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moderated Re: Testing.

James English
 

Well...we got it.

On 5/26/20, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
A user has reported difficulties posting to email. This is me attempting to
reproduce that issue. If the issue is wide-spread, no one on-list should
see
this. If I'm wrong, feel free to delete this.



James,

List Admin





moderated Testing.

James Homuth
 

A user has reported difficulties posting to email. This is me attempting to reproduce that issue. If the issue is wide-spread, no one on-list should see this. If I’m wrong, feel free to delete this.

 

James,

List Admin


moderated Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...>
 

I Entirely agree with you.

You will and should always get the best performance from the latest version of jaws.

As a programmer and web site designer, I take what you are saying absolutely.

However, when writing web sites myself, I always have accessibility in mind, regardless of the version of jaws that someone may be using.

Without going into huge details in my original posting, I was making the point, that there was no change in actually using chrome with regards to keyboard cursors etc in general terms.

Of course, there will be changes in things such as double speaking, virtual cursor behaviour etc, as you upgrade to the newer versions of jaws, which there should be.

These things are noticeable by programmers as well as general users.

When I refer to it not being any different, I am simply pointing out, that the actual “use” of it is much the same.

In your below post, for example, you make reference to the virtual cursor now turning itself on and off when necessary. This I have to say, is a welcome improvement. However, it would not have a significant impact when using google chrome with earlier versions of jaws. The only difference here, with regard to this actual function, is that you would have to keep using ctrl+z every time you want to change it.

It does not have an effect on jaws and chrome being used together, other than saving the user a couple of key strokes.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 16:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

True, there are users with machines which belong to their employer who can’t reinstall Windows easily or as in your case where you may not want to do so because of your agreement with Del. When I first bought this Asus Zenbook I actually didn’t reinstall Windows 10 either although I upgraded it from the Home version it came with to the Pro version I use at my business, but it ran quite well so I left it alone.

If I reinstall Windows I first delete all partitions, then repartition the drive, reformat it and then reinstall and while I don’t do this unless absolutely necessary it is a last resort which often will help.

As for changes in Jaws 2020 and Chrome-based browsers or the internet in general, they do exist even though you may not notice them or use them. The internet and the way web designers code web pages changes all the time and in order to keep up with these changes it is my opinion that you will get the best experience with the latest version of Jaws and this of course also applies to applications like the Office programs, Zoom which many of us use these days and so on. In the case of Zoom the latest version of Jaws 2020 includes scripts which you wouldn’t have in Jaws 2019 let alone earlier versions. Below are some examples of changes with respect to the internet:

 

Reduced Double Speaking of Form Control Prompts

When navigating and filling out forms on the web, it has become increasingly common for web page authors to include the prompt inside the control in addition to assigning an accessible Tag for the control. While non-screen reader users only see the written prompt, those using a screen reader are getting both the Prompt and accessible Tag in Speech as well as Braille if a display is in use. Often times, the web page author has assigned the same text for each, so it appears the screen reader is double speaking. In JAWS 2020, we have greatly reduced the amount of double speaking of form controls as you navigate using speech and Braille by comparing the prompt and these tags, and only speaking or brailling them both if they are different.

 

Virtual Cursor Toggle Now Tab Specific in Google Chrome

Today, there are many web apps where using the Virtual Cursor is not the best approach. An example of this can be seen if you use Gmail in the Chrome Browser. In these cases, it makes sense to toggle the Virtual Cursor off by pressing INSERT+Z and then use this application with the PC cursor. Many users also regularly open multiple tabs (CTRL+T) so they can easily access different sites such as GMail plus one or two other pages by moving between the open tabs using CTRL+TAB. This can become frustrating as you need to constantly press INSERT+Z to get the right cursor in use as you switch between tabs.

Beginning with version 2020, we are introducing an option to help JAWS automatically remember the state of the Virtual Cursor for each tab once you set it. It will also announce whether the Virtual Cursor is on or off as you move between various tabs. Once you close the browser, or restart JAWS, it will default back to its default behavior so you will need to set this each day as you use it.

 

General Changes in Response to Customer Requests

By default, JAWS and Fusion now skip over blank lines while navigating using the Virtual Cursor. This improves reading when navigating web pages, PDF documents, Help Files, and the JAWS Results Viewer without announcing all the blank lines. If you want to hear blank lines as you navigate text, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) and clear the "Skip Blank Lines While Navigating" check box.

Added a new Quick Settings (INSERT+V) option called "Announce Count of Links, Headings, etc. when page loads," which is on by default. Turning this setting off causes JAWS and Fusion not to announce the number of these elements when a web page loads.

While browsing the internet, JAWS will no longer announce "Clickable" by default as you move to various content.

You should no longer hear the message "Press JAWS Key+ALT+R to hear descriptive text" as you navigate form controls and certain other elements on the web.

Removed extraneous "Insert F1 Help" announcements that were heard when navigating through various controls on the web.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Sieghard,

 

Sorry, I meant to say 2018.

With regard to my issues, I mentioned nothing in relation to my recent problems in my last posting.

I simply pointed out, that in my experience, I found no difference between jaws 2020 or 2018 when it came to functionality with google chrome.

In my opinion this is not unusual as jaws for the most part, acts the same way with applications, unless there has been a specific change to jaws to fix/enhance something which didn’t work in the last version.

As I said there is a difference when it comes to microsoft’s chrome edge. This is to be expected, as jaws 2020 has addressed the problem with the “jaws find” function in chrome edge.

I understand your points below, but we all don’t have the ability to reinstall windows whenever it is needed.

Personally, I have a del laptop under warranty. If I want windows installed, they are the ones to do it.

This is necessary, in order to keep up my four year service agreement with them.

As you know, all of these installations come with loads of things that you don’t want.

By the time you have uninstalled all the “trial” versions of everything, you have a version of windows that could have been damaged anyway since its installation.

Having installed windows from scratch yourself, you will be aware, that uninstalling things can leave a footprint behind. Quite often, there are empty directories, and entries in the registery which were not deleted.

In my 25 years as a software developer, I have seen this numerous times.

The only way to be absolutely sure that you have a proper version of windows, is to actually install it yourself without any of the “optional” features.

Again, in order to be sure, there should be absolutely nothing on the drive when you start, or you could be installing over files that are already there. This is something else that Microsoft will do from time to time, in that if something exists, it will leave it alone and install around it.

Then, of course, there is the windows home and professional additions, which in themselves, have different functionality, group security policies being one of them.

 

patrick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 15:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Patrick, are you using Jaws 18 or Jaws 2018, they are not the same, Jaws 2018 is a year newer than Jaws 18 and as far as I know there are more and more problematic areas with Jaws 18 and the latest version of Windows which is about to get rolled out. Also keep in mind that your issues are not everybody’s issues and probably not even problems a lot of people experience. I understand how frustrating it is when you run into problems nobody else or almost nobody else seems to have, but these situations do exist where a combination of your hardware and how everything is configured causes strange issues which are hard to fix and even harder to reproduce. In such a case and when all else fails a clean reinstallation of Wibndows may be the only way forward although I am not somebody who suggests this solution lightly. I currently experience strange slow-downs on my laptop at home, granted it’s over 3 years old, but it’s also a high-end machine with a six generation I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD. I find Outlook, Edge and Google Chrome as well as certain File Explorer tasks to be quite slow especially when compared to my work PC. I have been using the upcoming Windows 10 version via the Windows Insider program for a few months now because I am also a Jaws beta tester and feel I should try and use upcoming Windows versions so I can test new features and provide feedback accordingly, but as soon as the 2004 version is officially out and I can get the Media Creation Tool for it, I plan to wipe this laptop clean and reinstall Windows from scratch, then Jaws 2020, Office and any other applications I use and I know this will improve things since I have done it with other PC’s many times.

If somebody is 3 or 4 years behind with Jaws it will always be my recommendation to upgrade especially since sooner rather than later it is probably necessary. Yes, I know there are people out there who still use computers which are 8 or 10 years old with the now unsupported Windows 7 with Jaws 16 or 17 and programs like Outlook Express which have also been discontinued and are in my opinion super unsecure to use, but this is not my philosophy.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Hi Hank,

 

I am still using jaws 18 with windows 10 latest release. I did install a trial version of jaws 2020, but there was no difference.

There was a difference however, between jaws 2018 and 2020 when using the Microsoft edge version of chrome.

If you like google chrome, and your jaws 2018, try a browser called brave.

It is chrome based, but has a much lighter footprint on your computer and will work with windows 7 and 10.

 

pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 06:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

I didn’t see any other replies, but for many of us Jaws 18 was so long ago, I for one don’t remember how it was different.

I assume you are still on Windows 7? Upgrading to the latest version of Jaws is also going to be more and more necessary if you want to run the latest release of Windows 10 which is coming up in the next few weeks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

 

Hello,

 

I am currently using jaws18, before I go and buy jaws2020, can someone maybe please give me just a couple of examples of how google Chrome works alot better with Jaws2020 versus the older version Jaws18?

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:50 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
It's too bad there seems to be no easy way to merge the list of favorites imported from IE with the list of bookmarks created in Chrome itself to create a single list that could be navigated by first letter navigation. 
If you are able to copy and paste in Windows Explorer, then you already know the basic process that is used in Bookmarks Manager to do exactly what you're seeking.

The one really weird thing I've found is that you cannot Paste into a folder when you have focus on it, nor can you paste in to an empty folder.  You must have focus on an existing bookmark in order for paste to show up after a cut or copy.  So, if you do want to move things into folders via cut/copy, and paste, you not only have to create the folder, but then create a single "junk bookmark" you can gain focus on before trying to paste, then deleting it afterward.  This seems to be the case in all Chromium-based web browsers (though I didn't try new Edge - and since MS has kept the Favorites idiom they may also have slightly different behavior - I don't know).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition

Ann Byrne
 

There is an FS webinar on teams that should give you that information, as well as lots more.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition

Any idea where to find this link?
I have a presentation that i need to be on in a few weeks, and it uses microsoft teams.
If anyone can help with feedback on the program, that would be great.

Cheers,

Jed

On 5/23/20, Don & Cher <oneagleswings1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Martin and Milton- Thanks for the timely and very helpful responses-
just what I needed 😊



Cher







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Hi,



If you are looking for further assistance in using MS Team, Freedom
Scientific/Vispero training department did a webinar on MS team
earlier this year and the audio recording is available for download
along with some documentation that goes along with the webinar.



You will also find more information about MS Team on the Microsoft
Accessibility page.



Milton





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Do you have to have a pro license to use Microsoft Teams? Thanks much.



Cher









moderated Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

True, there are users with machines which belong to their employer who can’t reinstall Windows easily or as in your case where you may not want to do so because of your agreement with Del. When I first bought this Asus Zenbook I actually didn’t reinstall Windows 10 either although I upgraded it from the Home version it came with to the Pro version I use at my business, but it ran quite well so I left it alone.

If I reinstall Windows I first delete all partitions, then repartition the drive, reformat it and then reinstall and while I don’t do this unless absolutely necessary it is a last resort which often will help.

As for changes in Jaws 2020 and Chrome-based browsers or the internet in general, they do exist even though you may not notice them or use them. The internet and the way web designers code web pages changes all the time and in order to keep up with these changes it is my opinion that you will get the best experience with the latest version of Jaws and this of course also applies to applications like the Office programs, Zoom which many of us use these days and so on. In the case of Zoom the latest version of Jaws 2020 includes scripts which you wouldn’t have in Jaws 2019 let alone earlier versions. Below are some examples of changes with respect to the internet:

 

Reduced Double Speaking of Form Control Prompts

When navigating and filling out forms on the web, it has become increasingly common for web page authors to include the prompt inside the control in addition to assigning an accessible Tag for the control. While non-screen reader users only see the written prompt, those using a screen reader are getting both the Prompt and accessible Tag in Speech as well as Braille if a display is in use. Often times, the web page author has assigned the same text for each, so it appears the screen reader is double speaking. In JAWS 2020, we have greatly reduced the amount of double speaking of form controls as you navigate using speech and Braille by comparing the prompt and these tags, and only speaking or brailling them both if they are different.

 

Virtual Cursor Toggle Now Tab Specific in Google Chrome

Today, there are many web apps where using the Virtual Cursor is not the best approach. An example of this can be seen if you use Gmail in the Chrome Browser. In these cases, it makes sense to toggle the Virtual Cursor off by pressing INSERT+Z and then use this application with the PC cursor. Many users also regularly open multiple tabs (CTRL+T) so they can easily access different sites such as GMail plus one or two other pages by moving between the open tabs using CTRL+TAB. This can become frustrating as you need to constantly press INSERT+Z to get the right cursor in use as you switch between tabs.

Beginning with version 2020, we are introducing an option to help JAWS automatically remember the state of the Virtual Cursor for each tab once you set it. It will also announce whether the Virtual Cursor is on or off as you move between various tabs. Once you close the browser, or restart JAWS, it will default back to its default behavior so you will need to set this each day as you use it.

 

General Changes in Response to Customer Requests

By default, JAWS and Fusion now skip over blank lines while navigating using the Virtual Cursor. This improves reading when navigating web pages, PDF documents, Help Files, and the JAWS Results Viewer without announcing all the blank lines. If you want to hear blank lines as you navigate text, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) and clear the "Skip Blank Lines While Navigating" check box.

Added a new Quick Settings (INSERT+V) option called "Announce Count of Links, Headings, etc. when page loads," which is on by default. Turning this setting off causes JAWS and Fusion not to announce the number of these elements when a web page loads.

While browsing the internet, JAWS will no longer announce "Clickable" by default as you move to various content.

You should no longer hear the message "Press JAWS Key+ALT+R to hear descriptive text" as you navigate form controls and certain other elements on the web.

Removed extraneous "Insert F1 Help" announcements that were heard when navigating through various controls on the web.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Sieghard,

 

Sorry, I meant to say 2018.

With regard to my issues, I mentioned nothing in relation to my recent problems in my last posting.

I simply pointed out, that in my experience, I found no difference between jaws 2020 or 2018 when it came to functionality with google chrome.

In my opinion this is not unusual as jaws for the most part, acts the same way with applications, unless there has been a specific change to jaws to fix/enhance something which didn’t work in the last version.

As I said there is a difference when it comes to microsoft’s chrome edge. This is to be expected, as jaws 2020 has addressed the problem with the “jaws find” function in chrome edge.

I understand your points below, but we all don’t have the ability to reinstall windows whenever it is needed.

Personally, I have a del laptop under warranty. If I want windows installed, they are the ones to do it.

This is necessary, in order to keep up my four year service agreement with them.

As you know, all of these installations come with loads of things that you don’t want.

By the time you have uninstalled all the “trial” versions of everything, you have a version of windows that could have been damaged anyway since its installation.

Having installed windows from scratch yourself, you will be aware, that uninstalling things can leave a footprint behind. Quite often, there are empty directories, and entries in the registery which were not deleted.

In my 25 years as a software developer, I have seen this numerous times.

The only way to be absolutely sure that you have a proper version of windows, is to actually install it yourself without any of the “optional” features.

Again, in order to be sure, there should be absolutely nothing on the drive when you start, or you could be installing over files that are already there. This is something else that Microsoft will do from time to time, in that if something exists, it will leave it alone and install around it.

Then, of course, there is the windows home and professional additions, which in themselves, have different functionality, group security policies being one of them.

 

patrick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 15:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Patrick, are you using Jaws 18 or Jaws 2018, they are not the same, Jaws 2018 is a year newer than Jaws 18 and as far as I know there are more and more problematic areas with Jaws 18 and the latest version of Windows which is about to get rolled out. Also keep in mind that your issues are not everybody’s issues and probably not even problems a lot of people experience. I understand how frustrating it is when you run into problems nobody else or almost nobody else seems to have, but these situations do exist where a combination of your hardware and how everything is configured causes strange issues which are hard to fix and even harder to reproduce. In such a case and when all else fails a clean reinstallation of Wibndows may be the only way forward although I am not somebody who suggests this solution lightly. I currently experience strange slow-downs on my laptop at home, granted it’s over 3 years old, but it’s also a high-end machine with a six generation I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD. I find Outlook, Edge and Google Chrome as well as certain File Explorer tasks to be quite slow especially when compared to my work PC. I have been using the upcoming Windows 10 version via the Windows Insider program for a few months now because I am also a Jaws beta tester and feel I should try and use upcoming Windows versions so I can test new features and provide feedback accordingly, but as soon as the 2004 version is officially out and I can get the Media Creation Tool for it, I plan to wipe this laptop clean and reinstall Windows from scratch, then Jaws 2020, Office and any other applications I use and I know this will improve things since I have done it with other PC’s many times.

If somebody is 3 or 4 years behind with Jaws it will always be my recommendation to upgrade especially since sooner rather than later it is probably necessary. Yes, I know there are people out there who still use computers which are 8 or 10 years old with the now unsupported Windows 7 with Jaws 16 or 17 and programs like Outlook Express which have also been discontinued and are in my opinion super unsecure to use, but this is not my philosophy.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Hi Hank,

 

I am still using jaws 18 with windows 10 latest release. I did install a trial version of jaws 2020, but there was no difference.

There was a difference however, between jaws 2018 and 2020 when using the Microsoft edge version of chrome.

If you like google chrome, and your jaws 2018, try a browser called brave.

It is chrome based, but has a much lighter footprint on your computer and will work with windows 7 and 10.

 

pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 06:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

I didn’t see any other replies, but for many of us Jaws 18 was so long ago, I for one don’t remember how it was different.

I assume you are still on Windows 7? Upgrading to the latest version of Jaws is also going to be more and more necessary if you want to run the latest release of Windows 10 which is coming up in the next few weeks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

 

Hello,

 

I am currently using jaws18, before I go and buy jaws2020, can someone maybe please give me just a couple of examples of how google Chrome works alot better with Jaws2020 versus the older version Jaws18?

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Tom Behler
 

Ok, I get it now. … Makes sense.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and not to the bookmark list.

 

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...>
 

Sieghard,

 

Sorry, I meant to say 2018.

With regard to my issues, I mentioned nothing in relation to my recent problems in my last posting.

I simply pointed out, that in my experience, I found no difference between jaws 2020 or 2018 when it came to functionality with google chrome.

In my opinion this is not unusual as jaws for the most part, acts the same way with applications, unless there has been a specific change to jaws to fix/enhance something which didn’t work in the last version.

As I said there is a difference when it comes to microsoft’s chrome edge. This is to be expected, as jaws 2020 has addressed the problem with the “jaws find” function in chrome edge.

I understand your points below, but we all don’t have the ability to reinstall windows whenever it is needed.

Personally, I have a del laptop under warranty. If I want windows installed, they are the ones to do it.

This is necessary, in order to keep up my four year service agreement with them.

As you know, all of these installations come with loads of things that you don’t want.

By the time you have uninstalled all the “trial” versions of everything, you have a version of windows that could have been damaged anyway since its installation.

Having installed windows from scratch yourself, you will be aware, that uninstalling things can leave a footprint behind. Quite often, there are empty directories, and entries in the registery which were not deleted.

In my 25 years as a software developer, I have seen this numerous times.

The only way to be absolutely sure that you have a proper version of windows, is to actually install it yourself without any of the “optional” features.

Again, in order to be sure, there should be absolutely nothing on the drive when you start, or you could be installing over files that are already there. This is something else that Microsoft will do from time to time, in that if something exists, it will leave it alone and install around it.

Then, of course, there is the windows home and professional additions, which in themselves, have different functionality, group security policies being one of them.

 

patrick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 15:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Patrick, are you using Jaws 18 or Jaws 2018, they are not the same, Jaws 2018 is a year newer than Jaws 18 and as far as I know there are more and more problematic areas with Jaws 18 and the latest version of Windows which is about to get rolled out. Also keep in mind that your issues are not everybody’s issues and probably not even problems a lot of people experience. I understand how frustrating it is when you run into problems nobody else or almost nobody else seems to have, but these situations do exist where a combination of your hardware and how everything is configured causes strange issues which are hard to fix and even harder to reproduce. In such a case and when all else fails a clean reinstallation of Wibndows may be the only way forward although I am not somebody who suggests this solution lightly. I currently experience strange slow-downs on my laptop at home, granted it’s over 3 years old, but it’s also a high-end machine with a six generation I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD. I find Outlook, Edge and Google Chrome as well as certain File Explorer tasks to be quite slow especially when compared to my work PC. I have been using the upcoming Windows 10 version via the Windows Insider program for a few months now because I am also a Jaws beta tester and feel I should try and use upcoming Windows versions so I can test new features and provide feedback accordingly, but as soon as the 2004 version is officially out and I can get the Media Creation Tool for it, I plan to wipe this laptop clean and reinstall Windows from scratch, then Jaws 2020, Office and any other applications I use and I know this will improve things since I have done it with other PC’s many times.

If somebody is 3 or 4 years behind with Jaws it will always be my recommendation to upgrade especially since sooner rather than later it is probably necessary. Yes, I know there are people out there who still use computers which are 8 or 10 years old with the now unsupported Windows 7 with Jaws 16 or 17 and programs like Outlook Express which have also been discontinued and are in my opinion super unsecure to use, but this is not my philosophy.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Hi Hank,

 

I am still using jaws 18 with windows 10 latest release. I did install a trial version of jaws 2020, but there was no difference.

There was a difference however, between jaws 2018 and 2020 when using the Microsoft edge version of chrome.

If you like google chrome, and your jaws 2018, try a browser called brave.

It is chrome based, but has a much lighter footprint on your computer and will work with windows 7 and 10.

 

pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 06:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

I didn’t see any other replies, but for many of us Jaws 18 was so long ago, I for one don’t remember how it was different.

I assume you are still on Windows 7? Upgrading to the latest version of Jaws is also going to be more and more necessary if you want to run the latest release of Windows 10 which is coming up in the next few weeks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

 

Hello,

 

I am currently using jaws18, before I go and buy jaws2020, can someone maybe please give me just a couple of examples of how google Chrome works alot better with Jaws2020 versus the older version Jaws18?

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 10:46 AM 5/26/2020, Marie wrote:
That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and
not to the bookmark list.
The bookmark list is right in the bookmark manager. But when you're in the list by itself, you can't move or delete bookmarks. Consider the list as a read-only version of your bookmarks, while the bookmark manager gives you complete control.


Orlando Enrique Fiol


moderated Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Patrick, are you using Jaws 18 or Jaws 2018, they are not the same, Jaws 2018 is a year newer than Jaws 18 and as far as I know there are more and more problematic areas with Jaws 18 and the latest version of Windows which is about to get rolled out. Also keep in mind that your issues are not everybody’s issues and probably not even problems a lot of people experience. I understand how frustrating it is when you run into problems nobody else or almost nobody else seems to have, but these situations do exist where a combination of your hardware and how everything is configured causes strange issues which are hard to fix and even harder to reproduce. In such a case and when all else fails a clean reinstallation of Wibndows may be the only way forward although I am not somebody who suggests this solution lightly. I currently experience strange slow-downs on my laptop at home, granted it’s over 3 years old, but it’s also a high-end machine with a six generation I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD. I find Outlook, Edge and Google Chrome as well as certain File Explorer tasks to be quite slow especially when compared to my work PC. I have been using the upcoming Windows 10 version via the Windows Insider program for a few months now because I am also a Jaws beta tester and feel I should try and use upcoming Windows versions so I can test new features and provide feedback accordingly, but as soon as the 2004 version is officially out and I can get the Media Creation Tool for it, I plan to wipe this laptop clean and reinstall Windows from scratch, then Jaws 2020, Office and any other applications I use and I know this will improve things since I have done it with other PC’s many times.

If somebody is 3 or 4 years behind with Jaws it will always be my recommendation to upgrade especially since sooner rather than later it is probably necessary. Yes, I know there are people out there who still use computers which are 8 or 10 years old with the now unsupported Windows 7 with Jaws 16 or 17 and programs like Outlook Express which have also been discontinued and are in my opinion super unsecure to use, but this is not my philosophy.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

Hi Hank,

 

I am still using jaws 18 with windows 10 latest release. I did install a trial version of jaws 2020, but there was no difference.

There was a difference however, between jaws 2018 and 2020 when using the Microsoft edge version of chrome.

If you like google chrome, and your jaws 2018, try a browser called brave.

It is chrome based, but has a much lighter footprint on your computer and will work with windows 7 and 10.

 

pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 06:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

I didn’t see any other replies, but for many of us Jaws 18 was so long ago, I for one don’t remember how it was different.

I assume you are still on Windows 7? Upgrading to the latest version of Jaws is also going to be more and more necessary if you want to run the latest release of Windows 10 which is coming up in the next few weeks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

 

Hello,

 

I am currently using jaws18, before I go and buy jaws2020, can someone maybe please give me just a couple of examples of how google Chrome works alot better with Jaws2020 versus the older version Jaws18?

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 


moderated Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

Don Mauck
 

Alt+h,F,A always works. You can also add it to the QAC toolbar as well.

 

From: Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

 

Hi,

I typically just use copy/paste. 

I hope this helps. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On May 23, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:



Hi all, I have forgotten how to do it, so thanks for your help in this matter. Jim


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Gerald Levy
 


It's too bad there seems to be no easy way to merge the list of favorites imported from IE with the list of bookmarks created in Chrome itself to create a single list that could be navigated by first letter navigation. 


Gerald



On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Marie wrote:
That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and not to the bookmark list.
 
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome
 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and not to the bookmark list.
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome
 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Yes home and business are the same, but the business can be used in a business with emploies.

So yes it works with team

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: May 26, 2020 7:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition

Any idea where to find this link?
I have a presentation that i need to be on in a few weeks, and it uses microsoft teams.
If anyone can help with feedback on the program, that would be great.

Cheers,

Jed

On 5/23/20, Don & Cher <oneagleswings1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Martin and Milton- Thanks for the timely and very helpful responses-
just what I needed 😊



Cher







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Hi,



If you are looking for further assistance in using MS Team, Freedom
Scientific/Vispero training department did a webinar on MS team
earlier this year and the audio recording is available for download
along with some documentation that goes along with the webinar.



You will also find more information about MS Team on the Microsoft
Accessibility page.



Milton





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Do you have to have a pro license to use Microsoft Teams? Thanks much.



Cher









moderated Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition

Jed Barton
 

Any idea where to find this link?
I have a presentation that i need to be on in a few weeks, and it uses
microsoft teams.
If anyone can help with feedback on the program, that would be great.

Cheers,

Jed

On 5/23/20, Don & Cher <oneagleswings1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Martin and Milton- Thanks for the timely and very helpful responses- just
what I needed 😊



Cher







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Hi,



If you are looking for further assistance in using MS Team, Freedom
Scientific/Vispero training department did a webinar on MS team earlier this
year and the audio recording is available for download along with some
documentation that goes along with the webinar.



You will also find more information about MS Team on the Microsoft
Accessibility page.



Milton





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Does MS Teams work in JFW's Home Edition



Do you have to have a pro license to use Microsoft Teams? Thanks much.



Cher









moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Tom Behler
 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Ann Byrne
 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

What you’ll also notice is that Chrome will create a folder called Imported From IE, or Imported From Firefox, or whatever browser.

 

So you’ll have to either open that folder before you see the bookmarks, or do as I did, and move all the bookmarks to the bookmarks bar.  Then you can easily see them on the bar, and navigate with first letter navigation.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...>
 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...>
 

Hi Hank,

 

I am still using jaws 18 with windows 10 latest release. I did install a trial version of jaws 2020, but there was no difference.

There was a difference however, between jaws 2018 and 2020 when using the Microsoft edge version of chrome.

If you like google chrome, and your jaws 2018, try a browser called brave.

It is chrome based, but has a much lighter footprint on your computer and will work with windows 7 and 10.

 

pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2020 06:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

I didn’t see any other replies, but for many of us Jaws 18 was so long ago, I for one don’t remember how it was different.

I assume you are still on Windows 7? Upgrading to the latest version of Jaws is also going to be more and more necessary if you want to run the latest release of Windows 10 which is coming up in the next few weeks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how is jaws2020 better when using google chrome?

 

 

Hello,

 

I am currently using jaws18, before I go and buy jaws2020, can someone maybe please give me just a couple of examples of how google Chrome works alot better with Jaws2020 versus the older version Jaws18?

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance for any help with this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

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