Date   

Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

I couldn’t find anything about turning off enhancements, but I did try to roll back my sound card driver.

 

And, rolling back the sound card driver did not make any difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

 

This has nothing to do with Jaws but is a soundcard driver issue or maybe some setting for your soundcard got turned on. You should go to your soundcard properties and make sure all enhancements are turned off, this can be called all sorts of things by various manufacturers, just take a look and it should be relatively obvious. If that doesn’t help you may need to roll back your soundcard driver.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:28 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.

 

Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.

 

Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

netbat66
 

it won't show the name of the card. it says something like digital speakers and default for the one that is being used. then click on properties.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update


Hi Tom,

Try the following:
1. Open the Control Panel, go to the Sounds link and press enter.
2. Control + Tab to Playback devices and select the Realtech soundcard.
3. Tab to, Properties, and press the spacebar and Control + Tab to the Enhancements page / tab. Here's where you'll find what you're looking for.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Hello.

I have not yet found out how to turn off all sound enhancements, but will keep looking.

If anyone has suggestions as to where to find this option under sound card settings, please let me know.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

try checking your sound card settings. most windows versions have an option to turn off all sound enhancements. this will improve speech clarity. but this will also remove a lot of base when playing music.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update



Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds
rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Mike B
 


Hi Tom,
 
Try the following:
1. Open the Control Panel, go to the Sounds link and press enter.
2. Control + Tab to Playback devices and select the Realtech soundcard.
3. Tab to, Properties, and press the spacebar and Control + Tab to the Enhancements page / tab.  Here's where you'll find what you're looking for.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Hello.

I have not yet found out how to turn off all sound enhancements, but will keep looking.

If anyone has suggestions as to where to find this option under sound card settings, please let me know.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

try checking your sound card settings. most windows versions have an option to turn off all sound enhancements. this will improve speech clarity. but this will also remove a lot of base when playing music.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update



Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds
rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler





 








Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Tom Behler
 

Hello.

I have not yet found out how to turn off all sound enhancements, but will keep looking.

If anyone has suggestions as to where to find this option under sound card settings, please let me know.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

try checking your sound card settings. most windows versions have an option to turn off all sound enhancements. this will improve speech clarity. but this will also remove a lot of base when playing music.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update



Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds
rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler


Re: Sage 50

John Covici
 

quickbooks.

On Wed, 08 May 2019 17:23:57 -0400,
Ann Byrne wrote:

Scripts for Sage or for Quick books???
At 10:32 AM 5/8/2019, you wrote:
The desktop app should do what you want, at least the transaction
entry is accessible, provided you get the scripts from myblindspot.org
.

On Wed, 08 May 2019 11:10:10 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago
about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to
get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make
Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still
do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would
like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my
bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours
retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this
myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of
transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don$B!G(Bt use
my accounting software for customers and to keep track of
individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does
that,
but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and
process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit
card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a
week I enter the sales into the accounting system
using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system
[prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns,
layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was
received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express,
Cash,
Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted
suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but
in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter
the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we
all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to
typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50
currently still is the better and more efficient solution
although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at
some point in the next year or two.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



Hi,



And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I
have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.



All the best

Steve



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back
of my hand because I have been using it and its previous
version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things you have to do with the Jaws cursor,
sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are
generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility
display driver which is still the default. The new so-called
$B!H(BGDI Hooking$B!I(B method reads more in Sage, for
example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases
journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then
I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I
don$B!G(Bt use the
accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor
only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by
bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by
$B!H(BO$B!I(B which is the command to $B!H(BOpen in
Excel$B!I(B. It will ask
you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads
whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do
a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for
something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is
where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank
Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals
etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times
for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7
times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times
for payments.

Somebody who wasn$B!G(Bt as familiar with the program and who
tried to use it for the first time would probably be very
frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven$B!G(Bt upgraded because I was sick and tired of
paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called
support which I never use and to get a new version which
essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used
to
use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice
because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax
tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a
payroll service called Payworks where all we have to
do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the
rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages
are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks
does the monthly payments to the government for
employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax
deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of
Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian
Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a
pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think
$11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee
for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not
invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend
Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done
a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly
subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop
version you do have to pay for scripts which some company
developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their
software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with
anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:



Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: @ted_drake

Twitter: @ted_drake





Best regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50



Hi Sieghard!



I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.
How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?



Thanks,

Richard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New



I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several
Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often
go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some
issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the
fact that I can$B!G(Bt read some stuff with the Jaws
cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but
strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and
while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the
drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely
rare.

I guess everybody$B!G(Bs system is different, I do have a
high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC$B!G(Bs we use
there are mini PC$B!G(Bs, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and
an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini
PC$B!G(Bs, one has
an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the
I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM
is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I
certainly would never buy an I3 again..



Regards,

Sieghard

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


Re: Sage 50

Ann Byrne
 

Scripts for Sage or for Quick books???

At 10:32 AM 5/8/2019, you wrote:
The desktop app should do what you want, at least the transaction
entry is accessible, provided you get the scripts from myblindspot.org
.

On Wed, 08 May 2019 11:10:10 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about
Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still
do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to
switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this
myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of
transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don$B!G(Bt use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that,
but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process
payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system
using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system
[prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash,
Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted
suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we
all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to
typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at
some point in the next year or two.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



Hi,



And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have
brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.



All the best

Steve



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of
my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes
the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called
$B!H(BGDI Hooking$B!I(B method reads more in Sage, for example,
if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don$B!G(Bt use the
accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only
reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by $B!H(BO$B!I(B which is the command to $B!H(BOpen in Excel$B!I(B. It will ask
you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads
whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where
you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times
for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times
for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn$B!G(Bt as familiar with the program and who
tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven$B!G(Bt upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying
them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to
use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice
because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to
do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest.
A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for
employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax
deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a
pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think
$11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not
invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly
subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version
you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with
anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:



Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: @ted_drake

Twitter: @ted_drake





Best regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50



Hi Sieghard!



I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting
2014. How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?



Thanks,

Richard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New



I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google
Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go
weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can$B!G(Bt read some stuff with the Jaws
cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but
strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely
rare.

I guess everybody$B!G(Bs system is different, I do have a
high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC$B!G(Bs we use there are mini PC$B!G(Bs, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC$B!G(Bs, one has
an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3
system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..



Regards,

Sieghard

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


Re: Sage 50

Cristóbal
 

Oh yeah, my bad.

She’s sighted using an old version of QuickBooks. Something like 2010. It works well enough for her and sees no interest to upgrade for the simple purpose of just upgrading. Much less for a monthly fee when the fully paid version is still chugging along. Numbers are still numbers at the end of the day.

She handles my language interpreting agency accounting as well as our e-commerce stuff with QB.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Hi Cristóbal!

 

About your below, does your wife use the online or the desktop version of QB?  Is she sighted or not?  If she is using the online version and is not sighted, how accessible is it?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

My wife handles our business accounting with Quickbooks, but in addition to these options, I believe there’s also Cash Manager that’s supposed to be accessible.

https://cashmanager.io/us/accessibility

I remember many many moons ago, a Cash Manager rep even popped up on one of these lists to discuss accessibility.

Anyway, another option for those who may be interested.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don’t use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that, but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash, Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at some point in the next year or two.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Hi,

 

And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things  you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called “GDI Hooking” method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don’t use the accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by “O” which is the command to “Open in Excel”. It will ask you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn’t as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven’t upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:

 

Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: ted_drake@...

Twitter: @ted_drake

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50

 

Hi Sieghard!

 

I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.  How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New

 

I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can’t read some stuff with the Jaws cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely rare.

I guess everybody’s system is different, I do have a high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC’s we use there are mini PC’s, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC’s, one has an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..

 

Regards,

Sieghard


Re: Sage 50

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Cristóbal!

 

About your below, does your wife use the online or the desktop version of QB?  Is she sighted or not?  If she is using the online version and is not sighted, how accessible is it?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

My wife handles our business accounting with Quickbooks, but in addition to these options, I believe there’s also Cash Manager that’s supposed to be accessible.

https://cashmanager.io/us/accessibility

I remember many many moons ago, a Cash Manager rep even popped up on one of these lists to discuss accessibility.

Anyway, another option for those who may be interested.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don’t use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that, but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash, Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at some point in the next year or two.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Hi,

 

And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things  you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called “GDI Hooking” method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don’t use the accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by “O” which is the command to “Open in Excel”. It will ask you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn’t as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven’t upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:

 

Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: ted_drake@...

Twitter: @ted_drake

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50

 

Hi Sieghard!

 

I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.  How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New

 

I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can’t read some stuff with the Jaws cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely rare.

I guess everybody’s system is different, I do have a high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC’s we use there are mini PC’s, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC’s, one has an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..

 

Regards,

Sieghard


Re: Sage 50

Cristóbal
 

My wife handles our business accounting with Quickbooks, but in addition to these options, I believe there’s also Cash Manager that’s supposed to be accessible.

https://cashmanager.io/us/accessibility

I remember many many moons ago, a Cash Manager rep even popped up on one of these lists to discuss accessibility.

Anyway, another option for those who may be interested.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don’t use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that, but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash, Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at some point in the next year or two.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Hi,

 

And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things  you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called “GDI Hooking” method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don’t use the accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by “O” which is the command to “Open in Excel”. It will ask you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn’t as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven’t upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:

 

Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: ted_drake@...

Twitter: @ted_drake

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50

 

Hi Sieghard!

 

I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.  How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New

 

I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can’t read some stuff with the Jaws cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely rare.

I guess everybody’s system is different, I do have a high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC’s we use there are mini PC’s, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC’s, one has an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..

 

Regards,

Sieghard


Re: Excel not speaking the first digit when a number is entered

Van Lant, Robin
 

There is a quick keyboard way to also maximize a child window in Excel, but I’m blanking on it.  I’m not thinking this is the issue this person is dealing with, but I’ll share the keyboard command as soon as I can recall it. I think it’s Alt then the minus or hyphen  on the number row, but I cannot test it until I find an Excel file that needs to be maximized.  For me, this usually only occurs when I download a report from a tool here at work. 

 

Robin

A

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel not speaking the first digit when a number is entered

 

Hello

this rather makes think about something related to unusual view mode where Jaws is lost. It is like the main sheet window is too small. Theb try the following:

Press Windows key+Up arrow to maximize Excel main window. If that doesn't fix the issue then:

Press Insertion+numpad Minus to bring the Jaws cursor to your sheet,

then with arrow keys, place it to the title of your document on the top and press numpad slash twice in order to emulate double-click. This would expand the window of current sheet.

 

cheers

Tanguy

Le 06/05/2019 à 17:50, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io a écrit :

Wow, I haven't seen any of this behavior in Excel.   There are certainly configuration differences with whether users have JAWS set to read contents, cell coordinates, or both, but this is different.  Wish I had an idea for you.   Maybe temporarily use JAWS default settings to see if the issue is resolved.  Use the layered command of JAWS key spacebar, then z.   
 
 
 
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Subject: Excel not speaking the first digit when a number is entered
 
Excel 2016; JAWS 2019, windows 10.
 
When I type a number into a cel and press tab, JAWS speaks all the 
digits except the first one.  So '23' becomes '3', "2003' 
becomes  "003", '2203' becomes '203', and so on.  Am I the only one 
experiencing this?
 
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Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

netbat66
 

try checking your sound card settings. most windows versions have an option to turn off all sound enhancements. this will improve speech clarity. but this will also remove a lot of base when playing music.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:27 AM
To: jfw list
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update



Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Chris Hill
 

Could always roll back sound card driver in device manager.

On May 8, 2019, at 10:27, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

I


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Tom Behler
 

I did those steps, and nothing changed.

I think something got changed with the sound card.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

try unloading and reloading JAWS with an insert+f4 and spacebar, and then
starting JAWS. if that doesn't help, try rebooting the laptop.
any better?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 11:27 AM
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech
sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I'm using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Mario
 

try unloading and reloading JAWS with an insert+f4 and spacebar, and
then starting JAWS. if that doesn't help, try rebooting the laptop.
any better?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 11:27 AM
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Hello, everyone.



I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech
sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.



Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.



Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?



I'm using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.



Tom Behler


Re: Sage 50

 

Yes, but if I switch I want Quickbooks Online so I have access to my data from anywhere, I don't see much point switching from one traditional desktop application to another especially since despite a few small challenges or work-arounds Sage 50 works quite well for me. I believe the scripts for Quickbooks cost many hundreds of Dollars and that makes no sense to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

The desktop app should do what you want, at least the transaction entry is accessible, provided you get the scripts from myblindspot.org .

On Wed, 08 May 2019 11:10:10 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Absolutely, I had a
lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where
he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are
working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can
still do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like
to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who
came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years
ago now I decided I would do this myself and I am dealing with a
pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don't use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that, but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash, Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at some point in the next year or two.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



Hi,



And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.



All the best

Steve



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the
touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to
use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the
default. The new so-called "GDI Hooking" method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don't use the accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by "O" which is the command to "Open in Excel". It will ask you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you
select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn't as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven't upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them
hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I
never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different
than the previous one. I also used to use their payroll module and
during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested
in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an
accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:



Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: @ted_drake

Twitter: @ted_drake





Best regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50



Hi Sieghard!



I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014. How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?



Thanks,

Richard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New



I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome
tabs/windows open plus usually Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale
software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I
have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can't read some stuff with the Jaws cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely rare.

I guess everybody's system is different, I do have a high-end laptop
at home, but at work all 4 PC's we use there are mini PC's, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC's, one has an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..



Regards,

Sieghard

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

 

This has nothing to do with Jaws but is a soundcard driver issue or maybe some setting for your soundcard got turned on. You should go to your soundcard properties and make sure all enhancements are turned off, this can be called all sorts of things by various manufacturers, just take a look and it should be relatively obvious. If that doesn’t help you may need to roll back your soundcard driver.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 8:28 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.

 

Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.

 

Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


Re: Sage 50

John Covici
 

The desktop app should do what you want, at least the transaction
entry is accessible, provided you get the scripts from myblindspot.org
.

On Wed, 08 May 2019 11:10:10 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still
do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this
myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don’t use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that,
but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system
using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash,
Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we
all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at
some point in the next year or two.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



Hi,



And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.



All the best

Steve



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50



To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called
“GDI Hooking” method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don’t use the
accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by “O” which is the command to “Open in Excel”. It will ask
you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times
for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn’t as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven’t upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to
use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to
do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for
employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a
pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly
subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with
anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:



Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: @ted_drake

Twitter: @ted_drake





Best regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50



Hi Sieghard!



I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014. How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?



Thanks,

Richard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New



I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can’t read some stuff with the Jaws
cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely
rare.

I guess everybody’s system is different, I do have a high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC’s we use there are mini PC’s, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC’s, one has
an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..



Regards,

Sieghard

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


Re: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Michael Mote
 

Hi Tom.  If you know what type of sound card you have in your computer, you can update the drivers for that particular card.  Windows 0 is bad about changing the drivers to generic ones.  I had this happen to me just yesterday, and when I updated the drivers, things worked better for me.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 11:28 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.

 

Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.

 

Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


Distorted Jaws Speech After Dell Update

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just did a Dell update to my Windows 10 laptop, and now my Jaws speech sounds rather tinny and is very distorted.

 

Lowering the system volume does not lessen the distortion.

 

Is there anything I can do to solve this issue?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


Re: Sage 50

 

Absolutely, I had a lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks Online more and more accessible I can still do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few years ago now I decided I would do this myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don’t use my accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that, but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I enter the sales into the accounting system using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system [prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa, Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash, Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at some point in the next year or two.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

Hi,

 

And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

 

To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version, Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things  you have to do with the Jaws cursor, sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver which is still the default. The new so-called “GDI Hooking” method reads more in Sage, for example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don’t use the accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by “O” which is the command to “Open in Excel”. It will ask you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7 times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for payments.

Somebody who wasn’t as familiar with the program and who tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven’t upgraded because I was sick and tired of paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially was no different than the previous one. I also used to use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll service called Payworks where all we have to do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the monthly payments to the government for employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation for Independent Business and as such I get a pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think $11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their online solution which works via a monthly subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed. Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service you can call Aira for free to get help with anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:

 

Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: ted_drake@...

Twitter: @ted_drake

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50

 

Hi Sieghard!

 

I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.  How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New

 

I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I can’t read some stuff with the Jaws cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain, Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely rare.

I guess everybody’s system is different, I do have a high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC’s we use there are mini PC’s, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5 processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC’s, one has an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly would never buy an I3 again..

 

Regards,

Sieghard