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Re: JAWS and Chrome

 

Just curious, but why would you still use Windows 8.1 when Windows 10 is so much better?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 10:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Chrome

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: JAWS and Chrome

 

I couldn't get far with either IE or Chrome on that website which leads me to believe that whoever designed it is not exactly following web accessibility standards.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Chrome

Yep, deffinitely looks different on chrome versus firefox.  It would be good to know if this is a jaws problem or a chrome problem.


When I check it out with chrome and nvda, I see empty clickables under
the university track heading, those aren't shown with jaws. Either way,
you would have difficulty.  I, personally, like the menu structure
better in firefox, I'll use chrome and its ad-blocking little brother
Brave on occasion, but I still do a lot in firefox just because it is
easier to get to my bookmarks.



On 2/22/2019 19:43, Robbie Curtis wrote:
The website is my.freelanceu.com.
---- Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
How do you know there are links that jaws isn't seeing? Do you have a web site where this behavior is occurring?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx

On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Re: Space marker.

Bill White
 

Hi, Michael. Here are three ways to stop announcement of space markers and paragraph markers.

 

To Stop Announcement of Paragraphs And Space markers

 

 

press ALT, then F for the file ribbon, then T for options dialog.

Type D or arrow to select the Display category and press TAB until you get to the "Show these formatting marks" on the screen section.

Make sure the following are unchecked (press the spacebar to check or uncheck and continue to TAB to the next setting):

 

Tab characters check box

Spaces check box

Paragraph marks check box

Show all formatting marks check box

 

the last one, the all checkbox, is important to uncheck.

keep pressing TAB to and SPACEBAR on the OK button.

 

 

Two Alternate Ways To Stop Announcement of Paragraph And Space Markers

 

 

1. Press CONTROL SHIFT 8 (on the numbers row.

 

 

Second Way:

 

Press ALT plus H, followed by 8 (on the numbers row)

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Space marker.

 

hi all, today in school i experienced this problem with my school use computer. 

I opened the new document that were sent by my Science and Geography teacher at different times. When I opened both documents I get this message. Every time I press down arrow Jaws told me there is a space marker. and my Braille display  showed the Symbol of dot 4 and Dot1-6 sign. Can someone please figure out what is this and how to trouble shoot? All comments are greatly appreciate it. 

best regards 

michael Munn 

 

Michael Munn

Member: Virginia Association of Blind students

 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org

Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students

National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org

Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

 


Re: Space marker.

lauren
 

 There’s no other text? It just says space marker and you see those docs on your braille display? What was happening before this started? Also, what version of jaws are you running? And what version of Windows?  That was supposed to be dots. 

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 9:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Space marker.
 
hi all, today in school i experienced this problem with my school use computer. 
I opened the new document that were sent by my Science and Geography teacher at different times. When I opened both documents I get this message. Every time I press down arrow Jaws told me there is a space marker. and my Braille display  showed the Symbol of dot 4 and Dot1-6 sign. Can someone please figure out what is this and how to trouble shoot? All comments are greatly appreciate it. 
best regards 
michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind



Space marker.

Michael Munn
 

hi all, today in school i experienced this problem with my school use computer. 
I opened the new document that were sent by my Science and Geography teacher at different times. When I opened both documents I get this message. Every time I press down arrow Jaws told me there is a space marker. and my Braille display  showed the Symbol of dot 4 and Dot1-6 sign. Can someone please figure out what is this and how to trouble shoot? All comments are greatly appreciate it. 
best regards 
michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind



Re: JAWS and Chrome

Chris Hill
 

Yep, deffinitely looks different on chrome versus firefox.  It would be good to know if this is a jaws problem or a chrome problem.


When I check it out with chrome and nvda, I see empty clickables under the university track heading, those aren't shown with jaws. Either way, you would have difficulty.  I, personally, like the menu structure better in firefox, I'll use chrome and its ad-blocking little brother Brave on occasion, but I still do a lot in firefox just because it is easier to get to my bookmarks.

On 2/22/2019 19:43, Robbie Curtis wrote:
The website is my.freelanceu.com.
---- Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
How do you know there are links that jaws isn't seeing? Do you have a web site where this behavior is occurring?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx

On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Re: JAWS and Chrome

Robbie Curtis
 

The website is my.freelanceu.com.
---- Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:

How do you know there are links that jaws isn't seeing? Do you have a web site where this behavior is occurring?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx

On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Re: JAWS and Chrome

Robbie Curtis
 

I have used Internet Explorer and Firefox on a couple of sites I visit. Both of these browsers show links that Chrome does not. One of these sites is www.myfreelanceu.com which is a site that I am taking courses on.

Firefox and IE show the University Tracks, Live Training and Tutorials and Resources links and headings but I don't see these links with Chrome.
---- Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:

How do you know there are links that jaws isn't seeing? Do you have a web site where this behavior is occurring?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx

On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Creating a google doc in Chrome?

Maria Reyes
 

Hi!

I am using Jaws 2018 on a Win10 laptop. I am trying to create a Google doc with Chrome. I can get as far as hitting the create new document button, and when I press enter, I get a template dialogue, Jaws says blank so I hit enter, but the document doesn’t come up, or at least Jaws doesn’t indicate that the doc has been created.

Is it possible to do this without a pair of working eyeballs?


Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

CJ &AA MAY
 

Control 1 enables single line spacing and control 2 double line spacing but when arrowing own, this isnt apparent. Jaws f i think should tell you though. 

by Alison may
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On 22 Feb 2019, at 9:59 pm, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

Tom, A while back you sent out the email below stating control 2 will change single line spacing to double line. I just did it in word 2016 and it didn’t work. Do I need to do something else to get this to work? Thanks, Kevin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

 

Yes. Ctrl+2 should do. the trick.

Tom


On Aug 16, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

Hello, Is there a key stroke to change line spacing? I need to go from single to double.

 

Kevin Meyers – motivational speaker

http://www.kevinsmeyers.com

6100 West Stonehedge Drive

Suite 148C

Greenfield, WI 53220

312-625-7710

 


Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Kevin,
 
Try the following:
1. Press, Control + A, to select the entire  document. 
2. Now press, Control + 2, for double line spacing.
If you press, Control + 5, your  spacing will be a line and a half.
Pressing, Control + 1, will put your spacing back to single  line.
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

Tom, A while back you sent out the email below stating control 2 will change single line spacing to double line. I just did it in word 2016 and it didn’t work. Do I need to do something else to get this to work? Thanks, Kevin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

 

Yes. Ctrl+2 should do. the trick.

Tom


On Aug 16, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

Hello, Is there a key stroke to change line spacing? I need to go from single to double.

 

Kevin Meyers – motivational speaker

http://www.kevinsmeyers.com

6100 West Stonehedge Drive

Suite 148C

Greenfield, WI 53220

312-625-7710

 


Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Tom, A while back you sent out the email below stating control 2 will change single line spacing to double line. I just did it in word 2016 and it didn’t work. Do I need to do something else to get this to work? Thanks, Kevin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

 

Yes. Ctrl+2 should do. the trick.

Tom


On Aug 16, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

Hello, Is there a key stroke to change line spacing? I need to go from single to double.

 

Kevin Meyers – motivational speaker

http://www.kevinsmeyers.com

6100 West Stonehedge Drive

Suite 148C

Greenfield, WI 53220

312-625-7710

 


Re: JAWS and Chrome

Kimber Gardner
 

How do you know there are links that jaws isn't seeing?  Do you have a web site where this behavior is occurring?  

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx


On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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JAWS and Chrome

Robbie Curtis
 

Good Afternoon All,


I am having an issue with JAWS not seeing all the links in Chrome. Has anyone else had this issue or know which settings in JAWS I need to enable? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 8.1.


Thanks in advance.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


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Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

Actually, if I am a fan boy of anything, it’s Window-Eyes, but that now no longer works well with latest versions of Windows 10.

 

Window-Eyes had features that JAWS still doesn’t dream of, but that’s another story.

 

But having used screen readers for years and years, right from the Vocal-Eyes days for DOS, I can tell you that VoiceOver lacks a whole load of real screen reading functionality.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 21 February 2019 18:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

 

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 12:25 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:

As I said, the screen reader [VoiceOver], is also inferior to JAWS

All I can say, Steve, is that you are among the JAWS fanboys.  I am not.

After more than a decade of dealing with JAWS I know it has its pluses and minuses and works better in some settings and not so well in others.

I tell all my students that I tutor in JAWS that they would be well advised to learn another screen reader, at least for basic tasks, in addition to JAWS [and, I hasten to add, were I tutoring NVDA or Narrator would say the same].  I haven't seen a single one of them not get stuck somewhere that, for whatever reason, an alternative doesn't.

For me, while JAWS is the granddaddy of them all, it is not and never has been the ne plus ultra of screen readers.  At least not for a number of years now.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Free communication equipment for deaf/blind persons

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Listerrs,

 

There is a federal program that distributes equipment for persons who have been diagnosed with both sight and hearing impairments. The they distribute equipment solely based on communication. If you are eligible for the program, the equipment can range from IPhones to computers equipped with JAWS to Braille Machines and everything in between. The website is:

ICanConnect.org

 

I, myself, have benefitted greatly from the program.


Re: Turn of virtual cursor for specific websites

netbat66
 

not for individual sites on a perminent base. and this option is very flakey.
it will turn back on or off when i go to another web page. i don't know if this is the way jaws is suppose to work.
anyway try pressing jaws z twice fast and it will announce the virtual cursor status.

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Sariyannis
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turn of virtual cursor for specific websites

Hi All,
is it possible to turn of the virtual cursor for websites like Twitter
in JAWS 2019?
I'd like to avoid pressing JAWS+Y all the time.

Thanks and best regards
Denis

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Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

 

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 12:25 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
As I said, the screen reader [VoiceOver], is also inferior to JAWS
All I can say, Steve, is that you are among the JAWS fanboys.  I am not.

After more than a decade of dealing with JAWS I know it has its pluses and minuses and works better in some settings and not so well in others.

I tell all my students that I tutor in JAWS that they would be well advised to learn another screen reader, at least for basic tasks, in addition to JAWS [and, I hasten to add, were I tutoring NVDA or Narrator would say the same].  I haven't seen a single one of them not get stuck somewhere that, for whatever reason, an alternative doesn't.

For me, while JAWS is the granddaddy of them all, it is not and never has been the ne plus ultra of screen readers.  At least not for a number of years now.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

As I said, the screen reader, is also inferior to JAWS, much like using Narrator to be honest, not a lot of configuration under the hood, unless you get into Apple scripting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 21 February 2019 15:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

 

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 05:43 PM, Dave... wrote:

So if I need to purchase new hardware, I'm inclined first to dive into the Mac and OS first

I would very, very, very strongly advise against this.  I have yet to work with anyone, blind or sighted, that is a long term user of Windows for whom the transition to MacOS is not hellish and, I hasten to add, vice versa.

Regardless of which direction of change one is anticipating, it is well worth the effort to find a friend, or a library, or somewhere you can sit down for at least a couple of hours and take a test drive of the OS you're contemplating jumping to.   It can save a lot of heartache (and, in the case of Apple products, a lot of money).

Although I have, can, and do work with OSX/MacOS, it frustrates me to no end as a long term Windows user.  A number of their choices with regard to the UI are completely counterintuitive to me and I stumble with them even though I know they're there.  The same is true in reverse for Mac users trying to deal with a Windows PC.  This is ignored at any individual's own peril. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: What is this "new notification" message I cannot access?

 

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 05:43 PM, Dave... wrote:
So if I need to purchase new hardware, I'm inclined first to dive into the Mac and OS first
I would very, very, very strongly advise against this.  I have yet to work with anyone, blind or sighted, that is a long term user of Windows for whom the transition to MacOS is not hellish and, I hasten to add, vice versa.

Regardless of which direction of change one is anticipating, it is well worth the effort to find a friend, or a library, or somewhere you can sit down for at least a couple of hours and take a test drive of the OS you're contemplating jumping to.   It can save a lot of heartache (and, in the case of Apple products, a lot of money).

Although I have, can, and do work with OSX/MacOS, it frustrates me to no end as a long term Windows user.  A number of their choices with regard to the UI are completely counterintuitive to me and I stumble with them even though I know they're there.  The same is true in reverse for Mac users trying to deal with a Windows PC.  This is ignored at any individual's own peril. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore