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Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Maria Reyes
 

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

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Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

Barbara Black
 

Thanks everyone – I’m all set – this was my first time asking this list a question and you were all terrific!

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of William Hersh
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi Barbara

 

Via windows:

 

windows key

default apps

tab to set default by app

tab to list box

arrow to Adobe Acrobat reader

tab to manage button press enter

tab to .pdf

press enter

tab to Adobe and press enter

close window

 

alternatively:

 

Open Adobe Reader, then select “Edit” > “Preferences“.

Select “General“

Choose the “Select as Default PDF Handler” button.

Select “Continue“, then follow the steps provided.

Let Windows do its thing, then restart the computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

William Hersh
 

Hi Barbara

 

Via windows:

 

windows key

default apps

tab to set default by app

tab to list box

arrow to Adobe Acrobat reader

tab to manage button press enter

tab to .pdf

press enter

tab to Adobe and press enter

close window

 

alternatively:

 

Open Adobe Reader, then select “Edit” > “Preferences“.

Select “General“

Choose the “Select as Default PDF Handler” button.

Select “Continue“, then follow the steps provided.

Let Windows do its thing, then restart the computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I don’t see it, but make sure the correct Outlook script file is loaded by pressing JAWS Key+Q.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 13 February 2019 22:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

 

Hello Amy,
Yes. I experience the same issue. What does freedom scientific and technical support have to say about it?
Thanks,
Darrell

 


On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Amy Bower <abower@...> wrote:

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Just go to a PDF file in File Explorer, press Alt + Enter for Properties and then Shift + tab which should put you on the “Change” button. Activate it and select Adobe Acrobat Reader DC then make sure to always use this app, tab to OK and activate it, tab to OK for the file properties and activate it and that’s it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

I don’t think archiving is the same thing and I assume that it is just not something you have to worry about any more.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

I recall that option from the past.  Looks like it’s call archiving now.  I found my mailbox size on the Account Info and it says to decrease your mailbox size by deleting messages and archiving.  The auto archiving settings are under File > Options .  Go to the Advanced tab of the Options dialog and a archive button is there to select your settings.  Not as straight forward as the compact function from the past, but probably more customizable.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

Hello:

I have two questions

Where is the compact option in Out 2016?

 

Thank you.

 

 



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Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

James Homuth
 

does Waterfox still use the old extension API? I know a few people who've switched away from other FF forks when that API was security patched, but wasn't sure if Waterfox was one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.
FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
4eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6368
53382208725746&amp;sdata=v1MtQQDyyF025DL1dcmIcVLKDg5GCQHxV0AwuyMdJbg%
3D&amp;reserved=0











Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.
FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
4eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6368
53382208725746&amp;sdata=v1MtQQDyyF025DL1dcmIcVLKDg5GCQHxV0AwuyMdJbg%
3D&amp;reserved=0











Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

Barbara Black
 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

James Homuth
 

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


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Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
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Re: Msword question

JM Casey
 

He doesn’t want to move from one to another, he wants to close or hide  it entirely so it does not show on the screen.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Palmer Loux
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Msword question

 

F6 moves you from one pane to another count how many times you have to press to get you to “print view edit”


On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

All you need do is press F6 a couple of times, and the search feature will close, and you will be back in your document.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Msword question

 

Hello:

How to close the navigation payne after using the search feature.

Icould not find the feature.

My tutor wanted to close it for me but, there has to be a way that we can close it with the Keyboard?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 


--
Palmer from CBVI


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: waterfox

JM Casey
 

Hi.
I just opened waterfox, went to a page on The Register (tech news site), and invoked the reader view with alt-ctrl-r. It seems to be working. Perhaps try it with this page:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/11/microsoft_roundup/

The reader will not work on all pages, only on ones that the browser thinks are formatted like an article of some kind, I think. SO if you can't invoke it, maybe you haven't yet tried it on a page where it would apply.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox

none of them work for me with waterfox. i can press the keys until the cows come home and nothing happens.; i even tried the jaws pass through function. and tried with no screen reader loaded.
i can still see when there is changes on the screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox



Alt-ctrl-r is also a key command that is supposed to work in firefox, but it
never has, for me. Instead, pressing f9 does the trick. I think I tested it
once so far in Waterfox and, indeed, f9 does not seem to do anything. I will
try accessing the reader through the menu or the alt-ctrl keystroke and see.



BTW, as nice as the reader function is, everybody should be aware that it’s not
perfect at determiningg what is “useful content” on a page, and you may
occasionally miss something important while using it. It is nice for reading
articles, just be aware that it’s not 100% dependable.









From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 13, 2019 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox





in waterfox it's alt control r. it just shows the article and not the entire
page.



On 2/13/2019 12:44 AM, netbat66 wrote:



when do you use it and what is it suppose to do? i have pressed f9 on several
web pages and nothing has happened.

-----Original Message----- From: dennis
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: waterfox



i love the reader function in waterfox. just tried it for the first time and
wow what a treat.



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Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

Dan Longmore
 

Amy,

  Virtual cursor is active with html  or web format.  Often e-mails come through in html although you can choose to send in plain text.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

 

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.
FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
4eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6368
53382208725746&amp;sdata=v1MtQQDyyF025DL1dcmIcVLKDg5GCQHxV0AwuyMdJbg%
3D&amp;reserved=0











Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

JM Casey
 

Hi.

 

This happens to me sometimes too, though not consistently.

Basically when you are reading  a message, the virtual cursor is on by default if it’s an html message. When you hit reply and start typing, sometimes it doesn’t switch off.

Hit insert-z and it should turn off.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: February 13, 2019 4:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

 

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
 

Hello Amy,
Yes. I experience the same issue. What does freedom scientific and technical support have to say about it?
Thanks,
Darrell



On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Amy Bower <abower@...> wrote:

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

Amy Bower
 

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

thomas f dinkel
 

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad4844eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636853382208725746&amp;sdata=v1MtQQDyyF025DL1dcmIcVLKDg5GCQHxV0AwuyMdJbg%3D&amp;reserved=0











Re: waterfox

netbat66
 

none of them work for me with waterfox. i can press the keys until the cows come home and nothing happens.;
i even tried the jaws pass through function. and tried with no screen reader loaded.
i can still see when there is changes on the screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox



Alt-ctrl-r is also a key command that is supposed to work in firefox, but it never has, for me. Instead, pressing f9 does the trick. I think I tested it once so far in Waterfox and, indeed, f9 does not seem to do anything. I will try accessing the reader through the menu or the alt-ctrl keystroke and see.



BTW, as nice as the reader function is, everybody should be aware that it’s not perfect at determiningg what is “useful content” on a page, and you may occasionally miss something important while using it. It is nice for reading articles, just be aware that it’s not 100% dependable.









From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 13, 2019 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox





in waterfox it's alt control r. it just shows the article and not the entire page.



On 2/13/2019 12:44 AM, netbat66 wrote:



when do you use it and what is it suppose to do? i have pressed f9 on several web pages and nothing has happened.

-----Original Message----- From: dennis
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: waterfox



i love the reader function in waterfox. just tried it for the first time and wow what a treat.



Virus-free. www.avast.com

















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