Date   

Re: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

 

I can't speak to anything in Adobe Pro.  It really is important to do as you've done and identify the exact Adobe product that's being used.

I made the mistake of assuming Reader DC when responding to the original questioner, and this may not be the case.
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Re: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

tele1974@...
 

So I am referring to the digital signature, not the electronic signature.  I'm using jaws 18 and the latest adobe pro version.  Hoping there is some way around this,
Kurt
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Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Hope Williamson <ladyhope@...>
 

It's up to the various apps to support it. i'm sure that Lyre might look into it if you contact them. Also it probably works well on a phone, since it has a mobile version. I only use web-based RSS readers, so I have absolutely no need for this.


Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Cristóbal
 

I may give it a spin, but briefly checking, it doesn’t' seem to work with iOS RSS apps. This for me would be a deal breaker since I also use Lire on my iPhone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 2:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Yeah, it's what I use now.


locked Re: Off-Topic: On NVDA Chat forum - Survey evaluation of learning experience in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals

James Homuth
 

Locking this thread. Will leave it up as a courtesy, but please be mindful of rule 2.

James,
List Admin


Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Hope Williamson <ladyhope@...>
 

Yeah, it's what I use now.


Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

James Homuth
 

Are you using that one now?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson
Sent: March-05-19 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

I used The Old Reader for quite a while and did fairly well with it. I do have to say that my absolute favorite is https://simplerssreader.com


locked Off-Topic: On NVDA Chat forum - Survey evaluation of learning experience in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals

 

Hello All,

          If you all had a chat forum I would have posted this in it, but since you don't I'm making a rare exception of posting an off-topic message anywhere

A graduate student from Eastern Europe has asked to post a survey for those who are blind or visually impaired, and who use (or have used) screen readers in the context of higher education on the NVDA Chat Forum.  Since I know how difficult it is to find respondents for niche surveys such as this, I am posting a pointer to it here for those who may be interested in learning more, and perhaps participating:

             Survey evaluation of learning experience in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals

The survey is being done through surveymonkey, so one need not even join the NVDA Chat group to read the message if you click through on the link above and the link to the actual survey itself is in that message.  I will post nothing further regarding this survey.

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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

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Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Hope Williamson <ladyhope@...>
 

I used The Old Reader for quite a while and did fairly well with it. I do have to say that my absolute favorite is https://simplerssreader.com


Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Cristóbal
 

The Old reader is web based and thus can be accessed from any machine or browser. www.theoldreader.com

You don’t have to worry about losing all your RSS feeds being lost if your machine dies or if somehow the browser gets corrupted or anything like that. For me, The Old Reader has proven to be the best solution and is quite accessible. To each their own, but I’d be reluctant to recommend IE since the browser itself is getting stale and is at the end of its development lifecycle. I doubt it would be a prudent choice to further tie oneself  to anything IE related at this point. Also, I did at one time use the IE built in RSS feature and while it was accessible enough, from what I recall, it wasn’t anything special.

The Old Reader has free and paid options.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anders Boholdt-Petersen
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Again, and thanks for the answer.

One of my friends have problems on his computer, where Internet Explorer not will startup at the time I write you. Therefore I looking after another RSS-reader.

What is the best accessible RSS-reader that I install on Windows itself with JAWS 2019?

Regards,
Anders


question about web apps?

Jessica D
 

Hi,

 

I’m sorry if this is off topic for this list, but I don’t know of any list I’m on, where I could ask this.

 

I found an app for podcasts, called Pocketcasts, which works quite nicely with jaws2019.

 

My question is, can you download stuff from a web app?

 

Can I download episodes, like I can with the ios app?

Any info on this topic would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Mario
 

Steve, in Windows 7, thumbnails and the preview pane have been disabled
already but he still gets the problem 5 or 6 times out of 10 times using
explorer, sometimes the task manager, and sometimes browsers and other
programs. is there other things he can do to lessen the occurances of
this problem?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Steve Nutt [mailto:steve@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 4:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Hi,

For Windows 7 especially, go into Explorer and disable thumbnails and
the preview pane.  You will find not only will it reduce these problems,
but accessing files is much speedier.

All the best

Steve

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* 04 March 2019 16:56
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not
responding

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious.   If a
shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent
basis, that is my suggested fix.  I get "not responding" not
infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task
manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with
Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to
fix it.
--

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/*   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.*/

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Sieghard!

 

Your below is interesting.  However, for me when I follow these steps I end up hearing a series of "try" commands.  What are those?  I do not hear the option button about new features.  I wonder if my hearing these "try" commands means that I have the new features option turned-on?  Perhaps an alt+u would toggle them off?  What do you think?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Hi Steve,

 

Have you checked if the "Coming Soon" feature in Outlook is turned off?

When you are in your Inbox press the Alt key to bring up the ribbon menu, you should be on "Home", now left arrow twice, here is Jaws History:

 

I press the Alt key and here this:

Upper Ribbon, Ribbon, Home Tab, Alt followed by H I press the left arrow once and here this:

Leaving menus, File Tab Button, Alt followed by F I press the left arrow a second time and here this:

Ribbon Tabs Tab expanded, Turn on features coming soon Button, Alt followed by U

 

As you can see Alt followed by U is the shortcut, but that will just toggle it and not tell you if it's on or off.

If it says " Turn on features coming soon" then it is off and your problem is a different one.

But if you hear Turn off features coming soon Button checked" then it is on and you can turn this off by pressing the spacebar.

Note that whether you turn it on or off Jaws will focus on an "OK" button and the message which it seems you can only read with the touch cursor is simply this:

 

You must restart this application for the changes to take effect.

OK

 

So go ahead and press OK, then close Outlook completely, wait a few seconds and reopen it, now try to see if you can read those fields with the shortcut keys.

I suggest this should be turned off, if it is on you may get upcoming features which could cause issues like this before Vispero and/or Microsoft has time to make any necessary changes.

I certainly also don't have any issues with Alt + 1, Alt + 2 and so on reading the From, To, CC etc. Fields.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:03 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for that.  I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus.  I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers.  The correct script is loading too.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C

Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Hi bro,

I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280"

I am able to  read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues.

Please verify the focus once the message opens.

if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws.

 

 

On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message,

> pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date

> fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?

> All the best

> Steve

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Re: best version of outlook

 

I don’t know about group conversations, but in my view you will probably get the best results with the subscription version of Outlook which you get if you subscribe to Office 365. Jaws 2019 now separates the scripts for this version of Office which includes Outlook from the so-called retail version which would be the one where you buy Office for a one-time purchase price. The scripts for the subscription version will get the most attention and get  updated the most going forward.

Keep in mind that it’s a big step from Outlook 2010 to the subscription version, not all of it is good, but as far as I am concerned Office/Outlook 2010 is not something you can use forever so you might as well get used to the new Office. One thing for me which was a big deal and which started with Outlook 2013 was the fact that I can set up my Outlook.com account without first having to download this old Hotmail Connector or whatever it was called. Starting with Outlook 2013 there is native support for Exchange Active Sync so all you have to do if you use an Outlook.com account is to enter your email address and password and it just configures itself, all your emails, contacts and so on sync to the cloud and if you use Outlook on another computer or set up your account in the Mail app on an iPhone it all works seamlessly.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 2:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: best version of outlook

 

Hello,

I use now outlook 2010 on a win10 computer with jaws/18/2018/2019

 

IN thsi version, grouped amil-conversations doesn’t work with any of this jaws versions : this is a outlook problem.

 

Which version of outlook is the best with jaws and can handle grouped conversations as expected?

 

Thx for any suggestions

 

Met vriendelijke groeten

William Windels

 

Incident Manager SWO

02/506 0 487 (niet bereikbaar op maandag en vrijdag)

 


Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Alt + U does toggle it as I said, but if you want to check if it's on or not in the first place pressing the Alt key and arrowing left twice will give you that info. I actually think it might be on by default so it's something everybody who uses Office 365 should check since having this on to me is not worth it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Wow, how did you figure that one out? Hats off to you my friend, that fixed it.

Thank you so much.

Just a quick tip, you can literally press Alt, followed by U to turn it on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 04 March 2019 17:13
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi Steve,

Have you checked if the "Coming Soon" feature in Outlook is turned off?
When you are in your Inbox press the Alt key to bring up the ribbon menu, you should be on "Home", now left arrow twice, here is Jaws History:

I press the Alt key and here this:
Upper Ribbon, Ribbon, Home Tab, Alt followed by H I press the left arrow once and here this:
Leaving menus, File Tab Button, Alt followed by F I press the left arrow a second time and here this:
Ribbon Tabs Tab expanded, Turn on features coming soon Button, Alt followed by U

As you can see Alt followed by U is the shortcut, but that will just toggle it and not tell you if it's on or off.
If it says " Turn on features coming soon" then it is off and your problem is a different one.
But if you hear Turn off features coming soon Button checked" then it is on and you can turn this off by pressing the spacebar.
Note that whether you turn it on or off Jaws will focus on an "OK" button and the message which it seems you can only read with the touch cursor is simply this:

You must restart this application for the changes to take effect.
OK

So go ahead and press OK, then close Outlook completely, wait a few seconds and reopen it, now try to see if you can read those fields with the shortcut keys.
I suggest this should be turned off, if it is on you may get upcoming features which could cause issues like this before Vispero and/or Microsoft has time to make any necessary changes.
I certainly also don't have any issues with Alt + 1, Alt + 2 and so on reading the From, To, CC etc. Fields.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi,

Thanks for that. I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus. I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers. The correct script is loading too.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi bro,
I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280"
I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues.
Please verify the focus once the message opens.
if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws.


On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Hi all,



Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message,
pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date
fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?



All the best



Steve



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Stevenage

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Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

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----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


best version of outlook

William Windels
 

Hello,

I use now outlook 2010 on a win10 computer with jaws/18/2018/2019

 

IN thsi version, grouped amil-conversations doesn’t work with any of this jaws versions : this is a outlook problem.

 

Which version of outlook is the best with jaws and can handle grouped conversations as expected?

 

Thx for any suggestions

 

Met vriendelijke groeten

William Windels

 

Incident Manager SWO

02/506 0 487 (niet bereikbaar op maandag en vrijdag)

 


Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Steve Nutt
 

Wow, how did you figure that one out? Hats off to you my friend, that fixed it.

Thank you so much.

Just a quick tip, you can literally press Alt, followed by U to turn it on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 04 March 2019 17:13
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi Steve,

Have you checked if the "Coming Soon" feature in Outlook is turned off?
When you are in your Inbox press the Alt key to bring up the ribbon menu, you should be on "Home", now left arrow twice, here is Jaws History:

I press the Alt key and here this:
Upper Ribbon, Ribbon, Home Tab, Alt followed by H I press the left arrow once and here this:
Leaving menus, File Tab Button, Alt followed by F I press the left arrow a second time and here this:
Ribbon Tabs Tab expanded, Turn on features coming soon Button, Alt followed by U

As you can see Alt followed by U is the shortcut, but that will just toggle it and not tell you if it's on or off.
If it says " Turn on features coming soon" then it is off and your problem is a different one.
But if you hear Turn off features coming soon Button checked" then it is on and you can turn this off by pressing the spacebar.
Note that whether you turn it on or off Jaws will focus on an "OK" button and the message which it seems you can only read with the touch cursor is simply this:

You must restart this application for the changes to take effect.
OK

So go ahead and press OK, then close Outlook completely, wait a few seconds and reopen it, now try to see if you can read those fields with the shortcut keys.
I suggest this should be turned off, if it is on you may get upcoming features which could cause issues like this before Vispero and/or Microsoft has time to make any necessary changes.
I certainly also don't have any issues with Alt + 1, Alt + 2 and so on reading the From, To, CC etc. Fields.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi,

Thanks for that. I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus. I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers. The correct script is loading too.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi bro,
I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280"
I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues.
Please verify the focus once the message opens.
if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws.


On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Hi all,



Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message,
pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date
fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?



All the best



Steve



--

Computer Room Services

77 Exeter Close

Stevenage

Hertfordshire

SG1 4PW

Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

Email: <mailto:steve@...> steve@...

Web: <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> http://www.comproom.co.uk







--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

For Windows 7 especially, go into Explorer and disable thumbnails and the preview pane.  You will find not only will it reduce these problems, but accessing files is much speedier.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 March 2019 16:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious.   If a shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent basis, that is my suggested fix.  I get "not responding" not infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to fix it.
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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Steve Nutt
 

I hate fast start up with a passion.  It causes more problems than it solves.

 

Especially if you have an SSD, just turn it off.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 March 2019 16:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

And, if you have Fast Startup enabled, you must do a Restart, not a Shutdown followed by power up cycle, to get the computer to reload Windows 10 from disc from scratch rather than using the system hibernation file employed by Fast Startup.

If you don't, then either a Restart or a Shutdown followed by power up will give you a fresh loading of Windows 10 off of disc.
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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

 

There needs to be a clear distinction made here between an electronic signature, which is essentially embedding a scanned copy of someone's signature into a PDF at a specific location, and a digital signature, which has no "looks like a person's real signature" component at all but is generally legally binding.

I've just gone through trying to add both with Adobe Reader DC and have to report that I can find no way to do either with a screen reader.  Adobe has made a massive step back in accessibility with Reader DC.   I must admit, though, that I did not try NVDA's object navigation to try to get to the controls, and that at least has the potential to work, but may not, either.

If you are actually the signatory and want an electronic signature, then I'd strongly suggest that you set up the template you use to create the review in the first place such that your electronic signature is already in it.  If you have control over the electronic copy of the template, as well as the documents generated from it, this is a workable solution.
--

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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore