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moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Jason White
 

I don’t know about “most accessible”, as I haven’t been comparing security software for accessibility, but it is highly accessible.

 

Note also that Microsoft has strengthened Windows Defender over time. For example, in Windows 2004, there is now an option to block “potentially unwanted applications” that may not be malware as such, but which have effects that you probably don’t want or don’t intend. Another Windows 10 release (I can’t remember whether it was 1903 or 1909) added “tamper protection” to Windows Defender, which you also need to turn on in Windows Security.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Antivirus software.

 

Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

I too use eset. Despite a number of calls to them about accessibility, it
has fallen on deaf ears.
pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Griffith
Sent: Sunday 7 June 2020 00:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

I have heard a lot about how Windows Defender has improved. So much so I
abandoned the ESET Smart security subscription I had because of
deteriorating accessibility.
I have however kept my old 1.7 version of Malwarebytes going and resisted
program upgrade to maintain accessibility although I let the virus database
keep up to date.
Thank goodness I did. During the last week Malwarebytes identified a Trojan
on my laptop that Windows Defender was completely oblivious of despite my
performing a complete Windows Defender scan after the Malwarebytes alert.
I turned to Windows Defender as Initially Malwarebytes was struggling and
failing to quarantine this Trojan threat.
On investigation it had infected one of the plug-in directories of
Videoland VLC. Uninstalling VLC did not succeed in removing the offending
files and predictably trying to delete these files manually also failed as
Windows identified them as being used by another process.
Eventually a full scan by Malwarebyte was able to remove this trojan from my
registry in memory and I was finally able to also delete the offending VLC
directories as a failsafe.
What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely
unaware of this problem and failed to react.
David Griffith





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: 06 June 2020 23:37
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Antivirus software.

Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do
to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most
accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with
Jaws. Thanks.


moderated latest Outlook issue

Rick Mladek
 

Hello all,

 

When going through my inbox with outlook 2019 single key type and not 365, also Jaws 2019 due to Jaws 2020 being too troubled and latest Windows 10.

 

When in my inbox, having many emails to go through, I highlight the first, listen to the subject and if nothing I choose to listen to, I simply delete. The inbox then shows zero messages within until I arrow down and it then will read the next message. Before, it would automatically read the next message in succession for me to either delete again or read. I’ve not changed any settings.

 

Any ideas why this is listing my inbox as having zero messages within when it actually may have many? Then not recognizing the next until I arrow down to the next, then it will tell me how many messages within the inbox. Odd and hope someome can tell me what may need changed to correct this issue.

 

Thanks all,

 

Rick


moderated Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

Cornelius
 

Go for the latest JAWS2020.
 
 

From: Norma A. Boge
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: list Jaws
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
 

Hi group,

 

I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

david Jennette
 

Thanks. It's still looking like defender is the package of choice. I do know it's improving but I did want to see if anyone had heard of any accessibility improvements in other security software. Just a head's up. Your probably going to see a repeat of my original message because for some reason it took an hour or two to post to the list so I sent it again. Sorry about that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Emre Rencber
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard. I recommend Kaspersky. But, there are very accessibility problem this software. Of course it is very very very good antivirus.

2020-06-07 1:37 GMT+03:00, david Jennette <dcjenn@bellsouth.net>:
Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask
again do to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is
still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others
now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.





moderated Re: Antivirus software.

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 08:20 PM, david Jennette wrote:
I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again.
---------

It posted the first time, and you have received multiple responses.  Check your spam folder and/or filters.

You can review what has already been said here:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/74722542

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Antivirus software.

david Jennette
 

I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again. Sorry if you all get the message a second time.

I’m wondering if windows defender is still the best antivirus software to use with jaws or if there are now other packages that are accessible now. I figured I’d ask because some time has passed and things might have changed. Thanks.


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 07:00 PM, David Griffith wrote:
What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely
unaware of this problem and failed to react.
David,

          I cannot definitively say this is what happened here, but you need to familiarize yourself with the concept of the false positive, which all scanners occasionally have.

          Also, the site, virustotal.com, allows you to submit either a file by upload, or URLs that would download something, for scanning by over 70 engines.  Unless you have a huge majority of these declaring something bad, you can be quite sure it's a false positive.  It's not unusual to have up to 5 of the engines flag something that all the others do not.  False positives simply happen.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 07:23 PM, Emre Rencber wrote:
Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard.
Absolutely, positively incorrect.  And it's been incorrect ever since the redesign of Windows Defender, now Windows Security, for Windows 8.1.  I trust the testing of the labs that do this sort of thing a lot more than the pronouncements of random members on any forum/group.  For those who want to see what the professionals who test this stuff repeatedly have to say, See the most recent plus the last several years of historical test results from:

AV Test

AV Comparatives

SE Labs  (Reports Page)

MRG Effitas  (360 Protection Testing Category)

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Emre Rencber
 

Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard. I recommend
Kaspersky. But, there are very accessibility problem this software. Of
course it is very very very good antivirus.

2020-06-07 1:37 GMT+03:00, david Jennette <dcjenn@bellsouth.net>:

Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do
to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most
accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well
with
Jaws. Thanks.





moderated Re: Antivirus software.

David Griffith
 

I have heard a lot about how Windows Defender has improved. So much so I
abandoned the ESET Smart security subscription I had because of
deteriorating accessibility.
I have however kept my old 1.7 version of Malwarebytes going and resisted
program upgrade to maintain accessibility although I let the virus database
keep up to date.
Thank goodness I did. During the last week Malwarebytes identified a Trojan
on my laptop that Windows Defender was completely oblivious of despite my
performing a complete Windows Defender scan after the Malwarebytes alert.
I turned to Windows Defender as Initially Malwarebytes was struggling and
failing to quarantine this Trojan threat.
On investigation it had infected one of the plug-in directories of
Videoland VLC. Uninstalling VLC did not succeed in removing the offending
files and predictably trying to delete these files manually also failed as
Windows identified them as being used by another process.
Eventually a full scan by Malwarebyte was able to remove this trojan from my
registry in memory and I was finally able to also delete the offending VLC
directories as a failsafe.
What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely
unaware of this problem and failed to react.
David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: 06 June 2020 23:37
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Antivirus software.

Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do
to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most
accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with
Jaws. Thanks.


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Windows Defender works well.

I use it and haven’t had any viruses.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Antivirus software.

 

Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.


moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Hi Dave. Windows Security works great with both JAWS and NVDA.

               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:37 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Antivirus software.

 

Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.

 


moderated Antivirus software.

david Jennette
 

Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.


moderated Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

JM Casey
 

Well…what problems are you having?

Is there any particular reason you feel your performance issues are related to jAWS?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 11:50 AM
To: list Jaws <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi group,

 

I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 11:50 AM
To: list Jaws <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi group,

 

I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

JM Casey
 

Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 11:50 AM
To: list Jaws <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1

 

Hi group,

 

I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: summer convention specials

Norma A. Boge
 

The ACB convention program will be available in hard copy braille or large print. Selection is made on the registration form. FYI

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

Oh yeah, they need to have enough time to emboss and print all the convention agendas.
LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: summer convention specials


I believe the NFB convention (July 14-18) is free to all but registration is still required. deadline is June 15.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2020, 6:39 AM
Subject: summer convention specials
They’ll stream a lot of it on ACBRadio. You pay to gain access to the Zoom rooms so you can interact, probably also win door prizes.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Lino Morales
*Sent:* Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:50 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: summer convention specials

His fee for members of ACB only? I’m assuming they’ll stream everything live?



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *Norma A. Boge <mailto:naboge@mchsi.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:48 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: summer convention specials

The $25 administrative fee for the ACB Conference and Convention covers everything. No additional fees or hidden charges.

Registration deadline is June 21

Convention is July 3-10

www.acbconvention.org <http://www.acbconvention.org/>

ACB 2020 A Path to the Future


moderated Re: Strange issue wiht Braille Blaster

Richard Turner
 

Well, I think I solved the issue.

Apparently, after updating to Windows 10 1020004, I had to check the Run as Administrator in the desktop shortcut.

It has run normally now twice.

 

 

 

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Strange issue wiht Braille Blaster

 

I am running Windows 10 Home 102004.

JAWS Version 2020.2004.66.400

Braille Blaster: bb: 1.1.24.190-stable

 

If Jaws is running when I launch Braille Blaster, it doesn’t open and Jaws reports Lost Focus, and Braille Blaster is nowhere to be found.

If I unload Jaws and run Narrator, Braille Blaster opens fine.

If I have Narrator and Jaws running at the same time, Braille Blaster opens just fine.

I’m going to write APH and Freedom Scientific as well, but I wondered if anyone here has run into this kind of an issue?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

 

 


moderated Strange issue wiht Braille Blaster

Richard Turner
 

I am running Windows 10 Home 102004.

JAWS Version 2020.2004.66.400

Braille Blaster: bb: 1.1.24.190-stable

 

If Jaws is running when I launch Braille Blaster, it doesn’t open and Jaws reports Lost Focus, and Braille Blaster is nowhere to be found.

If I unload Jaws and run Narrator, Braille Blaster opens fine.

If I have Narrator and Jaws running at the same time, Braille Blaster opens just fine.

I’m going to write APH and Freedom Scientific as well, but I wondered if anyone here has run into this kind of an issue?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

 

 

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