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Using jaws on mark book pro

Adekoya Rasak
 

Hello,
I have a mark book pro laptop. Can I install jaws on it if i install windows OS on it.

Will it work well with the jaws and window key command? Any one with experience on this.

Thank you

Re: need help unmuting volume

 

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 03:12 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
I think you and I are talking about two very different programs.
You are, but they're both written by Nir Sofer and downloadable from Nirsoft.com.

He often has "grand unified" utilities like nircmd along with specifically focused ones like sound volume view.

If one were to wish to do as Mr. Delzer suggested and put an entry in startup to intentionally unmute every time the computer boots from scratch (as opposed to coming out of hibernation, whether conventional or for Fast Startup), then using nircmd is the easier option.  It's also the easier option if one wishes to create an "unmute" or unmute/mute toggle shortcut on the desktop as well.
 
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Re: windows narrator

James Homuth
 

Folks,

 

This is kind of off-topic for this list. Please keep rule 2 in mind. Thank you.

 

James,

List Admin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: March-09-19 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

Don't know any trouble shooters but I have a couple workarounds.

 

 

Press control+alt+delete to open Secure desktop windows sign in dialog.  Then press escape to dismiss the window.  Sometimes this sorts things out.

 

Also press the keys to turn Narrator off then again to turn it back on. 

 

You can also sync your Narrator settings for startup by pressing control+windows key+n to bring up advanced settings.  Tab till you hear "Start Narrator before sign-in for everyone" and then Use current settings before sign-in. 

 

Did you know?  You can change the default soundcard for Narrator in this screen?  Helps if you have more than one sound device.

 

Sometimes we are on the lock screen.  Pressing escape should, but does not always go to the sign in window.  I find I have to move around with tab a few times then press escape.

 

I don't know why the sign in and lock screen windows are so unreliable.

Sometimes Windows is simply updating and won't talk for a while.

 

A new one for me is when I get to the pin edit box. I sometimes have to press space bar to edit. Other times I can just start typing my pin.  This is a good way for someone to overhear at least the first letter of your pin if you don't notice the prompt to press space bar to edit first.

 

Need to send this to Windows Feedback Hub.

Press Narrator+alt+f to send additional data if you have this turned on in settings

 

Bob

 

On 2018-08-24 9:14 p.m., Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi. is there a trouble shooter to fix windows narrator on windows 10 1803. When I sign in, don’t hear any voices, just the clicks and some times doing control windows enter will not turn off narrator. The only way to do that was to power down and then log back on, any one got a trouble shooter for this. Did google but could not seem to find any thing, also is there a trouble shooter for my soundcard.

Any ideas.

Thanks.

 

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Re: Word skipping pages

Rick Mladek
 

Hi,

 

When the Word Document is open, hit alt +w and then e. This will allow scrolling page to page without skipping.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Word skipping pages

 

Hi there,

 

I’ve just joined this group about 15 minutes ago so my apologies if this topic has been addressed before.

 

I’m using Windows 10 with Jaws 18 and am subscribed to Office 365. When I scroll through documents, I find that pages are skipped over – e.g I can end up on page 4 when I get to the end of page 1 using the down arrow. I’ve gone through the options in settings but haven’t found a solution yet.

 

Can anyone help?

 

Cheers

Zel


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Re: windows narrator

Robert Logue
 

Don't know any trouble shooters but I have a couple workarounds.



Press control+alt+delete to open Secure desktop windows sign in dialog.  Then press escape to dismiss the window.  Sometimes this sorts things out.


Also press the keys to turn Narrator off then again to turn it back on. 


You can also sync your Narrator settings for startup by pressing control+windows key+n to bring up advanced settings.  Tab till you hear "Start Narrator before sign-in for everyone" and then Use current settings before sign-in. 


Did you know?  You can change the default soundcard for Narrator in this screen?  Helps if you have more than one sound device.


Sometimes we are on the lock screen.  Pressing escape should, but does not always go to the sign in window.  I find I have to move around with tab a few times then press escape.


I don't know why the sign in and lock screen windows are so unreliable.

Sometimes Windows is simply updating and won't talk for a while.


A new one for me is when I get to the pin edit box. I sometimes have to press space bar to edit. Other times I can just start typing my pin.  This is a good way for someone to overhear at least the first letter of your pin if you don't notice the prompt to press space bar to edit first.


Need to send this to Windows Feedback Hub.

Press Narrator+alt+f to send additional data if you have this turned on in settings


Bob


On 2018-08-24 9:14 p.m., Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi. is there a trouble shooter to fix windows narrator on windows 10 1803. When I sign in, don’t hear any voices, just the clicks and some times doing control windows enter will not turn off narrator. The only way to do that was to power down and then log back on, any one got a trouble shooter for this. Did google but could not seem to find any thing, also is there a trouble shooter for my soundcard.

Any ideas.

Thanks.


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Re: Outlook 2016 Question About Reading E-mail Fields

david
 

well, the alt+number still works hear.

not sure what the issue may be.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 2:38 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook 2016 Question About Reading E-mail Fields

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I used to be able to read the various fields in an open Outlook 2016 e-mail message using the alt key, followed by the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc..

 

This now no longer works.

 

Whenever I hit these key combinations, I get an “unavailable” message.

 

Does anyone know if something has changed to no longer make this possible, and is there a work-around?

 

I also find shif-tabbing through the various fields to be very unreliable.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

Re: Notepad++ and Jaws

JM Casey
 

Those damn gremlins, getting their filthy fingers everywhere. :P

 

I haven’t really done a lot of .html stuff yet (working on it though), but love the automatic sorting features of notepad++ -- makes creating ordered lists a beautiful process. J

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: March 9, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad++ and Jaws

 

I think you are right about the verbosity setting.

And, strangely enough, Jaws stopped speaking the status bar after each letter and I did nothing to change any settings.

Must have been gremlins.

 

I will say that when I check the status line with insert+page-down, it reads very confusingly.

I wrote two words which took 10 characters and when I checked the status line manually it said:

Normal text file length : 10 lines : 1 Ln : 1 Col : 11 Sel : 0 | 0 Windows (CR LF) UTF-8 INS

If you ignore the words “text fie length”  it makes sense.

I think I might try the trick of doing a dictionary entry that blanks out those words.

Otherwise, this seems pretty good for editing the html files I have already created, which is what I do mostly now.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad++ and Jaws

 

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the verbosity setting is only for JAWS messages, I thought, and wouldn’t affect something like this?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: March 8, 2019 5:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad++ and Jaws

 

 

I actually have have verbosity set to advanced because I cannot stand how chatty Jaws is.

I will do some digging around in the settings this weekend when I should have some time.

Thanks,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Mar 8, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Betsy Binney <Meandbastet@...> wrote:

I think if you change your verbosity setting to intermediate or above JAWS won’t read the status information. 

Betsy


On Mar 8, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

I don’t experience the problem of the status bar being read for each character typed. I’m also not sure what setting would have to be changed to stop it from happening. The problem I do experience is there are times after typing in some text on a line I will arrow down and I cannot get off the line. I have to hit escape or go out and back into the window. Also there are times when just arrowing through the document Jaws will suddenly not read a line. I know there is code on the line. Jaws just doesn’t read it. This occurs when using jaws 2018 or 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad++ and Jaws

 

Hello Richard.

 

It does not do this for me. There must be some JAWS setting involved which you and I and, I suppose, other users of Notepad++ have set differently, but I don’t know what it could be off-hand. Using JAWS 2018 at the moment; it worked acceptably with JAWS 18 as well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: March 8, 2019 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Notepad++ and Jaws

 

Someone on this list, I think, mentioned using Notepad++ for creating web pages.

Since my previous software has stopped working I checked it out.

 

Jaws reads the status line after each character press, which makes it unusable for me.

Any way to stop that behavior?

 

Richard

 

Re: need help unmuting volume

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I think you and I are talking about two very different programs.

On 2019-03-09 10:01 a.m., ratshtron wrote:
this is true, but a shortcut must be created for
the program and then you need to change the last
parameter to a 0 to unmute the sound. as I
mentioned earlier, you can assign a keystroke to
the shortcut so you can activate the shortcut on
the fly. the last parameter works this way, 1
mutes, 2 makes the shortcut a toggle, and 0
unmutes the sound. so the target field has to be
edited to look like this once the program is
placed in the c:\windows\system32 folder

c:\windows\system32\nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 0

you can then move the shortcut to the startup folder.


Legend has it that on Friday 3/8/2019 10:46 PM, Curtis Delzer said:
----------------------------------------
or you can put it in your startup group so every
time your computer re-boots it will unmute the sound.

On 3/8/2019 7:55 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,

Alternatively this program can allow you to
just press enter on a file and have all volume unmuted.

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/sound_volume_view.html


hope either of these methods help.
On 2019-03-08 9:44 p.m., ratshtron wrote:
below is a link to a page to download a
utility to use in a shortcut to execute line
commands in windows specifily to mute and
unmute the speakers on your computer. download
the version of nircmd.exe for your os be it a
32bit system or a 64bit system and place it in
your c:\windows\system32 folder and then
create a shortcut using this program with the
target looking something like this:

c:\windows\system32\nircmd.exe mutesysvolume 2

the last perameter of 2 is a toggle that will
mute and unmute every other time you execute
the shortcut. you can assign a keystroke to
the short by right clicking on the shortcut
created and tab to the shortcut key and assign
one. I assigned shift plus alt plus v. hope
this is clear enough and if someone else can explain it better please do so.


now the link to the web page to download the
program. O' it is a free utility.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html



Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/6/2019 08:42 PM, Jed Barton said:
----------------------------------------
Hey guys,

OK, just had a major problem.  I have no idea how i did it.
Fortunately someone was able to help me out of it, but i muted my
system volume.  Curious, when this happens, what is the keystroke to
hit with the latest jaws to unmute everything?

Thanks,
Jed
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Word skipping pages

Zel Iscel
 

Hi there,

 

I’ve just joined this group about 15 minutes ago so my apologies if this topic has been addressed before.

 

I’m using Windows 10 with Jaws 18 and am subscribed to Office 365. When I scroll through documents, I find that pages are skipped over – e.g I can end up on page 4 when I get to the end of page 1 using the down arrow. I’ve gone through the options in settings but haven’t found a solution yet.

 

Can anyone help?

 

Cheers

Zel

Re: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Heather Thomas <heather.thomas@...>
 

Hi Ann,

It sounds like formatting markers are turned on in Word. You can press control + shift + 8 to toggle off formatting markers and JAWS should stop announcing them.
-Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Hi,


I'm running the latest Windows 10. I'm not sure what I did, but now all of a sudden, my Jaws, the latest version, speaks way too much info in Word, such as, Space Marker, Paragraph marker, etc.


It's really driving me crazy. How do I get it to stop announcing all these things?


Thanks,

~Ann






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Re: s s h clients that work well with jaws

Jed Barton
 

Where do you get open ssh, is it a free program, i'm guessing it works
on windows, and i can ssh into a box?

On 3/9/19, Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...> wrote:
Hi Jed,

I've had very good luck with openssh client from cygwin. It's a
completely console based program, so it's as accessible as any
console window can be.

Microsoft also has a version of openssh, which I think is based on
WSL but ought to act very similarly:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse

Others seem to like Secure CRT, which is quite a bit more powerful in
terms of features, but requires a fair bit of setup I think to be spot on.

You will probably get more responses to this question on the blind
programming mailing list:
program-l@...

Hope this helps!

Ben

At 03:40 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, so i'm jumping into the world with linux, and i need to ssh into a
few boxes. What's the best over-all program to use?

Cheers,

Jed




Re: ResearchIt Weather

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks Tim for the explanation and the extra effort.

My luck with reporting   issues within Windows 10 Mail must be perpetually on the bottom of such a list.  Mitch

 

 

 

From: Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ResearchIt Weather

 

I wrote to JAWS tech support yesterday, and they confirmed it is broken.  They told me they would add it to their list of items, and to watch for tech updates on their web site. 

 

Tim Ford

,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:07 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ResearchIt Weather

 

Hi,  It’s a very handy feature when working.  Mine has failed the last 2 days.  Anyone else? 

Using the latest JAWS 2019 and Windows 10.  Thanks, Mitch

 

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” G. K. Chesterton

 

 

 

 

 

Outlook 2016 Question About Reading E-mail Fields

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I used to be able to read the various fields in an open Outlook 2016 e-mail message using the alt key, followed by the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc..

 

This now no longer works.

 

Whenever I hit these key combinations, I get an “unavailable” message.

 

Does anyone know if something has changed to no longer make this possible, and is there a work-around?

 

I also find shif-tabbing through the various fields to be very unreliable.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2019 here.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 

Re: ResearchIt Weather

Tim Ford
 

I wrote to JAWS tech support yesterday, and they confirmed it is broken.  They told me they would add it to their list of items, and to watch for tech updates on their web site. 

 

Tim Ford

,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:07 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ResearchIt Weather

 

Hi,  It’s a very handy feature when working.  Mine has failed the last 2 days.  Anyone else? 

Using the latest JAWS 2019 and Windows 10.  Thanks, Mitch

 

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” G. K. Chesterton

 

 

 

 

Re: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Steve Nutt
 

Or just press Control+Shift+8.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 09 March 2019 17:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

See if things are now checked that shouldn't be in File, Options, Display.
Tap the alt key, hit f, t, and arrow down once to Display and tab through the various settings. I suspect somehow a bunch of those got turned on.

I do not know if there is a one hotkey toggle to enable or disable them.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Hi,


I'm running the latest Windows 10. I'm not sure what I did, but now all of a sudden, my Jaws, the latest version, speaks way too much info in Word, such as, Space Marker, Paragraph marker, etc.


It's really driving me crazy. How do I get it to stop announcing all these things?


Thanks,

~Ann

Re: Creating a Website Using JAWS

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I hadn't come across that link before, so many thanks for that.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: 09 March 2019 17:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Website Using JAWS

that's true.
wordpress may serve your requirements.
please visit the below given link for starting with wordpress.

https://www.customerservant.com/series/wordpress-with-a-screen-reader/

On 3/9/19, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Hi Debbie,



Use a content management system, such as WordPress. It does all the
heavy lifting for you.



All the best


Steve



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April Yuille
Sent: 07 March 2019 08:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Creating a Website Using JAWS



Hi All



What is the best way to create a website using JAWS? I've quite an
advance JAWS user but have never created a website before.



Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Anne,

Just press Control+Shift+8 on the top row of numbers. That will turn off space and paragraph markers.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: 09 March 2019 17:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW speaking too much info in latest ms word

Hi,


I'm running the latest Windows 10. I'm not sure what I did, but now all of a sudden, my Jaws, the latest version, speaks way too much info in Word, such as, Space Marker, Paragraph marker, etc.


It's really driving me crazy. How do I get it to stop announcing all these things?


Thanks,

~Ann

Re: s s h clients that work well with jaws

Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...>
 

Hi Jed,

I've had very good luck with openssh client from cygwin. It's a completely console based program, so it's as accessible as any console window can be.

Microsoft also has a version of openssh, which I think is based on WSL but ought to act very similarly:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/openssh/openssh_install_firstuse

Others seem to like Secure CRT, which is quite a bit more powerful in terms of features, but requires a fair bit of setup I think to be spot on.

You will probably get more responses to this question on the blind programming mailing list:
program-l@...

Hope this helps!

Ben

At 03:40 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, so i'm jumping into the world with linux, and i need to ssh into a
few boxes. What's the best over-all program to use?

Cheers,

Jed

Re: turning off announcement of...

Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...>
 

Hi Mario,

JAWS is very particular about matching entries in the dictionary manager, which is why I suggested viewing exactly what is being spoken in the Speech History first. Spaces, commas, punctuation, it all matters for matching.

for example, when I pressed Insert+Space, L and typed random keys, here is the exact thing JAWS spoke:
"To unlock, press Insert+Space, L"

I added that to the default dictionary manager, choose to replace it with the word "Testing" for testing purposes, then verified it worked by locking and then pressing random keys.

It does work for me here running JAWS 2019 and Win10 but should work similarly in all versions.

Keep at it, you'll get it, and discover a very powerful way of eliminating JAWS noise pollution.

Ben

At 01:09 PM 3/9/2019, you wrote:
no. you misunderstood the issue. when he presses insert+spacebar and l.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

If you are talking about the message about pressing control, alt, delete
to log on, yes it is shown on the screen.
When I lock my home computer with Windows-Key plus l, when I hit a key,
the password field pops up.
At work, they have it set that you have to press control-alt-delete to
log on and the message is shown as well as spoken.
If he used a password, someone knowing the keys to press wouldn't help
them unless they also know his password.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. he just wants to prevent accidental potential disasters from
happening when he leaves the computer running for a while unattended, in
case something bumps a few keys, curious home members, etc.

does anyone know if this message actually displays on the screen when a
key is pressed after the keyboard is locked? I'm thinking it isn't.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

So, does he not use a password?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

he just tried it but it didn't work. he made the entry in the default
dictionary and even unloaded/reloaded JAWS, and after the keyboard is
locked, the announcement of what to press is still spoken.

how would he split up the announcement as you specified? give an example
using this announcement he doesn't want.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ben Humphreys [mailto:brhbrhbrh@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

Hi Mario,

One strategy is to use the JAWS Dictionary Manager to substitute a space
for the text that annoys you.

For example, here's one I find annoying and have added to my JAWS
default dictionary:
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource," to ""

When the messages are long, it's most reliable when you break them up
into smaller chunks.

The Speech History command is good for viewing what exactly is being
spoken so you can create a proper substitution in the JAWS Dictionary
Manager.

Hope this helps,

Ben

At 12:49 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
my friend is using Windows 10 with JAWS 2018 and locks his keyboard
occasionally to prevent accidental presses of keys while he's not using
it for a while, and wants to know if there's a way to disable/turn
off/suppress the announcement on what to press to unlock the keyboard.
he looked at the quick settings but didn't find such a setting. he also
disabled the announcement of tutor messages, figuring the announcement
might be a tutor message, and did unload and reload JAWS, but the
message was still being announced. anyone have an idea?







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Re: turning off announcement of...

Richard Turner
 

OK.
I did not know that Jaws command.
I just had my wife check and the text is not on the screen, but obviously Jaws speaks it.
Anyone can open any program using the mouse or touchpad however, even though they cannot type.
So, perhaps a work around would be for him to put Jaws into Speech on demand with insert+space then s, so unless they know a jaws command to read the current line or to get it back to full speech, they wouldn't know what to do.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. you misunderstood the issue. when he presses insert+spacebar and l.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

If you are talking about the message about pressing control, alt, delete to log on, yes it is shown on the screen.
When I lock my home computer with Windows-Key plus l, when I hit a key, the password field pops up.
At work, they have it set that you have to press control-alt-delete to log on and the message is shown as well as spoken.
If he used a password, someone knowing the keys to press wouldn't help them unless they also know his password.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. he just wants to prevent accidental potential disasters from happening when he leaves the computer running for a while unattended, in case something bumps a few keys, curious home members, etc.

does anyone know if this message actually displays on the screen when a key is pressed after the keyboard is locked? I'm thinking it isn't.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

So, does he not use a password?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

he just tried it but it didn't work. he made the entry in the default dictionary and even unloaded/reloaded JAWS, and after the keyboard is locked, the announcement of what to press is still spoken.

how would he split up the announcement as you specified? give an example using this announcement he doesn't want.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ben Humphreys [mailto:brhbrhbrh@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

Hi Mario,

One strategy is to use the JAWS Dictionary Manager to substitute a space for the text that annoys you.

For example, here's one I find annoying and have added to my JAWS default dictionary:
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource," to ""

When the messages are long, it's most reliable when you break them up into smaller chunks.

The Speech History command is good for viewing what exactly is being spoken so you can create a proper substitution in the JAWS Dictionary Manager.

Hope this helps,

Ben

At 12:49 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
my friend is using Windows 10 with JAWS 2018 and locks his keyboard occasionally to prevent accidental presses of keys while he's not using it for a while, and wants to know if there's a way to disable/turn off/suppress the announcement on what to press to unlock the keyboard.
he looked at the quick settings but didn't find such a setting. he also disabled the announcement of tutor messages, figuring the announcement might be a tutor message, and did unload and reload JAWS, but the message was still being announced. anyone have an idea?







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