Recent updates to Outlook have improved but not fixed the problem.  Sometimes the reply designation works and other times no. Like you, have not found a consistent reason or fix. 

Dan  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:19 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am not sure if this a Jaws or an Outlook problem, but I am experienceing strange and inconsistent behavior in Outlook with regard to  noting e-mails that I have replied to.

 

Up until recently, if I replied to an e-mail, and decided to keep the original e-mail in my inbox, that e-mail would have a “replied” designation associated with it.  I find this to be quite handy, especially when I have e-mails that require multiple responses or action steps.

 

However, within  the past week or so, I no longer consistently receive these “replied” designations.  In other words, sometimes I receive the designations, while other times, I do not.

 

This is a problem, since I sometimes can’t recall whether I’ve initially replied to a message, and have to go back into my sent file to find out for sure.

 

Does anyone know how to consistently restore the “replied” designation on e-mails to which I’ve already responded?

 

I’m currently using the latest build of Jaws 2019 with the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016, and Windows 10.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Have you tried Microsoft Acccessibility? I don’t ever recall that a message I replied to was not telling me “Replied” when I arrowed down the messages in my Inbox.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

               Well, at least I know I’m not alone.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Hi,

  Yes, I have the same issues.  Recent updates to Outlook have improved but not fixed the problem.  Sometimes the reply designation works and other times no. Like you, have not found a consistent reason or fix. 

Dan  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:19 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Strange Outlook Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am not sure if this a Jaws or an Outlook problem, but I am experienceing strange and inconsistent behavior in Outlook with regard to  noting e-mails that I have replied to.

 

Up until recently, if I replied to an e-mail, and decided to keep the original e-mail in my inbox, that e-mail would have a “replied” designation associated with it.  I find this to be quite handy, especially when I have e-mails that require multiple responses or action steps.

 

However, within  the past week or so, I no longer consistently receive these “replied” designations.  In other words, sometimes I receive the designations, while other times, I do not.

 

This is a problem, since I sometimes can’t recall whether I’ve initially replied to a message, and have to go back into my sent file to find out for sure.

 

Does anyone know how to consistently restore the “replied” designation on e-mails to which I’ve already responded?

 

I’m currently using the latest build of Jaws 2019 with the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016, and Windows 10.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

Mike B
 


Hi Russell,
 
You could put, no shading, into the Jaws dictionary and set it so nothing is said or assign a sound to it.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

Hi,

 

Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊

 

Thanks again.

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red.  You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel.  I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version.  Not sure which update broke this function.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:40 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.

 

Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!

 

Thanks for any feedback.

 

Russell



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Accessible price tracking extensions?

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

I’m in search of an accessible price tracking service/extension. I’ve tried CamelCamelCamel Keepa, Price Plus and Honey for example. For the usual sites, Amazon, NewEgg, BestBuy and so on,  but all in all, they don’t really provide this info in an accessible format. They’re all pretty much graph/chart driven. There is sometimes some info that can be accessed. CamelCamelCamel can provide the highest/lowest price, but as far as more detailed info? Not really.

Is anyone aware of a service/extension that can provide this sort of information in an accessible manner? I’m guessing most likely in a table format? To be clear, I’m not looking for a price tracker that can alert one when there’s a price drop. That I can get to work fine. It’s the historical price tracking stuff I’m interested in.

My main screen reader is Jaws, but I can also use NVDA if that makes any sort of a difference.

Thanks,

 


Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

 

Thanks for confirming that I’m not the only one having this issue. I found a bit of a workaround. There is a setting in Excel, under Quick Settings (Insert + V) called “Shading changes indication”, and when I turn this on, Jaws will announce any color shading changes when moving into a cell. I would still prefer the usual keystrokes to give me that info, but till Vispero sees fit to fix this issue, I’ll continue with the Shading changes indication. The only thing I don’t like about this setting is that every time I go to a cell with no shading, I must hear Jaws say “no shading”. Not a big deal, just a little annoying! 😊

 

Thanks again.

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

I do not have a sheet with conditional formatting, but I did just fill a cell with red.  You are not the first person I’ve heard say there was an issue with JAWS reporting the background color in Excel.  I’m still on JAWS 2019 1810 here at work and it seems to be working correctly on this version.  Not sure which update broke this function.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 10:40 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2019 not giving background color in Excel 2016 or 2019

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am trying to use Conditional formatting in both Excel 2016 and 2019. I choose to use a formula to decide which cells are formatted, choose cells in sheet 1 that do not equal cells in sheet 2, and choose to fill the cells matching the criteria with a red background fill. The conditional formatting is working, but using Jaws 2019, I have no way of knowing whether or not it is working, because Jaws reads “text color black, background color white” when I press Insert + F, and “Black on white” when I press Insert + 5 on cells that have different values. If I load NVDA and press Insert+ F on these cells, NVDA says “black on bright red background”.

 

Has anyone else noticed this? I am getting so frustrated with Jaws not being able to do basic things like this when a free screen reader like NVDA is able to do it with no problem!

 

Thanks for any feedback.

 

Russell



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Save Icon not visible

Klaus Vielhauer
 

Hello,
I run the latest version of Jaws and Windows 10
Situation: I access a webpage where I can edit music albums for my Innuos audio network player
At the right bottom of the screen is a "Save" Icon to save my changes.
Problem: I cannot find this Icon with Jaws - it is probably not labelled nor classed?.
So far,
1. When my wife places the mouse on the Icon the Jaws command "cursor to Jaws" will activate the Icon.
2. I tried to set a placemarker - however since PC cursor to Jaws immediately activates the ICon and it disappears this does not work.
   Or do I miss something so far I could not in Jaws cursor mode set a placemarker?
Please help.
Klaus


Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section

Richard Turner
 


Yes, a good example of where one needs to launch Narrator since Jaws through 2019 seem to be mostly useless in there.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreyes901@...> wrote:

Hi I am using Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. When I tab around the network area Jaws doesn't say anything. I just hear tab tab tab. Is this fixable or is this a bug?