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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

My primary browser is Chrome, and IE is the backup.  Also, I keep JAWS 17 on my computer in addition to 2019.  There are some web sites that work with 17 but not 2019; go figure. 

 

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:48 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.
And I will hasten to add that while this is far more true for users of screen readers, it is also true even for those of us with sight.

There are some web pages that for reasons as mysterious as the building methods of the great pyramids just will not work under browser X that are just fine with browser Y.  And when you factor in add-ons and extensions (browser and screen-reader) things get even more complicated.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall


moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

marvin kotler
 

                                In my book, google chrome is the best.

Marv

 

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From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

I wish Vivaldi was a little cleaner with JAWS as it seems so nice and I love how customisable it is, but yeah. Truth is I’ve barely run it since I installed the thing. Still vaguely hoping for improvements, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: June 27, 2019 11:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally  work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.

 

On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@...

 

Connect with me on FaceBook, or

Follow me on Twitter

 

 


moderated Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Sieghard  When Evelyn  had her gmail address with window live mail in 2014 or 2015 she didn’t like it at all because she don’t know how to used it I asked her why she removed window live mail so she told me something I can’t remember  she didn’t have no email clients for 4 or 5 years now so she got office 365  in 2 weeks ago  with her gmail account. Do you understand ?

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

I mean no offense, but your mails are so all over the place that I doubt you will ever get a good answer. You write 2 lines and mention two Gmail accounts, Windows Live Mail, Facebook, JFW and Office 365 and to me all seem like random, unrelated things. What does Facebook have to do with Office 365? Windows Live Mail is an old mail client which probably shouldn’t even be used in Windows 10 which has a built-in mail application called simply “Mail”. But even if that is what your friend used and didn’t like there is really no reason to create a new Gmail account. All she would have to do is to make sure she deletes the account from Mail, if she in fact downloaded Windows Live Mail she should uninstall it, then she can set up her Gmail account in Outlook. You still haven’t said if she even properly configured this Gmail account in Outlook and I assume she did not because if it were set up correctly then she would see her Inbox and emails and Control + N definitely would start a new email.

Yu also mentioned she worked with Microsoft Accessibility to get Office 365, if that is the case why does she not call them back so they can help her set this  up correctly.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Munawar  Evelyn have gmail account with window live mail  she doesn’t like it so she removed window live mail because she doesn’t know how to used it with jaws !! So she created another gmail account and have office 365 !! She is on facebook and she tried to subscribe in jfw with office365 when she press ctrl n it’s didn’t said new message

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Ok, but I'm 90% sure from reading past messages that your friend doesn't need Office Email, and Microsoft is probably upselling at this point.

 

If your friend is running Windows 10, have them ask the disability support line to stop playing with Office and just set up Windows Mail for them. It will be far, far easier for your friend and much less complicated. Outlook is an enterprise application and unless your friend needs Outlook for professional reasons, she doesn't need to set it up.

 

Even so, most companies that use Outlook have Office Business subscriptions anyway so the employees themselves don't pay for Office licenses.

 

Windows Mail is light, fast and simple to use; and 100% free.

On 6/28/2019 9:45 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi Munawar  All I can tell you when Evelyn and Microsoft disability support man on the phone download and installed office 365 email clients for $6 monthly  on her window7 computer where she stated last night to me on fb message  so I put in here this morning ,I will send her your message to see if she will response back to me and will reply back to you and all

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Did your friend set up an Email account in Outlook? You need an Email account configured before those commands will work.

 

For a simpler experience, I would recommend your friend to use the built-in Windows Mail. Outlook is mostly good for business environments and is overkill for most of the people I've seen using it.

On 6/28/2019 7:53 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi there My friend did try that and it didn’t works when she press ctrl n for new ,press ctrl r for reply and nothing

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hi,

Tell your friend to open Outlook and press CTRL+N to start a new message, and CTRL+R to reply to a message.

On 6/27/2019 8:51 PM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hello Sieghard  and CMCasey

I received fb message from my friend name Evelyn Williams  tonight  here what she say below

My name is Evelyn. I use office 365, windows seven, and jfw 20desktop computer. How do I reply and-or send a message?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Office 365 is a subscription service, you can pay monthly or for the entire year which is cheaper. Among some other benefits like 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and getting 60 Skype minutes each month the Office 365 subscription also includes a license to download the full Office suite and install it on  up to 5 computers. This of course includes Outlook as well as Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc. But you only get to use the full set of Office apps and features as long as you pay your subscription.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello  My friend told me in her fb message that she have office 365  when I was on the phone with her and Microsoft disability support to download and installed email programs  for $6 a month  !! Is office 365 is the same thing as outlook?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

You probably didn’t get a response back before because your question is pretty hard to understand.

Even now the only question I can glean from this is:

“Is there outlook or office 365 email ?”

Yes. Outlook is the e-mail client in Microsoft office.

 

If you want your friend to be helped by the list, I think you’ll need to be a bit more specific, or maybe even get her on here to ask the question herself.

Does she have outlook? I guess that’d be a good place to start. Is she trying to set up e-mail with an iSP? Gmail? Something else?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: June 18, 2019 2:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello All I have post about it but didn’t get any response back from any member. Is there outlook or office 365 email ? My friend have window7 desktop  and jaws2019 ,she is having problem trying to how to send new email and reply email and add contact in address book !! Do any member have this email clients ? If so Can you tell me what I need to tell my friend what she need to do ?

Thank you

Addison

 


moderated Getting rid of how many of how many

Ann Byrne
 

In word 2016 with UIA turned on, JAWS reports how many of how many items in some imaginary sequence. Often it is something like 1 of 8, but today we had 5 of 560. If I turn off UIA to get rid of the announcement, I suppose it makes a biiiiig difference somewhere. Can I just get rid of the count???


moderated Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

I mean no offense, but your mails are so all over the place that I doubt you will ever get a good answer. You write 2 lines and mention two Gmail accounts, Windows Live Mail, Facebook, JFW and Office 365 and to me all seem like random, unrelated things. What does Facebook have to do with Office 365? Windows Live Mail is an old mail client which probably shouldn’t even be used in Windows 10 which has a built-in mail application called simply “Mail”. But even if that is what your friend used and didn’t like there is really no reason to create a new Gmail account. All she would have to do is to make sure she deletes the account from Mail, if she in fact downloaded Windows Live Mail she should uninstall it, then she can set up her Gmail account in Outlook. You still haven’t said if she even properly configured this Gmail account in Outlook and I assume she did not because if it were set up correctly then she would see her Inbox and emails and Control + N definitely would start a new email.

Yu also mentioned she worked with Microsoft Accessibility to get Office 365, if that is the case why does she not call them back so they can help her set this  up correctly.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Munawar  Evelyn have gmail account with window live mail  she doesn’t like it so she removed window live mail because she doesn’t know how to used it with jaws !! So she created another gmail account and have office 365 !! She is on facebook and she tried to subscribe in jfw with office365 when she press ctrl n it’s didn’t said new message

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Ok, but I'm 90% sure from reading past messages that your friend doesn't need Office Email, and Microsoft is probably upselling at this point.

 

If your friend is running Windows 10, have them ask the disability support line to stop playing with Office and just set up Windows Mail for them. It will be far, far easier for your friend and much less complicated. Outlook is an enterprise application and unless your friend needs Outlook for professional reasons, she doesn't need to set it up.

 

Even so, most companies that use Outlook have Office Business subscriptions anyway so the employees themselves don't pay for Office licenses.

 

Windows Mail is light, fast and simple to use; and 100% free.

On 6/28/2019 9:45 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi Munawar  All I can tell you when Evelyn and Microsoft disability support man on the phone download and installed office 365 email clients for $6 monthly  on her window7 computer where she stated last night to me on fb message  so I put in here this morning ,I will send her your message to see if she will response back to me and will reply back to you and all

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Did your friend set up an Email account in Outlook? You need an Email account configured before those commands will work.

 

For a simpler experience, I would recommend your friend to use the built-in Windows Mail. Outlook is mostly good for business environments and is overkill for most of the people I've seen using it.

On 6/28/2019 7:53 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi there My friend did try that and it didn’t works when she press ctrl n for new ,press ctrl r for reply and nothing

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hi,

Tell your friend to open Outlook and press CTRL+N to start a new message, and CTRL+R to reply to a message.

On 6/27/2019 8:51 PM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hello Sieghard  and CMCasey

I received fb message from my friend name Evelyn Williams  tonight  here what she say below

My name is Evelyn. I use office 365, windows seven, and jfw 20desktop computer. How do I reply and-or send a message?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Office 365 is a subscription service, you can pay monthly or for the entire year which is cheaper. Among some other benefits like 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and getting 60 Skype minutes each month the Office 365 subscription also includes a license to download the full Office suite and install it on  up to 5 computers. This of course includes Outlook as well as Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc. But you only get to use the full set of Office apps and features as long as you pay your subscription.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello  My friend told me in her fb message that she have office 365  when I was on the phone with her and Microsoft disability support to download and installed email programs  for $6 a month  !! Is office 365 is the same thing as outlook?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

You probably didn’t get a response back before because your question is pretty hard to understand.

Even now the only question I can glean from this is:

“Is there outlook or office 365 email ?”

Yes. Outlook is the e-mail client in Microsoft office.

 

If you want your friend to be helped by the list, I think you’ll need to be a bit more specific, or maybe even get her on here to ask the question herself.

Does she have outlook? I guess that’d be a good place to start. Is she trying to set up e-mail with an iSP? Gmail? Something else?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: June 18, 2019 2:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello All I have post about it but didn’t get any response back from any member. Is there outlook or office 365 email ? My friend have window7 desktop  and jaws2019 ,she is having problem trying to how to send new email and reply email and add contact in address book !! Do any member have this email clients ? If so Can you tell me what I need to tell my friend what she need to do ?

Thank you

Addison

 


moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

M Tobia
 

I have not been following this tread from the beginning, but if you want to shutdown Jaws and have it restart automatically, then use the Jaws key plus the windows key and the F4 key.  The combination of those three keys will shutdown Jaws and restart it again.

 

Mario

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Yes, this approach seems close to what i need to reach out. I'll try this.

As far as i know there are no child process. Then that would be fine.

Shank you.

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:46, Munawar Bijani a écrit :

I would also recommend you wait some seconds after killing JAWS before restarting it. The first line kills JAWS, the second line waits five seconds, and the third restarts JAWS. So:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

timeout 5

"C:\program files\freedom scientific\jaws\2019\jfw.exe"

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

--

Didactiweb - les formations adaptées aux déficients visuels

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Cofondateur et Responsable technique
06 20 23 77 26
tanguy.loheac@...


moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Cook, Steve
 

It will sometimes.

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hey that's pretty cool. Does it also work when JAWS has frozen? It never used to restart the program from what I remember, but it certainly does now, I just tried it.

On 6/28/2019 1:28 PM, Cook, Steve wrote:

This command will close jaws and then atomically restart the program.  Give it a try.

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

--

Didactiweb - les formations adaptées aux déficients visuels

Tanguy Lohéac
Cofondateur et Responsable technique
06 20 23 77 26
tanguy.loheac@...


moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

JM Casey
 

The OP explained in the very first post why this wasn’t what he was after.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: June 28, 2019 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

                Good afternoon listers; insert plus f4 unloads jaws, alt plus control plus jay restarts him.  I do not understand anything about command lines and such, but just use the two key strokes I mentioned above and you will be good to go.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

 


moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

marvin kotler
 

                Good afternoon listers; insert plus f4 unloads jaws, alt plus control plus jay restarts him.  I do not understand anything about command lines and such, but just use the two key strokes I mentioned above and you will be good to go.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

 


moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

JM Casey
 

Hi.

It sometimes works when JAWS is frozen. Sometimes JAWS is too far gone to even recognise the keystroke.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: June 28, 2019 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hey that's pretty cool. Does it also work when JAWS has frozen? It never used to restart the program from what I remember, but it certainly does now, I just tried it.

On 6/28/2019 1:28 PM, Cook, Steve wrote:

This command will close jaws and then atomically restart the program.  Give it a try.

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

JM Casey
 

I wish Vivaldi was a little cleaner with JAWS as it seems so nice and I love how customisable it is, but yeah. Truth is I’ve barely run it since I installed the thing. Still vaguely hoping for improvements, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: June 27, 2019 11:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Don't give up on IE yet. It will occasionally  work when others wont do what you need them too. The truth is you need multiple browsers because each will work in a situation where the others wont. the new Chromium based Edge is pretty good. I use it as my default browser and use IE and Firefox on occasion. There will never be a single work on every webpage browser for us.

Vivaldi is not nearly as easy to use as advertised and I haven't tried water fox or Brave but I will be after reading this.

 

On 6/26/2019 1:07 PM, James Gashel wrote:

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@...

 

Connect with me on FaceBook, or

Follow me on Twitter

 


moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

JM Casey
 

There should be a way to kill all child processes with a single command using process ID. I’ll look into this also.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: June 28, 2019 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy


moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Hey that's pretty cool. Does it also work when JAWS has frozen? It never used to restart the program from what I remember, but it certainly does now, I just tried it.

On 6/28/2019 1:28 PM, Cook, Steve wrote:

This command will close jaws and then atomically restart the program.  Give it a try.

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Cook, Steve
 

This command will close jaws and then atomically restart the program.  Give it a try.

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Bill White
 

Hi, Tanguy. Insert plus F4 only quits JAWS. Winkey plus INSERT plus F4 quits JAWS and restarts it, as well as reporting any errors to Vispero.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

You're welcome; good luck!

On 6/28/2019 12:34 PM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Yes, this approach seems close to what i need to reach out. I'll try this.

As far as i know there are no child process. Then that would be fine.

Shank you.

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:46, Munawar Bijani a écrit :

I would also recommend you wait some seconds after killing JAWS before restarting it. The first line kills JAWS, the second line waits five seconds, and the third restarts JAWS. So:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

timeout 5

"C:\program files\freedom scientific\jaws\2019\jfw.exe"

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Richard Turner
 

Steve says it unloads jaws and then restarts Jaws.  Insert+f4 just unloads.

 

Richard

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Munawar  Evelyn have gmail account with window live mail  she doesn’t like it so she removed window live mail because she doesn’t know how to used it with jaws !! So she created another gmail account and have office 365 !! She is on facebook and she tried to subscribe in jfw with office365 when she press ctrl n it’s didn’t said new message

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Ok, but I'm 90% sure from reading past messages that your friend doesn't need Office Email, and Microsoft is probably upselling at this point.

 

If your friend is running Windows 10, have them ask the disability support line to stop playing with Office and just set up Windows Mail for them. It will be far, far easier for your friend and much less complicated. Outlook is an enterprise application and unless your friend needs Outlook for professional reasons, she doesn't need to set it up.

 

Even so, most companies that use Outlook have Office Business subscriptions anyway so the employees themselves don't pay for Office licenses.

 

Windows Mail is light, fast and simple to use; and 100% free.

On 6/28/2019 9:45 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi Munawar  All I can tell you when Evelyn and Microsoft disability support man on the phone download and installed office 365 email clients for $6 monthly  on her window7 computer where she stated last night to me on fb message  so I put in here this morning ,I will send her your message to see if she will response back to me and will reply back to you and all

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Did your friend set up an Email account in Outlook? You need an Email account configured before those commands will work.

 

For a simpler experience, I would recommend your friend to use the built-in Windows Mail. Outlook is mostly good for business environments and is overkill for most of the people I've seen using it.

On 6/28/2019 7:53 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi there My friend did try that and it didn’t works when she press ctrl n for new ,press ctrl r for reply and nothing

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hi,

Tell your friend to open Outlook and press CTRL+N to start a new message, and CTRL+R to reply to a message.

On 6/27/2019 8:51 PM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hello Sieghard  and CMCasey

I received fb message from my friend name Evelyn Williams  tonight  here what she say below

My name is Evelyn. I use office 365, windows seven, and jfw 20desktop computer. How do I reply and-or send a message?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Office 365 is a subscription service, you can pay monthly or for the entire year which is cheaper. Among some other benefits like 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and getting 60 Skype minutes each month the Office 365 subscription also includes a license to download the full Office suite and install it on  up to 5 computers. This of course includes Outlook as well as Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc. But you only get to use the full set of Office apps and features as long as you pay your subscription.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello  My friend told me in her fb message that she have office 365  when I was on the phone with her and Microsoft disability support to download and installed email programs  for $6 a month  !! Is office 365 is the same thing as outlook?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

You probably didn’t get a response back before because your question is pretty hard to understand.

Even now the only question I can glean from this is:

“Is there outlook or office 365 email ?”

Yes. Outlook is the e-mail client in Microsoft office.

 

If you want your friend to be helped by the list, I think you’ll need to be a bit more specific, or maybe even get her on here to ask the question herself.

Does she have outlook? I guess that’d be a good place to start. Is she trying to set up e-mail with an iSP? Gmail? Something else?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: June 18, 2019 2:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Hello All Is it outlook or office 365 email ?

 

Hello All I have post about it but didn’t get any response back from any member. Is there outlook or office 365 email ? My friend have window7 desktop  and jaws2019 ,she is having problem trying to how to send new email and reply email and add contact in address book !! Do any member have this email clients ? If so Can you tell me what I need to tell my friend what she need to do ?

Thank you

Addison

 


moderated Re: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Tanguy LOHEAC
 

i I didn't know this command. How different is it from Insert+F4?

Le 28/06/2019 à 16:03, Cook, Steve a écrit :

Have you tried the JAWS dump command?  Insert Windows key and F4

 

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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