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For those complaining about SpinRite, it would help if you read the information at the site. The low-level file systems used under Windows (and a number of other operating systems) have not changed in a very, very long time. Thus, it's not necessary for software that examines, analyzes and fixes same to change, either.
The SpinRite page explicitly states: " SpinRite is able to operate on all Windows XP NTFS formats, all DOS FAT, all Linux file systems, Novell, Macintosh (if temporarily moved into a PC) or anything else." NTFS is NTFS as NTFS has always been. The various FAT varieties as well. Steve Gibson doesn't generally leave anything up on the Gibson Research site that isn't currently useful, even if not developed recently. If he's still selling it, and he is, it's certain to still do what it was advertised as doing. In any case, errors such as the one being described here always scream "failed or imminently failing" drive to me. You may be able to get more information about what's wrong, which is useful to know just for one's own information, but it's unlikely to be fixable. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner. ~ Eric Hoffer
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Gerald Levy
If this is the case, then how can it be JAWS accessible??? Indeed, if there is no speech, how can you use this program in the first place without sighted help? The original inquirer specifically asked for a utility that is JAWS accessible.
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Gerald
On 8/11/2019 11:08 AM, Mario wrote:
it runs from a bootable CD/DVD or thumb drive off of FreeDOS, and cannot
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Mario
6.1 and subsequently 6.2 or above is coming, but when, I haven't got a
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clue. it's true it's been a while it hasn't been updated , but there wasn't any need as there weren't any complaints of problems in 6.0... according to Steve Gibson. I wish there was a DOS screen reader I could use when Spinrite runs. I recall Freedom Scientific had a link on their website for saving a copy of JAWS For DOS, but it is no longer there. darn.
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From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io [mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Sunday, August 11, 2019, 10:40 AM Subject: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS The GRC web site clearly refers to the latest version of Spinwrite as,, "Spinwrite 6.0 for Windows XP".?? It does not mention Windows 7, 8 or 10.?? Further research reveals that it has not been updated since 2010.?? So how could it work with a modern computer? On the contrary, it might actually do more harm than good.?? Running a program that has not been updated in almost ten years is just a bad idea. Gerald On 8/11/2019 10:20 AM, John Covici wrote: I don't think you use it with Windows at all, but check the website for more information. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:55:14 -0400, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote: Spinwrite??? Are you serious??? My understanding is that Spinwrite does not work with versions of Windows higher than XP.?? Have you used it successfully with Windows 7 or 10? Gerald On 8/11/2019 6:34 AM, John Covici wrote: I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive. Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Everyone: I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB Hdd Drives, which ar F and G. Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting the drive, only that Windows could not access it. I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me to the DOS Shell window. My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair utility, which is accessible using JAWS At present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which hold the information about the data stored on the drive. Any Suggestions please. Sincerely: Dave Durber .
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Mario
it runs from a bootable CD/DVD or thumb drive off of FreeDOS, and cannot
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do what it does while the drive is running Windows.
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From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Sunday, August 11, 2019, 10:20 AM Subject: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS I don't think you use it with Windows at all, but check the website for more information. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:55:14 -0400, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote: Spinwrite??? Are you serious??? My understanding is that Spinwrite does not work with versions of Windows higher than XP.?? Have you used it successfully with Windows 7 or 10? Gerald On 8/11/2019 6:34 AM, John Covici wrote: I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive. Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400, Dave Durber wrote: Hello Everyone: I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB Hdd Drives, which ar F and G. Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting the drive, only that Windows could not access it. I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me to the DOS Shell window. My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair utility, which is accessible using JAWS At present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which hold the information about the data stored on the drive. Any Suggestions please. Sincerely: Dave Durber
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Gerald Levy
The GRC web site clearly refers to the latest version of Spinwrite as,, "Spinwrite 6.0 for Windows XP".?? It does not mention Windows 7, 8 or 10.?? Further research reveals that it has not been updated since 2010.?? So how could it work with a modern computer? On the contrary, it might actually do more harm than good.?? Running a program that has not been updated in almost ten years is just a bad idea.
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Gerald
On 8/11/2019 10:20 AM, John Covici wrote:
I don't think you use it with Windows at all, but check the website
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John Covici
I don't think you use it with Windows at all, but check the website
for more information. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:55:14 -0400, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Another Winamp Question
Tom Behler
Thanks, John.
I’ll add this suggestion to my notes for when the problem comes up again, which I’m sure it will.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 4:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Hi Tom, Bill told you the best way to get rid of for good. But another way that worked for me for individual devices was to press Jaws F10 to bring up a list of running applications. The Yes/No appears here and allows you to focus on it and click no to get rid of it for the device you are using with Winamp.
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Gerald Levy
Spinwrite??? Are you serious??? My understanding is that Spinwrite does not work with versions of Windows higher than XP.?? Have you used it successfully with Windows 7 or 10?
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Gerald
On 8/11/2019 6:34 AM, John Covici wrote:
I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive.
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Re: Disk repair utility, usable with JAWS
John Covici
I would get smartmontools and see what it says about your drive.
Also, a great utility for disk repair is spinwrite at www.grc.com. On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:00:21 -0400, Dave Durber wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Dave Durber
Hello Everyone:
I have a system running Windows 7 Professional 64 BIT, which I intend upgrading to Windows 10 when I get a new Motherboard for it. I have JAWS 2018 installed on it. In addition to the CD-DVD ROM, it has a 120 GB SSD, which is the system drive, and 2 1 TB Hdd Drives, which ar F and G. Yesterday, when I started the system, I tried to log onto drive g. Windows reported a drive error. Of course, being Windows, the operating system did not tell me what type of error was affecting the drive, only that Windows could not access it. I ran CMD, and in the DOS shell window, I used CHKDSK with the /f switch. CHKDSK, reported that it could not attempt to scan the drive because of a drive error and closed itself and returned me to the DOS Shell window. My question is, is anyone on this list, using a good disk repair utility, which is accessible using JAWS At present, I have no idea, as to whether the problem is with the partition, its format or the problem is with the files which hold the information about the data stored on the drive. Any Suggestions please. Sincerely: Dave Durber
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John Gurd
Hi Tom, Bill told you the best way to get rid of for good. But another way that worked for me for individual devices was to press Jaws F10 to bring up a list of running applications. The Yes/No appears here and allows you to focus on it and click no to get rid of it for the device you are using with Winamp.
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On 10 Aug 2019, at 21:06, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
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JM Casey
Well, this is all very odd. I would have to reinstall winamp in order to experience this dialogue again since I have the related plugin uninstalled completely, but, yes, I do remember it. I also don’t really remember it being a problem, though, just a minor annoyance.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: August 9, 2019 4:06 PM To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Another Winamp Question
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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JM Casey
I noticed this too, but I was using the same version of Winamp on my xp machine without this issue, so I think it has something to do with Windows 10, or at least, I thought it did, but you verifying that an older version of Winamp actually does not have this issue is – very interesting. In any case, I pretty much stopped using shift-l to add folders to playlists because of this, and now just use the context/shell option instead, which is really just as good … better as far as Windows itself is concerned, anyway.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: August 9, 2019 7:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
I've discovered an interesting problem with that version. If I press Shift plus L to open a folder, I can navigate to a folder which I absolutely know contains nearly three hundred folders, but Winamp says there's only one. If I remove 5.666 and reinstall 5.63, it works correctly. Weird, eh?
On 8/9/2019 5:25 PM, Bill White wrote:
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Tom Behler
Thanks, Bill.
I’m learning here!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 7:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Hi, Tom. If the USB plugin is in the plugins folder, there’s nothing risky in removing it. I don’t even have it in my plugins folder.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Bill:
I’m using version 5.666 build 3512.
I believe I installed the full version the last time I did so.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Tom. Which version of Winamp are you using? I am using Winamp version 5.66, full, and I am not getting this message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Tom Behler
Bill:
If the problem persists, I might actually uninstall and then reinstall winamp.
I do have the executable file for my version here.
I’ve never quite understood all of the options that come up in the instalation process, so your suggestions here are very helpful.
I’m going to keep them handy.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 7:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Hi again, Tom. It sounds like when you installed Winamp, you left something checked, when it might have been simpler to uncheck some things. I uncheck Winamp agent, I uncheck the library, and I also uncheck visualization.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Bill:
I’m using version 5.666 build 3512.
I believe I installed the full version the last time I did so.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Tom. Which version of Winamp are you using? I am using Winamp version 5.66, full, and I am not getting this message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Bill White
Hi, Tom. If the USB plugin is in the plugins folder, there’s nothing risky in removing it. I don’t even have it in my plugins folder.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 3:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Bill:
I’m using version 5.666 build 3512.
I believe I installed the full version the last time I did so.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Tom. Which version of Winamp are you using? I am using Winamp version 5.66, full, and I am not getting this message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Bill White
Hi again, Tom. It sounds like when you installed Winamp, you left something checked, when it might have been simpler to uncheck some things. I uncheck Winamp agent, I uncheck the library, and I also uncheck visualization.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 3:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Bill:
I’m using version 5.666 build 3512.
I believe I installed the full version the last time I did so.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Tom. Which version of Winamp are you using? I am using Winamp version 5.66, full, and I am not getting this message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Steve Matzura
I've discovered an interesting problem with that version. If I press Shift plus L to open a folder, I can navigate to a folder which I absolutely know contains nearly three hundred folders, but Winamp says there's only one. If I remove 5.666 and reinstall 5.63, it works correctly. Weird, eh?
On 8/9/2019 5:25 PM, Bill White wrote:
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Tom Behler
Bill:
I’m using version 5.666 build 3512.
I believe I installed the full version the last time I did so.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 5:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question
Hi, Tom. Which version of Winamp are you using? I am using Winamp version 5.66, full, and I am not getting this message.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: “Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?”.
There is a yes/no button, but I can’t get to it.
I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck.
Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp.
And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer.
Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off?
I’m using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Tom Behler
No, I have not done this.
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I'm hoping the solution is a bit simpler, but will keep this in mind as well. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 5:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Another Winamp Question have you tried setting the window restriction level to unrestricted when the JAWS cursor is active? press the numpad minus to invoke the JAWS cursor and before moving the JAWS cursor, press and hold down the insert and press r until you hear "unrestricted" and see if you can locate and left click (numpad slash) the yes or no button. don't forget to set the window restriction level back to application window restriction. -------- Original Message -------- From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com] To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io> Date: Friday, August 9, 2019, 4:05 PM Subject: Another Winamp Question Hello, everyone. Within the past few wekes, whenever I try to play an audio file from my external hard drive with Winamp, I get a message that says something like: "Winamp has detected a an external drive; do you want Winamp to access this drive?". There is a yes/no button, but I can't get to it. I have tried enter, and the space bar. I also have tried rooting the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, but have had no luck. Occasionally, after trying, I can get the message to play, but then I get an error message about reporting the problem to Winamp. And, once I get these messages, the only way I can get rid of them is to completely shut down and re-boot my computer. Has anyone experienced this issue? If so, how can I respond, or better yet, how can I turn this anoying notification off? I'm using windows 10 version 1809 with the latest build of Jaws 2019. Thanks! Tom Behler
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