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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Marty Hutchings
Could some of the files be hidden some how?
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there
are only 2 items. If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was
created.
Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13 From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder Is it possible that your view is not set to list,
and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?
On mine, both have more than two
folders.
The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open
Book.
Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their
new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might
matter.
Glenn
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Marty Hutchings
I had tried to install a 32 bit version, not knowing that this laptop was a
64 bit and I got an error message, so I did get a 64 bit version.
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
Just one more thing here. The x86 folder is designated for 32-bit applications. The one that’s just labeled “program files” is for 64-bita pplications. On a 64-bit system, you will have both. On my system, I have a freedom scientific subfolder in both folders, however the “x86” one is much smaller. Looks like it may be the reverse, in your case, then. That leads me to wonder if you did actually install a 64-bit version of jaws on that machine? Anyway, if you check the “x86” folder, you should indeed see a lot ore JAWS-related files, if they’re not in the other one.
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right? On mine, both have more than two folders. The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book. Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.
Glenn
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Marty Hutchings
The View is set to List and when I open the FS folder, JAWS says that there
are only 2 items. If I hit Right Arrow, it tells me when the item was
created.
Why would I not have a FS folder in the first Program Files folder?
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder Is it possible that your view is not set to list,
and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?
On mine, both have more than two
folders.
The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open
Book.
Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their
new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might
matter.
Glenn
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
Mario
a slight correction, I saide "from now on...". the change does not
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persist. it is restored to toggling between full speech and speech on demand. however there is a setting in the default configurations named Less Speech Options which can be toggled to Mute Speech. press enter twice and reboot. the toggling between full speech and speech mute should now persist future reboots. btw, I'm still using Windows 7 with JAWS 2018. don't know if this works in latest versions of JAWS in Windows 10. JMCasey, you were right all along.
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From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@teksavvy.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 4:21 PM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 Ah yes. That works, and is faster. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: October 16, 2019 3:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019 the way I know how to toggle between full speech and speech mute is to first make sure the verbosity is set to speech on demand. then press insert+spacebar shift+s. from now on, insert+spacebar s will toggle between full speech and speech mute. have -------- Original Message -------- From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@teksavvy.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 3:27 PM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hi. There is a setting in, I think, “speech options” where you can switch the insert-space, s toggle between “speech on demand” and “no speech”. I have mine set to “no speech”, since I tend to use braille 99% of the time nowadays and hardly use speech at all, but still want to be able to turn it on quickly from time to time. I have found that some scripts, notably, ones for Skype, break this feature. As in, they will turn speech back on, and after this, the toggle will not work at all until a JAWS restart. This is a bug of some kind, which I will probably report; I just need to figure out which scripts, exactly, are causing this. Anyway, other than that, it works pretty well. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *William rWindels *Sent:* October 16, 2019 3:57 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hello, I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work. Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels William Windels Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag) .
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
JM Casey
Just one more thing here. The x86 folder is designated for 32-bit applications. The one that’s just labeled “program files” is for 64-bita pplications. On a 64-bit system, you will have both. On my system, I have a freedom scientific subfolder in both folders, however the “x86” one is much smaller. Looks like it may be the reverse, in your case, then. That leads me to wonder if you did actually install a 64-bit version of jaws on that machine? Anyway, if you check the “x86” folder, you should indeed see a lot ore JAWS-related files, if they’re not in the other one.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 16, 2019 4:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Is it possible that your view is not set to list, and you might find more folders if you arrowed right? On mine, both have more than two folders. The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open Book. Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might matter.
Glenn
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Glenn / Lenny
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Is it possible that your view is not set to list,
and you might find more folders if you arrowed right?
On mine, both have more than two
folders.
The X86 one is the main one, it also holds Open
Book.
Or, perhaps for installations of Jaws since their
new payment scheme, there are less folders, but I don't know why that might
matter.
Glenn
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Marty Hutchings
This is the case. There are 2 Program Files folders and the second
one has X86 after. There is no Freedom Scientific folder in the first one,
but there is this folder in the one with X86 and it only seems to have the 2 sub
folders in it. Where are the rest of the JAWS folders?
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Freedom Scientific folder Hi Marty,
My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit
computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on
it.
On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there
are two Program File folders in the root of C:.
There is one that has (x86) after it, and there
should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are
looking for.
HTH.
BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are
running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit
computer.
If you don't have both Program Files folders, then
your windows is 32 bit.
Glenn
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
JM Casey
Ah yes. That works, and is faster.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: October 16, 2019 3:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019 the way I know how to toggle between full speech and speech mute is to first make sure the verbosity is set to speech on demand. then press insert+spacebar shift+s. from now on, insert+spacebar s will toggle between full speech and speech mute. have -------- Original Message -------- From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@teksavvy.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 3:27 PM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hi. There is a setting in, I think, “speech options” where you can switch the insert-space, s toggle between “speech on demand” and “no speech”. I have mine set to “no speech”, since I tend to use braille 99% of the time nowadays and hardly use speech at all, but still want to be able to turn it on quickly from time to time. I have found that some scripts, notably, ones for Skype, break this feature. As in, they will turn speech back on, and after this, the toggle will not work at all until a JAWS restart. This is a bug of some kind, which I will probably report; I just need to figure out which scripts, exactly, are causing this. Anyway, other than that, it works pretty well. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *William rWindels *Sent:* October 16, 2019 3:57 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hello, I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work. Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels William Windels Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag)
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Re: The Freedom Scientific folder
Glenn / Lenny
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Hi Marty,
My guess that the computer in question is a 64 bit
computer and the one you are used to has a 32 bit version of Windows running on
it.
On 64 bit computers running Windows 64 bit, there
are two Program File folders in the root of C:.
There is one that has (x86) after it, and there
should be a Freedom Scientific folder in there too, and probably the one you are
looking for.
HTH.
BTW, this is how anyone can tell if they are
running a 64 bit version of Windows, which of course will only run on a 64 bit
computer.
If you don't have both Program Files folders, then
your windows is 32 bit.
Glenn
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The Freedom Scientific folder
Marty Hutchings
I have noticed that there are several folders in the Freedom Scientific folder on my Windows 7 machine where I am running JFW 2019, but when I installed JAWS 2019 on my Windows 10 laptop, there are only the Error Reporting and Shared folders showing in the Freedom Scientific folder in Program Files on the laptop computer. Why is this and how do I get the rest of the files to show?
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Re: windows 10 product key
Mario
Loy, I too would like to know how much.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca] To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 11:38 AM Subject: windows 10 product key If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay for the key? *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Loy *Sent:* Saturday, October 12, 2019 10:21 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: windows 10 product key I purchased a Windows Pro key from Kevin at the following email address. he sells computers and etc on the Blind Ad list all the time. nocm@juno.com <mailto:nocm@juno.com> <nocm@juno.com <mailto:nocm@juno.com>>
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
Mario
the way I know how to toggle between full speech and speech mute is to
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first make sure the verbosity is set to speech on demand. then press insert+spacebar shift+s. from now on, insert+spacebar s will toggle between full speech and speech mute. have
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From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@teksavvy.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 3:27 PM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hi. There is a setting in, I think, “speech options” where you can switch the insert-space, s toggle between “speech on demand” and “no speech”. I have mine set to “no speech”, since I tend to use braille 99% of the time nowadays and hardly use speech at all, but still want to be able to turn it on quickly from time to time. I have found that some scripts, notably, ones for Skype, break this feature. As in, they will turn speech back on, and after this, the toggle will not work at all until a JAWS restart. This is a bug of some kind, which I will probably report; I just need to figure out which scripts, exactly, are causing this. Anyway, other than that, it works pretty well. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *William rWindels *Sent:* October 16, 2019 3:57 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* activating no speech with jaws 2019 Hello, I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work. Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels William Windels Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag)
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
JM Casey
Hi. There is a setting in, I think, “speech options” where you can switch the insert-space, s toggle between “speech on demand” and “no speech”. I have mine set to “no speech”, since I tend to use braille 99% of the time nowadays and hardly use speech at all, but still want to be able to turn it on quickly from time to time.
I have found that some scripts, notably, ones for Skype, break this feature. As in, they will turn speech back on, and after this, the toggle will not work at all until a JAWS restart. This is a bug of some kind, which I will probably report; I just need to figure out which scripts, exactly, are causing this. Anyway, other than that, it works pretty well.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: October 16, 2019 3:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019
Hello,
I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work.
Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels
William Windels
Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag)
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
Van Lant, Robin
Yes, I use the speech on demand option to do this exact thing on webinars. It's Insert spacebar then s to toggle speech on and off. Mine says "Speech on demand" when I am essentially muting JAWS and says "Full Speech" when I toggle it back to regular mode.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019 John, is that mode called speech on demand? -------- Original Message -------- From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 4:33 AM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 If you hit jaws-space and then s, it will go into a mode where it only speaks if you hit one of the reading keys, if you then hit jaws-space and s, normal speech will come back. On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:56:36 -0400, William Windels wrote: [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>] [2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] Hello, I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work. Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels William Windels Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag) This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: activating no speech with jaws 2019
Mario
John, is that mode called speech on demand?
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From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 4:33 AM Subject: activating no speech with jaws 2019 If you hit jaws-space and then s, it will go into a mode where it only speaks if you hit one of the reading keys, if you then hit jaws-space and s, normal speech will come back. On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:56:36 -0400, William Windels wrote: [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>] [2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] Hello, I would like to turn off speech during a hangout meeting. I was trying to make souch profile to activate with insert+ctrl+s but this seems not to work. Is there a quick way to turn off speech for a time or in a specific situation? Kind regards William Windels William Windels Incident Manager SWF 02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdag namiddag)
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Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Norma,
Sorry about being a bit late to the party.
I really like Keepass for managing my passwords in Windows. I find it is accessible with Fusion 2019 and JAWS. It is also free and you can read about it at the following link:
https://keepass.info/download.html
It's latest version is KeePass 2.43 which can be downloaded with the following link:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/files/KeePass%202.x/2.43/KeePass-2.43-Setup.exe/download
If you use an iPhone or other iOS device, Mini Keepass is the app which works with the Keepass .kdbx database file. You have to transfer the database file to your iOS device either using a Dropbox account or iTunes since Keepass doesn't have a cloud service like 1Password. But it is free.
Here is a How-To Geek article on password managers you might want to read:
The article might be a bit dated and it is not written from an accessibility viewpoint but it does have some good information. Good luck with the selection process.
Alan Lemly
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote: Seconded in a big way. It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do. Any change I make to my password safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner. ~ Eric Hoffer
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Re: Question about the yearly payment plan for JAWS
Cristóbal
Indeed. I wonder how much longer Vispero’s going to let us regular SMA users stay grandfathered in. This year’s my last SMA. I fully intend on doing the re-up for the next two jFW cycles for the usual $120. I have to imagine they’ll eventually phase it out.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question about the yearly payment plan for JAWS
In other words, you can only use Jaws as long as you maintain your subscription as is the case with any subscription whether it’s for a music service, a movie service, Office 365 etc. The nice thing about the Jaws subscription is that you get access to Jaws for a very affordable annual fee (not sure if you can also pay monthly) and that you are always entitled to use whatever the latest version of Jaws is. The subscription is basically purchase price and SMA all rolled into one annual subscription fee and as we all know this is a model many organisations adopt now, Office 365 is another good example.
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Loy,
The JAWS home annual license is a subscription requiring annual renewal. It is a non-perpetual license that stops working when the license term expires.
Alan Lemly
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
If I were to decide to go with the JAWS yearly purchase plan for 2020 and then did not purchase the 2021 yearly plan, would I be able to use the 2020 version in 2021?
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Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Cristóbal
I’ve been using 1Password for a couple of years now and haven’t experienced this issue at all. Also, you mention 1Password 4. I don’t know if there’s a reason why you’re still on such an old version of the product, but I’m currently running the most up to date 1Password Version 7.3.712 on my PCs. They’re usually good and responsive about addressing accessibility bugs brought to their attention too. So other than that, don’t know what else to say.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Have you used version 4?
On 10/16/2019 10:45 AM, Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Norma A. Boge
Many thanks to everybody for your suggestions. Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:43 AM, Robert Cole wrote: Seconded in a big way. It also has iOS and Android ports and allows those versions as well as the PC version to use the cloud as the location for your encrypted password safe file, which is what I do. Any change I make to my password safe either on my smartphone or any of my computers is reflected on all other devices as a result. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner. ~ Eric Hoffer
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Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers
Norma A. Boge
Hi John, thanks for the info. I need a manager for my PC so I'll be looking
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elsewhere. Best, norma
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seeking recommendations for password managers Last pass is not very accessible, you need to click the mouse on lots of stuff and its rather obscure in some places -- I needed sighted help via Aira to get it going. It does have lots of good features and the IOS app is pretty accessible, but not the PC. On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:52:16 -0400, Norma A. Boge wrote: managers. I recall Last Pass, is that still a good option in terms of accessibility with Jaws? Any other helpful info much appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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