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moderated Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

System Protection (whether under Windows 7, 8.1, or 10) is NOT a backup and recovery utility in any meaningful sense.  And it has a long history, as Glenn has indicated, of being flaky, at best, for what it's supposed to be good for - rolling back a recent change like the installation of a single program.

It is not even in the same class as a true backup and recovery suite.  I keep it turned on for the sake of convenience so if I need to do a very simple rollback I can try it, but I long ago learned that one should never count on System Protection being a robust system that works each and every time, or even close to it.

That's one of the reasons, among many, that taking full system images and separate user data backups is essential.  And if the data is really, really critical, either taking multiple backups or immediately copying off the latest local one to remote storage, away from the source material, so it's available in the event of fire, flood, or other natural disaster.  That may be overkill for most home users, but even some of them do this to have as much insurance in the event of a need for recovery as they can get.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Glenn / Lenny
 


I don't know if it's different in windows 10, but I've noticed that in windows 7 that the operating system only keeps a few of the backup points and it bumps out older backup points.
Someone I know has tried using system restore only to find that he could not go back as far as he wanted to in restoring his system.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 08:00 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Personally, I wouldn’t restore or backup an image, too much to go wrong, even on the same hardware.
To each his or her own.  I'd rather gnaw off my own fingers than set myself up to have to reconfigure a machine and all its software after a drive failure.

I think I've had one restore in over 30 years not work, so your assertion about "too much to go wrong" just doesn't hold water in my professional experience.  If these suites were commonly problematic, they'd have died out long, long ago.  They're generally very slick, easy, and, most importantly, fast at getting a machine right back on its feet to precisely the state it was in when the full system image backup was taken.

That being said, you bring up another good point is that in addition to full system image backups, one should also be taking separate user data backups.  The File History utility in Windows 10 is an excellent tool for this.  Most backup & recovery suites also include a function strictly for user data rather than full system images as well.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Word 2010 Opening Old Documents

 

You can't.

Normal.dot or Normal.dotm in newer versions is what is used when creating a blank document from scratch.  You can also, after having done so, reconfigure virtually everything in that document to be different, font, size, color, etc., etc., etc.

Documents carry their own attributes with them once they have been created.  No reference is made to Normal.dot(m) for an existing document.  Whatever it is you want changed is going to have to be changed on a document-by-document basis (unless there's a utility I don't know about for doing so in batch - but even then it won't be via anything related to Normal.dot(m)).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 08:00 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Personally, I wouldn’t restore or backup an image, too much to go wrong, even on the same hardware.
To each his or her own.  I'd rather gnaw off my own fingers than set myself up to have to reconfigure a machine and all its software after a drive failure.

I think I've had one restore in over 30 years not work, so your assertion about "too much to go wrong" just doesn't hold water in my professional experience.  If these suites were commonly problematic, they'd have died out long, long ago.  They're generally very slick, easy, and, most importantly, fast at getting a machine right back on its feet to precisely the state it was in when the full system image backup was taken.

That being said, you bring up another good point is that in addition to full system image backups, one should also be taking separate user data backups.  The File History utility in Windows 10 is an excellent tool for this.  Most backup & recovery suites also include a function strictly for user data rather than full system images as well.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Huawei B535

Shai
 

Hello,
I have not tried this particular router. I just set up a Nighthawk and
I found the interface to be somewhat problematic until I learned that
pressing enter will allow one to navigate around elements with JAWS
that do not have links. Also, some items are further down the page
than would be expected after pressing enter. Once I discovered this,
there had not been an issue in setting it up.

On 5/11/20, Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
have you tried the Huawei B535 with jaws?
I didn't like the interface so I bought a new router.
But I got problem with the nighthawk I wroute about earlier.
I think that the router I have works, but I can't use it at all.


--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934




moderated Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

Personally, I wouldn’t restore or backup an image, too much to go wrong, even on the same hardware.

 

I usually reset my PC and reinstall apps.  I can back up my personal data just using Windows, but since resetting a Windows 10 PC is now accessible completely, that’s what I do.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 03 May 2020 20:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

I would suggest those really interested in what's being discussed also look at the following two recent topics on other groups:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/73315213

Windows PE ISO file with NVDA installed
, specifically message, https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/73144, if you're looking to source versions of WinPE with NVDA built in.  The EXE files were created using Rufus based on what the original poster said to me when I asked.

For myself, I would not rely on any ZIP utility as my primary system image backup.  There is a reason that system image backup and recovery utilities, and many of them, exist to make the process easier and far more foolproof.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Word 2010 Opening Old Documents

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
Running J16 thru J2020 With Window 7 & 10 and Office / Word 2010.  What can I do, or how do I set my default settings so that old documents will open and read using the updated settings of the, Normal.dotm?  Thanks much.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.


moderated Re: Zoom and unable to close out

Marty Hutchings
 

Kevin,  Did you get an answer to your question? 
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Zoom and unable to close out
 

I think my sound card is part of the mother board. Is then even possible to add a second sound card?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom and unable to close out

 

I use 2 sound cards all the time

 

Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: Zoom and unable to close out

 

Next time, try this hotkey:

  • Ctrl+Alt+Shift: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls

As a host, it lands you on the end meeting button.

I suspect as a participant, it should land you on the leave meeting button.

This is where a braille display would help a lot.

 

I suppose you could try using two sound cards, but that is something I’ve never done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom and unable to close out

 

When I tabbed while in Zoom Jaws didn’t say anything. I had the volume turned all the way up as it was a virtual spin class. When class was over the instructor and other were still talking. Since the volume was so loud I couldn’t hear Jaws very well. I did press control, alt and delete to bring up task manager and once again because the volume was up and people were still talking I couldn’t tell if task manager was open. Even it was I wouldn’t been able to kill the zoom session as I couldn’t tell which task it was. Iwonderif there is a way to route Jaws to one speaker and the Zoom meeting to the other speaker.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom and unable to close out

 

Did you try to just close zoom, or did you click on the Leave meeting button?

My guess is you tried to close out without leaving the meeting, thus left yourself hung up in the meeting.

If that isn’t what happened, the only other thing I would have tried was using Task Manager to end the Zoom task.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Zoom and unable to close out

 

Hello, I’m using most recent version of Jaws 2020, windows and zoom. The other day I was on a Zoom call and when I tried to close out, Jaws was unable to read anything. I pressed alt F4 and still couldn’t get out of it. I pressed alt tab and nothing happen. I could still hear the people still on the call talking. The only thing I could do is a hard shut down. When I did this I heard a buzzing noise until the PC was shut down. What could have caused not being able to end call? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Huawei B535

Kristoffer Gustafsson
 

Hi.
have you tried the Huawei B535 with jaws?
I didn't like the interface so I bought a new router.
But I got problem with the nighthawk I wroute about earlier.
I think that the router I have works, but I can't use it at all.


--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934


moderated Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

David Pearson
 

Hi SB, et al:

Having trouble with receiving audio via a Logitech USB headset. I only want to use this headset for one specific program(keeping Jaws on externalspeakers for everything else(e-mails, google searches, etc

Where do I find this sound volume control? Believe that headset contains its own sound card.

Sincerely,

David S. Pearson -----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Bennett
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Hello

This suggestion might need sighted assistance or someone to Tandem into your system.
With the phones plugged in and Jaws running, have a look at all the Jaws entries in the Windows volume mixer. Make sure they're all turned up above fifty percent.

Good luck

SB

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've isolated this issue to one having to do with JAWS as I'm currently able to hear other audio out of my headphones. When I select the "headphones" in the JAWS "sound card" menu, I'm not able to hear JAWS audio.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've had odd things happen as a result of Windows updates regarding JAWS and the headphone output on one of my computers. Among things that have already been mentioned, check what sound card JAWS thinks it's using. On my system I have to set it to use something called "Speakers (external)". When I plug 'phones in, they work. There's also a speaker inside the computer. If I select that one--"speakers (internal)"--and plug 'phones in, nothing happens. It depends not just on what JAWS is set to use, but also what Windows thinks is its default audio device.
That can be found in Settings (Windows Key + I), type "sound" and press down-arrow until you hear "Sound settings," then tab through the dialog to discover how your system is set.


On 5/9/2020 9:11 PM, Cory McMahon wrote:
I’m using windows 10.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon


moderated Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Milton Ota
 

Hi Corey,

Glad to hear that you solved your problem.

Take care.

Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I feel so stupid: My JAWS volume was muted.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Hello Corey,

I don't think you ever mentioned whether its an HP, Dell, Lenovo or other brand with information on the type/kind of soundcard your computer has. Maybe if you give us a little more information you might get more responses.

Milton


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've isolated this issue to one having to do with JAWS as I'm currently able to hear other audio out of my headphones. When I select the "headphones" in the JAWS "sound card" menu, I'm not able to hear JAWS audio.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've had odd things happen as a result of Windows updates regarding JAWS and the headphone output on one of my computers. Among things that have already been mentioned, check what sound card JAWS thinks it's using. On my system I have to set it to use something called "Speakers (external)". When I plug 'phones in, they work. There's also a speaker inside the computer. If I select that one--"speakers (internal)"--and plug 'phones in, nothing happens. It depends not just on what JAWS is set to use, but also what Windows thinks is its default audio device.
That can be found in Settings (Windows Key + I), type "sound" and press down-arrow until you hear "Sound settings," then tab through the dialog to discover how your system is set.


On 5/9/2020 9:11 PM, Cory McMahon wrote:
I’m using windows 10.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon


moderated Re: sharing web page

Pramit
 

Hi Clarence,

If you want the share the article on your Timeline in facebook then you can simply copy the article link and paste that in facebook and that is it.
If you want to share it with someone in your friend list then you can use the messenger to share the link with that specific person.
To open facebook on your edge browser use the below link:

Hope this helps

Pramit 


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 6:04 AM clarence carter via groups.io <clcarter=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
I wanted to shre an article using the Facebook AP . I there a way that you can share a page with Edge? The AP that comes is not accessible. Can I get to the regular FAcebook page? 


moderated Re: sharing web page

clarence carter
 

I wanted to shre an article using the Facebook AP . I there a way that you can share a page with Edge? The AP that comes is not accessible. Can I get to the regular FAcebook page? 


moderated Re: Screen Share Tech Help

Don Mauck
 

Seeing AI might help as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Screen Share Tech Help

Aira is perfect for that kind of thing, they use teamviewer and you tell them what to do, they just give visual information.

On Mon, 11 May 2020 16:28:25 -0400,
Larry McMillan via groups.io wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
Does anyone know of a paid screen share service? I had a poor
experience with the Microsoft disability desk in which all of my
contacts were lost. I found out the next day from another Microsoft
tech. He was able to use my external drive to find some of my contacts.

Larry




[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Screen Share Tech Help

John Covici
 

Aira is perfect for that kind of thing, they use teamviewer and you
tell them what to do, they just give visual information.

On Mon, 11 May 2020 16:28:25 -0400,
Larry McMillan via groups.io wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
Does anyone know of a paid screen share service? I had a poor experience
with the Microsoft disability desk in which all of my contacts were lost. I
found out the next day from another Microsoft tech. He was able to use my
external drive to find some of my contacts.

Larry




[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Cory McMahon
 

I feel so stupid: My JAWS volume was muted.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Hello Corey,

I don't think you ever mentioned whether its an HP, Dell, Lenovo or other brand with information on the type/kind of soundcard your computer has. Maybe if you give us a little more information you might get more responses.

Milton


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've isolated this issue to one having to do with JAWS as I'm currently able to hear other audio out of my headphones. When I select the "headphones" in the JAWS "sound card" menu, I'm not able to hear JAWS audio.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've had odd things happen as a result of Windows updates regarding JAWS and the headphone output on one of my computers. Among things that have already been mentioned, check what sound card JAWS thinks it's using. On my system I have to set it to use something called "Speakers (external)". When I plug 'phones in, they work. There's also a speaker inside the computer. If I select that one--"speakers (internal)"--and plug 'phones in, nothing happens. It depends not just on what JAWS is set to use, but also what Windows thinks is its default audio device.
That can be found in Settings (Windows Key + I), type "sound" and press down-arrow until you hear "Sound settings," then tab through the dialog to discover how your system is set.


On 5/9/2020 9:11 PM, Cory McMahon wrote:
I’m using windows 10.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon


moderated Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Stephen Bennett
 

Hello

This suggestion might need sighted assistance or someone to Tandem into your system.
With the phones plugged in and Jaws running, have a look at all the Jaws entries in the Windows volume mixer. Make sure they're all turned up above fifty percent.

Good luck

SB

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've isolated this issue to one having to do with JAWS as I'm currently able to hear other audio out of my headphones. When I select the "headphones" in the JAWS "sound card" menu, I'm not able to hear JAWS audio.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've had odd things happen as a result of Windows updates regarding JAWS and the headphone output on one of my computers. Among things that have already been mentioned, check what sound card JAWS thinks it's using. On my system I have to set it to use something called "Speakers (external)". When I plug 'phones in, they work. There's also a speaker inside the computer. If I select that one--"speakers (internal)"--and plug 'phones in, nothing happens. It depends not just on what JAWS is set to use, but also what Windows thinks is its default audio device.
That can be found in Settings (Windows Key + I), type "sound" and press down-arrow until you hear "Sound settings," then tab through the dialog to discover how your system is set.


On 5/9/2020 9:11 PM, Cory McMahon wrote:
I’m using windows 10.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon


moderated Screen Share Tech Help

Larry McMillan
 

Does anyone know of a paid screen share service?  I had a poor experience with the Microsoft disability desk in which all of my contacts were lost.  I found out the next day from another Microsoft tech.  He was able to use my external drive to find some of my contacts.

Larry


moderated Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

Milton Ota
 

Hello Corey,

I don't think you ever mentioned whether its an HP, Dell, Lenovo or other brand with information on the type/kind of soundcard your computer has. Maybe if you give us a little more information you might get more responses.

Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've isolated this issue to one having to do with JAWS as I'm currently able to hear other audio out of my headphones. When I select the "headphones" in the JAWS "sound card" menu, I'm not able to hear JAWS audio.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 and not working with headphones

I've had odd things happen as a result of Windows updates regarding JAWS and the headphone output on one of my computers. Among things that have already been mentioned, check what sound card JAWS thinks it's using. On my system I have to set it to use something called "Speakers (external)". When I plug 'phones in, they work. There's also a speaker inside the computer. If I select that one--"speakers (internal)"--and plug 'phones in, nothing happens. It depends not just on what JAWS is set to use, but also what Windows thinks is its default audio device.
That can be found in Settings (Windows Key + I), type "sound" and press down-arrow until you hear "Sound settings," then tab through the dialog to discover how your system is set.


On 5/9/2020 9:11 PM, Cory McMahon wrote:
I’m using windows 10.

Sincerely,

Cory McMahon


moderated Re: Zoom and unable to close out

John Covici
 

What sound card is that? Is it the x-live card? I am not familiar
with it and it sounds like I might want to transition my screen reader
to an external sound card, if it works and Windows does not stop using
it randomly, which I have seen with some I have tried.

On Mon, 11 May 2020 13:55:25 -0400,
Steve Matzura wrote:

USB works, too. I use Zoom, TeamTalk, TeamSpeak, etc., and a
screenreader, all with my Behringer X32 and the X-Live card, each
on its own channel pair.


On 5/11/2020 12:29 PM, Mario wrote:
yes, it's possible.  make sure it's the correct type of
expansion card that the mobo supports (PCI, PCI Express, etc).

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2020, 12:21 PM
Subject: Zoom and unable to close out
I think my sound card is part of the mother board. Is then even possible
to add a second sound card?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Zoom and unable to close out

I use 2 sound cards all the time

*From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>

*Sent:*Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:49 AM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: Zoom and unable to close out

Next time, try this hotkey:

  * *Ctrl+Alt+Shift*: Move focus to Zoom's meeting controls

As a host, it lands you on the end meeting button.

I suspect as a participant, it should land you on the leave
meeting button.

This is where a braille display would help a lot.

I suppose you could try using two sound cards, but that is something
I’ve never done.

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*kevin meyers
*Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:54 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Zoom and unable to close out

When I tabbed while in Zoom Jaws didn’t say anything. I had the volume
turned all the way up as it was a virtual spin class. When class was
over the instructor and other were still talking. Since the volume was
so loud I couldn’t hear Jaws very well. I did press control, alt and
delete to bring up task manager and once again because the volume was up
and people were still talking I couldn’t tell if task manager was open.
Even it was I wouldn’t been able to kill the zoom session as I couldn’t
tell which task it was. Iwonderif there is a way to route Jaws to one
speaker and the Zoom meeting to the other speaker.

**

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Richard
Turner
*Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:34 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Zoom and unable to close out

Did you try to just close zoom, or did you click on the Leave meeting
button?

My guess is you tried to close out without leaving the meeting, thus
left yourself hung up in the meeting.

If that isn’t what happened, the only other thing I would have tried was
using Task Manager to end the Zoom task.

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
Oregon.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*kevin meyers
*Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:29 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Zoom and unable to close out

Hello, I’m using most recent version of Jaws2020, windows and zoom. The
other day I was on a Zoom call and when I tried to close out, Jaws was
unable to read anything. I pressed alt F4 and still couldn’t get out of
it. I pressed alt tab and nothing happen. I could still hear the people
still on the call talking. The only thing I could do is a hard shut
down. When I did this I heard a buzzing noise until the PC was shut
down. What could have caused not being able to end call? Thanks, Kevin

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