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moderated Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

JM Casey
 

I find that Vocalizer will not pause much after a period – if it is not followed by a capital letter. This is actually a good way for me to hear when I have mistyped. Now that I have a braille display though, such nuances don’t seem so necessary.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: August 19, 2019 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

 

I don’t think Vocalizer is any better.  Much of the time the pause is an acceptable level, but there are enough times when it’s almost as if there is no pause at all.  I’ll go back to see if I forgot to type a period and find one there, but Vocalizer doesn’t pause as I would hope.   I’ll play with the recommended tweaks someone posted.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

 

I think that a pause after a period is largely synthesiser dependent. So some synths will insert longer ones, others won’t. By default, the 1core voices from Microsoft have what is, to me, an insanely lengthy pause between both period and the next sentence and after a comma. You can adjust this in a very well hidden and protected .ini file. I don’t think Eloquence has anything similar. Maybe reduce the general speech rate (although I know this isn’t exactly what you want), or try Vocalizer, or one of the Microsoft voices.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: August 17, 2019 7:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Esoteric punctuation question.

 

Hi, folks.

 

I decided to get serious about learning JFW. Lots of interesting discoveries, and, a few puzzles.

 

Here is one. I noticed that with or without punctuation spoken, JAWS kind of rushes past what I consider to be normal length punctuation pause intervals. With Window-Eyes, I was able to put a period character after char.chr dictionary entries, thereby increasing the pause interval. This does not work with the JAWS Eloquence voice, however. To my question.

 

Is there a setting in JAWS to adjust punctuation pause intervals?

 

Thank you in advance for your help,

Lou N.



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moderated Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

Mario
 

if I may ask, what tweaks would that be? I find that using the Espeak NG
with NVDA, sometimes there is a pause after a period and sometimes there
isn't any pause. it's like two sentences spoken as one long one. it
doesn't make any difference which variant is tried. so it seems that
it's an NVDA issue? if not, what can I do about it?

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From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
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To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, August 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Subject: Esoteric punctuation question.

I don't think Vocalizer is any better. Much of the time the pause is an
acceptable level, but there are enough times when it's almost as if
there is no pause at all. I'll go back to see if I forgot to type a
period and find one there, but Vocalizer doesn't pause as I would hope.
I'll play with the recommended tweaks someone posted.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

I think that a pause after a period is largely synthesiser dependent. So
some synths will insert longer ones, others won't. By default, the 1core
voices from Microsoft have what is, to me, an insanely lengthy pause
between both period and the next sentence and after a comma. You can
adjust this in a very well hidden and protected .ini file. I don't think
Eloquence has anything similar. Maybe reduce the general speech rate
(although I know this isn't exactly what you want), or try Vocalizer, or
one of the Microsoft voices.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of
fenderwal@...<mailto:fenderwal@...>
Sent: August 17, 2019 7:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Esoteric punctuation question.

Hi, folks.

I decided to get serious about learning JFW. Lots of interesting
discoveries, and, a few puzzles.

Here is one. I noticed that with or without punctuation spoken, JAWS
kind of rushes past what I consider to be normal length punctuation
pause intervals. With Window-Eyes, I was able to put a period character
after char.chr dictionary entries, thereby increasing the pause
interval. This does not work with the JAWS Eloquence voice, however. To
my question.

Is there a setting in JAWS to adjust punctuation pause intervals?

Thank you in advance for your help,
Lou N.



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moderated Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Fascinating. Too many incidents of this type feed the fuel of those who disapprove of JAWS. Thanks for the feedback.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Dean

Well, my system running Jaws 2019 latest version and Windows 10 1903 blocks my use of desktop shortcut keys. I've had one session when Eric Damery remoted into my system and it has him and their developers stumped. There are at least two others that he is dealing with directly with the same issue.

If I unload Jaws 2019 and load Jaws 2018, all the shortcuts work perfectly.

I now use pinning my most used programs to the Task Bar and use the Windows Key with their corresponding number to launch them.

So, the whole point of this is to say, avoid making blanket statements.

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:



Hi Dean,

 

Thanks for your response.

I’ve successfully set the shortcut keys I wanted now so no need to discuss this further.

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2019 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi.  This is all discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide.  I’m not sure why you’re going to File Locations to set shortcuts, I’ve never looked there.

 

A JAWS installation will not affect any shortcut keys you’ve set in windows unless there’s a JAWS key conflict, and even then, JAWS won’t see the keystroke.

 

Perhaps give an example of a keyboard shortcut that you set before, and that doesn’t work now.  How did you set the shortcut before?  Incidentally, I know this was discussed before, but I didn’t read the thread thoroughly.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

https://techforblind.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry, I know this was covered a couple of times before but I don’t seem to have kept the resolutions. So …

 

Like Anne, I’m finding that the shortcut keys I set aren’t working in Windows 10.

 

I went to file locations, then properties and input my shortcut keys for certain apps, but was still unsuccessful. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses, and regards

Zel


moderated Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

Richard Turner
 

Dean
Well, my system running Jaws 2019 latest version and Windows 10 1903 blocks my use of desktop shortcut keys. I've had one session when Eric Damery remoted into my system and it has him and their developers stumped. There are at least two others that he is dealing with directly with the same issue.
If I unload Jaws 2019 and load Jaws 2018, all the shortcuts work perfectly.
I now use pinning my most used programs to the Task Bar and use the Windows Key with their corresponding number to launch them.
So, the whole point of this is to say, avoid making blanket statements.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Zel Iscel <zel@...> wrote:



Hi Dean,

 

Thanks for your response.

I’ve successfully set the shortcut keys I wanted now so no need to discuss this further.

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2019 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi.  This is all discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide.  I’m not sure why you’re going to File Locations to set shortcuts, I’ve never looked there.

 

A JAWS installation will not affect any shortcut keys you’ve set in windows unless there’s a JAWS key conflict, and even then, JAWS won’t see the keystroke.

 

Perhaps give an example of a keyboard shortcut that you set before, and that doesn’t work now.  How did you set the shortcut before?  Incidentally, I know this was discussed before, but I didn’t read the thread thoroughly.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

https://techforblind.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry, I know this was covered a couple of times before but I don’t seem to have kept the resolutions. So …

 

Like Anne, I’m finding that the shortcut keys I set aren’t working in Windows 10.

 

I went to file locations, then properties and input my shortcut keys for certain apps, but was still unsuccessful. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses, and regards

Zel


moderated Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

Zel Iscel
 

Hi Dean,

 

Thanks for your response.

I’ve successfully set the shortcut keys I wanted now so no need to discuss this further.

Cheers

Zel

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2019 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi.  This is all discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide.  I’m not sure why you’re going to File Locations to set shortcuts, I’ve never looked there.

 

A JAWS installation will not affect any shortcut keys you’ve set in windows unless there’s a JAWS key conflict, and even then, JAWS won’t see the keystroke.

 

Perhaps give an example of a keyboard shortcut that you set before, and that doesn’t work now.  How did you set the shortcut before?  Incidentally, I know this was discussed before, but I didn’t read the thread thoroughly.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

https://techforblind.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry, I know this was covered a couple of times before but I don’t seem to have kept the resolutions. So …

 

Like Anne, I’m finding that the shortcut keys I set aren’t working in Windows 10.

 

I went to file locations, then properties and input my shortcut keys for certain apps, but was still unsuccessful. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses, and regards

Zel


moderated Re: updates

 

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:58 AM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
Isn’t it nice that they send an update as soon as they discover a problem?
Yep.   The idea of "software as a service" (or close to it) is a feature, not a bug.   And given that JAWS is expected to run under Windows 10, and as Microsoft changes and/or fixes things this could "break" certain things on JAWS, I'd expect they're updating and pushing out said updates to keep up with that as well as for other reasons.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Setting shortcut keys for apps

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Hi.  This is all discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide.  I’m not sure why you’re going to File Locations to set shortcuts, I’ve never looked there.

 

A JAWS installation will not affect any shortcut keys you’ve set in windows unless there’s a JAWS key conflict, and even then, JAWS won’t see the keystroke.

 

Perhaps give an example of a keyboard shortcut that you set before, and that doesn’t work now.  How did you set the shortcut before?  Incidentally, I know this was discussed before, but I didn’t read the thread thoroughly.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

https://techforblind.us

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting shortcut keys for apps

 

Hi all,

 

Sorry, I know this was covered a couple of times before but I don’t seem to have kept the resolutions. So …

 

Like Anne, I’m finding that the shortcut keys I set aren’t working in Windows 10.

 

I went to file locations, then properties and input my shortcut keys for certain apps, but was still unsuccessful. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses, and regards

Zel


moderated Setting shortcut keys for apps

Zel Iscel
 

Hi all,

 

Sorry, I know this was covered a couple of times before but I don’t seem to have kept the resolutions. So …

 

Like Anne, I’m finding that the shortcut keys I set aren’t working in Windows 10.

 

I went to file locations, then properties and input my shortcut keys for certain apps, but was still unsuccessful. What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks in advance for your responses, and regards

Zel


moderated Re: updates

Ron Pelletier
 

Isn’t it nice that they send an update as soon as they discover a problem? Would you rather go back to the times when they updated once a year when the new version came out? Kind of a funny question to ask in this day and age!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:29 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: updates

 

Why so many updates to Jaws?


moderated Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

Van Lant, Robin
 

I don’t think Vocalizer is any better.  Much of the time the pause is an acceptable level, but there are enough times when it’s almost as if there is no pause at all.  I’ll go back to see if I forgot to type a period and find one there, but Vocalizer doesn’t pause as I would hope.   I’ll play with the recommended tweaks someone posted.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

 

I think that a pause after a period is largely synthesiser dependent. So some synths will insert longer ones, others won’t. By default, the 1core voices from Microsoft have what is, to me, an insanely lengthy pause between both period and the next sentence and after a comma. You can adjust this in a very well hidden and protected .ini file. I don’t think Eloquence has anything similar. Maybe reduce the general speech rate (although I know this isn’t exactly what you want), or try Vocalizer, or one of the Microsoft voices.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: August 17, 2019 7:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Esoteric punctuation question.

 

Hi, folks.

 

I decided to get serious about learning JFW. Lots of interesting discoveries, and, a few puzzles.

 

Here is one. I noticed that with or without punctuation spoken, JAWS kind of rushes past what I consider to be normal length punctuation pause intervals. With Window-Eyes, I was able to put a period character after char.chr dictionary entries, thereby increasing the pause interval. This does not work with the JAWS Eloquence voice, however. To my question.

 

Is there a setting in JAWS to adjust punctuation pause intervals?

 

Thank you in advance for your help,

Lou N.



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moderated Re: unselecting all desktop items

david
 

on the desktop, press,

ctrl+spacebar,

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:03 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: unselecting all desktop items

 

What is the Jaws key stroke to unselect everything on the desktop so I can select to alphabetize the icons?

 

Thanks,

Al           


moderated Re: unselecting all desktop items

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Control + space

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: August 19, 2019 5:03
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: unselecting all desktop items

 

What is the Jaws key stroke to unselect everything on the desktop so I can select to alphabetize the icons?

 

Thanks,

Al           


moderated Re: updates

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

JAWS has periodic updates to make sure it’s working. Some of these might be mixes/patches for bugs found in the original version of 2019 so far. If you have an SMA (the Software Maintenance Agreement), you’ll get the updates free when you’ve purchased the latest full upgrade. Please go to the Vispero/Freedom Scientific webpage to find out how to sign up for the SMA if you’re not already using one. It’s about $120, but it’s worth it to keep your screen reader running smoothly, isn’t it?  


On Aug 19, 2019, at 6:28 AM, T. Civitello <tcivi31@...> wrote:

Why so many updates to Jaws?


moderated unselecting all desktop items

Alan Robbins
 

What is the Jaws key stroke to unselect everything on the desktop so I can select to alphabetize the icons?

 

Thanks,

Al           


moderated Re: updates

Rick Mladek
 

That sure was a politically correct way to say JAWS/Freedom Scientific or whomever they call themselves now messed up and had to put out a “fix”. Feel blessed they have not begun charging for their said fixes yet.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: updates

 

Every item in the release notes accompanying each update serves as a reason for releasing the update.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, August 19, 2019 at 07:28
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: updates

 

Why so many updates to Jaws?


moderated Re: updates

Jason White
 

Every item in the release notes accompanying each update serves as a reason for releasing the update.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of "T. Civitello" <tcivi31@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, August 19, 2019 at 07:28
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: updates

 

Why so many updates to Jaws?


moderated updates

T. Civitello
 

Why so many updates to Jaws?


moderated subscribe

T. Civitello
 

   
 


moderated accessible free webdesign ide for jaws

Marvin Hunkin <startrekvoyager@...>
 

Hi. Wondering, what good free, accessible web design ides would you recommend. Did have adobe cs 5.5 , dreamweaver. But don’t have that any more.

Thanks.

 


moderated Re: Software there can record picture and sound from JAWS

Richard Turner
 

I was curious about this, so I did a little searching.

I noticed that on my system, Game bar is off, so you may need to go into settings and enable the features you want, but here is an article about generic use of the Game Bar at least so far as Xbox is concerned, but it looks like you can choose to use it wherever you want.

 

https://www.polygon.com/2015/7/31/9081715/windows-10-game-bar-how-to-record-screen-video

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 5:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Software there can record picture and sound from JAWS

 

Hi,

 

You can include microphone input in what you record.  I do not think you can change the audio source from the system defaults but if you were to change say your default microphone that should work.

 

I’ll try and make an audio demo of using this in the next few days.

 

Kelly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Software there can record picture and sound from JAWS

 

I think maybe a short audio demo/tutorial on this would be most helpful. Is it possible, for example, to change the source of the audio, or are we stuck with whatever comes through the default Windows audio device? If this works well and is reliable, then maybe things like OBS Studio wouldn't be necessary. I would much prefer something where I can talk along with what my screenreader is saying so I can explain what's about to happen, or what is happening, as I demonstrate.

 

On 8/17/2019 7:21 AM, Kelly wrote:

The other nice thing about the Game Bar recording is that by default it records just the active window so items from other windows you might have open won’t appear.  As I said for me, it has become my go to way for making screen recordings.

 

Kelly