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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

So, is the scripting language constently beeing updated, if errors are found, and if so, do you have to re-compile scripts with a new version of the script editor?  Also, what language are scripts written in, c, c+ e t c?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi,

A few points to answer here:

  1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.
  2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it across.
  3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back to it next day.

HTH,

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

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>If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>appreciate it.  I have never found the

>scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>   Explanations exist; they have existed for

>all time; there is always a well-known solution

>to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi,

A few points to answer here:

  1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.
  2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it across.
  3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back to it next day.

HTH,

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

 

to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

 

 

Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

----------------------------------------

>If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>appreciate it.  I have never found the

>scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>   Explanations exist; they have existed for

>all time; there is always a well-known solution

>to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

The script won't compile if there are syntax errors. Imagine that you
were working on a script but had to leave your computer for some
reason, but did not want to lose your work. You might be in the middle
of troubleshooting something by editing your script file, but not be
able to compile it because you might still be editing it.

On 11/28/18, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
So, why would you save with out compiling?
----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?


to compile a jaws script, you must have the
script file loaded and you simply save the script
with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save
without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:
----------------------------------------
If anyone can point me to the instructions with
regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would
appreciate it. I have never found the
scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
----------------------------------------








Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?


to compile a jaws script, you must have the
script file loaded and you simply save the script
with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save
without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:
----------------------------------------
If anyone can point me to the instructions with
regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would
appreciate it. I have never found the
scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
----------------------------------------

looks like it is working again

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

                Hi, A few hours ago, any message I sent to this list did not get through but now all seems well again.

 

Now that the main Jaws list works, will try the W10 list  because this was also blocking me.

 

Tom

 

test message, please ignore

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

This is just some junk

 

Re: Tables in word

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Thanks! That worked!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tables in word

 

I found one way while looking for the option on the ribbons.

Hit alt+q to get into the “tell me what you want to do” screen, and type convert table to text and hit enter.

You will be in the feature to separate the text with tabs or comma, etc.  Make your selection and tab to OK and hit enter.

You now have just the text.

Since it is one column, I am not sure what selection in those options you want, but give it a try.  Just don’t save the document until you are sure you have what you want.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Tables in word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using Jaws 2018, windows10 and word 2016. I copied some text from a web site. When I pasted into a word document the text shows in a table that is one column. Is there a way to remove the table and leave the text?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

Re: Jaws and MS word

Chris Hill
 

What version of word?

On 11/27/2018 18:50, Don H wrote:
Running Jaws 2019 on a Win 10 1809 laptop.
If I use the spell checker in Microsoft Word Jaws locks.  At that point I can not close the spell checker or save the word document.  Is this a known issue with Jaws 2019?


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

Thanks for the advice.  I hope I will be able to communicate this to my client, as this is a bit more than typical "end user" information.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Jaws and MS word

Don H
 

Running Jaws 2019 on a Win 10 1809 laptop.
If I use the spell checker in Microsoft Word Jaws locks. At that point I can not close the spell checker or save the word document. Is this a known issue with Jaws 2019?

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Mario
 

huh? please explain, or point me to an explanation so I understand.

I got the part about compiling after writing a script, but are you
saying the .jsb file does not save to the folder from where the .jss is
created?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Nermin via Groups.Io [mailto:voy44=yahoo.de@groups.io]
Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

HI Brian,
you have to compile the corresponding script for it to work.
Bear in mind that the resulting .jsb file will hold the compiled copy of
that particular script and is found in the JAWS user directory for the
version under which it was previously compiled.
Regards,
Nermin

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

ratshtron
 

to compile a jaws script, you must have the
script file loaded and you simply save the script
with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save
without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:
----------------------------------------
If anyone can point me to the instructions with
regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would
appreciate it. I have never found the
scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem — neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
----------------------------------------

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Nermin
 

Hi Brian,
 
you basically press control+s once you’ve written up your script and wait for the compiler to finish or tell you if there are any errors in line x or argument y or whatever. You can add documentation to each script using control+d, and you can assign a shurtcut to something as well.
But I am no professional scripter by any means.
 
Regards,
Nermin

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

If anyone can point me to the instructions with regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would appreciate it.  I have never found the scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Nermin
 

HI Brian,
 
you have to compile the corresponding script for it to work.
Bear in mind that the resulting .jsb file will hold the compiled copy of that particular script and is found in the JAWS user directory for the version under which it was previously compiled.
 
Regards,
Nermin

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Shan Noyes
 

No jaws scrips have to be compile Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

           I've got a client who had a one-line JAWS script written years ago for a specific application she uses, and JAWS used to work with it in conjunction with that tweak.  I cannot, however, get JAWS 2018 or JAWS 2019 to do so, and I think I'm missing a step somewhere.

           I had thought JAWS scripts were interpreted and loaded by JAWS at startup time, but that does not appear to be the case (unless I'm doing something else wrong).

           I figure someone here should be able to guide me about how to get a pre-existing script moved along to a newer version of JAWS.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

Hello All,

           I've got a client who had a one-line JAWS script written years ago for a specific application she uses, and JAWS used to work with it in conjunction with that tweak.  I cannot, however, get JAWS 2018 or JAWS 2019 to do so, and I think I'm missing a step somewhere.

           I had thought JAWS scripts were interpreted and loaded by JAWS at startup time, but that does not appear to be the case (unless I'm doing something else wrong).

           I figure someone here should be able to guide me about how to get a pre-existing script moved along to a newer version of JAWS.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello All  Is jaws accessible to read on www.facebook.com  ? I have been using m.facebook.com  website  I’m having problem not receiving notifications page with the people who’s I’m following and like theirs page to receive theirs post on notification on m.facebook.com  I was wonder if I need to go to regular facebook website. I noticed on yesterday I went on lite.facebook.com website and heard some of the people that I’m follow is there but when I press enter on it jaws is little behave acts on the page. I really need some help here because I can’t use my mobile phone with hearing impairment not able to hear voiceover loud enough to understandit. I have desktop and laptop computer.

Addison

 


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Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

Sharon
 

Okay, I think I figured part of it out. I have to use IE, Firefox and Google Chrome for different tasks. The videos are mostly not shown on the mobile site. When I go to the main site, I can see the videos, but the only thing I can see is the duration of each one. It’s a pain, but I can at least listen to them.

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

Some of this I can’t help you with, but here are a couple thoughts. The q qhick key takes you straight to the main region, where the principle item on the current page is to be found.  It’s a great time saver.  Also, for finding videos, I would use the b navigation key to see if there any play or pause buttons, and perhaps the c key to find combo boxes which might be used for duration. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

The problem is that I can’t find the videos. Some seem to be under discussion. Some seem to be other places, and some I just can’t find. How do you know what section you are in when you first click on the group? I see everything in the menu with the exception of videos. Is the word video in the menu, or am I just not seeing it?

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

I would use the main site. There are menus built in to access parts of the current page and other pages. By the way, if you have a link to a Facebook video, it is sometimes possible to use Pontes Media Downloader to turn it into an audio file. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

What internet brouser works best with Facebook and Jaws? I’m in three courses that have both videos I need to listen to and respond to, live videos I need to be at, and past videos I need to listen to. Does anyone know how to find these types of videos, live ones and posted ones? There are videos in the groups but I can’t find the video button. I’m using the m.facebook.com site, not the main one. Would I be better off looking for videos on the main site?

Sharon

 

Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

Dean Martineau
 

Some of this I can’t help you with, but here are a couple thoughts. The q qhick key takes you straight to the main region, where the principle item on the current page is to be found.  It’s a great time saver.  Also, for finding videos, I would use the b navigation key to see if there any play or pause buttons, and perhaps the c key to find combo boxes which might be used for duration. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

The problem is that I can’t find the videos. Some seem to be under discussion. Some seem to be other places, and some I just can’t find. How do you know what section you are in when you first click on the group? I see everything in the menu with the exception of videos. Is the word video in the menu, or am I just not seeing it?

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

I would use the main site. There are menus built in to access parts of the current page and other pages. By the way, if you have a link to a Facebook video, it is sometimes possible to use Pontes Media Downloader to turn it into an audio file. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Facebook groups, Jaws, internet brousers etc.

 

What internet brouser works best with Facebook and Jaws? I’m in three courses that have both videos I need to listen to and respond to, live videos I need to be at, and past videos I need to listen to. Does anyone know how to find these types of videos, live ones and posted ones? There are videos in the groups but I can’t find the video button. I’m using the m.facebook.com site, not the main one. Would I be better off looking for videos on the main site?

Sharon