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moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Brian,

How do you know that the 32 Bit version of Jaws installs, I don't even think a 32 bit version of Jaws would work/run on a 64 bit system.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Dear Diane & List:

You are correct. The offline installer is close to 1 GB mot 1 TB.

While Vispero says their installer can determine the correct version to install, I find it always installs the 32-bit version on my 64-bit system.

Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I thought that 1 TB was 1000 GB, and 1 GB is 1000 MB. Have I forgotten something?

Diane Bomar
On Oct 30, 2019, at 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Bogey
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832 MB which is very close to 1 Terabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.

On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 50's and early 220's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by increased software companies, it's been this
way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft
Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office
365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are
many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40 Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c ds for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigne
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigne
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of George b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Hi Meesha,

 

As John said, you can certainly leave it and I agree that for a while you should. But if you find you always use Jaws 2020 and there are no issues which make it necessary to fall back to Jaws 2019 you can certainly uninstall it. Here is what you do (I assume you have Windows 10):

1. Press Windows Key + X and press enter on “Apps and Features”, it’s the first item in the menu which comes up

2. Tab I think about 6 times until  you get into the list of all the installed programs and apps on your computer

3. Arrow down to “Freedom Scientific Jaws 2019” and press enter to expand it, then tab once to “Uninstall” and press enter.

4. You may have to press Uninstall one more time, but eventually the Jaws 2019 installer starts and you can select to remove it, just make very sure you don’t and I mean “do not” check to remove shared components because if you do Jaws 2020 will also no longer work. You can, if you want, remove the user files by checking that option.

5. Let the uninstallation finish and reboot, there is a good chance Jaws 2020 won’t speak at the logon screen or even after you enter your password, if that is the case just load Jaws 2020 manually, then go into Jaws Options > Basics, tab twice to “Automatically Start Jaws” and make sure the option for Jaws to speak at the logon screen is checked and that it is set to “Always” for speaking after the desktop loads. That’s it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Ok, thanks . I’ll do that.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Just leave it there.

It will not cause you any problem and if something starts acting funny with 2020, you can see if it does the same with 2019 if needed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Thanks Brian for the confirmation😊

So now I have downloaded the online version of JAWS 2020 and installed it on my system and I was expecting it to prompt for authorization however I think it automatically picked it up.

So far…. It seems to run smoothly. And I have two versions now –both 2019 and 2020. I am not sure if I should uninstall 2019 as for some reason I never had a smooth uninstallation of JAWS as whenever I try to uninstall it, it always leaves it’s components and then when I try to install the JAWS, it doesn’t get properly installed like doesn’t give the usual audio feedback etc.

So may be I leave both of these…I hope that wouldn’t be a problem??

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 
moderated Re: J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Hi Orlando,

If you don't mind sending me the file I'd love to try it. If I also have the issue and if you give me permission I'll file an official bug report as a member of the Jaws private beta team, please also let me know if I can share the file with Vispero if they ask for it.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Hi Sieghard.

>First of all this seems to be something which appears to be quite >unique to you since I can easily add stuff to the dictionary.

How many entries are in your dictionary? If you like, I can privately email you my dictionary and you can try adding entries to it.

>Furthermore, I am on the private Jaws beta team and I have heard about >no such bug, in fact, another member of said beta team posted a >message today referring to your post on this list asking if this is a >problem for others.

Since the problem is occurring on both my desktop and laptop, I can only conclude that my dictionary file is the problem. However, everything about it looks fine. All the entries have the same syntax; none use uncommon characters besides accent marks for foreign words.
So, if my file is the problem, I'm itching to find out how to correct it without losing 1100 entries.

>I know It can be frustrating when you encounter an issue which >prevents you from doing things the way you are used to, I spend a lot >of time, in fact, about 2 years corresponding with various people from >Vispero before somebody said they would take this on because they felt >it would be of use not just to me but also to many other people who >use older software for work or their own business. One thing I found >is that it always pays off to approach a company using a reasonable >tone, laying out the problem and letting them know that you understand >that they also are busy, have priorities and they may not get to your >issue right away.

I've always used a cordial and professional tone with every Vispero employee with whom I've interacted, since I know that only the development team can actually look into these issues.
Still, my problem is not just about my inconvenience; it's about what we may need to know in the future when our dictionaries become ever larger. No one wants to part with thousands of entries that have taken years to assemble. So, if there are indeed corrupted portions of JDF files, we need to know how to spot and fix them.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
moderated Re: J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Cristóbal
 

I thought the dictionary entries maxed out at 1000 or so.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique
Fiol via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Hi Sieghard.

>First of all this seems to be something which appears to be quite >unique
to you since I can easily add stuff to the dictionary.

How many entries are in your dictionary? If you like, I can privately email
you my dictionary and you can try adding entries to it.

>Furthermore, I am on the private Jaws beta team and I have heard about
no such bug, in fact, another member of said beta team posted a >message
today referring to your post on this list asking if this is a >problem for
others.

Since the problem is occurring on both my desktop and laptop, I can only
conclude that my dictionary file is the problem. However, everything about
it looks fine. All the entries have the same syntax; none use uncommon
characters besides accent marks for foreign words.
So, if my file is the problem, I'm itching to find out how to correct it
without losing 1100 entries.

>I know It can be frustrating when you encounter an issue which >prevents
you from doing things the way you are used to, I spend a lot >of time, in
fact, about 2 years corresponding with various people from >Vispero before
somebody said they would take this on because they felt >it would be of use
not just to me but also to many other people who >use older software for
work or their own business. One thing I found >is that it always pays off
to approach a company using a reasonable >tone, laying out the problem and
letting them know that you understand >that they also are busy, have
priorities and they may not get to your >issue right away.

I've always used a cordial and professional tone with every Vispero employee
with whom I've interacted, since I know that only the development team can
actually look into these issues.
Still, my problem is not just about my inconvenience; it's about what we may
need to know in the future when our dictionaries become ever larger. No one
wants to part with thousands of entries that have taken years to assemble.
So, if there are indeed corrupted portions of JDF files, we need to know how
to spot and fix them.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
moderated Re: J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

Hi Sieghard.

First of all this seems to be something which appears to be quite
unique to you since I can easily add stuff to the dictionary.
How many entries are in your dictionary? If you like, I can privately email you my dictionary and you can try adding entries to it.

Furthermore, I am on the private Jaws beta team and I have heard about
no such bug, in fact, another member of said beta team posted a
message today referring to your post on this list asking if this is a
problem for others.
Since the problem is occurring on both my desktop and laptop, I can only conclude that my dictionary file is the problem. However, everything about it looks fine. All the entries have the same syntax; none use uncommon characters besides accent marks for foreign words. So, if my file is the problem, I'm itching to find out how to correct it without losing 1100 entries.

I know It can be frustrating when you encounter an issue which
prevents you from doing things the way you are used to, I spend a lot
of time, in fact, about 2 years corresponding with various people from
Vispero before somebody said they would take this on because they felt
it would be of use not just to me but also to many other people who
use older software for work or their own business. One thing I found
is that it always pays off to approach a company using a reasonable
tone, laying out the problem and letting them know that you understand
that they also are busy, have priorities and they may not get to your
issue right away.
I've always used a cordial and professional tone with every Vispero employee with whom I've interacted, since I know that only the development team can actually look into these issues.
Still, my problem is not just about my inconvenience; it's about what we may need to know in the future when our dictionaries become ever larger. No one wants to part with thousands of entries that have taken years to assemble. So, if there are indeed corrupted portions of JDF files, we need to know how to spot and fix them.
Orlando Enrique Fiol
moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Van Lant, Robin
 

My copy of the JAWS 2019 offline installer that I have to use here at work is 535 Megabytes. It did take a while to download. It's annoying, but there is some internet filtering security program we use here that will not allow JAWS to reach out to Freedom Scientific during the regular install process, so we have to use the offline installer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson













































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moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Richard Turner
 

Could people read entire threads before responding?
There have been about 8 messages after Sieghard acknowledged his mistake.
So, perhaps we can let the dead horse lie in peace?
moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Rick Mladek
 

you are also incorrect... 1024 is the number that make up any sise of bits, tb, gb, mb, kb are all 1024 not 1000.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of empacc.net
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

hi:

excuse me!!!

you are quite mistaken.

your math is way off.

1000 megabytes is most definitely not 1 terabyte.

it is 1 gigabyte.

1000 gigabytes is 1 terabyte.

so, again, just to make this clear:

1000 megabytes is 1 gigabyte:

1000 gigabytes is 1 terabyte.

take care.





Howard Wolcott
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains
everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR
components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1
Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws
and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
moderated Re: Jaws 2020

empacc.net
 

hi:

excuse me!!!

you are quite mistaken.

your math is way off.

1000 megabytes is most definitely not 1 terabyte.

it is 1 gigabyte.

1000 gigabytes is 1 terabyte.

so, again, just to make this clear:

1000 megabytes is 1 gigabyte:

1000 gigabytes is 1 terabyte.

take care.





Howard Wolcott

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
moderated Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

ARORA Meesha
 

Ok, thanks. Actually someone mentioned that the auto-installer picked up the wrong version in their case so I wanted to make sure that it has picked up 64 bit in my case.

Since it is working so I suppose it has😊

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

 

The Jaws installer is setup to determine which machine you have and install the correct version.

If you have a 64 bit machine, it won't install a 32 bit version.

I suspect you could look at the properties of the jaws.exe file and find that info, but I wouldn't bother.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:19 AM, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:



Hi,

I have just installed JAWS 2020 online version and I need to verify if it has picked up the right version for my system which is 64bit.

How do I check that?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha

moderated Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

ARORA Meesha
 

Yes, it’s working.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

 

If it is working, I would believe you installed the correct version.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

 

Hi,

I have just installed JAWS 2020 online version and I need to verify if it has picked up the right version for my system which is 64bit.

How do I check that?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha

moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

ARORA Meesha
 

Ok, thanks . I’ll do that.

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Just leave it there.

It will not cause you any problem and if something starts acting funny with 2020, you can see if it does the same with 2019 if needed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Thanks Brian for the confirmation😊

So now I have downloaded the online version of JAWS 2020 and installed it on my system and I was expecting it to prompt for authorization however I think it automatically picked it up.

So far…. It seems to run smoothly. And I have two versions now –both 2019 and 2020. I am not sure if I should uninstall 2019 as for some reason I never had a smooth uninstallation of JAWS as whenever I try to uninstall it, it always leaves it’s components and then when I try to install the JAWS, it doesn’t get properly installed like doesn’t give the usual audio feedback etc.

So may be I leave both of these…I hope that wouldn’t be a problem??

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 
moderated Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

Richard Turner
 

The Jaws installer is setup to determine which machine you have and install the correct version.
If you have a 64 bit machine, it won't install a 32 bit version.
I suspect you could look at the properties of the jaws.exe file and find that info, but I wouldn't bother.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:19 AM, ARORA Meesha <meesha.arora@...> wrote:



Hi,

I have just installed JAWS 2020 online version and I need to verify if it has picked up the right version for my system which is 64bit.

How do I check that?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha

moderated Re: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

John Doering
 

If it is working, I would believe you installed the correct version.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

 

Hi,

I have just installed JAWS 2020 online version and I need to verify if it has picked up the right version for my system which is 64bit.

How do I check that?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha

moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

John Doering
 

Just leave it there.

It will not cause you any problem and if something starts acting funny with 2020, you can see if it does the same with 2019 if needed.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Thanks Brian for the confirmation😊

So now I have downloaded the online version of JAWS 2020 and installed it on my system and I was expecting it to prompt for authorization however I think it automatically picked it up.

So far…. It seems to run smoothly. And I have two versions now –both 2019 and 2020. I am not sure if I should uninstall 2019 as for some reason I never had a smooth uninstallation of JAWS as whenever I try to uninstall it, it always leaves it’s components and then when I try to install the JAWS, it doesn’t get properly installed like doesn’t give the usual audio feedback etc.

So may be I leave both of these…I hope that wouldn’t be a problem??

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 
moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Dave Durber
 

I think you mean GigaByte, not Terrabyte

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: 31 October, 2019 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020


I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's
behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of
plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD
drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly
small setup program which means it does not contain all the files
needed for installation, instead it will download what is required
from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been
this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and
Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to
Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like
this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I
mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep
the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year
from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever
is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the
version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over
40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections
nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about
32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and
knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR
component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very
slow internet connection where it's better to have everything
downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire
DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download
and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and
would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving
the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal
Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson
moderated How to check if 64bit or 32bit JAWS 2020 has been installed

ARORA Meesha
 

Hi,

I have just installed JAWS 2020 online version and I need to verify if it has picked up the right version for my system which is 64bit.

How do I check that?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha

moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

ARORA Meesha
 

Thanks Brian for the confirmation😊

So now I have downloaded the online version of JAWS 2020 and installed it on my system and I was expecting it to prompt for authorization however I think it automatically picked it up.

So far…. It seems to run smoothly. And I have two versions now –both 2019 and 2020. I am not sure if I should uninstall 2019 as for some reason I never had a smooth uninstallation of JAWS as whenever I try to uninstall it, it always leaves it’s components and then when I try to install the JAWS, it doesn’t get properly installed like doesn’t give the usual audio feedback etc.

So may be I leave both of these…I hope that wouldn’t be a problem??

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 
moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Rick Mladek
 

to be exact, 1 Tb is 1024 Gb of which is 1024 Mb of which is 1024 Kb of which is 1024 B

 

Test on Friday...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Actually, 1 Terabyte is 1000 gigabytes.

1 gigabyte is 1000 megabytes.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 



On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What math? 1 Terabyte is 1000 Megabytes and saying that 832 Megabytes is almost 1 Terabyte I think it not an incorrect statement.
I never said the regular installer was that large, but the Offline installer is.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Really? I'm certainly not the list know-it-all but that math seems a little fuzzy to me...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I am talking about the offline installer. As the name implies, it contains everything you could possibly need for an installation, all the OCR components, help files and so on and it is 832MB which is very close to 1 Terrabyte.
If you don't believe me go to the Freedom Scientific download page for Jaws and select the "Offline installer for secure environments".




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.



On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty

Hutchings

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

500 or 600 GB?

 

 

 

Love in Christ

Marty

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the

rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,

against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to

resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's

behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of

plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD

drive for many years.

The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly

small setup program which means it does not contain all the files

needed for installation, instead it will download what is required

from the web.

This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been

this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and

Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to

Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like

this and so are many others.

The one difference between installers like most of the ones I

mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep

the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year

from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever

is the latest version.

For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the

version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over

40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections

nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about

32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and

knows which to install.

The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR

component during the installation.

If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very

slow internet connection where it's better to have everything

downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire

DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download

and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and

would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.

They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving

the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal

Lavigna

Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Importance: High

 

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading

somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FTranscriptsByLoreal&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb00af6860acd4961648d08d75db989ae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637080923765829910&amp;sdata=kCoBsD3EndumMoFV4fsEYB9VQdjv49v%2FHqLWK%2F%2Bx%2BGY%3D&amp;reserved=0

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that

they are not sending out c d's anymore.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard

Weitzel

Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue

this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out

DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the

DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release

which you would get on the DVD.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

 

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM

Subject: Jaws 2020

 

 

Hi list:

 

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,

and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

David S. Pearson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
moderated Re: How to update JAWS 2020

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Meesha & List:

Any time I have updated my JAWS version previously, I have had to download the new JAWS
from the FS.com web site.

 

The check for updates function of JAWS only checks for updates to the version

you are running.

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to update JAWS 2020

 

Hello,

I currently have JAWS 2019 running on my system and I am entitled to JAWS 2020 as a part of my SMA. I would like to confirm whether I need to download JAWS 2020 on my system separately or it will automatically be updated if I click “Check for updates” in JAWS 2019 help option?

 

 

 

Thanks,

Meesha Arora

Accounts Receivable’s Team

Assistant Finance Manager

Phone: 0121 635 4522

Internal: 830-4522

Sopra Steria

Email : meesha.arora@...

 
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