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moderated Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi tyler, I’m an Android user so your info is very helpful. Now all I have to do is find the time to get this bab boy up and running. <smile> Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Hello there.

Just to add a few things here re: key pass, though I am relatively new to it.

Android has a similar setup with key pass droid.

You can use key pass portably with the actual database file stored separate from the portable key pass folder, which is quite handy. E.g. key pass itself stored on your computer’s hard drive with the database file, that being the file that stores all of your usernames and passwords, stored on something like a thumb drive or external hard drive. It, of course, could also be stored on your computer as well.

A few questions I have personally.

Are there any settings that one recommends changing from the defaults? Any plug ins that work exceptionally well or are recommended?

So far, really liking keypass. I don’t like the idea of my passwords in the cloud – to me, it is counter intuitive to store passwords using a service that itself could be compromised – as has happened with 1 password – and this is free. Of course, if the database file gets physically stolen e.g. thumb drive or computer, wherever the file may be stored, that in itself is a problem. So far as I know, however, when passwords get updated on, say, a computer, the file must be sent to the mobile device manually and vice versa.


Hope that helps!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Hi alan, this is great info, thanks so much! I’ll definitely be checking keypass out. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Norma,

 

Sorry about being a bit late to the party.

 

I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:

 

https://keepass.info/download.html

 

It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:

 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download

 

If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.

 

Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/

 

The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote:

https://www.pwsafe.org/

Seconded in a big way.   It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do.   Any change I make to my password safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result.

And you can't beat free and accessible.   Password Safe and its ports don't have every one of the flashy bells and whistles of some commercial products, but it's way more than sufficient for my needs and does have quite a few bells and whistles that I don't use.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: vocalizer expressive voices

Richard Turner
 

Under Add voices in Jaws 2019 there is no indication of the version number, but when I select my current voice it says already installed.
So, maybe not?



Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: vocalizer expressive voices

Have the free vocalizer voices been updated?


moderated vocalizer expressive voices

Don H
 

Have the free vocalizer voices been updated?


moderated Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

Tyler Wood
 

Hello there.

Just to add a few things here re: key pass, though I am relatively new to it.

Android has a similar setup with key pass droid.

You can use key pass portably with the actual database file stored separate from the portable key pass folder, which is quite handy. E.g. key pass itself stored on your computer’s hard drive with the database file, that being the file that stores all of your usernames and passwords, stored on something like a thumb drive or external hard drive. It, of course, could also be stored on your computer as well.

A few questions I have personally.

Are there any settings that one recommends changing from the defaults? Any plug ins that work exceptionally well or are recommended?

So far, really liking keypass. I don’t like the idea of my passwords in the cloud – to me, it is counter intuitive to store passwords using a service that itself could be compromised – as has happened with 1 password – and this is free. Of course, if the database file gets physically stolen e.g. thumb drive or computer, wherever the file may be stored, that in itself is a problem. So far as I know, however, when passwords get updated on, say, a computer, the file must be sent to the mobile device manually and vice versa.


Hope that helps!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Hi alan, this is great info, thanks so much! I’ll definitely be checking keypass out. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Norma,

 

Sorry about being a bit late to the party.

 

I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:

 

https://keepass.info/download.html

 

It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:

 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download

 

If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.

 

Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/

 

The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote:

https://www.pwsafe.org/

Seconded in a big way.   It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do.   Any change I make to my password safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result.

And you can't beat free and accessible.   Password Safe and its ports don't have every one of the flashy bells and whistles of some commercial products, but it's way more than sufficient for my needs and does have quite a few bells and whistles that I don't use.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: password manager

Norma A. Boge
 

I had the same kind of file on my PC. However, my personal Gmail account was just compromised so I moved my document with all my info to a flash drive and am going to use a password manager. I’m glad you’re not vulnerable to hacking. I am not going to continue taking that chance. Thanks, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:42 PM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password manager

 

I have not found a good one.  I use notepad and put site title, web, user name and password in a text file.    I use * to help with a search!  It only takes seconds to find what I am looking for and I don’t have to worry about hacking....works for me and it’s reliable.

 


George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi alan, this is great info, thanks so much! I’ll definitely be checking keypass out. Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Norma,

 

Sorry about being a bit late to the party.

 

I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:

 

https://keepass.info/download.html

 

It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:

 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download

 

If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.

 

Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/

 

The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote:

https://www.pwsafe.org/

Seconded in a big way.   It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do.   Any change I make to my password safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result.

And you can't beat free and accessible.   Password Safe and its ports don't have every one of the flashy bells and whistles of some commercial products, but it's way more than sufficient for my needs and does have quite a few bells and whistles that I don't use.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

DJ
 

I find the app to be extremely accessible and well-maintained on the iPhone. I don’t use it on the Mac but I do use it on windows as well. It does a very good job of automatically synchronizing any updates that I make to my database. Again, it is quite accessible.


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:15 PM John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
I was using keepass, but it no longer works on the mac and the ios
client (keepass touch) has some problems, its accessible, but not well
maintained.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:15:23 -0400,
Alan Lemly wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> [2  <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> Norma,
>

>
> Sorry about being a bit late to the party.
>

>
> I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:
>

>
> https://keepass.info/download.html
>

>
> It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:
>

>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download
>

>
> If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't
> have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.
>

>
> Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:
>

>
> https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/
>

>
> The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.
>

>
> Alan Lemly
>

>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
>

>
> Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma
>

>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:49 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
>

>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>
https://www.pwsafe.org/
>
> Seconded in a big way.   It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do.   Any change I make to my password
> safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result.
>
> And you can't beat free and accessible.   Password Safe and its ports don't have every one of the flashy bells and whistles of some commercial products, but it's way more than sufficient for my needs and does have quite a few bells and
> whistles that I don't use.

> --
>
> Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 
>
> Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.
>
>          ~ Eric Hoffer
>
>

--
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@...




moderated Re: password manager

DJ
 

Try keepass. And keepass touch for mobile devices. Take note of the spelling of the apps name.


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:41 PM G. Gray <geogray@...> wrote:
I have not found a good one.  I use notepad and put site title, web, user name and password in a text file.    I use * to help with a search!  It only takes seconds to find what I am looking for and I don’t have to worry about hacking....works for me and it’s reliable.
 

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019

John Covici
 

Yes.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:59:39 -0400,
Mario wrote:

John, is that mode called speech on demand?

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 4:33 AM
Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019
If you hit jaws-space and then s, it will go into a mode where it only
speaks if you hit one of the reading keys, if you then hit jaws-space
and s, normal speech will come back.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:56:36 -0400,
William Windels wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hello,



I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting.

I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but
this seems not to work.



Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific
situation?

Kind regards

William Windels



William Windels



Incident Manager SWF

02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag)









--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated password manager

G. Gray
 

I have not found a good one.  I use notepad and put site title, web, user name and password in a text file.    I use * to help with a search!  It only takes seconds to find what I am looking for and I don’t have to worry about hacking....works for me and it’s reliable.
 

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

Glenn / Lenny
 


Marty,
Did you mention that they were in one of the folders?
Try copying them from one program files to the other.
I don't think it will do anything either way.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

I am at a los here.  I just cannot get these folders to appear in the FS folder.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 

I have Windows set to always show hidden files, so I guess I wasn’t really sure – but those attributes do not seem to be active in the files in my utilities directory, at least.

 

BTW I don’t know what files you are looking for specifically, but you will also have files in your username\appdata\roaming directory. Your settings will be there, for instance.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 16, 2019 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Could some of the files be hidden some how?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there are only 2 items.  If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was created.

Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?

On mine, both have more than two folders.

The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book.

Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

This is the case.  There are 2 Program Files folders and the second one has X86 after.  There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one, but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub folders in it.  Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Hi Marty,

My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on it.

On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there are two Program File folders in the root of C:.

There is one that has (x86) after it, and there should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are looking for.

HTH.

BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit computer.

If you don't have both Program Files folders, then your windows is 32 bit.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:05 PM

Subject: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer.  Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?


moderated Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

Marty Hutchings
 

I am at a los here.  I just cannot get these folders to appear in the FS folder.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 

I have Windows set to always show hidden files, so I guess I wasn’t really sure – but those attributes do not seem to be active in the files in my utilities directory, at least.

 

BTW I don’t know what files you are looking for specifically, but you will also have files in your username\appdata\roaming directory. Your settings will be there, for instance.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 16, 2019 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Could some of the files be hidden some how?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there are only 2 items.  If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was created.

Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?

On mine, both have more than two folders.

The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book.

Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

This is the case.  There are 2 Program Files folders and the second one has X86 after.  There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one, but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub folders in it.  Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Hi Marty,

My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on it.

On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there are two Program File folders in the root of C:.

There is one that has (x86) after it, and there should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are looking for.

HTH.

BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit computer.

If you don't have both Program Files folders, then your windows is 32 bit.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:05 PM

Subject: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer.  Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?


moderated Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers

John Covici
 

I was using keepass, but it no longer works on the mac and the ios
client (keepass touch) has some problems, its accessible, but not well
maintained.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:15:23 -0400,
Alan Lemly wrote:

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Norma,



Sorry about being a bit late to the party.



I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:



https://keepass.info/download.html



It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:



https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download



If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't
have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.



Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:



https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/



The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers



Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers



On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote:

https://www.pwsafe.org/

Seconded in a big way. It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do. Any change I make to my password
safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result.

And you can't beat free and accessible. Password Safe and its ports don't have every one of the flashy bells and whistles of some commercial products, but it's way more than sufficient for my needs and does have quite a few bells and
whistles that I don't use.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

~ Eric Hoffer

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Question about the yearly payment plan for JAWS

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I will most likely keep buying the SMA, Which is now $150. unless I get to liking NVDA enough to switch.


moderated New Vocalizer Expressive 3.3 voices for JAWS

Samuel Villa <Saleena81@...>
 

I have a question.

Do any of you guys know what languages and voices for the latest version of Vocalizer Expressive for JAWS is If you are using Vocalizer Expressive, please give me a list of languages and voices that the new version of Vocalizer supports. Thanks!


moderated Beta 3 J2020.1910.37 Download Link + More

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
 Below is the download link for J2020.1910.37 Beta 3 and what's new in this release + a shortcut link to the Beta report form.
 
32 & 64 bit:
 
 
What's New:
 
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
Updated BraillePen Display Driver
 
Added an updated driver from Harpo in Poland to support their New BraillePen 14 Braille device in addition to the previously supported BraillePen 12T.
Now, all models are supported by this driver.
 
Other Changes
list of 5 items
• The new "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs" option in Settings Center is now turned on by default.
• JAWS now announces the currently selected menu in Google Docs when you activate a menu or use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between menus.
• JAWS now indicates list items markers in Google Docs. For example, if your document contains a numbered list, you should hear "1, 2, 3," and so on as
you navigate the list.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS stopped responding when moving over a link in a Word document and a Braille display was connected.
• In Adobe Reader, when moving between pages in a document , addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS was skipping the first line of the new page.
list end
 
Beta Report Form Link:
 
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Every man should marry.  After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.


moderated Beta 3 J2020.1910.37 Download Link + More

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
 Below is the download link for J2020.1910.37 Beta 3 and what's new in this release + a shortcut link to the Beta report form.
 
32 & 64 bit:
 
 
What's New:
 
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
Updated BraillePen Display Driver
 
Added an updated driver from Harpo in Poland to support their New BraillePen 14 Braille device in addition to the previously supported BraillePen 12T.
Now, all models are supported by this driver.
 
Other Changes
list of 5 items
• The new "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs" option in Settings Center is now turned on by default.
• JAWS now announces the currently selected menu in Google Docs when you activate a menu or use LEFT and RIGHT ARROW to move between menus.
• JAWS now indicates list items markers in Google Docs. For example, if your document contains a numbered list, you should hear "1, 2, 3," and so on as
you navigate the list.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS stopped responding when moving over a link in a Word document and a Braille display was connected.
• In Adobe Reader, when moving between pages in a document , addressed a customer reported issue where JAWS was skipping the first line of the new page.
list end
 
Beta Report Form Link:
 
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Every man should marry.  After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.


moderated Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

JM Casey
 

I have Windows set to always show hidden files, so I guess I wasn’t really sure – but those attributes do not seem to be active in the files in my utilities directory, at least.

 

BTW I don’t know what files you are looking for specifically, but you will also have files in your username\appdata\roaming directory. Your settings will be there, for instance.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 16, 2019 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Could some of the files be hidden some how?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there are only 2 items.  If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was created.

Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?

On mine, both have more than two folders.

The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book.

Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

This is the case.  There are 2 Program Files folders and the second one has X86 after.  There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one, but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub folders in it.  Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

Hi Marty,

My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on it.

On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there are two Program File folders in the root of C:.

There is one that has (x86) after it, and there should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are looking for.

HTH.

BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit computer.

If you don't have both Program Files folders, then your windows is 32 bit.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:05 PM

Subject: The Freedom Scientific folder

 

I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer.  Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?


moderated Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

Glenn / Lenny
 


That is possible, I always have mine set to show all system and hidden files.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

Could some of the files be hidden some how?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there are only 2 items.  If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was created.
Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?
On mine, both have more than two folders.
The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book.
Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.
 
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
This is the case.  There are 2 Program Files folders and the second one has X86 after.  There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one, but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub folders in it.  Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
Hi Marty,
My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on it.
On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there are two Program File folders in the root of C:.
There is one that has (x86) after it, and there should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are looking for.
HTH.
BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit computer.
If you don't have both Program Files folders, then your windows is 32 bit.
 
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: The Freedom Scientific folder

I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer.  Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?


moderated Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

Glenn / Lenny
 


That is odd, perhaps it got installed in a sub folder inside Program Files.
You could search for folders with the word Freedom and see if you can find it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder

The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there are only 2 items.  If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was created.
Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?
On mine, both have more than two folders.
The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book.
Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.
 
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
This is the case.  There are 2 Program Files folders and the second one has X86 after.  There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one, but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub folders in it.  Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
 
Hi Marty,
My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on it.
On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there are two Program File folders in the root of C:.
There is one that has (x86) after it, and there should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are looking for.
HTH.
BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit computer.
If you don't have both Program Files folders, then your windows is 32 bit.
 
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: The Freedom Scientific folder

I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer.  Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?

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