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Used computer
Marty Hutchings
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS. It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using 2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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Re: research it and weather?
JM Casey
Someone, possibly from Vispero, told someone else on a list recently that a total revamping of ResearchIt is in the works. Not sure it’s really a big priority though as all information is easily obtainable from the web and other apps.
The Windows 10 calculator comes with a currency converter, if you’d rather use that one.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: November 15, 2019 7:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: research it and weather?
Hi group ken here just using jaws for the first time in a while I noticed research it has many fewer options than before. I’m aware the sport scores have been gone since the jaws 2018 version but I noticed also that weather is gone now too. Jaws is only a backup and using in 40 minute mode but does anyone on group know if newer options will be added to research it soon? I do see a convert money option I guess that means if I was going to another country I can look up how much of that country’s money equals a dollar. I thought some of those other features scores read very well and they don’t when using cortana also if you use alexa you don’t really get complete scores and the tell me info line is gone. Any ideas?
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research it and weather?
ken lawrence
Hi group ken here just using jaws for the first time in a while I noticed research it has many fewer options than before. I’m aware the sport scores have been gone since the jaws 2018 version but I noticed also that weather is gone now too. Jaws is only a backup and using in 40 minute mode but does anyone on group know if newer options will be added to research it soon? I do see a convert money option I guess that means if I was going to another country I can look up how much of that country’s money equals a dollar. I thought some of those other features scores read very well and they don’t when using cortana also if you use alexa you don’t really get complete scores and the tell me info line is gone. Any ideas?
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
David Griffith
When you use the Windows 10 command the inbuilt apps are listed as well. I think it is important that people know that some aspects of Windows 10, for example Mail and People are accessible as well, as is apparently World Clock from the Store. I think the News app is accessible as well but I need to check it as it is some time since I used it. David Griffith.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 23:20 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
I did create a list of installed programs using the JAWS history and the Control Panel/programs. I noticed on your list that you included Narrator and other Windows features. Any reason for that? Those did not come up on my list from Control Panel.
Love in Christ
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8. I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature. From memory in Windows 7 to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed. Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard. However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.
David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Marty Hutchings
Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7? I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.
Love in Christ
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion. As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws. I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea. If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue, shell:AppsFolder command and press enter This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system. You can simply arrow down to review then all. Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut . For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c. Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file. Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system. As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution. In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws. Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system. I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried. As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group. Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ
Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one. Thanks, Meesha
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
Marty Hutchings
I did create a list of installed programs using the JAWS history and the
Control Panel/programs. I noticed on your list that you included Narrator
and other Windows features. Any reason for that? Those did not come
up on my list from Control Panel.
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8. I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature. From memory in Windows 7 to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed. Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard. However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.
David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
Marty Hutchings
Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7? I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.
Love in
Christ
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion. As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws. I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea. If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue, shell:AppsFolder command and press enter This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system. You can simply arrow down to review then all. Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut . For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c. Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file. Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system. As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution. In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws. Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system. I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA
Meesha
Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried. As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group. Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero. Thanks Meesha
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Griffith
Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ARORA Meesha
Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ
Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Griffith
As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA
Meesha
Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ARORA Meesha
Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one. Thanks, Meesha
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
David Griffith
My apologies – I forgot that this was a Windows 10 tip , and also I believe Windows 8. I don’t believe earlier versions of Windows have the same feature. From memory in Windows 7 to get similar results you could go to control panel add remove programs and from there you could get a list of programs installed. Using Jaws virtualise windows command jaws alt and W I think you can then you can copy to the clipboard. However as I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I cannot test this out for you.
David Griffith. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: 15 November 2019 20:27 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7? I tried entering ‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not available or something.
Love in Christ
From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion. As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws. I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea. If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue, shell:AppsFolder command and press enter This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system. You can simply arrow down to review then all. Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut . For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c. Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file. Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system. As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution. In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws. Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system. I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried. As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group. Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ
Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one. Thanks, Meesha
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
Marty Hutchings
Can you tell me how to get this list in Windows 7? I tried entering
‘'”shell:AppsFolder command” in the Windows Run
Dialog box, but was given an error message saying that that file was not
available or something.
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:12 AM
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion. As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws. I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea. If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue, shell:AppsFolder command and press enter This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system. You can simply arrow down to review then all. Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut . For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c. Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file. Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system. As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution. In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws. Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system. I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
ARORA Meesha
Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried. As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group. Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero. Thanks Meesha
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Griffith
Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ARORA Meesha
Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ
Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Griffith
As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
ARORA Meesha
Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one. Thanks, Meesha
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
Randy Barnett
I followed my own advice and reproduce the list of programs on my
system that I have used at least once or twice with Jaws can think
is accessible. Some programs I have used more than others. I have
used MP3Direct cut hundreds of times but Audacity less so if people
want any clarification of the programs I use then the amount of
feedback I will be able to give will vary.
HW-CPU system monitoring Thunderbird
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
andy.tidwell
Hello, I have no problems reading the page from APH I am running windows 1909, jaws 2020 and internet explorer 11. When I opened the page it landed at the top and I was able to read it all the way through.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
To add to this, I can open it just fine in Firefox, Chrome and IE11
From: Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Hi Jessica, Which browser are you using? I find that with IE, sometimes a page seems to not load, and when I do number pad insert + 3 it will say 100%, so often if I do insert + F7 to list links, it will list the links on the page, and then I can escape out of that, and my cursor will be at the bottom of the page, so I do control + home and start over with the page fully available. I don't know why this sometimes happens, but it does. Once in a while too, when a page does not seem to open in IE, you can do control + F6 or do a shift tab and you will be in the usable page.
HTH. Glenn
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Marty Hutchings
I just read this article just fine with JAWS 2019 and Firefox on my Windows
7 computer.
Love in
Christ
Marty For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Ephesians 6:12, 13
Hi, I’m not sure why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Jessica Hi, I don’t know why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Jessica D
Hi,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
My computer had to do an update, and after it restarted, all is well.
On Nov 15, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Dan Longmore
Hi, Works ok in Google Chrome. Most likely issue is with the browser. Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Hi, I’m not sure why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Jessica Hi, I don’t know why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
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Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS
Cohn, Jonathan
Probably should be a new topic now, but in any case... I believe that groups.io provides a wikki space for the group. If this is the case, we could create a page of apps known to work with JAWS.
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Don Mauck
Jessica, I’m using Google Chrome Version 78.0.3904.97
From: Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Hi, I'm using the latest version of chrome.
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Don Mauck
To add to this, I can open it just fine in Firefox, Chrome and IE11
From: Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 9:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Hi Jessica, Which browser are you using? I find that with IE, sometimes a page seems to not load, and when I do number pad insert + 3 it will say 100%, so often if I do insert + F7 to list links, it will list the links on the page, and then I can escape out of that, and my cursor will be at the bottom of the page, so I do control + home and start over with the page fully available. I don't know why this sometimes happens, but it does. Once in a while too, when a page does not seem to open in IE, you can do control + F6 or do a shift tab and you will be in the usable page.
HTH. Glenn
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Jessica D
Hi,
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I'm using the latest version of chrome.
On Nov 15, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Glenn / Lenny
Hi Jessica,
Which browser are you using?
I find that with IE, sometimes a page seems to not
load, and when I do number pad insert + 3 it will say 100%, so often if I do
insert + F7 to list links, it will list the links on the page, and then I can
escape out of that, and my cursor will be at the bottom of the page, so I do
control + home and start over with the page fully available.
I don't know why this sometimes happens, but it
does.
Once in a while too, when a page does not seem to
open in IE, you can do control + F6 or do a shift tab and you will be in the
usable page.
HTH.
Glenn
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Re: Help, jaws won't read this page.
David Griffith
It is working fine here. Have you tried restarting? What version of Jaws browser windows are you using. I used Jaws 2020 Brave and Windows 10 I copy below the article so you can read it but of course you will not be able to access the links I deleted all the links at the top..
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From: Jessica D
Sent: 15 November 2019 16:10 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Help, jaws won't read this page.
Hi, I’m not sure why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Jessica Hi, I don’t know why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
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Help, jaws won't read this page.
Jessica D
Hi, I’m not sure why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Jessica Hi, I don’t know why, but jaws won’t read this page. Can anyone help?
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Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
David Griffith
I followed my own advice and reproduce the list of programs on my system that I have used at least once or twice with Jaws can think is accessible. Some programs I have used more than others. I have used MP3Direct cut hundreds of times but Audacity less so if people want any clarification of the programs I use then the amount of feedback I will be able to give will vary. By the way in creating the application folder tip I gave earlier I forgot to remember that you get more joy arrowing rightwards rather than with the down arrow in reading what all your installed apps are.
Anyway here we go as a start list.
N.B rather than reproduce all these People could perhaps add programs that they are using to this list and I can try and consolidate it all into a master list.
Programs I am personally using with Jaws.
7-Zip ABBYY FineReader 12 Audacity Audible Manager and downloader Balabolka (eBook TTS Reader) BBC iPlayer TV (Webbie) BBC iPlayer Radio (Webbie) Belarc Advisor (Diagnostics) Brave Browser Bookworm (eBook reader – only just installed) Bulk Rename Utility CDex 1.71 (CD Ripper) CD Burner XP (CD Burner – have only used to limited extent) CloseAll (Closes all windows and applications running) Clock2 (Webbie Accessibility Suite) Copy file Names Copy Path Codex eBook Converter. Daisy Book Generator DirZip (for creating separate zips of several folders in a directory. Dropbox DVD Audio Extractor Eloquence Excel Explorer ++ Firefox Portable Format Factory (File Conversion) FreeM4B to Mp3 converter FSReader 3 GoldWave Google Chrome Humanware Companion (For Victor reader Devices) Internet Explorer Inaudible Audible book Converter iCloud (for transfer to iPone and iPad) iTunes IrfanView (image viewer- now only use to Jaws OCR on) Jarte +(Wordpad Replacement with spellchecker and other features) Jaws 2019 JAWS 2020 Kindle Accessible Version Kurzweil 1000 v. 14 NVDA Master Seeker (Fast file finder) Microsoft Edge Mp3Directcut (easy editing of mp3 files) MP3Gain(increase volume of mp3 files) MP3Tag (edit and quickly create mp3 ags) Narrator Notepad Office OneDrive Outlook Outlook Address Book View. (allows more reliable and easier viewing and saving of contacts) Open Book QCast (Podcast downloader) QRead (eBook Reader) OverDrive for Windows People Ponte's Media Downloader (Youtube downloader) Podcast downloader (Webbie Accessibility Suite) Plextext transfer (For use with Pllextalk Daisy Readers) RSS Reader (Webbie Accessibility Suite) Sendspace Wizard Sharp Keys (For remapping keyboard) Speak On Media Suite (For accessing RNIB Newspapers etc) Spotify SyncBack Free (Back up utility) Switch (Media Converter) Task Manager Tapin Radio TextAloud 3 (Creates TTS Audio Books) Team Viewer (Remote Screen sharing) TWBlue (Twitter Client) Unchecki (Stops Adware and Malware by unchecking boxes in installs) VLC media player Windows Media Player Waterfox Portable Word WordPad Virtual Recorder (Records output from sound car)
Hope we can start something here. of
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From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 November 2019 14:12 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs
I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion. As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws. I can offer one tip to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea. If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue, shell:AppsFolder command and press enter This will open a list view with all the apps you have on your system. You can simply arrow down to review then all. Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut . For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c. Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file. Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system. As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution. In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws. Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system. I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.
David Griffith
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From: ARORA Meesha
Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried. As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group. Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store but I was not sure you would be able to use it. I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving. We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed to work with Jaws. There is something called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa. There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here. Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource? VFO Should really host this for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more than five, not that I need that manyJ
Thanks for the suggestion. Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock applications or Website? For example https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/ Once you have set a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this. In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ARORA Meesha
Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one. Thanks Meesha
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks. I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Hi members, Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS? I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one. Thanks, Meesha
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