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moderated Re: New computer specs

Feliciano G
 

256GB is not all that much when you factor in OS/ software, files, media and back ups over a 6 year period. from devices.


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On Aug 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
The GPU does not free up the processor whatsoever and, in fact, is a
completely different animal than a processor.
The GPU in your machine may not, in fact, be used if you are getting 15
hours of batterylife. There is something called Optymous technology from
Nvidia that when used, allows the independent graphics card to power off
while the dedicated Intel HD graphics does its thing, and that sounds
exactly what is going on in your use case.
Few people seem to realize that shift f10 performs the exact same action as
applications key - and barring that, you can use sharp keys to remap a key
to the right of the space bar to that if you so choose.

Regarding the comment about an SSD not lasting long - I have a Toshiba
laptop here from 2012 that still has 85% of its life remaining. In that time
I have had 5 mechanical drives fail, without warning, and only 2 of which
made any actual noise to tell me so. These days if a laptop or computer in
general does not shut down, you will get a message popping up on screen from
your screen reader if you have it set to run at log on, telling you the
following programs are still running in the background and giving you the
option to shut down anyway or cancel. The benefits of a solid state drive to
batterylife and speed are so beyond amazing compared with a spinning
mechanical drive. Expect the machine to boot in less than 30 seconds
regardless what programs run at startup - add another 15 or 20, maybe, to
get said programs running. You can start using the machine as soon as the
screen reader is running, no more waiting to get to the desktop to check a
simple email or modify one line in a word document. Resuming from sleep
happens in less than 1.5 seconds these days.
Far more pluses than drawbacks, in my view.

Just my $.02!



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: August 25, 2019 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hi all,

Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they
often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is
very annoying!

I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a
couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It
seems to be working well with minimal lags.

I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have
all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and
I can't remember which key Dell didn't have.

In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and
upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15
hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad
which I don't need anyway).

It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to
sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics
card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards
that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card
in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with
minimal lags.

I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and
whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and
some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet.

I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps
you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck.

Zel
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and
maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands
of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything
larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a
500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the
sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew






















moderated Re: New computer specs

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
The GPU does not free up the processor whatsoever and, in fact, is a
completely different animal than a processor.
The GPU in your machine may not, in fact, be used if you are getting 15
hours of batterylife. There is something called Optymous technology from
Nvidia that when used, allows the independent graphics card to power off
while the dedicated Intel HD graphics does its thing, and that sounds
exactly what is going on in your use case.
Few people seem to realize that shift f10 performs the exact same action as
applications key - and barring that, you can use sharp keys to remap a key
to the right of the space bar to that if you so choose.

Regarding the comment about an SSD not lasting long - I have a Toshiba
laptop here from 2012 that still has 85% of its life remaining. In that time
I have had 5 mechanical drives fail, without warning, and only 2 of which
made any actual noise to tell me so. These days if a laptop or computer in
general does not shut down, you will get a message popping up on screen from
your screen reader if you have it set to run at log on, telling you the
following programs are still running in the background and giving you the
option to shut down anyway or cancel. The benefits of a solid state drive to
batterylife and speed are so beyond amazing compared with a spinning
mechanical drive. Expect the machine to boot in less than 30 seconds
regardless what programs run at startup - add another 15 or 20, maybe, to
get said programs running. You can start using the machine as soon as the
screen reader is running, no more waiting to get to the desktop to check a
simple email or modify one line in a word document. Resuming from sleep
happens in less than 1.5 seconds these days.
Far more pluses than drawbacks, in my view.

Just my $.02!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: August 25, 2019 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hi all,

Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they
often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is
very annoying!

I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a
couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It
seems to be working well with minimal lags.

I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have
all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and
I can't remember which key Dell didn't have.

In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and
upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15
hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad
which I don't need anyway).

It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to
sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics
card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards
that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card
in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with
minimal lags.

I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and
whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and
some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet.

I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps
you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck.

Zel
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and
maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands
of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything
larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a
500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the
sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew










moderated Re: New computer specs

Mario
 

I recall that there were issues with graphics cards from ATI. most of
the time, NVIDIA cards worked okay. but that hasn't been an issue for
some time.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, August 25, 2019, 12:59 AM
Subject: New computer specs

The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing
large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy
software, which most people do not do.
And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards
he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.
Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.
I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now
for a year.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

Hi,
This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being
better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so
far as
Jaws is concerned.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail,
open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much.  I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce.  I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive.  It turned out to
be a  windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it
booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew


moderated Re: RestoringtJaws access

Mario
 

in my experience, it's painfully slow in responding to keystrokes (aside
of expiring after 40 minutes) when JAWS has not been authorized.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Durber [mailto:d.durber@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, August 25, 2019, 4:37 AM
Subject: RestoringtJaws access

Hello:

Even though JAWS is running in Demo Mode , you have access to all its
functions and features during the 40 minute demo.

HTH

----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Mcdevitt" <jhmcdev@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 4:39 AM
Subject: RestoringtJaws access




Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete
reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up
being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my
authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to
Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s  Full
capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin








.


moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Richard Turner
 

Which model is this?

Is this over Bluetooth with a VOIP phone that is run through the computer?

I came in late on this, so sorry if that was already covered but I didn't find the previous conversation.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Plantronics does offer a duel channel headphone where you can listen to jaws on one side and the individual on the phone, on the other. I do have this exact headset and it works excellently.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and phone in the same input

Still looking for a way for someone to hear/speak into the phone and also listen to JAWS at the same time. Will Plantronics do this, does anyone know?

thanks


moderated Re: having trouble with a web page

 

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 07:08 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
That's certainly interesting. It does
make it confusing for sure.
I, truly, cannot imagine what it's like for screen reader users faced with the continuous changes to web coding that have gone on for years and show no sign of stopping.

No matter how quickly screen reader makers integrate access to what shakes out as "gonna stick around" after a short time, the next round of "let's come up with something else, that doesn't do anything all that much different than established method X, just for the fun of it" occurs.    There are times, and from what I can see on this page as a sighted user, and how that search box works, this would be a major improvement if the screen reader and web object/control played well together, which clearly they do not at the moment.  Maybe eventually they will.

This is one reason, when it's readily available, that I tell my clients not to hesitate to seek sighted assistance when something just isn't working.   You can often spend hours and hours, getting more and more [justifiably] frustrated, and still not achieve the end you're looking for.   The control/object in question was entirely new to me, too, but being able to see what was happening and what the screen reader was/was not doing in response to it made all the difference.  It's about accomplishing something with the minimum of time and trouble possible, which often involves calling for help (whether sighted or not, as this group illustrates on a regular basis).

If you do the above every two seconds, that's when people eventually come at you with knives!  ;-)

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: New computer specs

David & his pack of dogs
 

Zel, you've got the job. LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: August 25, 2019 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hi all,

Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they
often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is
very annoying!

I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a
couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It
seems to be working well with minimal lags.

I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have
all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and
I can't remember which key Dell didn't have.

In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and
upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15
hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad
which I don't need anyway).

It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to
sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics
card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards
that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card
in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with
minimal lags.

I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and
whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and
some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet.

I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps
you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck.

Zel
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and
maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands
of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything
larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a
500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the
sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted
up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew










moderated Re: JAWS and phone in the same input

Rick Mladek
 

Plantronics does offer a duel channel headphone where you can listen to jaws
on one side and the individual on the phone, on the other. I do have this
exact headset and it works excellently.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and phone in the same input

Still looking for a way for someone to hear/speak into the phone and also
listen to JAWS at the same time. Will Plantronics do this, does anyone
know?

thanks


moderated Re: Changing Jaws Key

Zel Iscel
 

Oh, I just found it. Sorry to bother you. And thank you very much for your help.

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 9:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing Jaws Key

 

Thanks Randy.

 Following your instructions, I get the option of insert, capslock or scroll lock. When I chose the insert key, it only allows me to use the key above delete. I was hoping to use the insert key at the bottom row, to the left of the delete key. Is there any way I can specify which insert key I want?

 

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 3:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing Jaws Key

 

Hi, press jaws key plus 6 then press ctrl plus shift plus D for the jaws default settings, then in the search field type jaws key Then tab once and down arrow once then press space bar until you get the key you want for the Jaws key.

On 8/22/2019 11:46 AM, Zel Iscel wrote:

Hi all,

 

By default, if you set the keyboard layout to desktop, you should be able to use the insert key. However, in desktop layout my PC still only allows me to use the capslock key as the Jaws key. I know you can manually change the Jaws key but can’t remember how to do it. Can anyone please remind me?

Kind regards

Zel


moderated JAWS and phone in the same input

Ann Byrne
 

Still looking for a way for someone to hear/speak into the phone and also listen to JAWS at the same time. Will Plantronics do this, does anyone know?

thanks


moderated Re: Changing Jaws Key

Zel Iscel
 

Thanks Randy.

 Following your instructions, I get the option of insert, capslock or scroll lock. When I chose the insert key, it only allows me to use the key above delete. I was hoping to use the insert key at the bottom row, to the left of the delete key. Is there any way I can specify which insert key I want?

 

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2019 3:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changing Jaws Key

 

Hi, press jaws key plus 6 then press ctrl plus shift plus D for the jaws default settings, then in the search field type jaws key Then tab once and down arrow once then press space bar until you get the key you want for the Jaws key.

On 8/22/2019 11:46 AM, Zel Iscel wrote:

Hi all,

 

By default, if you set the keyboard layout to desktop, you should be able to use the insert key. However, in desktop layout my PC still only allows me to use the capslock key as the Jaws key. I know you can manually change the Jaws key but can’t remember how to do it. Can anyone please remind me?

Kind regards

Zel


moderated Re: Reading notes in PowerPoint

Zel Iscel
 

Hi Anne,

Press alt and w similtaniously, then t. Press alt and w, then l to get back to the normal view.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading notes in PowerPoint

The PowerPoint presentation I am looking at says "has notes". When I press shift-ctrl-n to read the notes, JAWS just says "press f6 or shift-f6". No notes read. How do I get JAWS to read the stinkin' notes?

thanks,

Ann


moderated Re: New computer specs

Zel Iscel
 

Hi all,

Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I find they often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself regularly, which is very annoying!

I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so a couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb ram. It seems to be working well with minimal lags.

I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't have all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an apps key and I can't remember which key Dell didn't have.

In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB RAM and upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb SSD storage, 15 hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the keys (except a numpad which I don't need anyway).

It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing to sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent graphics card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent graphics cards that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an independent graphics card in order to free up the processor so I can do the things I need to do with minimal lags.

I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar), and whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test websites and some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any that I like yet.

I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this helps you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck.

Zel

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew










moderated Re: RestoringtJaws access

Dave Durber
 

Hello Chris:

He can do that, as long as he has keys on the sight, which can be used to activate JAWS.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: RestoringtJaws access


You shouldn't have to call them. If you have your serial number and all that good stuff, go over to fsactivate.com and you should be able to do what you need.



On 8/24/2019 22:39, Justin Mcdevitt wrote:

Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s Full capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin


moderated Re: RestoringtJaws access

Chris Hill
 

You shouldn't have to call them.  If you have your serial number and all that good stuff, go over to fsactivate.com and you should be able to do what you need.

On 8/24/2019 22:39, Justin Mcdevitt wrote:

Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s Full capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin


moderated Re: New computer specs

Chris Hill
 

For the use case you specify later, you probably won't benefit from the i9, an i7 would do you fine for many years.  I'd put some of that money into a bigger ssd drive.  I also wouldn't buy the separate video card, what you are doing isn't going to tax video at all.  If the machine can hold it, get 16gb of ram.  Avoid any machine that talks about gaming, unless you know for a fact it has stereo speakers.  Believe it or not, I have a dell gaming machine that has one speaker and a sub-woofer.  If I'd known when I bought it, I wouldn't have.

On 8/24/2019 23:21, Andrew Diederick wrote:
Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




moderated Re: New computer specs

Gerald Levy
 

Everybody and his uncle claims that SSD's are superior to HD's. But I have read that although they are faster and more mechanically reliable than HD's, they are more prone to data errors as their memory cells wear out, and so they may not last as long.  Also, they emit almost no noise, so if you purchase a Windows 10 laptop that lacks a DVD drive, there is really no reliable means to tell for sure that it has powered off completely after a shutdown has been initiated because there is no shutdown sound.  At least with an HD, you can usually feel it spinning when the power is on.


Gerald

On 8/25/2019 2:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:
Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew













moderated Re: RestoringtJaws access

Dave Durber
 

Hello:

Even though JAWS is running in Demo Mode , you have access to all its functions and features during the 40 minute demo.

HTH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Mcdevitt" <jhmcdev@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 4:39 AM
Subject: RestoringtJaws access




Sent from my iPhone hello Group,
Recently I had some issues with my PC which required a complete reinstallation of windows and the maintenance of other issues.
After bringing it home today I attempted to open Jaws which ended up being limited to a 40 minute trial mode. As I do not have my authorization number written down, I probably will not have access to Jaws until I make contact with freedom scientific this Monday.
In the meantime is there a way that I can access Jaws and itp’s Full capacity.
I would appreciate any and all assistance.
Best, Justin



moderated Re: New computer specs

 

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows 10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he was
dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was a
refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out to
be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted up.
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the
ones who do. -Steve Jobs

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick
<andrew.diederick@...>
wrote:

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
these
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should
make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew










moderated Re: New computer specs

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Diederick <andrew.diederick@...>
Sent: Aug 24, 2019 11:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New computer specs

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of these specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-
Andrew




Don't forget about a usb keyboard just in case your laptop doesn't have a full keyboard layout semular to a desktop system would but also check to see if the ram could be upgraded to 64gb ram of course. Remember you still have to allow jaws to have a significant amount of ram to run in the background while other processes are going on.