Okay, thanks to somebody on another list, here's a link to a Drop Box folder that contains the installer for the complete suite of KitchensInc games for Windows 10.?? I installed them on my Windows 10 PC, and they work!:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqsdwm1wksyi8b9/Kitchensinc%20complete%20Setup.exe?dl=1


Gerald



On 7/24/2019 6:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yes, there are certainly differences, but downward compatibility is definitely a major concern in this operating system. I'm not only assuming, but basing it upon all my personal experience with this operating system so far, which tells me that, though you may have to do a bit of tweaking, almost everything short of old Dos programmes can be made to work.
Nevertheless, try installing them on your Windows 10 machine; see what happens.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: July 24, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kitchensinc games


Not necessarily.?? Windows 10 is a completely different animal than its predecessors.?? You downloaded the KitchensInc games from Bryan Smart's site, which, unfortunately, is apparently gone.?? Who knows what he did to get them to work with Windows 10??? Has anyone downloaded these games from Jim Kitchen's original site and gotten them to work successfully with Windows 10??? I'm pretty sure the games on this site were designed to work only with Windows 7 and earlier, and you cannot assume that a program that works with Windows 7 will work with Windows 10 without modification.


Gerald



On 7/24/2019 5:17 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So, I only got these a couple of years ago on my Windows 10 box. Seems I downloaded the versions provided on Brian Smart's site. But, I'm not really sure that much was done with them. I think they're the most recent versions by Kitchen himself. Maybe the menu programme is new, and they are voiced by Microsoft David, in my case, but it's probably the Sapi voice that was also available in Windows 7.
So, while I???m not 100% certain/wouldn't bank a ton of money on it, I'm willing to suppose that if you have something that works in Windows 7, you should be able to get it to work with 10 also. Windows is pretty downward compatible in general. I know some people have had trouble with games using directx, but even then, a little searching on the internet will usually provide all the components you need.

The games are all right; not too stimulating to me for the most part, but the baseball game is ... oddly relaxing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: July 24, 2019 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Kitchensinc games

this maybe a long shot, but the battleship game is not announcing the coordinates as my sister moves about the grid. does anyone know of a fix or can suggest how to maybe fix this issue?

also would like to know if the games have been ported to work in
Windows
10 so I can install the games when I finally upgrade?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft notifications

As I have mentioned before, there is a presumption at work here that these are indeed Microsoft notifications that may not be correct.

There are all sorts of notifications that can be popped up by a web browser.  Since I don't use a screen reader on a constant basis I do not know how they all might be announced, but I would have to believe that the screen reader would make their presence known.

There is a limit to the number of terms that screen reader software is going to use for a basic notification, and my suspicion is that there may be a browser push notification involved here, but I have no way to prove it.

And, Rick, everything you have been describing strongly indicates you have corruption in your Windows 10 installation.  Do yourself a favor and go through Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

Randy,

I now truly believe my pc has gremlins hidden within.

Yesterday, while at work and on this desk top pc running windows 10 and jaws 2019. I could be closing any Microsoft application, including internet explorer, outlook, word and ExCell, when I would close the program, I would hear “new notification”. I could not find any notification with either cursor, jaws/pc/touch cursors.

Today, I turn on my pc and have forgotten about this, opening and closing various programs previously mentioned. Until I find your message here in Outlook, I had forgotten about this issue experienced all day yesterday. I began opening and closing these various troubled programs and nothing. No more “new notification” alerts.

So, the gremlins are sleeping in obvously and the problem has mysteriously moved on.

Thanks for the note and if this returns, I’ll be back hoping to find a resolution.

Rickpc/

Hi Rick, sorry to hear you're still having all kinds of trouble. Although I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say maybe can we freeze it? :-)

It is an HP EliteDesk 800 Mini PC and I have 2 of them, only difference is that one has an I5 CPU (the one where Jaws doesn’t read Settings etc.) and the other has an I7 CPU. Both of them are sixth generation and the specs otherwise are identical. Software is very much the same and Jaws first read everything fine when I installed Windows 10 Professional on these last year in April. These systems still came with Windows 7 at the time (a Windows 10 license downgraded to Windows 7) and I did a completely new install of Windows 10 from USB media, e.g. deleted all partitions, created new partitions and formatted the SSD drives, then installed Windows 10, afterwards I installed all my applications and Jaws. Both systems run Office via Office 365 download, my Microsoft point of sale software (they are both computers used in my retail store) and I have dealt with Jaws elevated support on this last year with no success. The computer where this is happening is our main register and I don’t use it all that much since it is mostly my sighted staff using it and I have simply put up with it for now using Narrator if I need to do anything in Settings. It would be too much work for me at this point to wipe this system clean and reinstall Windows on it, it has a plug-in from my credit card processor installed to connect our point of sale system with their PinPad and all in all it’s just to o disruptive right now to do this.

Hi Sieghard,

Is that computer the same make and model as the others?

Does it run software that other computers of yours don’t run?

Hi Meesha,

Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications.

I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch.

I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator.

Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following:

Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked

Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu.

Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.

Best regards,

Sieghard

In the June update of Jaws

have also

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

It is an HP EliteDesk 800 Mini PC and I have 2 of them, only difference is that one has an I5 CPU (the one where Jaws doesn’t read Settings etc.) and the other has an I7 CPU. Both of them are sixth generation and the specs otherwise are identical. Software is very much the same and Jaws first read everything fine when I installed Windows 10 Professional on these last year in April. These systems still came with Windows 7 at the time (a Windows 10 license downgraded to Windows 7) and I did a completely new install of Windows 10 from USB media, e.g. deleted all partitions, created new partitions and formatted the SSD drives, then installed Windows 10, afterwards I installed all my applications and Jaws. Both systems run Office via Office 365 download, my Microsoft point of sale software (they are both computers used in my retail store) and I have dealt with Jaws elevated support on this last year with no success. The computer where this is happening is our main register and I don’t use it all that much since it is mostly my sighted staff using it and I have simply put up with it for now using Narrator if I need to do anything in Settings. It would be too much work for me at this point to wipe this system clean and reinstall Windows on it, it has a plug-in from my credit card processor installed to connect our point of sale system with their PinPad and all in all it’s just to o disruptive right now to do this.

Hi Sieghard,

Is that computer the same make and model as the others?

Does it run software that other computers of yours don’t run?

Hi Meesha,

Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications.

I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch.

I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator.

Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following:

Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked

Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu.

Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.

Best regards,

Sieghard

In the June update of Jaws

have also

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

Hi Sieghard,

Is that computer the same make and model as the others?

Does it run software that other computers of yours don’t run?

Hi Meesha,

Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications.

I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch.

I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator.

Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following:

Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked

Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu.

Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.

Best regards,

Sieghard

In the June update of Jaws

have also

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

Hi Meesha,

Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications.

I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch.

I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator.

Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following:

Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked

Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu.

Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.

Best regards,

Sieghard

In the June update of Jaws

have also

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

As far as settings goes, that is Jaws.

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

Randy,

I now truly believe my pc has gremlins hidden within.

Yesterday, while at work and on this desk top pc running windows 10 and jaws 2019. I could be closing any Microsoft application, including internet explorer, outlook, word and ExCell, when I would close the program, I would hear “new notification”. I could not find any notification with either cursor, jaws/pc/touch cursors.

Today, I turn on my pc and have forgotten about this, opening and closing various programs previously mentioned. Until I find your message here in Outlook, I had forgotten about this issue experienced all day yesterday. I began opening and closing these various troubled programs and nothing. No more “new notification” alerts.

So, the gremlins are sleeping in obvously and the problem has mysteriously moved on.

Thanks for the note and if this returns, I’ll be back hoping to find a resolution.

Rickpc/

Hi Rick, sorry to hear you're still having all kinds of trouble. Although I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say maybe can we freeze it? :-)