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moderated Re: Facebook posting

Donna
 

Using the FB app..go to settings, type notifications, you will be presented with several ways one can receive notifications. Tap on each notification preference to change your current settings. 

Donna

On Jun 21, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Gudrun Brunot <brunotgudrun@...> wrote:

Hello all: I frequently get email messages with Facebook as the sender and a subject like: “[friend so-and-so] shared a link” or a photo, or updated his/her status. So how is that kind of message created—that is, what procedure will trigger that message to be sent as emails to your Facebook friends? There are times when I’d like to do that. I know you can post something by finding “What’s on your mind, [name]?” Then, find “Share” and make sure it’s the “share” button, not just the text somewhere. That, however, doesn’t seem to generate any message via email to your Facebook friends. They will see what you posted only if they decide to go to Facebook and cruise around. I’m not even sure how they find your post.

 

Yes, even if there isn’t a course on Facebook, it would be great to have some pointers on how to know how your stuff is treated if you place some thing on Facebook. I can use Facebook on my iPhone or my PC, but the conundrum is present whichever method I use.

 

All best,

 

 

 

Gudrun

 

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moderated : Transitioning back from Mac to PC: Why not both environments?

Peter Donahue
 

Good afternoon everyone,

 

                We currently have a Windows desktop and my wife's work laptop along with another Windows laptop we use for specific purposes. In addition we have the iPhone and an iPad Air2. We expect to add another iPad which will be the iPad Pro in the next month.

 

                I'm seriously considering getting a Mac for my next desktop. As long as they're still running we'll keep our current Windows machines along with the Apple machines allowing us to take advantage of the strengths of both environments. Why not hold onto the Mac and raise the needed funds to buy a new Windows desktop allowing you to use both types of desktop machines? We're doing that here.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks for explaining. I asked about getting apps becaus eon Mac, if something isn’t in the app store, it’s a pain to install. I know with Windows 8 it was very easy to install programs you got off the Internet, but I wasn’t sure this still works in Windows 10.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 21:22 heeft JM Casey <jmcasey@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello  Astrid.

 

The Windows app store seems quite accessible, but really, I do not use it for much. I can say though that you can successfully find and install apps from this place if you want to.

Where do we get our apps? That depends on what they are. I generally try to go to the source on the internet for whatever programme I am interested in.

 

I use Microsoft office, so outlook is my mail client of choice. You can get a recycled office license really cheaply nowadays.

 

As for browsers, Chrome and Firefox combination should serve you well. You will probably need to use both to have the best/smoothest experience.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

 

Hi all,

I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

 

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

 

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

 

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

Shannon
 

Ok, I didn’t realize that newer versions of Office were so inexpensive these days. I thought that you had to have a monthly subscription to these newer versions and that seamed silly when I don’t need a lot of the bells and wistles.

Some of the new stuff is just more, and not all that.

 

Where would I go to look for the newer versions. Do you really think that a newer version of the email client would be able to get to these embedded graphics?

I did find a setting in Jaws 2019 that does at least acknowledge that there is a graphic and it says it is in the local temp bla bla bla but I can’t seam to grab it, or coppy or save it at all.

The attachments save in office 2010 does not  scoup this sort of thing up in the save options.

I am using Jaws 2019 because I had to. I honestly am not as happy with it as I was with Window Eyes. IMO WE was a better product but… since it is gone I had to do something.

I am using windows 10 not because it is better but like you said it is what is being supported now. I think it is full of fluffy stuff but… mostly it works fine. Sometimes they just seam to change stuff for the sake of changing something, not to make it actually better but to make it different.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Yes, but there comes a time when software which is way past any update and support period simply will cause too many headaches, it will become insecure and you will ask questions about some issue which others have a hard time answering because you are using software which most others left behind 5 or 6 years ago.

I have multiple computers at work and my laptop at home as well as my iPhone and I use Outlook.com for my personal email. I stopped using Office 2010 as soon as Office 2013 offered native support for Exchange Active Sync accounts without me having to install the old Hotmail connector program first.

If it turns out that the Save attachments feature does not exist in Office 2010 and that Shannon could access all or even most embedded images and files using it if she used Office 365 and, as she said, she is missing important information by not being able to access them then I would say the statement “Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?” is not such a good one because apparently it does not do an important part of her job. Keep in mind that I am just hypothesizing because I haven’t seen her emails with these embedded images, for all I know they are also not accessible in Outlook through Office 365. But in general my statement stands, at some point you have to move on and get away from older software. Shannon says she is using Jaws 2019 and I’m not sure if she is on Windows 10 or still on Windows 7, but the statement she made could also be applied to Windows and Jaws, I mean, if she is using Office 2010, why not use Windows 10 with Jaws 13 or even earlier, imaging all the money you could have saved not upgrading Jaws. Of course the same applies, eventually you have to get a new computer which nowadays means you get a Windows 10 computer and especially with version 1903 and what is coming this fall and next spring you really need Jaws 2019.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Right on, Shannon. I’m also using Office 2010. I think we all should remember that each one of us uses their tech in different ways under different circumstances and for different purposes. HTH Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Because I own it. Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?

I’ll try to see if there is a save atachments that will work on these embedded images.

Thanks for the idea.

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Is there a specific reason why you still use Outlook 2010? Usually I still hear that the email includes attachments if it has embedded images, maybe it’s not always the case, but when it does tell me I can save them with File > Save attachments.

Keep in mind that I use the most current version of Outlook via Office 365 and it’s been so many years since I have used Office 2010 that I have no idea if Save Attachments which saves all attachments whether attached or embedded exists in 2010.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Hello,

 

It has come to my attention that I am missing important   information in emails because they are actually including this information in an image format imbedded into the email body.

With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2010 I am getting no indication that there are any images at all.

Is there at the least a setting that I can/need to change to be notified that there is more in these messages beyond the body text and the typical signature junk?

Once I find these images, is there a way to get to them and save them so I can possibly use OCR on them?

 

Thanks

Shannon


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks so much for answering my questions so eloquently.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 20:45 heeft Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> het volgende geschreven:

Q: As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how usable JAWS is these
days?

A: Hi,As you found out VO on the Mac is way different than VO on the I Phone. As you have many years of Windows and Jaws experience you would be better off with a PC running Jaws or NVDA. I use Jaws since I am a long time user of it.

Q:  Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS.

A: Fire Fox, Chrome and IE are still the main options for browsers and each has it's use's. The new Chromium based Edge is great so far and I am using it as my default browser and it seems to do most everything I need it too. There will always be times when a second or third browser is needed. That is just life. But it is better than it used to be.

Q: What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?
A: Some use windows mail or Outlook, I really prefer Thunderbird. It is accessible and easy to use. The app store is somewhat accessible but you can still install programs just as you always have so I don't use it.

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it all the time.

Q: Yes, One drive, Dropbox and Google drive are all  available on both the PC and I Phone. I use One Drive and like it.

Q: What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)?
A: Not sure...

Q:  Just some random questions. Will ask more if
I think of any.

A: Of course we are here to help. :) smiley face




moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all! Good to know. Thank you! 



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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Outlook is part of Office and you have to pay for it.
On 6/21/2019 11:22 AM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
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Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.



moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

JM Casey
 

Hello  Astrid.

 

The Windows app store seems quite accessible, but really, I do not use it for much. I can say though that you can successfully find and install apps from this place if you want to.

Where do we get our apps? That depends on what they are. I generally try to go to the source on the internet for whatever programme I am interested in.

 

I use Microsoft office, so outlook is my mail client of choice. You can get a recycled office license really cheaply nowadays.

 

As for browsers, Chrome and Firefox combination should serve you well. You will probably need to use both to have the best/smoothest experience.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

 

Hi all,

I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

 

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

 

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

 

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Randy Barnett
 

Outlook is part of Office and you have to pay for it.

On 6/21/2019 11:22 AM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.



moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Randy Barnett
 

Q: As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how usable JAWS is these
days?

A: Hi,As you found out VO on the Mac is way different than VO on the I Phone. As you have many years of Windows and Jaws experience you would be better off with a PC running Jaws or NVDA. I use Jaws since I am a long time user of it.

Q:  Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS.

A: Fire Fox, Chrome and IE are still the main options for browsers and each has it's use's. The new Chromium based Edge is great so far and I am using it as my default browser and it seems to do most everything I need it too. There will always be times when a second or third browser is needed. That is just life. But it is better than it used to be.

Q: What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?
A: Some use windows mail or Outlook, I really prefer Thunderbird. It is accessible and easy to use. The app store is somewhat accessible but you can still install programs just as you always have so I don't use it.

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it all the time.

Q: Yes, One drive, Dropbox and Google drive are all  available on both the PC and I Phone. I use One Drive and like it.

Q: What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)?
A: Not sure...

Q:  Just some random questions. Will ask more if
I think of any.

A: Of course we are here to help. :) smiley face


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



























































 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks so much. I have experience with Thunderbird but it stopped working with my old JAWS. Glad it works with current versions.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 20:28 heeft Chris Hill <hillco@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello.

Yes, kindle for pc is still accessible, and I’d sayh better than it used to be.  I prefer to use the Chromium type browsers like Chrome or Brave(good when you really want all ads blocked).  Both seem to work about the same.  I use thunderbird for email, windows mail is basically a dumpster fire in my opinion.  Thunderbird is free, and while it isn’t perfect, I’ve been using it for a good ten years without trouble.  Firefox used to have the best rss capabilities, but it quit doing that.  Thunderbird can work with rss feeds, it is not much fun to get them set up because you have to switch back and forth to the browser to find and save the url’s, but once set up, thunderbird has a built in browser that reads the feed pretty well.

Hope this helps.

CH



On Jun 21, 2019, at 13:16, Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...> wrote:

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

 

Scratch reading that PDF in my last response.  Things have changed, at least slightly. 

Adobe actually presents a link to this webpage, https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html, in its internet preferences now.  This page explains how to toggle display with a web browser on or off (meaning use Reader instead) in a variety of contemporary browsers.

If a given browser is currently displaying in browser, then wherever they have you go to turn that on is where you'll go to turn that off.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Chris Hill
 

Hello.

Yes, kindle for pc is still accessible, and I’d sayh better than it used to be.  I prefer to use the Chromium type browsers like Chrome or Brave(good when you really want all ads blocked).  Both seem to work about the same.  I use thunderbird for email, windows mail is basically a dumpster fire in my opinion.  Thunderbird is free, and while it isn’t perfect, I’ve been using it for a good ten years without trouble.  Firefox used to have the best rss capabilities, but it quit doing that.  Thunderbird can work with rss feeds, it is not much fun to get them set up because you have to switch back and forth to the browser to find and save the url’s, but once set up, thunderbird has a built in browser that reads the feed pretty well.

Hope this helps.

CH



On Jun 21, 2019, at 13:16, Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...> wrote:

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:36 PM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:
Is there a way for me to be able to open in Adobe rather than in the built-in PDF reader?
Yes.   Read the following PDF for instructions.  It dates from 2016, and I haven't been using Adobe Reader for quite some time, so it may not be current.  If it turns out not to work with Reader DC then please let me know and I'll actually install Reader DC to take a look at how it's working now.

Configuring your web browsers to open PDF files in Adobe Reader - Done from within Adobe Reader's settings
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: jaws 2019?

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Thanks!!! That worked!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019?

 

Actually, I recommend you type cmd in the Windows search box, when you hear Command Prompt press Shift + F10 and arrow to where it says Run as Administrator. This open a command prompt window with administrative privileges and you should be able to run chkdsk and sfc without problems.

.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 7:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019?

 

Just run it by finding the drive in this pc, choosing properties, tools and do it from there.  This has nothing to do with jaws, btw.

 

 

On 6/21/2019 09:19, Kevin Meyers wrote:

I wanted to run chkdsk and I got the message I don’t have admin privilages. I’m using windows10 and Jaws2019. I pressed windows key and letter R. I typed in chkdsk and got the message. Do I need to do something else to get access?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019?

 

Hi Kendra,

 

You wrote “last time that I tried it, the update was a bad corrupted version”, can you be more specific? Was the download corrupted or the installation?

I have been using Jaws 2019 exclusively ever since it came out and have no major issues and certainly at this point in the game I would say it works as good as Jaws 2018 ever has except it of course has new features like Photo Smart which I find extremely useful, same goes for the new ways to deal with headings on web pages where you can set it so that if you go to a heading level 3, for example, it goes straight there even if that heading level 3 is in an area of the page where previously you might have to first use heading level 1 and 2 to find it.

The new Jaws online installer has worked perfectly for me each time, it’s a small download and when  you run it Jaws downloads whatever components it needs during the installation, but you can still download a 32 bit or 64 bit off-line installer which includes everything for a completely offline installation.

I find that with changes in Windows and Office happening quite frequently it definitely is worthwhile to be on the latest Jaws update because it will also contain all the latest fixes to address things Microsoft does. And, as you know, you don’t have to uninstall Jaws 2018 in order to install and use Jaws 2019 so there is no risk really to install and use it and, should something really not work, you can go back to Jaws 2018 and see if it works better.

If you have major issues with Jaws 2019 and continue to experience them I would say you need to take a good look at your PC overall to make sure there isn’t anything which might cause said issues.

I would open an admin command prompt and run the typical repair tools like chkdsk c: /r and system file checker, sfc /ScanNow to make sure you don’t get any errors and, if you still have problems try a non-destructive repair of Windows 10.

Also, I don’t think you mentioned it, but which version of Windows 10 do you have and what are the basic specs of your PC, e.g. I3, I5 or I7, which generation is your processor, how much RAM do you have and do you have a traditional hard drive or do you use an SSD?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denise J Moses
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019?

 

Hello,

 

I dislike JAWS 2019 too right now.  When I press the Windows key JAWS doesn’t speak.  I type in a search & it will open & then it talks.  If I open 2 or more items at first JAWS works but then freezes & won’t talk at all.  I’ve uninstalled 2019   & reinstalled & get the same thing.  I haven’t gotten very far with tech support.  I’ve written an email through their contact page & they tell me to call tech support.  I’ve gone back to using JAWS 2018.  It seems like every time they update something stops working & it either doesn’t get fixed or it takes many complaints to fix it.  I know a lot of people don’t have problems & really like the new changes but this version makes me very mad.

 

Denise

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kendra Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019?

 

Hi all! I currently have JAWS 2018 installed on my computer alongside JAWS 2019. I have tried JAWS 2019 3 or 4 times. So far, I'm not impressed! Each time I tried JAWS 2019, I have run into bugs. The last time that I tried it, the update was a bad corrupted version. It wouldn't work with my Dell laptop PC computer at all. My tech teacher also got the same exact result. Because JAWS 2019 is one of the worst worst versions of softwhere that I have run into, into, I want to know the latest news from the user’s point of view. I don’t need someone sending me Freedom Scientific resources because they have overlooked some major bugs. I want feedback from users experiences before I give that vertion of JAWS another try. I have stuck with NVDA and JAWS 2018 instead.     

 

 

Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!

Blessed be!!!

Kendra Schaber

Chemeketa Community College,

350 Org,

Citizen’s Climate Lobby,

National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,

Capitol Chapter,

Salem, Oregon.

Home Email:

Chemeketa Community College Email:

Phone:

971-599-9991

“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.

SE.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of dennis <dennisc67@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 15:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2019 and latest version of thunderbird

 

all that does is open the atachment.

On 6/18/2019 4:41 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

did you press enter on any attachment?

Curtis Delzer 
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
 
curtis@...

On 6/18/2019 10:56 AM, dennis wrote:

is anyone else having problems with atachments lists in thunderbird? jaws says horisontal list box and won't list the atachments. it says the number of atachments in the list but won't show them. anyone else having this issue?

--
Dennis Cornelison


moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

Cynthia Bruce
 

OK, now I feel like I am getting somewhere. So, what if I want to try to open it and read it without actually saving it or downloading it? Is there a way for me to be able to open in Adobe rather than in the built-in PDF reader?


On Jun 21, 2019, at 1:32 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

If the goal is to save the file locally for opening in your favorite PDF reader, I wouldn't even activate a link for same because, as Sieghard has noted, under Chrome that generally opens the file in Chrome's built-in PDF viewer in a separate tab, and then you still have to get to the download button.

Just bring up the context menu when you have focus on the actual link to the PDF file and choose, "Save link target as" (or similar, I can never remember if that's the Firefox language or Chrome's, but they're similar enough that it's pretty obvious).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

 

If the goal is to save the file locally for opening in your favorite PDF reader, I wouldn't even activate a link for same because, as Sieghard has noted, under Chrome that generally opens the file in Chrome's built-in PDF viewer in a separate tab, and then you still have to get to the download button.

Just bring up the context menu when you have focus on the actual link to the PDF file and choose, "Save link target as" (or similar, I can never remember if that's the Firefox language or Chrome's, but they're similar enough that it's pretty obvious).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall