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Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi Google Crome works wonderfully with Jaws 13. The only problem I have is that Firefox updates too quickly and becomes the default browser... I can't seem to find how to tell firefox not to update.. The Firefox 52 also works great with Jaws 13 as long as it doesn't update.. I just deleted firefox.. Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome


I don't think so. Chrome does not work with JAWS 13. It only works
with JAWS 18 or higher.


Gerald



On 3/18/2019 10:37 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
windows 7 with jaws 13.

-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

which operating system are you using?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

*Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I
have to ask. I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to
make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on
to an email or some other link. Can you help?? Thanks so much, Andy
and Shubert*
*From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Hi Orlando,

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome by holding Alt and then
pressing F, then release both keys and press B. I find that the
quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s old favourites
bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can
right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in
and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark
without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks
list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I
decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in some
folder in my bookmarks list.

Paul

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Orlando,

When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is
"Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it
from among your existing folders or create a new one.

In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop
or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying
its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then
shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew
using the URL you copied.

Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks
where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Mario
 

press the windows key.
search for and enter on the phrase "set your default programs".
down arrow to Google Chrome.
tab twice and press space bar on the "Set this program as default button".
tab to and space bar on the OK button.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

   windows 7 with jaws 13.

-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

which operating system are you using?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

*Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I
have to ask.  I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to
make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on
to an email or some other link.  Can you help??  Thanks so much, Andy
and Shubert*
*From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Hi Orlando,

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome  by holding Alt and then
pressing F, then release  both keys and press B.  I find that the
quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s  old favourites
bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can
right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in
and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark
without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks
list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I
decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in  some
folder in my bookmarks list.

Paul

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Orlando,

When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is
"Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it
from among your existing folders or create a new one.

          In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop
or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying
its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then
shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew
using the URL you copied.

          Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks
where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

Re: switching off space marker.

Steve Nutt
 

No, Strong is a form of font, like Bold, only more emphasised.

Insert+V from within Word, then check what attributes you have turned on,
for JAWS to read.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 18 March 2019 00:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Hi, Alison. I believe that the Strong, Normal and Weak refer to gramatical
construction within the document. I would suspect that the solution for this
will be in the "proofing" section of Word, within the Options section. You
should be able to reach the options with ALT plus F, followed by the letter
T. Then, once you are in Options, arrow down to proofing.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Whilst we are talking about editing features, In some documents Jaws says
"strong" and "normal" - what is it talking about and is there a way to
switch this feature off?
I am using Office 365 with Jaws 18.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 March 2019 20:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Hi, Ann. This setting may not affect space markers. On your system, does
turning off New Lines and Paragraphs Indication stop voicing of space
markers?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

there is also a JAWS setting under insert+v.
Under editing: new lines and paragraph indication. It wants to be
off. Well, *you want it to be off, whether it wants to or not.

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Gerald Levy
 

I don't think so.  Chrome does not work with JAWS 13.  It only works with JAWS 18 or higher.


Gerald

On 3/18/2019 10:37 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
   windows 7 with jaws 13.

-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

which operating system are you using?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

*Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I
have to ask.  I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to
make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on
to an email or some other link.  Can you help??  Thanks so much, Andy
and Shubert*
*From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Hi Orlando,

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome  by holding Alt and then
pressing F, then release  both keys and press B.  I find that the
quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s  old favourites
bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can
right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in
and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark
without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks
list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I
decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in some
folder in my bookmarks list.

Paul

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Orlando,

When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is
"Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it
from among your existing folders or create a new one.

          In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop
or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying
its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then
shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew
using the URL you copied.

          Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks
where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

windows 7 with jaws 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

which operating system are you using?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

*Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I
have to ask. I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to
make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on
to an email or some other link. Can you help?? Thanks so much, Andy
and Shubert*
*From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Hi Orlando,

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome by holding Alt and then
pressing F, then release both keys and press B. I find that the
quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s old favourites
bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can
right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in
and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark
without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks
list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I
decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in some
folder in my bookmarks list.

Paul

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Orlando,

When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is
"Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it
from among your existing folders or create a new one.

In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop
or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying
its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then
shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew
using the URL you copied.

Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks
where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a
well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.*/

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

 

Curtis,

            To answer your question, I believe the answer is "no."  The "favorites as a central file" concept was dropped a long time ago, even by Microsoft, and bookmarks tend to be maintained by their respective browsers.   That being said, the first thing that shows at the top of the Chrome Bookmarks Manager page is the bookmarks search.  If you need to filter, and you use names for your bookmarks that allow you to zero in with a word or two, you can get down to a single bookmark very easily then just activate it from within bookmarks manager.  That's actually what I teach people to do, particularly those who really don't organize them in any folder hierarchy.  Of course, I find that I use bookmarks far more seldom these days with the "look through search history" function that's a part of the URL box.  With just a few characters of the site name or something else distinctive what I'm looking for is generally in the short list that one can just down arrow through to select from, and presented from most recently visited to older.

Andrew,

           If you're using Windows 10, then Settings, Apps, Default Apps Pane.  Search for Web Browser.  Your current default web browser will be listed and whatever it is it is a button.  If you activate it you will be presented with a list of installed web browsers on your machine and can choose whichever one you wish.

           If you're using an earlier version of Windows, then Control Panel, Default Programs Item, Default Programs link once the item is opened.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Mario
 

which operating system are you using?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019, 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

*Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I
have to ask.  I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to
make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on
to an email or some other link.  Can you help??  Thanks so much, Andy
and Shubert*
*From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Hi Orlando,

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome  by holding Alt and then
pressing F, then release  both keys and press B.  I find that the
quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s  old favourites
bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can
right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in
and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark
without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks
list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I
decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in  some
folder in my bookmarks list.

Paul

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Orlando,

When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is
"Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it
from among your existing folders or create a new one.

         In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop
or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying
its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then
shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew
using the URL you copied.

         Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks
where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

/*Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a
well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.*/

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/

Re: Sound volume on websites with Google Crome

Marty Hutchings
 

Good idea, but I tried it and Crome doesn't show up on the sound mixer. I just have the sound card volume, system sounds and Zoom volume. Where is Crome volume?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound volume on websites with Google Crome

I think, the chrome volume might be low.
open the chrome as well the volume mixer , and tab to the chrome
volume and increase the chrome volume using up/down arrow keys.




On 3/18/19, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@...> wrote:
I am running JAWS 18 with Windows 7. I am using a phone messaging service
called iTellacenter and when I try to play my voice mail messages using
Google Crome, the volume is muted or extremely low. The volume slider on
the player shows that it is all the way up and the mute is off, but I still
hear nothing, unless I turn my amp way up. I do not have this problem when
using Firefox, but some functions of the website just work better with
Google Crome and it is faster. I have also encountered this when playing
You Tube videos with Google Crome. What am I missing?
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13




--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar

Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

As a rule of thumb, with the speed of computers now, if you write to the card, give it 10 or 15 seconds, then you can pull it out safely without ejecting.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 16 March 2019 18:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:46 PM, Bill White wrote:

I have seen SD cards corrupted because someone didn’t use the Safely Remove Hardware option.

Which can only occur if you pull while a write process is active, period, as far as the end-user action being able to cause an issue.  They're not write-cached, either, as they're considered USB devices.  And I just checked that on my own machine, where I have an SD card that I routinely pull without ejecting without any ill effects.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

How do you know that the act of pulling it out corrupted it?  I would suggest that was a bit of a coincidence.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 16 March 2019 18:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

Maybe so, but I have seen SD cards corrupted because someone didn’t use the Safely Remove Hardware option. And their system wasn’t customized.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bill White wrote:

Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.

I'm not arguing with anything else but this.   The Eject/Safely Remove Hardware function is an anachronism in all but the very rarest of circumstances.  All the way back to Windows 7 Microsoft changed the default behavior for USB connected devices to stop caching writes, because people were doing "the natural thing" and pulling out jump drives and external USB drives once it appeared all activity had ceased.  The problem was if the last activity had been write, the final block of data might not be written unless you ejected.

I just went through all this in the topic, Ejecting Hard Drives and Flash Drives ....., on Bleeping Computer when it came up the other day.  It won't hurt to use Eject, but it's utterly unnecessary on most systems unless someone has done customizations to go back to write caching for USB devices.  You can verify this for yourself for any USB drive you happen to have plugged in by bringing up its Properties, Hardware Tab, Properties button in the Hardware Tab, General Tab in that Properties dialog, Change Settings button, then, finally, the Policies tab in this final Properties dialog.  The radio button for, Quick Removal (default), will be chosen unless someone has tweaked the Windows installation defaults, and this is described as:  Disables write caching on the device and in Windows, but you can disconnect the device safely without using the Safely Remove Hardware notification icon.

I haven't used the eject function literally in decades provided I know that there is no active writing going on to a given thumb drive or external HDD connected via USB.  It's an extra step that, while it won't hurt, generally does nothing unless you were to be in the process of actively writing to the drive, then the eject will not be permitted until that's done.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

I have to agree with you here.  I haven’t used Safely Remove for ever.  I simply turned off write caching in Windows 7 anyway, and as you say, in Windows 10 it’s the default.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 16 March 2019 18:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bill White wrote:

Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.

I'm not arguing with anything else but this.   The Eject/Safely Remove Hardware function is an anachronism in all but the very rarest of circumstances.  All the way back to Windows 7 Microsoft changed the default behavior for USB connected devices to stop caching writes, because people were doing "the natural thing" and pulling out jump drives and external USB drives once it appeared all activity had ceased.  The problem was if the last activity had been write, the final block of data might not be written unless you ejected.

I just went through all this in the topic, Ejecting Hard Drives and Flash Drives ....., on Bleeping Computer when it came up the other day.  It won't hurt to use Eject, but it's utterly unnecessary on most systems unless someone has done customizations to go back to write caching for USB devices.  You can verify this for yourself for any USB drive you happen to have plugged in by bringing up its Properties, Hardware Tab, Properties button in the Hardware Tab, General Tab in that Properties dialog, Change Settings button, then, finally, the Policies tab in this final Properties dialog.  The radio button for, Quick Removal (default), will be chosen unless someone has tweaked the Windows installation defaults, and this is described as:  Disables write caching on the device and in Windows, but you can disconnect the device safely without using the Safely Remove Hardware notification icon.

I haven't used the eject function literally in decades provided I know that there is no active writing going on to a given thumb drive or external HDD connected via USB.  It's an extra step that, while it won't hurt, generally does nothing unless you were to be in the process of actively writing to the drive, then the eject will not be permitted until that's done.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Nutt
 

That’s what’s puzzling me Steve.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 16 March 2019 16:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

I'm not even sure what the objective is here. When the System Tray is opened with JAWS Key + F11, you can use first-letter navigation to find anything. Is it that critical to have the icons arranged in a certain order if you're using JAWS?

 

On 3/16/2019 10:54 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

You want to rearrange system tray icons. This is not possible.

That is not technically correct.   I still haven't found a way via the keyboard, even using emulated drag and drop, but it can be done via actual drag and drop.  If something is driving you absolutely mad because it's "too far down the icon parade" on the system tray then if you can get a sighted assistant they can drag it to any position relative to the other displayed icons you wish.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

    Hi, I know that this is not about book marks but, it is the only way I have to ask.  I have google crome and I need to get the short cut to make google crome my default browser... Fire Fox loads when I click on to an email or some other link.  Can you help??  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
 

From: paul lemm
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome
 

Hi Orlando,

 

Personally, I bring up the bookmarks in Chrome  by holding Alt and then pressing F, then release  both keys and press  B.  I find that the quickest method for me, plus it feels most like IE’s  old favourites bookmarks which I like. But when you are in this bookmark menu you can right click a bookmark , select cut then go to the folder you want it in and paste there. I find this helpful if I’ve just added a quick bookmark without assigning it a folder since its at the bottom of my bookmarks list and I can just then cut and paste it into the folder I want it if I decide to keep the bookmark and want to file/organise it away in  some folder in my bookmarks list.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: sorting bookmarks in Google Chrome

 

Orlando,

         When you create a bookmark with CTRL+D, the second item in the dialog is "Folder" where you can choose the folder in which you wish to place it from among your existing folders or create a new one.

         In Bookmarks Manager you can either use emulated drag and drop or, after bringing up the context menu for an existing bookmark, copying its URL, deleting it where it is, navigating to where you want it. then shift+TAB back to the Organize Bookmarks Menu button and create it anew using the URL you copied.

         Every web browser gives you the ability to create bookmarks where you want them in a folder hierarchy and move them around at will.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: switching off space marker.

CJ &AA MAY
 

Thanks for this. I will try it.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 18 March 2019 00:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Hi, Alison. I believe that the Strong, Normal and Weak refer to gramatical
construction within the document. I would suspect that the solution for this
will be in the "proofing" section of Word, within the Options section. You
should be able to reach the options with ALT plus F, followed by the letter
T. Then, once you are in Options, arrow down to proofing.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Whilst we are talking about editing features, In some documents Jaws says
"strong" and "normal" - what is it talking about and is there a way to
switch this feature off?
I am using Office 365 with Jaws 18.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 March 2019 20:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

Hi, Ann. This setting may not affect space markers. On your system, does
turning off New Lines and Paragraphs Indication stop voicing of space
markers?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching off space marker.

there is also a JAWS setting under insert+v.
Under editing: new lines and paragraph indication. It wants to be
off. Well, *you want it to be off, whether it wants to or not.

Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Steve Nutt
 

Bill, this has always been the case to my knowledge.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 15 March 2019 19:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

 

Hi, Jaffar. I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

 

Also, if you are a programmer and use IDES as your programming tool, and if you need a folder source outside of your project to be included, the only way might be to drag that source that you need into your project's window via file explorer and drop it into your project. 

On 3/15/2019 11:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:04 AM, James Homuth wrote:

In which situations will transferring files and folders between applications not work using copy/paste? Genuinely curious, as that’s how I do it on a daily basis.

James, I have an example, though before I give it I will say that I don't even use drag and drop with sight to do this task, preferring the "New" button option then going out and selecting the files I want via a standard open dialog.

If you are using Google Drive, and create a new folder, in the center of the screen for the empty folder it says, "Drop files here, or use the New button."  You can have File Explorer windows open select files until you're blue in the face and use CTRL+C to copy (or CTRL+X if you intended to cut for a move) but you simply cannot paste on that particular Google Drive dialog.  The only thing that works in that instance is drop.

I can also think of instances where electronic versions of "draw the line from thing in column A to the correct corresponding thing in column B" type tests, that are meant to imitate the paper version of same, only work with drag and drop.  That style has fallen out of favor largely due to accessibility issues with it.

Moving the columns displayed in the inbox (and other folders) in Thunderbird can only be (or at least used to only be, I haven't done this in a while) doable via drag and drop.

Because drag and drop is a fundamental feature of every GUI I've ever used, dropping support for it in any screen reader seems to me to be a very, very ill-thought-out decision.   You may not need to use it often, and I actually use copy/cut and paste way more myself, but there are times when it's the only alternative and, if you're a screen reader user and the screen reader doesn't support it, that cuts accessibility right there.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Steve Nutt
 

Bill, why is it a problem to have them all turned on?  Then just use JAWS and F11 and be happy.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 15 March 2019 18:25
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Hi, Brian. The Esset icon is already on, and it always comes up in the overflow area. The only way I can get it to display with JAWS Key plus F11, or Windows plus B, without going into the overflow area is to invoke the link that says turn on all icons in system tray.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Bill,

          If order does not matter as far as where the Eset icon would be constantly visible in the system tray, the easiest thing to do is to open Settings, search on "Select which icons," which will turn up the setting for, "Select which icons appear on the taskbar"  (and, in this case, it's the notification area/system tray area of the taskbar), then finding Eset in the dialog presented and toggling it on.  Anything that gets toggled on in that dialog will be permanently visible in the system tray rather than being pushed to the overflow area which one must access via the notification chevron.

          I have yet to find a technique that allows drag and drop rearrangement of the icons that are shown in the system tray using a screen reader, though one can rearrange them via actual mouse drag and drop.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Steve Nutt
 

To me, it doesn’t matter which order the System Tray icons are, simply because I use JAWS key and F11 to bring up the list of System Tray icons, then press the first letter.  That’s a bit easier than worrying about order, isn’t it?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 15 March 2019 18:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Hi Bill & All,

 

Here's how I rearrange the system tray icons  running Windows 10 Pro Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.379) & all installed versions of Jaws.

1. Windows key + I, for Settings, tab 1 time to System, right arrow to Personalization, and press enter.
2. Navigate to, Taskbar and press enter.
3. Tab several times to, Select which icons appear on the taskbar Link, and press enter.
4. Okay now to put the System Tray in the order you want it in.  Tab through all the icons making a note of which ones you have checked / turned on because you're going to uncheck all of them.
5. Uncheck all the icons.  Now you will go through and check the icons in the order you want them in but keep in mind, they will appear in the reverse order that they are checked.  What I mean is, the 1st one yu check will be at the bottom of the list, the 2nd will be 2nd from the bottom, the 3rd will be 3rd from the bottom etc. etc....  After you're done open the system tray to make sure it's the way you want it and Alt + F4 if it is.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

 

Hi, Chris. What I want to do is rearrange things in System Tray, not actually in the Taskbar, so unpinning things in the Taskbar won't work in this instance. What is actually happening is that I used to have an icon for Eset NOD32, my antivirus program, which was one of the first icons in System Tray. Now, in order to find this icon I must turn on all icons in System Tray, or, use the Notification Icon to go to the overflow section of icons in System Tray. What I want to do is rearrange the icons so that the Eset NOD32 icon is where it used to be.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop.  Although it made the appropriate noises on
my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work.  If you want to do this
the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on
each item and choosing unpin.  Now, open the run box with windows+r and
type shell:appsvolder and press enter.  This will open a folder with
shortcuts to all your apps.  Do the equivalent of right click and pin
any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH







Re: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

Steve Nutt
 

That's a bit of a faf, if all you want to do is move one icon.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: 15 March 2019 15:22
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Rearranging icons on the taskbar.

I tried using drag and drop. Although it made the appropriate noises on my windows 10 computer, it didn't actually work. If you want to do this the simplest way I can think of, do the following.
unpin everything from the taskbar by right-clicking or the equivalent on each item and choosing unpin. Now, open the run box with windows+r and type shell:appsvolder and press enter. This will open a folder with shortcuts to all your apps. Do the equivalent of right click and pin any you want on the taskbar in the order in which you want them.


CH

Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Steve Nutt
 

Yes, as I say, works for me too.

 

Maybe Bill should consider resetting JAWS to factory defaults?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: 15 March 2019 13:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

 

I just did this from my taskbar and moved several items to different places on the taskbar. This works as it always has for me and yes I’m on the latest release.

 

From: Angel <angel238@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

 

I always believed "cut and paste" was an adequate substitute for "drag and drop".  What is the difference?  I abandoned the idea of "drag and drop" several generations of Jaws ago, In favor of the "cut and paste" operation.  I always believed "drag and drop" to be a very unstable action, when employed using the Jaws key stroke.  Beside the Key stroke (I forget what it is now) was very awkward for people with challenges effecting the full use of both hands.   

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

 

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 06:31 PM, JM Casey wrote:

It is nuts that a support person would claim they are the same thing.

I have often, during my now just short of 40 years in computing, uttered the phrase, "Technical support is often neither technical nor supportive"   QED when someone claims cut, copy, and paste substitute for drag and drop.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Steve Nutt
 

No, that's a very simplistic way of doing it.

If you want task bar icons in certain positions, then drag and drop or simulation of it, is the only answer.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: 15 March 2019 09:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

I apologize for the misunderstanding. I never attempted to relocate task bar icons, or to relocate anything excepting text. There was an old program, originally used by windows xp, called power menu. I believe it was adapted for use with later windows products. Which could move program icons to the system trey. Which relocation proved immensely valuable to me. It served to cause less clutter on the task bar itself. The program was a free one. If it still exists it might serve to do what might be wanted. By those who wish to move various icons.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9


Not quite, no. You're literally using the mouse to move things around, like for example icons on your taskbar, or certain web applications that for reasons known only to them will only answer to drag and drop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: March-14-19 11:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

Couldn't one employ the Jaws virtual window. When attempting to transfer material. Which can not be transferred using the cut and paste method?
----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9


Copy and paste work in the areas where they are supposed to work. And that's
good. I sure use them a lot too. But as has been said, it's not the same
thing; not all software has an edit menu with those options and not all
items are clipboard accessible. It's kind of an essential feature and yes,
it's probably worth making a fuss about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: March 14, 2019 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9

i have never used it either. windows copy and paste has been working for me
since windows 95

-----Original Message-----
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9



Well Steve I don t thinhk its not worth crying over spilled megabites sir.
Like
I said I don t use it. Most of us don t so have at it with big bad Vispero
if you want it back.






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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Steve Matzura
<number6@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:42:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and drop removed from JAWS Version 2019.1903.9


I think we all need to tell them to unretire it. What a ridiculous thing to
do--remove a very useful and sometimes very necessary feature.




On 3/14/2019 5:27 PM, Bill White wrote:


Hi, Brian. Vispero says that CONTROL plus JAWS Key plus NumPad slash has
been
retired from JAWS as Drag and Drop. They told me that it was an oversight
that
it has not been removed from the documentation files.



Bill White



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