Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

David Griffith

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

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Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha

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Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

David Griffith

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha

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Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha

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As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha

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I think this would only be possible if either you could alt-tab to the other clock, or if it could be assigned a hot key.

Try Insert F11 to bring up the system tray icons and see if both of your clocks show up there.

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha

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                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi,

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I'm hearing good things about this browser.  What should I know about
it--set up, accessibility, navigation, etc.?  Thanks.

I'm hearing good things about this browser.  What should I know about it--set up, accessibility, navigation, etc.?  Thanks.

Hi,
Wow! If that's the case, that's really sad.
What do we do now?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 2:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job asareasonableaccommodation

last I heard, John Martyn, the creator of the website and scripts has abandoned the maintenance of all of his scripts since 2015-2016.


On 11/14/2019 1:23 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

Yes, I do.

Here is the link.

I don’t see a price.

https://doitblind.com/shop/

Thanks,

Jessica

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job
asareasonableaccommodation

Where did you find them? Do you have a link?

It is possible that they only work with specific versions of Jaws.

David Griffith

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Windows 10

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*Sent: *14 November 2019 17:21
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job
asareasonableaccommodation

Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to
install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:10 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as
areasonableaccommodation

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about! An Office product
which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

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Windows 10

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*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as
areasonableaccommodation

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus
on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that
Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should
support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development
hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based
software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and
features of mainline software. Let those who have the know how and
time develop scripts for less commonly used software. You can’t get
everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend
development hours to meet the most needs. Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator
development will serve One Note.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *David
Griffith
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonableaccommodation

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work
properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to
buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is
especially the case if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to
purchase third party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft
product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring
people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office
suite like Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be
required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft
Office and the increasing used One Note. They should come with Jaws.
Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment
software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably
have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training
to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for Windows 10

*From: *Jessica D <mailto:jldail13@gmail.com>
*Sent: *14 November 2019 04:27
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonableaccommodation

Hi,

When using onenote, jaws won't read the sidebar.

I'm not even sure how to get to the sidebar.

Has Freedom scientific given a training on this topic?

If not, they definately should.

Thanks,

Jessica

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca
<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:



I think you would need to be a bit more specific. What exactly does
not work with your Office 365 installation?

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Jessica D
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*Subject:* Re: Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonable accommodation

Hi,

No, I think its onenote in general.

Can anyone tell me how to get the office 365 version to work
properly with jaws 2020?

Thanks,

Jessica

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Michael Walker
<michael.walker199014@gmail.com
<mailto:michael.walker199014@gmail.com>> wrote:



What note taking alternatives would you use?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com
<mailto:rodalcidonis@gmail.com>> wrote:

Onenote does not work reliably with JAWS – I
reported this to the accessibility desk a while ago. It is
very sluggish and from my point of view unusable.

Rod,


Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

*From:*Walker, Michael E. (UMSL-Student)

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:13 AM

*To:*jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

*Subject:*Question about OneNote 2016 on the job as a
reasonable accommodation

Hi, I am struggling to find reputable information that
suggests using OneNote 2016 effectively on the job with
jaws. What would you recommend? The Microsoft Disability
answer desk is telling me to use one note for windows 10.
However, there are security challenges in my company,
because of how cloud centric that is. The only alternative I
have found is to export OneNote 2016 notebooks to word or
PDF. What are your thoughts? I am trying to work with my
reasonable accommodation focal. Thank you.



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.

I think fs just like Apple is focused on a release a year rather than content.  Lately the updates offer little that the majority of users need.  There isn’t that much money if they wait until they have something major to release.

I just tried running One Note for Office 16 version and I can tell it is awkward.

Just to check I got most joy with getting to more useful parts of the screen by using the F6 key to circulate through the different elements of the screen.

Have you been doing this?

I also found control alt and M opened up a move dialogue for moving pages in One Note though I did not pursue this as I had only   typed a load of rubbish to create a test note.

I will have a look to see if there is a list of any useful keyboard shortcuts which may help more.

David  Griffith

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Robin, Microsoft is promoting OneNote for Windows 10, which is a stand-alone cloud-centric app. OneNote 2016 is what is needed in my company. It is more centric to local storage, and putting notebooks on file shares. This is why I put 2016 in the subject of the email, when I started this thread.

Here is the link to the webinar Microsoft Accessibility did in April on One Note.  I haven’t listened to it, but hopefully  there are some good nuggets of info in here.

http://aka.ms/april2019webinar

Robin

I found the following website which may help those struggling with One Note as it has many keyboard shortcut suggestions.

http://www.doitblind.com/guides/index.php?guide=oneNote

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi,

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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Robin, Microsoft is promoting OneNote for Windows 10, which is a stand-alone cloud-centric app. OneNote 2016 is what is needed in my company. It is more centric to local storage, and putting notebooks on file shares. This is why I put 2016 in the subject of the email, when I started this thread.

Here is the link to the webinar Microsoft Accessibility did in April on One Note.  I haven’t listened to it, but hopefully  there are some good nuggets of info in here.

http://aka.ms/april2019webinar

Robin

I found the following website which may help those struggling with One Note as it has many keyboard shortcut suggestions.

http://www.doitblind.com/guides/index.php?guide=oneNote

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

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David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

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Here is the link to the webinar Microsoft Accessibility did in April on One Note.  I haven’t listened to it, but hopefully  there are some good nuggets of info in here.

http://aka.ms/april2019webinar

Robin

I found the following website which may help those struggling with One Note as it has many keyboard shortcut suggestions.

http://www.doitblind.com/guides/index.php?guide=oneNote

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                Hi,

I found some scripts online, called OneNote blind, but I wasn’t able to install them on my machine, because a dialog told me I couldn’t.

What happened to cause this?

There were no details, just a close button.

Thanks,

Jessica

But this is Microsoft Office we are talking about!  An Office product which is widely used across employment. How much more core could this be?

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

David,

I get your frustration, but I also think JAWS developers need to focus on the core products used by a majority of users. I could argue that Microsoft Project and Visio are mainline products that JAWS should support, but I also understand that it would take a lot of development hours to serve a small group of potential users of such visually based software. Far better that JAWS development focus on stability and features of mainline software.   Let those who have the know how and time develop scripts for less commonly used software.  You can’t get everything for free and companies have to choses were to spend development hours to meet the most needs.  Now, maybe Microsoft Narrator development will serve One Note. 

As I understand it Jaws “out of the box” has never been able to work properly with One Note. For this reason someone in employment needs to buy 3^rd party scripts to make them productive with One Note. This is especially the case  if they are using Jaws without sight.

I agree that it is not defensible for VFO to require their Users to purchase third  party scripts to make such a main stream Microsoft product work effectively for employees. It is a bit like requiring people by scripts to enable access to other parts of the same Office suite like  Word Excel or PowerPoint.

Scripts are a powerful extender to access with Jaws but should not be required for widely used mainstream employment products like Microsoft Office and the increasing used One Note. They should  come with Jaws. Scripts should be reserved / needed for vertical specialist employment software.

Having said that if you are employment now then I think you probably have little choice but to purchase scripts and the associated training to boost your productivity and protect yourself.

One example of the scripts at least are on.

https://www.hartgen.org/bhonenotewonder

David griffithSent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi,

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