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moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into, first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control + home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?


moderated test message 1

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

 


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...>
Sent: Sep 3, 2019 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any
context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another
list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job
easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If
someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up
top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though,
having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back
through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far.
Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each
and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.


how can I make sure that messages are being read? Hi i'm using webmail which makes a difference in whether you're receiving messages in a specific mannor. I know that when I had outlook, I never had these types of problems.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

It *is* kind of amoot point anyway as it turns out, the person who originally started the conversation down this path is sending messages with no original content. :P

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 3, 2019 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Cristóbal
 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


moderated how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Tyler Wood
 

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though, having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far. Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Glenn / Lenny
 


I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Randy Barnett
 

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

It really annoys me when someone replies and they don't have their eMail program set to leave the message they are replying to.
This happens when I text a cell phone by eMail and they reply because text to eMail does not leave the message they are replying to.
But on the other hand, I need to get better at not being lazy and trimming out everything but the message I'm replying to.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:
*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.
Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Accessible Server Software

Robbie Curtis
 

Thanks Jaffar and everyone. Jaffar, I will try that and I thought that might be the case having to use the command prompt. Thanks all!

On 9/3/2019 12:52 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi Robbie.  I think for us, we can only access the php.ini file by going into the wamp directory\bin\CurrentlyUsedPhpVersion, so for example if you are using php7.3.5, then go in to that directory, locate the php.ini file and edit it to your needs.  I hav searched through the available menus present on the server management icon on the system tray but cannot find any menu item that allows us to edit the php.ini file through there.  Cheers!

On 9/3/2019 8:45 AM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hi Jaffar,


I have wampserver 3 and I need to edit the php.ini file and the software is sort of inaccessible. How can I edit this file? I have researched and the forum contributors say to do it through the wampserver icon in the systems tray. Help is much appreciated.

On 9/1/2019 5:52 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Wamp:

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

On 9/2/2019 3:53 AM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hey Yall,


Can anyone direct me to an accessible local server software? Thanks.



--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@...
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Al
 

If it isn't top posted it gets deleted...
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Here is a good rule of thumb that I suggest people think about, which is still applied on a lot of web forums, and goes back to the days of more extensive e-mail list use and usenet newsgroups:
Top post, *except* when the message you are replying to contains a lot of detail that must be responded to individually.
If you can't be bothered to reply to individual paragraphs in a message, by inserting your remarks in the content of the re-posted original message, or, if as the case often is, there's really no need to do this (it happens most often, I find, in serious debates), always put your reply above the message you are replying to. *do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I don't find David's post either. I agree with Mike that replys/forwards should be top posted. most if not all members don't want to bother reading through original messages just to find a one liner remark, especially if an explaination is needed to clarify the remark.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 1:33 AM
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool
No thanks, on looking for the reply, I agree with you.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mike B <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2019 12:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Howdy Glenn,
His replies aren't top posted. Arrow down through the message and
you'll find what he's talking about. Personally, if someone doesn't
top post their, original or, reply, it gets deleted. Someone asking
for help shouldn't make it hard for someone to get to their question.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason
is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glennervin@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 10:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David,
Still nothing in your messages.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sep 2, 2019 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool


Hi, did you have a question?
There was nothing in your reply.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Aug 31, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Hi,
I was annoyed at these pop up ads that started when
I went to a send space site.
I downloaded a MalwareBytes tool for adware, and it
found three threats that were in Internet Explorer.
I had to use the touch cursor (a jaws tool) to
activate the scan button and other parts of the tool.
The Jaws touch cursor can be activated with shift +
PC cursor.
tap PC cursor twice to disable it.
Here's the link to the scanner:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjA4OTg4Nzhf/adwcleaner_7.4.exe
Glenn


moderated Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

That’s also what I thought; I looked, and I have a braille display so this sort of thing is really fast – and didn’t find any content.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 3, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Just FYI, there is nothing whatsoever except "bottom posted" quotation that I can see in any of Mr. Ingram's responses.

There's no new material whatsoever.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

Yeah, I don’t actually disagree with you Brian, I should clarify that *one* message quoted should be sufficient (or maybe a very specific part of it, as you do, and your method of not-quite-top-posting is usually quite clear). I myself am not always conscious of all the crap that is included after my message (as you say, sometimes it’s probably pages and pages of replies) because I don’t often read it. It’s something I’ve been made aware of on a few occasions and when that happens I do try to delete extraneous content.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 3, 2019 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:

*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.

Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

All good points.
On another list I am on, there are a few people who do not quote *anything*. It's almost impossible to tell what they are talking about at times, because there's no context at all except an (often vague) subject line.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: September 3, 2019 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Hi,
One more remark here - that turned into a few more.
If you're going to post in between paragraphs, take the time to remove the ---original message--- subtext, or make it clear exactly what you're replying to.
If you're going to remove everything underneath your message, at least give us some idea of who/what you are replying to so folks aren't left wondering.

More frustrating, to me, is when a threaded topic begins to have multiple threads either because somebody changes the subject line minutely or because an email client isn't smart enough to continue said thread. This is when it is important to be able to know what someone is replying to. Sending a message without any context makes it almost impossible, if the topic has multiple threads, to figure out where the reply was actually directed.
A few seconds of simple message editing, especially if there are a lot of points to be responded to, makes it oh so much easier to read through them rather than having to read the top message, then scroll down underneath to see the questions, just as an example.

------Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Here is a good rule of thumb that I suggest people think about, which is still applied on a lot of web forums, and goes back to the days of more extensive e-mail list use and usenet newsgroups:
Top post, *except* when the message you are replying to contains a lot of detail that must be responded to individually.
If you can't be bothered to reply to individual paragraphs in a message, by inserting your remarks in the content of the re-posted original message, or, if as the case often is, there's really no need to do this (it happens most often, I find, in serious debates), always put your reply above the message you are replying to. *do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I don't find David's post either. I agree with Mike that replys/forwards should be top posted. most if not all members don't want to bother reading through original messages just to find a one liner remark, especially if an explaination is needed to clarify the remark.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 1:33 AM
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool
No thanks, on looking for the reply, I agree with you.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mike B <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2019 12:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Howdy Glenn,
His replies aren't top posted. Arrow down through the message and
you'll find what he's talking about. Personally, if someone doesn't
top post their, original or, reply, it gets deleted. Someone asking
for help shouldn't make it hard for someone to get to their question.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason
is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glennervin@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 10:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David,
Still nothing in your messages.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sep 2, 2019 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool


Hi, did you have a question?
There was nothing in your reply.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Aug 31, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Hi,
I was annoyed at these pop up ads that started when
I went to a send space site.
I downloaded a MalwareBytes tool for adware, and it
found three threats that were in Internet Explorer.
I had to use the touch cursor (a jaws tool) to
activate the scan button and other parts of the tool.
The Jaws touch cursor can be activated with shift +
PC cursor.
tap PC cursor twice to disable it.
Here's the link to the scanner:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjA4OTg4Nzhf/adwcleaner_7.4.exe
Glenn


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:21 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
is when a threaded topic begins to have multiple threads either because somebody changes the subject line minutely or because an email client isn't smart enough to continue said thread.
Just FYI, it really is almost always the subject line change.  As "archive administrator" for the Win10 group I am constantly re-merging topics.   It also drives me crazy when folks do something like, "Fixed:  Excel copy issue," when the topic had been "Excel copy issue."  People who've been following the topic will see a final message with the fix contained in it if they were interested in that topic at all.  When the subject line gets changed like this it splits off from the original, which makes later searching insanely more complicated and frustrating than just posting the message to the original topic would.

There appears to be some issue with the Windows 10 mail app, too, as I have noticed that after subjects get so long that replies almost always end up taking out a single space.  What I haven't yet taken the time to data collect on is whether this is after a specific character count.

I have always used, and will continue to use, interspersed quotation-reply-quotation-reply in instances where it would be insanely difficult to know what is actually being replied to were it all just at the top of a message.  I consider that a courtesy and it's so much easier to understand when essential context is preserved.  Even then, though, I trim out content from the quoted material that is extraneous, keeping only what's needed to supply context.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

In a post early this morning, I indicated that an overnight shut-down  and later re-boot seems to have solved the problem.

 

Hopefully, that will remain true.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Does this persist after a reboot?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:01 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Problem With Outlook 2016 Message List View

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I don’t know if this has been caused by a recent Office 365 update, but my message list view in Outlook no longer displays complete header info about e-mails as I arrow up and down the list.

 

I can get the time of the message, and the subject, but that’s it.

 

I usually like to hear the date and other information.

 

I have made sure my screen is maximized.

 

I also went into the folder view menu, and made sure my folder pane was set to normal, and my reading pane was set to off.

 

What step am I missing here?

 

I’m using Windows 10 version 1803, the latest build of Jaws 2019, and Outlook 2016 under Office 365.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Glenn / Lenny
 


It really annoys me when someone replies and they don't have their eMail program set to leave the message they are replying to.
This happens when I text a cell phone by eMail and they reply because text to eMail does not leave the message they are replying to.
But on the other hand, I need to get better at not being lazy and trimming out everything but the message I'm replying to.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:
*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.
Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
One more remark here - that turned into a few more.
If you're going to post in between paragraphs, take the time to remove the ---original message--- subtext, or make it clear exactly what you're replying to.
If you're going to remove everything underneath your message, at least give us some idea of who/what you are replying to so folks aren't left wondering.

More frustrating, to me, is when a threaded topic begins to have multiple threads either because somebody changes the subject line minutely or because an email client isn't smart enough to continue said thread. This is when it is important to be able to know what someone is replying to. Sending a message without any context makes it almost impossible, if the topic has multiple threads, to figure out where the reply was actually directed.
A few seconds of simple message editing, especially if there are a lot of points to be responded to, makes it oh so much easier to read through them rather than having to read the top message, then scroll down underneath to see the questions, just as an example.

------Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Here is a good rule of thumb that I suggest people think about, which is still applied on a lot of web forums, and goes back to the days of more extensive e-mail list use and usenet newsgroups:
Top post, *except* when the message you are replying to contains a lot of detail that must be responded to individually.
If you can't be bothered to reply to individual paragraphs in a message, by inserting your remarks in the content of the re-posted original message, or, if as the case often is, there's really no need to do this (it happens most often, I find, in serious debates), always put your reply above the message you are replying to. *do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I don't find David's post either. I agree with Mike that replys/forwards should be top posted. most if not all members don't want to bother reading through original messages just to find a one liner remark, especially if an explaination is needed to clarify the remark.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 1:33 AM
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool
No thanks, on looking for the reply, I agree with you.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mike B <mailto:mb69mach1@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2019 12:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Howdy Glenn,
His replies aren't top posted. Arrow down through the message and
you'll find what he's talking about. Personally, if someone doesn't
top post their, original or, reply, it gets deleted. Someone asking
for help shouldn't make it hard for someone to get to their question.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason
is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Glenn / Lenny <mailto:glennervin@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 10:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David,
Still nothing in your messages.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sep 2, 2019 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool


Hi, did you have a question?
There was nothing in your reply.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, September 02, 2019 11:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Aug 31, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Hi,
I was annoyed at these pop up ads that started when
I went to a send space site.
I downloaded a MalwareBytes tool for adware, and it
found three threats that were in Internet Explorer.
I had to use the touch cursor (a jaws tool) to
activate the scan button and other parts of the tool.
The Jaws touch cursor can be activated with shift +
PC cursor.
tap PC cursor twice to disable it.
Here's the link to the scanner:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjA4OTg4Nzhf/adwcleaner_7.4.exe
Glenn


moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM, JM Casey wrote:
*do* include that message you are replying to, though, so that we can all see it. Many of us don't store old messages from these lists for longer than a day.
Well, we'll have to disagree on this.   The custom here is top posting, for the most part, leaving a trail of quotation multiple days deep afterward, which makes it insane when someone is trying to search the archive for original content.

If only the single message or message segment were included, I'd definitely say go for it, but that's not going to happen.

Anyone who's been following a topic through its lifespan is likely to know what's being replied to if it's an immediately previous message, anyway.   I'd love to see people delete all content except that which is being retained for context, like my top quote of one line from your message or the interspersed reply method you mention.  It's an easy matter when you hit the Reply button to do a CTRL+A followed by delete to remove all extraneous content not necessary for context preservation, but that's not going to happen, either.
 
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Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Just FYI, there is nothing whatsoever except "bottom posted" quotation that I can see in any of Mr. Ingram's responses.

There's no new material whatsoever.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer