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Re: Braille displays and italicized words

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Ann,

Ah yes, this is a bit of a bug bear of mine. For some inexplicable reason, I have not found a screen reader that can do italics according to the rules of literary braille. JAWS can certainly show italics, but you will not get the old faithful italicised symbol/italicised word/italicised passage signs that you'll be used to from braille hard copy.

Instead, screen reader italics use dots 7 and 8 under the affected word(s). The setting to turn this on in JAWS is in Settings Centre/Braille/Braille Marking/Braille Marking. Note you may need to turn it on in both the Word and Default files.

HTH,

Matthew

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Braille displays and italicized words

 

Hi folks,

 

 

I feel like this is a very basic question. And I also feel like I need some kind of basic braille display tutorial, too.

 

 

But I am still getting used to using a braille display with jaws.

 

 

I'm running the latest Jaws 2019 on a Windows 10 machine. When

reviewing/editing a word document, how can I get the braille display to

show when a word or passage is italicized? My input and output braille

settings are both set to Grade 2 braille, and my display for now is a

Braillepen 12 Touch, but I am hoping to get an Orbit Reader20 very soon.

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

Re: question about best practices for note-taking and retrieval

Yates, Danney
 

Amy,
This is an interesting topic that, I too, have had to deal with. I have used a PacMate for a no. of ears and recently got it serviced, with what remaining parts FS still had available. I've tried using my IPhone with Bluetooth keyboard, but found editing on PacMate simpler for me.
I basically just set up folders with files, such as a "minutes" folder, with files contained for each of the recurring meetings and it works pretty well.
What actual device do you use in meetings to take your notes?
Danney




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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: question about best practices for note-taking and retreival

Hi - In my new job, I attend tons of meetings, have to take loads of notes, and from those notes, keep an active list of action items. There are many topics to keep track of, and when it gets real busy, I can lose track of everything on my plate. Wondering how other professionals deal with this kind of working situation. What I do now is keep several MS Word documents as notebooks. Each time I attend a meeting, I open the appropriate Word file, enter a new heading (easy to search for later with navigation quick keys) and then start taking notes. If something comes up that I need to get onto my to-do list, I put 3 asterisks there so I can search quickly for those items later, and transfer them to my to-do list. I'm finding though that when it gets busy, I don't always go back to the Word file and pull those to-do items out and add them to my task list (in Outlook).
I messed around this afternoon with OneNote, but didn't find it very user friendly with Jaws. Maybe I just don't know how to use it well. I've used it in the past with the OneNote Blind scripts, but found them problematic after a while and switched to the Word file notebook system above.
Any other apps or ideas for doing this kind of work with Jaws? Needs to be efficient and easy to learn.
Thanks.
-Amy

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I will go with that.

Matthew

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help if I email you offlist to explain further?

 

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

Hi,

 

A few points to answer here:

 

    1.  To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

    2.  Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it across.

    3.  Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back to it next day.

 

HTH,

 

Matthew

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac

Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

 

 

So, why would you save with out compiling?

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: "ratshtron"

<northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...>>

 

To: <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

 

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

 

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

 

 

 

 

to compile a jaws script, you must have the

 

script file loaded and you simply save the script

 

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

 

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 

Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

 

----------------------------------------

 

If anyone can point me to the instructions with

 

regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

 

appreciate it.  I have never found the

 

scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

 

 

 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

 

 

 

   Explanations exist; they have existed for

 

all time; there is always a well-known solution

 

to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

 

 

 

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

 

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Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

Matthew Horspool
 

Hello Addison,

I am not a Facebook expert so I did not jump into this thread straight away, thinking that perhaps someone else might have a more thorough answer. But yes, the regular facebook.com website is accessible with JAWS.

There shouldn't be any difference in notifications between regular Facebook and M Facebook, as far as I know. You will not get notified every time somebody posts as this is the purpose of the news feed.

I hope I have understood your questions correctly. I wouldn't usually point it out, but since you bring it up, your messages don't contain very much punctuation and the wording is not very clear, so it does take quite a while for me to process what you've said and then even longer to interpret it. If you could perhaps insert a few more full stops it might make things a little easier.

Best wishes,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello Is there anyone can helped me?If not then I don’t understand you all can helps other unless you all doesn’t understand me and not much experience on computer stuff and have not had much computer training . If I defend anyone feeling I’m sorry !!

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello All  Is jaws accessible to read on www.facebook.com  ? I have been using m.facebook.com  website  I’m having problem not receiving notifications page with the people who’s I’m following and like theirs page to receive theirs post on notification on m.facebook.com  I was wonder if I need to go to regular facebook website. I noticed on yesterday I went on lite.facebook.com website and heard some of the people that I’m follow is there but when I press enter on it jaws is little behave acts on the page. I really need some help here because I can’t use my mobile phone with hearing impairment not able to hear voiceover loud enough to understandit. I have desktop and laptop computer.

Addison

 

 

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Re: Vlc player and audio conversion

Mike
 

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 05:10 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
webex file to mp3 using vlc
Not sure, but search this string of text in Google: convert webex file mp3 vlc

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

JM Casey
 

I don’t know a ton about this, but…..

 

The scripts would be loaded at program startup, I believe, not JAWS startup. I think it’s quite picky about it as well; in order for the scripts to load automatically they have to share the same name as the programme’s main executable. So, a lot of things could potentially stop an old script from working. Do the earlier JAWS versions + script still work with the client’s application?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

Hello All,

           I've got a client who had a one-line JAWS script written years ago for a specific application she uses, and JAWS used to work with it in conjunction with that tweak.  I cannot, however, get JAWS 2018 or JAWS 2019 to do so, and I think I'm missing a step somewhere.

           I had thought JAWS scripts were interpreted and loaded by JAWS at startup time, but that does not appear to be the case (unless I'm doing something else wrong).

           I figure someone here should be able to guide me about how to get a pre-existing script moved along to a newer version of JAWS.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Mario
 

in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi,

A few points to answer here:

1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.
2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place
as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.
3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.

HTH,

Matthew



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron"
<northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...>>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?





to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.





Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

----------------------------------------

If anyone can point me to the instructions with

regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

appreciate it. I have never found the

scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--



Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â



  Explanations exist; they have existed for

all time; there is always a well-known solution

to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.



     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore



----------------------------------------

Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello Is there anyone can helped me?If not then I don’t understand you all can helps other unless you all doesn’t understand me and not much experience on computer stuff and have not had much computer training . If I defend anyone feeling I’m sorry !!

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello All  Is jaws accessible to read on www.facebook.com  ? I have been using m.facebook.com  website  I’m having problem not receiving notifications page with the people who’s I’m following and like theirs page to receive theirs post on notification on m.facebook.com  I was wonder if I need to go to regular facebook website. I noticed on yesterday I went on lite.facebook.com website and heard some of the people that I’m follow is there but when I press enter on it jaws is little behave acts on the page. I really need some help here because I can’t use my mobile phone with hearing impairment not able to hear voiceover loud enough to understandit. I have desktop and laptop computer.

Addison

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Braille displays and italicized words

ann
 

Hi folks,


I feel like this is a very basic question. And I also feel like I need some kind of basic braille display tutorial, too.


But I am still getting used to using a braille display with jaws.


I'm running the latest Jaws 2019 on a Windows 10 machine. When reviewing/editing a word document, how can I get the braille display to show when a word or passage is italicized? My input and output braille settings are both set to Grade 2 braille, and my display for now is a Braillepen 12 Touch, but I am hoping to get an Orbit Reader20 very soon.


Thanks,

~Ann

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi,

Roger is basically correct. However, there is a precedent for needing to recompile scripts between JAWS versions on a very occasional basis. This memorably happened when upgrading from JAWS 4.5 to 5.0 and I believe a similar thing happened around the JAWS 17 cycle. The scripts don't need to be re-written, but the compiler/interpreter architecture has changed somehow, so old but still valid source code needs to be recompiled in the new binary format.

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: 28 November 2018 08:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

You write your scripts in a scripting language that is proprietary to JAWS and MAGic; it is not a programming language like C++, C# or Python.

 

Freedom Scientific occasionally introduces new functions (a scripting term, not a synonym for "features") to the Script Manager. They ocasionally change how small things work. But it is very, very unlikely that you would need to rewrite or recompile scripts for a newer version of JAWS, particularly if they are small script files.

 

On 11/28/18, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:

> So, is the scripting language constently beeing updated, if errors are

> found, and if so, do you have to re-compile scripts with a new version

> of the script editor?  Also, what language are scripts written in, c,

> c+ e t c?

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Matthew Horspool

>   To: main@jfw.groups.io

>   Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:03 AM

>   Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

>   Hi,

>   A few points to answer here:

>     1.. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic

> keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this!

> To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from

> within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file

> for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the

> correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the

> Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

>     2.. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same

> place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,

> however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script

> Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS

> Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is

> because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is

> changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is

> created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts.

> However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the

> documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file

> may never make it across.

>     3.. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in

> your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you

> can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the

> problem and come back to it next day.

>   HTH,

>   Matthew

>   -----Original Message-----

>   From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac

>   Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

>   To: main@jfw.groups.io

>   Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

>   So, why would you save with out compiling?

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

>   To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

>   Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

>   Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

>   to compile a jaws script, you must have the

>   script file loaded and you simply save the script

>   with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

>   without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

>   Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

>   ----------------------------------------

>   >If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>   >regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>   >appreciate it.  I have never found the

>   >scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>   >

>   >Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>   >

>   >   Explanations exist; they have existed for

>   >all time; there is always a well-known solution

>   >to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>   >

>   >         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

>   >

>   ----------------------------------------

>

 

 

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

I haven't heard of this particular script.

Just to verify, is this a third-party script for which you were
provided with the .jsb file? If so, please make sure you can locate
the file in the following location:
C:\Users\[YourUserDirectory]\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\2019\Settings\enu If you have the .jss and/or .jsh
file, you should probably show it to someone who knows how to read it
to verify that it's not calling on a particular script or function or
something that's been moved around in JAWS 2019.

On 11/28/18, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Using: W10 64 bit and Jaws 2019.

Hi

I have experienced a problem with the punctuation script since upgrading
from Jaws 2018 to 2019.

Under 2018, the script could be run from anywhere on the system but since
changing to 2019, the only place the script works is when it is run from
the
desktop. If I am in a folder on another drive say, hitting shift control
P,
Jaws says, "unknown script call to".

If I still wish to change the punctuation level then it is a trip back to
the Desktop and try again.

Cheers
Tom



Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Using: W10 64 bit and Jaws 2019.

 

Hi

 

I have experienced a problem with the punctuation  script since upgrading from Jaws 2018 to 2019.

 

Under 2018, the script could be run from anywhere on the system but since changing to 2019, the only place the script works is when it is run from the desktop.  If I am in a folder on another drive say, hitting shift control P, Jaws says, “unknown script call to”.

 

If I still wish to change the punctuation level then it is a trip back to the Desktop and try again.

 

Cheers

Tom

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

You write your scripts in a scripting language that is proprietary to
JAWS and MAGic; it is not a programming language like C++, C# or
Python.

Freedom Scientific occasionally introduces new functions (a scripting
term, not a synonym for "features") to the Script Manager. They
ocasionally change how small things work. But it is very, very
unlikely that you would need to rewrite or recompile scripts for a
newer version of JAWS, particularly if they are small script files.

On 11/28/18, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
So, is the scripting language constently beeing updated, if errors are
found, and if so, do you have to re-compile scripts with a new version of
the script editor? Also, what language are scripts written in, c, c+ e t
c?
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Horspool
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?


Hi,

A few points to answer here:

1.. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get
to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the
application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file
should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager
after you receive the compiler success message.
2.. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as
the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for
JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script
Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS
Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the
user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put
there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so
both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts.
However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation,
keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it
across.
3.. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your
code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure
out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back
to it next day.
HTH,

Matthew



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?





to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.





Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

----------------------------------------

>If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>appreciate it. I have never found the

>scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>

>Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>

>Â Â Explanations exist; they have existed for

>all time; there is always a well-known solution

>to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>

>Â Â Â Â Â ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

>

----------------------------------------




















Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

So, is the scripting language constently beeing updated, if errors are found, and if so, do you have to re-compile scripts with a new version of the script editor?  Also, what language are scripts written in, c, c+ e t c?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi,

A few points to answer here:

  1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.
  2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it across.
  3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back to it next day.

HTH,

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

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>If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>appreciate it.  I have never found the

>scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>   Explanations exist; they have existed for

>all time; there is always a well-known solution

>to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi,

A few points to answer here:

  1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script Manager after you receive the compiler success message.
  2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply, however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header), JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an update, the JSD file may never make it across.
  3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem and come back to it next day.

HTH,

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----

From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

 

to compile a jaws script, you must have the

script file loaded and you simply save the script

with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save

without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.

 

 

Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:

----------------------------------------

>If anyone can point me to the instructions with

>regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would

>appreciate it.  I have never found the

>scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

>Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

>   Explanations exist; they have existed for

>all time; there is always a well-known solution

>to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

>         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

----------------------------------------

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

The script won't compile if there are syntax errors. Imagine that you
were working on a script but had to leave your computer for some
reason, but did not want to lose your work. You might be in the middle
of troubleshooting something by editing your script file, but not be
able to compile it because you might still be editing it.

On 11/28/18, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
So, why would you save with out compiling?
----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?


to compile a jaws script, you must have the
script file loaded and you simply save the script
with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save
without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:
----------------------------------------
If anyone can point me to the instructions with
regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would
appreciate it. I have never found the
scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
----------------------------------------








Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

So, why would you save with out compiling?

----- Original Message -----
From: "ratshtron" <northstarr1950@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?


to compile a jaws script, you must have the
script file loaded and you simply save the script
with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save
without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.


Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:
----------------------------------------
If anyone can point me to the instructions with
regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would
appreciate it. I have never found the
scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
----------------------------------------

looks like it is working again

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

                Hi, A few hours ago, any message I sent to this list did not get through but now all seems well again.

 

Now that the main Jaws list works, will try the W10 list  because this was also blocking me.

 

Tom

 

test message, please ignore

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

This is just some junk

 

Re: Tables in word

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Thanks! That worked!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tables in word

 

I found one way while looking for the option on the ribbons.

Hit alt+q to get into the “tell me what you want to do” screen, and type convert table to text and hit enter.

You will be in the feature to separate the text with tabs or comma, etc.  Make your selection and tab to OK and hit enter.

You now have just the text.

Since it is one column, I am not sure what selection in those options you want, but give it a try.  Just don’t save the document until you are sure you have what you want.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Tables in word

 

Hello,

 

I’m using Jaws 2018, windows10 and word 2016. I copied some text from a web site. When I pasted into a word document the text shows in a table that is one column. Is there a way to remove the table and leave the text?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin