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moderated Re: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

 

I have used Amazon.com (or, more recently, smile.amazon.com if one wishes to have some tiny portion of one's purchase dollars go to the charity of one's choosing) as a site when I'm training folks to use JAWS for a very long time now.

It was, at least through last fall, very accessible, and if memory serves once one does a product search the individual products returned are all structured as headings, so it's easy to use the headings list feature of JAWS to cruise through those quickly and easily (or use the quick navigation key for headings).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

netbat66
 

its jaws accessible. but as of 2 days ago i couldn't place an order.
when i tried to check out i had to log back on, solve a captcha, and give them a cellphone number, which i didn't want to do , before the order would go through. no thanks.
i had to use the amazon fire stick to place the order. the order went through this way.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Green
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws



Hi Laura,

It's certainly possible to purchase items without sighted help. I've had an account for over 15 years though so don't know if the sign up process is accessible or not these days, I imagine it is though.

Cheers,

Ed


On 14 Jul 2019, at 15:38, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello,



Using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.



Using Jaws, is it possible to setup an account and purchase items on Amazon without sighted help? I’ve never setup an account on any web site so I’m not sure what to expect.



Thank you for any tips and advice in advance.



Laura


moderated Re: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

David & his pack of dogs
 

I’ve had an Amazon account for almost a year now and for the most part have had no, to little problems.  I did get a blind person to help me set it up, mainly because he’d had an account for years. Now, they do have a help desk in Canada and the U AS that will help you with any problems. One I had was getting a prime membership.  Amazon.com did not recognize my amazon.ca account.  The number for help from amazon is on their website. My only advice is call them during the day as they have a lot of people working out of their home.  Thus, when I called at 10 PM PST, I got a woman with the TV and her kids in the background that could be clearly heard running around. Which brings up another matter, if working out of your home have no background noise as it could discredit your product. Even at some work places, it sounded like there was a party going on.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 14, 2019 7:38 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

 

Hello,

 

Using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Using Jaws, is it possible to setup an account and purchase items on Amazon without sighted help?  I’ve never setup an account on any web site so I’m not sure what to expect.

 

Thank you for any tips and advice in advance.

 

Laura

 

 

 


moderated Re: Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

Edward Green
 

Hi Laura,

It's certainly possible to purchase items without sighted help. I've had an account for over 15 years though so don't know if the sign up process is accessible or not these days, I imagine it is though.

Cheers,

Ed 


On 14 Jul 2019, at 15:38, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Using Jaws, is it possible to setup an account and purchase items on Amazon without sighted help?  I’ve never setup an account on any web site so I’m not sure what to expect.

 

Thank you for any tips and advice in advance.

 

Laura

 

 

 


moderated Question/New user to Amazon with Jaws

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

Using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Using Jaws, is it possible to setup an account and purchase items on Amazon without sighted help?  I’ve never setup an account on any web site so I’m not sure what to expect.

 

Thank you for any tips and advice in advance.

 

Laura

 

 

 


moderated Re: Problems with edit boxes in latest Chrome

Jay <jcoffin@...>
 

Hi ann.

Unfortunately, the latest version of jaws has some issues with chrome. I reported this to Vispero, and they said until a fix is available to use Firefox or Internet explorer until a fix is in place. If you're having issues like this, it's probably best to use either Firefox or Internet explorer for the time being, and I would also recommend sending an e-mail to support@vispero.com to report this issue.

Thanks.

Jay.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:12 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Problems with edit boxes in latest Chrome

Hi,


I am running the latest Chrome browser with the latest version of Jaws on the latest version of Windows 10. I find that when I go in to an edit box, I cannot arrow around to review what I've written. This action often takes me out of the field and to the next or previous parts of the web page, depending on which arrows I press. It just started doing this recently.


this does not happen with Firefox or IE11 or even Edge.


Is there a work around for this? Changing forms options in Jaws seems to have no effect.


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Problems with edit boxes in latest Chrome

Chris Hill
 

Well, I just tried this wiht Version 75.0.3770.100 (Official Build) (64-bit)

and don't seem to be having any problem, at least on the edit box  in the national weather service forecast page I tried.

On 7/14/2019 08:12, ann wrote:
Hi,


I am running the latest Chrome browser with the latest version of Jaws on the latest version of Windows 10. I find that when I go in to an edit box, I cannot arrow around to review what I've written. This action often takes me out of the field and to the next or previous parts of the web page, depending on which arrows I press. It just started doing this recently.


this does not happen with Firefox or IE11 or even Edge.


Is there a work around for this? Changing forms options in Jaws seems to have no effect.


Thanks,

~Ann



moderated Re: Has anyone had success using jaws with the latest version of c cleaner whether standard or professional?

Mike B
 


Hi David,
 
Try the following:
Below are some steps I typed up for navigating the newer versions of CCleaner with JAWS.  Since CCleaner and JAWS works fine with the, Windows tab, scan
then the navigation starts getting weird, the steps below start after scanning the Windows tab.
Note:  These may not be exact but, are very close and should get you by.
1. After you run a scan of the Windows tab, you can use your finger gymnastics in 2 ways to scan the Applications tab.
A. After the Windows tab scan is finished tab until you come to the Windows tab again, now switch to the, Touch cursor, Shift + Numpad Plus, now right
arrow and then left arrow to highlight the Apllication tab and press enter to select it.  Turn off the Touch cursor by tapping the Numpad Plus key twice
quickly.  Press, Alt + R, to start the scan.
B. After the Windows tab scan is finished switch to the Touch cursor, left arrow several times to the Applications tab and press enter to select.  Now,
turn the Touch cursor off and press, Alt + R, to scan.
Note: The Touch  cursor is mostly used to navigate after the Windows tab scan.
2. If you are scanning the Registry, after the Applications scan is completed press, Alt + G, to start the scan of the registry.
3. After the registry scan is completed, Shift + Tab to the list of found items, pay attention to how many items were found, you can arrow up & down this
list to uncheck any items you don't want removed or press, Control + A, to select all, tab to the delete selected items, or whatever it's called, and press
enter to start the cleaning.  You will get a dialogue asking if you wannt to save a copy of the registry before the cleaning so press, Alt + Y, to save,
press the spacebar on the confirmation dialogue now the registry cleaning process starts and it only takes a second or so.  After the cleaning is finished
now, if you route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor you can arrow up 1 time to hear how many items wer found and how many were cleaned.  For example, if
20 items were found but, you unchecked 5 of them you should hear, 15 / 20, meaning 15 of the 20 items were cleaned.  If you slected them all you should
hear, 20 / 20, meaning 20 of 20 items were cleaned.
Note: The copy of the saved registry file should be in your Documents folder.  This is a copy of the registry before it's cleaned so, if there's a problem
after the cleaning you can restore your registry with this saved file.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:04 AM
Subject: Has anyone had success using jaws with the latest version of c cleaner whether standard or professional?

I'm writing to see if anyonehas had success using jaws versions 16 to 2019 with ccleaner and what were the results.  I'm currently trying to use c cleaner with jaws version 16 but the problem is nothing seems to happen when I press enter on any of the buttons.  I'd also like to label these buttons.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should proceed.  The version of jaws i'm using is 16.



moderated Problems with edit boxes in latest Chrome

ann
 

Hi,


I am running the latest Chrome browser with the latest version of Jaws on the latest version of Windows 10. I find that when I go in to an edit box, I cannot arrow around to review what I've written. This action often takes me out of the field and to the next or previous parts of the web page, depending on which arrows I press. It just started doing this recently.


this does not happen with Firefox or IE11 or even Edge.


Is there a work around for this? Changing forms options in Jaws seems to have no effect.


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Has anyone had success using jaws with the latest version of c cleaner whether standard or professional?

dennis
 

also make sure cleaner is maxamized.

On 7/14/2019 7:04 AM, David Ingram wrote:
I'm writing to see if anyonehas had success using jaws versions 16 to 2019 with ccleaner and what were the results.  I'm currently trying to use c cleaner with jaws version 16 but the problem is nothing seems to happen when I press enter on any of the buttons.  I'd also like to label these buttons.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should proceed.  The version of jaws i'm using is 16. 




--
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Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Has anyone had success using jaws with the latest version of c cleaner whether standard or professional?

dennis
 

using jaws 16 and the latest version of cleaner. if you wan't to use it like the old versions, after you press enter to open cleaner, tab once and that is the custom button. hit the spacebar on that. that will open cleaner in the old looking form. using jaws 2019 opperates the same way.hope this helps.

On 7/14/2019 7:04 AM, David Ingram wrote:
I'm writing to see if anyonehas had success using jaws versions 16 to 2019 with ccleaner and what were the results.  I'm currently trying to use c cleaner with jaws version 16 but the problem is nothing seems to happen when I press enter on any of the buttons.  I'd also like to label these buttons.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should proceed.  The version of jaws i'm using is 16. 




--
Dennis Cornelison

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Has anyone had success using jaws with the latest version of c cleaner whether standard or professional?

David Ingram
 

I'm writing to see if anyonehas had success using jaws versions 16 to 2019 with ccleaner and what were the results. I'm currently trying to use c cleaner with jaws version 16 but the problem is nothing seems to happen when I press enter on any of the buttons. I'd also like to label these buttons. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should proceed. The version of jaws i'm using is 16.


moderated Re: Activating Focus 40 with JAWS

Les Kriegler
 

Hi Ann,

The same thing happened to me recently. Before you can set up the Focus in
Jaws, you have to go into Bluetooth settings in Windows and add the display
there. You'll put in code 0000 and once it's detected in Windows, then you
can set it up in Jaws. If it's there now, I'd remove the Focus from Jaws
and then pair in Windows first.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Activating Focus 40 with JAWS

JAWS 2019 latest, and JAWS 2018 latest
Windows 10, 1903

I have added the focus display under utilities. When I go to
basics/options/braille JAWS tells me the default display is focus, and the
active display is "no display". I can change active display to Focus while
in the dialog, but when I press ok the active display once again becomes "no
display". Obviously I am missing something. Rescue would be appreciated.

thanks,

Ann


moderated Activating Focus 40 with JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

JAWS 2019 latest, and JAWS 2018 latest
Windows 10, 1903

I have added the focus display under utilities. When I go to basics/options/braille JAWS tells me the default display is focus, and the active display is "no display". I can change active display to Focus while in the dialog, but when I press ok the active display once again becomes "no display". Obviously I am missing something. Rescue would be appreciated.

thanks,

Ann


moderated Re: Stream clicking keys

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Thanks for the reply. Worked like a charm.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Stream clicking keys

enter the menu, from navigation and playback, press #8 until key beeps
is reached and press 4 or 6 to choose off, then press the confirm
(pound/hash) key.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom [mailto:tomcat509@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, July 13, 2019, 3:05 AM
Subject: Stream clicking keys

Hi,
Using: Stream 2nd generation

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the clicking sound when a key
is pressed on the Stream? If so, how, please.

I have been through the menus a couple of times but can't locate any mention
of this feature.

Pressing the keys during the day doesn't cause a problem but at night or
very early morning the clicking does not improve matrimonial harmony
unfortunately.


Thanks

Tom


moderated Microsoft OneNote

Boston, Jason W
 

Hello all,

 

I'm exploring the possibility of using One Note to archive emails and the like. My employer is moving away from PST archive files and I need a quick accessible method of storing emails outside of Outlook.

 

Anyone used One Notes before and have any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

 

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moderated Re: Find & Replace Query

 

The bracket is often referred to as the square bracket, and your memory is correct, it looks like the trimmed off end of a square or rectangle.

The brace is often referred to as the curly brace (sometimes the curly bracket).    The closest I can come to an even semi-accurate description is that it has a rounded shape at the upper and lower end, much like a parenthesis, but there is a small point pulled out at the halfway point of its height.  There is a bit of recurve coming out of that point, so the whole thing is not fully "on the round" like a parenthesis is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Stream clicking keys

Mario
 

enter the menu, from navigation and playback, press #8 until key beeps
is reached and press 4 or 6 to choose off, then press the confirm
(pound/hash) key.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom [mailto:tomcat509@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, July 13, 2019, 3:05 AM
Subject: Stream clicking keys

Hi,
Using: Stream 2nd generation

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the clicking sound when a key
is pressed on the Stream? If so, how, please.

I have been through the menus a couple of times but can't locate any mention
of this feature.

Pressing the keys during the day doesn't cause a problem but at night or
very early morning the clicking does not improve matrimonial harmony
unfortunately.


Thanks

Tom


moderated Stream clicking keys

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,

Using: Stream 2nd generation

 

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the clicking sound when a key is pressed on the Stream?  If so, how, please.

 

I have been through the menus a couple of times but can’t locate any mention of this feature.

 

Pressing the keys during the day  doesn’t cause a problem but at night or very early morning the clicking does not improve matrimonial  harmony unfortunately.

 

 

Thanks

 

Tom


moderated Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Well, as a final note I will say that now that I received my Das Keyboard 4 Professional which is a wired mechanical keyboard without the 6 gaming keys on the side I am truly impressed. I think for a non-gamer who simply wants an awesome keyboard for typing/office use it is about as good as it gets. It has a Windows key on each side of the spacebar and a working application key and it has a beautiful volume knob and media keys. Apart from that it’s just a fantastic keyboard with a regular old-style layout, good spacing between the blocks of function keys and all that. It is made from aluminum and while it is wired, it has only 1 USB plug, but there are 2 USB ports on the back of the keyboard which for me is great because I have sighted staff so I can continue to use a wireless mouse and use 1 port to plug in the mini USB receiver so I am not actually using up more ports on the computer. For my main register computer in my store I could even use the second port to plug in the USB barcode scanner.

I chose the version with the Cherry Blue switches which make a very satisfying click and the typing experience is just superb. You can also get it with Cherry Brown switches which are quieter and a bit softer, apparently more like the Romer-G switches Logitech has developed for the G613. When I first got that keyboard and got a bit used to it I thought I really liked it, but I must say the Cherry Blue switches on the 4 Professional are really something and I think this will be my keyboard of choice even though it is quite expensive and it’s wired. The main thing I like about the G613 is the fact that it is wireless and allows me to use it on the PC with the Lightspeed USB dongle and also to connect my iPhone via Bluetooth so that a simply button push switches between the two, but that is more convenience and I may give it up for the typing experience of the Das Keyboard.

The G-keys on the G613 are nice in a way and programming them with a few macros or commands  is OK, but I don’t think I would miss them especially not if I can again get used to having a Windows key on both sides which makes keyboard shortcuts like Windows Key + 1 through 5 or 6 much more convenient since I don’t have to reach all the way across with the right hand to press either the Windows key or one of the number keys on the left.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 4:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

Hi,

More throw? Could you elaborate on what you mean by that? Does that refer to the travel of the keys as some speak of? Is this keyboard also made by Logitech? Does it also make use of a USB receiver type of apparatus and what batteries does it use? Why did you choose to have both of these keyboards? Do you have different use cases for each?

Thanks for expounding.

Robin

 

 

From: Curtis Delzer

Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 4:17 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Logitech G613 Lightspeed wireless mechanical gaming keyboard

 

the g-skill, looks a lot like this g613, with the same six keys down the left side, but 2 advantages; (1) you can program the macros yourself, and (2) there are three configurations you can save, e.g. if you've a set of macros in configuration one, and another in two, you save configuration three for the out-of-the-box configuration so you can have a dependable one you are sure of. I have both keyboards the g-skill 2980 and Logitech G613, and both of the setup utilities are not speech friendly except the reset function of the g-skill. I bought this g-skill from Amazon for about $80.

The way you program the macros yourself without sight is to press macro record, the key you wish to use, and then the sequence you want, and then turn macro record off. The only advantage of the software recording the macro is you can make it lightning fast, instead from direct keyboard recording is that the time and rhythms are also recorded, though it begins typing at the instant you touch, not waiting for a moment which you might have used getting your hands ready to record the macro.

This G-skill has very nice switches in it, with more throw as such than the g613, but, again, as in any keyboard, when you switch to it, you immediately get use to it's throw.

Curtis Delzer 
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
 
curtis@...

On 7/7/2019 5:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi,

 

I thought it would be OK to post a brief review here on the Logitech G613 wireless mechanical gaming keyboard since just as myself I assume others also are always looking for the “perfect” keyboard.

This Logitech G613 “Lightspeed” wireless mechanical gaming keyboard can connect to iOS via Bluetooth and to a PC using the supplied USB receiver which then let’s you take advantage of the “Lightspeed” 1 millisecond delay which is pretty impressive (if you connect to a PC with Bluetooth this does not apply and while it’s probably still just as good as any other Bluetooth keyboard, it sort of makes sense to make the most of this keyboard’s features).

I still use my trusty Logitech K780 at home where I have it connected to my laptop via Bluetooth as well as to my iPhone and Apple TV, but I bought the G613 for my main PC at work and I must say so far it’s getting pretty close to that perfect score.

Unlike most wired mechanical gaming keyboards this does not have all the fancy RGB lighting options which of course is fine for me. The one thing I am not super fond of are the 6 F1 through fF6 function keys in a vertical column down the left side of the keyboard with maybe half an inch of space between them and the left most keys like Control, Shift, Caps Lock, Tab, ` and Escape. But I also bought a wired Logitech mechanical keyboard and it also has them, most mechanical keyboards are designed for gamers rather than people who want a mechanical keyboard for typing. It takes a bit of getting used to not accidently pressing them. gamers can configure these keys as macro keys to perform whatever actions gamers want.

Apart from that the keyboard has a very traditional layout with nice spaces between the blocks of function keys, the inverted cursor T, the 6-pack with Insert/Delete, Page Up/Down and Home/End, of course the number pad and above that it has 4 more slightly lower media keys for Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind and Forward.

At the very top is a slider switch which locks the Windows key which apparently gamers like so they don’t accidently press it and Cortana/the search box pops up, then there are two buttons which switch between the USB Lightspeed connection and the Bluetooth connection and once the Bluetooth connection to the iPhone has been established all it takes is to press the Bluetooth button in order to switch to the phone and the USB button to switch back.

On the very top right is a large key which is a volume rocker, press the left side for down and the right side for up and beside that is a Mute button. Finally on the right side towards the back is a on/off slider switch.

The keyboard runs on 2 AA batteries and is supposed to give you 18 month of battery life.

There is a proper application key on the right side of the spacebar which works, but there is no Windows key on the right side which is something you don’t hardly see any more.

 

Logitech uses their own Romer-G switches and not Cherry MXswitches. The Romer-G are most like Cherry Brown, a nice distance of travel, but not hard to press and relatively quiet for mechanical keys.

They do take a bit of getting used to, but I quite like them. For those who want to read more about them, below is a link to a review from Tom’s Hardware:

 

Logitech’s Romer-G Switches – Are they any good?

 

The other nice thing about this keyboard is it’s relatively reasonable price, I paid $129.99 Canadian for it, believe I read that on a good deal you can pick it up in the US for as low as $70 US.

Wireless mechanical keyboards are not out there too much yet, I did find a couple more made by the company “Das Keyboard” but they are more expensive although I may order them from Amazon to test and if I don’t like them at least as much or better send them back. My other 2 computers at my store where I have a Logitech MK510 keyboard and mouse combo both start to show their wear on the keyboards and I want to see if using mechanical keyboards won’t change the fact that many of the keyboards which are mostly out there these days are typically done after 2 or at most 3 years of heavy use.

As with all mechanical keyboards keep in mind that the Logitech G613 is heavy compared to other non-mechanical wireless keyboards.

And one last thing which is nice, this keyboard has function keys which work as function keys out of the box and as much as I also like my K780, it’s a bit of a pain to have to install the not very accessible Logitech Options software just so you can change the function keys to behave like function keys instead of media keys.

 

 

Happy typing,

Sieghard

 

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