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moderated Re: Used computer

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I wonder if that's why I can't seem to access the link
http://opopanax.net/download/ since it says it can't establish a connection to
the server.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

yep, I think that's him. couldn't remember the spelling of his last name. he
passed away in around August or September of 2017.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 6:22 PM
Subject: Used computer
Hey Mario.
Do you mean Carlos Nazario?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Glenn, is the ISO from Carlos Navario or is it from someone else?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 4:59 PM
Subject: Used computer
Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen
to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get
it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can
detect all
the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure
as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who
tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they
succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At the
same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and
put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the
passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep
their
passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the
ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few
scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has to
make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it if
you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without
the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order
to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you
and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer
tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected
computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything
on the
system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way
that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory
fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

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moderated Re: Used computer

 

For those who need to burn an ISO file to a USB thumb drive, using Rufus, see steps 3 through 5 of my tutorial:

Completely Clean Win10 (Re)install Using MCT to Download Win10 ISO File

How one creates bootable media using Rufus doesn't change based on what's being burned as bootable.  The partitioning scheme part is irrelevant to certain media since it doesn't attempt to create partitions, but if you follow the instructions in those three steps as appropriate for the machine being worked on you'll be just fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Chris Hill
 

I haven't been following this too closely, but I've never had the problem.  One possible common denominator here may be the use of outlook.  I've never used it, and very seldom used any other MS email client, and have never had the problem.  Maybe that is a clue.

On 11/18/2019 09:34, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I have also experienced this starting with JAWS 18.  In fact, it happened just before composing this message.  I am running JAWS 2019.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I skipped from JAWS 2016 to 2019; not a problem until 2019, at least for me.
Annoying!


Sandra

The gift of mental energy comes from God, the supreme being and if we
concentrate  our thoughts on this truth we get into harmony with this great
power.
(Nikola Tesla)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

This has been a problem with every version of JFW I have used.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse.  I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG













moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Marty Hutchings
 

I have also experienced this starting with JAWS 18. In fact, it happened just before composing this message. I am running JAWS 2019.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Streeter
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I skipped from JAWS 2016 to 2019; not a problem until 2019, at least for me.
Annoying!


Sandra

The gift of mental energy comes from God, the supreme being and if we
concentrate our thoughts on this truth we get into harmony with this great
power.
(Nikola Tesla)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

This has been a problem with every version of JFW I have used.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse. I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

David Griffith
 

 

Many thanks

I have saved your additions and will create a master list.

I agree that a short description would be helpful.

Also eventually a download link or advice on how to get the application would also be helpful I think,.

Someone suggested that a Wiki page may be available to this list which may host this information.

I don’t know if  anybody knows if this is true and whether  or how we could  use it for such a purpose.

Thanks again

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 18 November 2019 08:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

Thanks David, it’s a good start. It will also give us idea about using various JAWS compatible programs which may be useful to us other than we are currently using. Perhaps a small description can be added to those which are not obvious in their use.I have added two extra –Cisco Jabber & Oracle applications

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I followed my own advice and reproduce the list of programs on my system that I have used at least once or twice with Jaws  can think is accessible. Some programs I have used more than others. I have used MP3Direct cut hundreds of times but Audacity less so if people want any clarification of the programs I use then the amount of feedback I will be able to give  will vary.

By the way in creating the application folder tip I gave earlier I forgot to remember that you get more joy arrowing rightwards rather than with the down arrow in reading what all your installed apps are.

 

Anyway here we go as a start list.

 

N.B rather than reproduce all these People could perhaps add programs that they are using to this list and I can try and consolidate it all into a master list.

 

Programs I am personally using with Jaws.

 

7-Zip

ABBYY FineReader 12

Audacity

Audible Manager and downloader

Balabolka (eBook TTS Reader)

BBC iPlayer TV (Webbie)

BBC iPlayer Radio (Webbie)

Belarc Advisor (Diagnostics)

Brave Browser

Bookworm (eBook reader – only just installed)

Bulk Rename Utility

CDex 1.71 (CD Ripper)

CD Burner XP (CD Burner – have only used to limited extent)

CloseAll  (Closes all windows and applications running)

Clock2 (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Copy file Names

Copy Path

Codex eBook Converter.

Cisco Jabber softphone accessible with JAWS scripts available on Cisco website

Daisy Book Generator

DirZip (for creating separate zips of several folders in a directory.

Dropbox

DVD Audio Extractor

Eloquence

Excel

Explorer ++

Firefox Portable

Format Factory (File Conversion)

FreeM4B to Mp3 converter

FSReader 3

GoldWave

Google Chrome

Humanware Companion  (For Victor reader Devices)

Internet Explorer

Inaudible Audible book Converter

iCloud  (for transfer to iPone and iPad)

iTunes

IrfanView  (image viewer- now only use to Jaws OCR on)

Jarte +(Wordpad Replacement with spellchecker and other features)

Jaws 2019

JAWS 2020

Kindle Accessible Version

Kurzweil 1000 v. 14

NVDA

Mail

Master Seeker (Fast file finder)

Microsoft Edge

Mp3Directcut (easy editing of mp3 files)

MP3Gain(increase volume of mp3 files)

MP3Tag (edit and quickly create  mp3 ags)

Narrator

Notepad

Office

OneDrive

Outlook

Outlook Address Book View. (allows more reliable and easier viewing  and saving of contacts)

Open Book

Oracle Enterprise suite (can confirm the accessibility on Finance module which works after installing Java –both 32 bit & 64 bit)

 

QCast (Podcast downloader)

QRead (eBook Reader)

OverDrive for Windows

People

Ponte's Media Downloader (Youtube downloader)

Podcast downloader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Plextext transfer (For use with Pllextalk Daisy Readers)

RSS Reader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Sendspace Wizard

Sharp Keys (For remapping keyboard)

Speak On Media Suite (For accessing RNIB Newspapers etc)

Spotify

SyncBack Free (Back up utility)

Switch  (Media Converter)

Task Manager

Tapin Radio

TextAloud  3 (Creates TTS Audio Books)

Team Viewer (Remote Screen sharing)

TWBlue  (Twitter Client)

Unchecki (Stops Adware and Malware by unchecking boxes in installs)

VLC media player

Windows Media Player

Waterfox Portable

Word

WordPad

Virtual Recorder (Records output from sound car)

 

 

Hope we can start something here.

of

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 November 2019 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Sandra Streeter
 

I skipped from JAWS 2016 to 2019; not a problem until 2019, at least for me.
Annoying!


Sandra

The gift of mental energy comes from God, the supreme being and if we
concentrate our thoughts on this truth we get into harmony with this great
power.
(Nikola Tesla)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

This has been a problem with every version of JFW I have used.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse.  I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Used computer

Mario
 

yep, I think that's him. couldn't remember the spelling of his last
name. he passed away in around August or September of 2017.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 6:22 PM
Subject: Used computer
Hey Mario.
Do you mean Carlos Nazario?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Glenn, is the ISO from Carlos Navario or is it from someone else?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, November 17, 2019, 4:59 PM
Subject: Used computer
Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen
to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hutchings"
<mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get
it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can
detect all
the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure
as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli company who
tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't remember if they
succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At the
same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and
put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask you for the
passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people would keep
their
passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or being shoved to the
ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves probably have few
scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has to
make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable
it if
you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without
the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order
to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device at you
and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a computer
tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password protected
computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything
on the
system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any way
that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to factory
fresh without a Windows 7 disk?

----------------------------------------

























.









.


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Same with me here. I use the alt a lot because I have six languages stored
and have to cycle with alt-shift among them. Often alt especially, appears
depressed and prevents me from doing other things. I also recently had a
problem when taskbar somehow pops up and freezes jaws and perhaps, movement
of keys. Then, it either takes me an effort to get out of this, often by
quitting and restarting jaws, but I somehow often get to a page which
concerns screen magnification which I understand, is a narrator thing from
which I exit with some hard effort. Unlike with a previous posting, narrator
doesn't seem to start together with jaws, but comes in later, me being
unable to say what has gone wrong.
Cheers to all,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I am so pleased you have mentioned this as I was going to buy a new
keyboard, thinking that my keyboard might be at fault.
Almost everytime I use a combination of keys like alt/tab or windows key/d
to get to the desktop, the computer behaves as though the alt or windows key
is still depressed - it isn't, but that is how it behaves. In fact it
happens for that little group of three keys, alt, windows key and the
control key, but it is the alt which is particularly nuisancesome.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: 17 November 2019 23:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse.  I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG In
the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

If you updated to win 1909, there is an issue with Bluetooth drivers.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: November 18, 2019 3:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

I am interested in troubleshooting this issue, too. I have an after shock that use to work just fine with almost zero latency. I believe a recent windows update or driver updates broke mine. I have stopped using it because the experience has become very unpleasant.

There is a major lag between key presses, which did not exist before.







Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: turab chimthanawala
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:26 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

Dear all,
I use an Aftershocks Bluetooth Headset and a HP Laptop.
Though initially the headphone is successfully paired with the Laptop and am able to use JAWS effectively, often after about an hour of using, JAWS voice keeps breaking. However, JAWS starts reading normally, if I turn off my headphone (which is not an option at work).
Thus, to continue using my headphone, the option I can figure is to restart the computer.
Any clue as to why this happens?

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

Rod
 

I am interested in troubleshooting this issue, too. I have an after shock that use to work just fine with almost zero latency. I believe a recent windows update or driver updates broke mine. I have stopped using it because the experience has become very unpleasant.

There is a major lag between key presses, which did not exist before.







Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: turab chimthanawala
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:26 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

Dear all,
I use an Aftershocks Bluetooth Headset and a HP Laptop.
Though initially the headphone is successfully paired with the Laptop
and am able to use JAWS effectively, often after about an hour of
using, JAWS voice keeps breaking. However, JAWS starts reading
normally, if I turn off my headphone (which is not an option at work).
Thus, to continue using my headphone, the option I can figure is to
restart the computer.
Any clue as to why this happens?

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Difficulty in pairing Bluetooth headset with Laptop

turab chimthanawala
 

Dear all,
I use an Aftershocks Bluetooth Headset and a HP Laptop.
Though initially the headphone is successfully paired with the Laptop
and am able to use JAWS effectively, often after about an hour of
using, JAWS voice keeps breaking. However, JAWS starts reading
normally, if I turn off my headphone (which is not an option at work).
Thus, to continue using my headphone, the option I can figure is to
restart the computer.
Any clue as to why this happens?

Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

CJ &AA MAY
 

I am so pleased you have mentioned this as I was going to buy a new
keyboard, thinking that my keyboard might be at fault.
Almost everytime I use a combination of keys like alt/tab or windows key/d
to get to the desktop, the computer behaves as though the alt or windows key
is still depressed - it isn't, but that is how it behaves. In fact it
happens for that little group of three keys, alt, windows key and the
control key, but it is the alt which is particularly nuisancesome.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: 17 November 2019 23:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse.  I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG In
the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
or Best Whishes, From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Tony
 

This has been a problem with every version of JFW I have used.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

I get worse.  I get the alt key spoken with any other key when switching
screens, such as alt down arrow, alt tab, etc.

.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 11/17/2019 5:37 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

CJ &AA MAY
 

Whenever I first open Outlook I always have to shift tab in and out before
Jaws has focus and also, whilst typing or reading an e-mail, Jaws often
jumps out of the e-mail and I have to shift tab back into it.
I am using Jaws 18 on Windows 10 with Office 365.

Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 18 November 2019 00:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

This has been going on for a long time, and FS hasn't fixed it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Kolesar" <kolesar16417@...>
To: "JAWS User's Group Mailing List" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:37 PM
Subject: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?


Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Tony
 

Don't hold your breath. This has been a problem for more than a decade.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:38 PM
To: JAWS User's Group Mailing List
Subject: Is anyone else having jaws loosing focus?

Hi to all.
Every time I turn around I'm hearing jaws lost focus.
I hope that this is going to be fixed in the December upgrade.
Or, would someone have a fix for this?
Many Thanks.
Ron Emergency Communication Station and Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,
From Ron U.S. Ham Radio Station KR3DOG


moderated Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

ARORA Meesha
 

Thanks David, it’s a good start. It will also give us idea about using various JAWS compatible programs which may be useful to us other than we are currently using. Perhaps a small description can be added to those which are not obvious in their use.I have added two extra –Cisco Jabber & Oracle applications

 

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 3:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I followed my own advice and reproduce the list of programs on my system that I have used at least once or twice with Jaws  can think is accessible. Some programs I have used more than others. I have used MP3Direct cut hundreds of times but Audacity less so if people want any clarification of the programs I use then the amount of feedback I will be able to give  will vary.

By the way in creating the application folder tip I gave earlier I forgot to remember that you get more joy arrowing rightwards rather than with the down arrow in reading what all your installed apps are.

 

Anyway here we go as a start list.

 

N.B rather than reproduce all these People could perhaps add programs that they are using to this list and I can try and consolidate it all into a master list.

 

Programs I am personally using with Jaws.

 

7-Zip

ABBYY FineReader 12

Audacity

Audible Manager and downloader

Balabolka (eBook TTS Reader)

BBC iPlayer TV (Webbie)

BBC iPlayer Radio (Webbie)

Belarc Advisor (Diagnostics)

Brave Browser

Bookworm (eBook reader – only just installed)

Bulk Rename Utility

CDex 1.71 (CD Ripper)

CD Burner XP (CD Burner – have only used to limited extent)

CloseAll  (Closes all windows and applications running)

Clock2 (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Copy file Names

Copy Path

Codex eBook Converter.

Cisco Jabber softphone accessible with JAWS scripts available on Cisco website

Daisy Book Generator

DirZip (for creating separate zips of several folders in a directory.

Dropbox

DVD Audio Extractor

Eloquence

Excel

Explorer ++

Firefox Portable

Format Factory (File Conversion)

FreeM4B to Mp3 converter

FSReader 3

GoldWave

Google Chrome

Humanware Companion  (For Victor reader Devices)

Internet Explorer

Inaudible Audible book Converter

iCloud  (for transfer to iPone and iPad)

iTunes

IrfanView  (image viewer- now only use to Jaws OCR on)

Jarte +(Wordpad Replacement with spellchecker and other features)

Jaws 2019

JAWS 2020

Kindle Accessible Version

Kurzweil 1000 v. 14

NVDA

Mail

Master Seeker (Fast file finder)

Microsoft Edge

Mp3Directcut (easy editing of mp3 files)

MP3Gain(increase volume of mp3 files)

MP3Tag (edit and quickly create  mp3 ags)

Narrator

Notepad

Office

OneDrive

Outlook

Outlook Address Book View. (allows more reliable and easier viewing  and saving of contacts)

Open Book

Oracle Enterprise suite (can confirm the accessibility on Finance module which works after installing Java –both 32 bit & 64 bit)

 

QCast (Podcast downloader)

QRead (eBook Reader)

OverDrive for Windows

People

Ponte's Media Downloader (Youtube downloader)

Podcast downloader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Plextext transfer (For use with Pllextalk Daisy Readers)

RSS Reader (Webbie Accessibility Suite)

Sendspace Wizard

Sharp Keys (For remapping keyboard)

Speak On Media Suite (For accessing RNIB Newspapers etc)

Spotify

SyncBack Free (Back up utility)

Switch  (Media Converter)

Task Manager

Tapin Radio

TextAloud  3 (Creates TTS Audio Books)

Team Viewer (Remote Screen sharing)

TWBlue  (Twitter Client)

Unchecki (Stops Adware and Malware by unchecking boxes in installs)

VLC media player

Windows Media Player

Waterfox Portable

Word

WordPad

Virtual Recorder (Records output from sound car)

 

 

Hope we can start something here.

of

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 November 2019 14:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Resource for Jaws Accessible Programs

 

I changed the subject line to reflect the new discussion.

As a starting point on this list it would be useful if people could list the programs they know work well on their system with Jaws.

I can offer one tip  to make it easier to establish which app people have on their system. Someone might have a better idea.

If you type or copy and paste the following command into the windows R run dialogue,

shell:AppsFolder command

and press enter

This will open a list view with  all the apps you have on your system.

You can simply arrow down to review then all.

Here you can press enter to run the app or perhaps more usefully use the context key to create a shortcut .

For our purposes here you simply have to cursor down the list of aps, after about 10 apps open the Jaws speech history with insert space , then H and you should see the list  of apps you have arrowed down in a form that you can copy and paste into a notepad file by pressing control a and then control c.

Alt tab back to your apps folder and continue cursoring down for about 10 app, open speech history history again and copy the resulting apps into your notepad file.

Continue until you have a file list of all the apps on your system.

As I say someone else might have a more elegant solution.

In any case edit the Notepad file to delete all the apps you know don’t work with Jaws.

Also you should probably delete any app that you don’t know if they work with Jaws or if you don’t want anybody else to know you have this app on your system.

I’ll try and do this as a starter list and others can then add or criticise the resulting list I have.

 

David Griffith

 

 

                               

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes David, even I was delighted to find that JAWS works on this as it didn’t work on other apps I tried.

As for having a resource which could provide us with the list of JAWS accessible program, I think it will be immensely useful. Perhaps we can put the programs/Apps names in an excel and share it. May be we can give it versions so if any one wishes to add any list of programs or apps names, they can add these to the existing list and save it to the next version and share it in this group.

Perhaps it would work at least for the interim untill such a resource is available through Vispero.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Very glad it worked– I did see this option on the Microsoft Store  but I was not sure you would be able to use it.  I am especially pleased it is accessible with Jaws. Not all apps are though I think the situation is improving.

We need an Apple Vis type website with category lists of programs and Microsoft Store Apps Which are confirmed  to work with Jaws.

There is something  called NVDA Road tested Programs on Accessibility Net which is pretty much guaranteed to provide options for Jaws as well but somethings are accessible with Jaws and not NVDA and vice versa.

There used to be a Programs page on the old Jaws User Mailing list website but this seems defunct now and will not load here.  Tom Lorimore’s White Stick website will not be update given his recent sad death. I don’t know if anybody else knows of a similar resource?

VFO Should really host this  for the community I guess but if anybody has a web page that could be used I would be happy to provide some program suggestions and comments.

 

David Griffith

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: 15 November 2019 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Good Idea David, I tried a world clock app on the Microsoft store and it is accessible with JAWS and it groups different time zones although I have to navigate few times to reach it. Good part is that I can add more  than five, not that I need that manyJ

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

 

As a workaround have you tried separate World Clock  applications or Website?

For example

https://greenwichmeantime.com/timepiece/world-clock/

Once you have set  a website like this up to your desired time zone you can set it up as a shortcut on your desktop or even, with a bit of further fiddling and editing of the shortcut, put it on the windows 10 Taskbar. Let me know if you want instructions on this.

In terms of apps rather than websites I think you will need to search for World Clock  apps rather than clock apps as normal clock applications will just provide the standard feedback from the system time.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ARORA Meesha
Sent: 14 November 2019 07:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Yes I did try to go to the clock after pressing Windows B and then navigating to the system clock however it only provides feedback for one clock and not the other one.

Thanks

Meesha

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

You probably cannot do it with the JAWS F12 keystroke to check time, but if both clocks appear on your System tray in the bottom right of your screen, then you can try using Windows key B to get to the system tray, then arrowing left or right to hear the clocks.  I usually find focus is at the far left of the icons in the system tray, so it is fastest to arrow left and focus will quickly circle around to the far right of the icons where the standard system clock is.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to navigate between two clocks with JAWS

 

Hi members,

Can I check time for two time zones simultaneously using JAWS?

I have added two clocks however JAWS just provides feedback for one of it so not sure how to access time for the other one.

Thanks,

Meesha



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moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

Marty,
You may be able to select the boot drive by pressing one of the function keys on startup and arrowing down once or twice and pressing enter.
Often it is F12, but you can do a quick web search for computer brand and model and the words boot options.
And you will need sighted assistance if you decide to do the BIOS change.
I have used the free app Be My Eyes for this.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Used computer


OK. I have Win 7 PE and have created a boot disk and a boot USB drive. The DVD drive on the computer doesn't seem to work as it is not recognized in Windows Explorer. I will have to use the USB drive and to do that, I will need to change the Bios to boot from the USB drive letter. I will need sighted help for this, correct?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

You can boot to Win PE and copy out a user folder with all its files.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Not to sound ungrateful, but if you remember my original post, the machine that I am dealing with is a Windows 7 desktop computer. I know that after January, I would not be wise to continue using Windows 7, but if I was to upgrade to Windows 10, I would still have to get rid of the files that are behind the passwords.
Thanks for your help.


Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen
to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------































moderated Re: Used computer

Marty Hutchings
 

OK. I have Win 7 PE and have created a boot disk and a boot USB drive. The DVD drive on the computer doesn't seem to work as it is not recognized in Windows Explorer. I will have to use the USB drive and to do that, I will need to change the Bios to boot from the USB drive letter. I will need sighted help for this, correct?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

You can boot to Win PE and copy out a user folder with all its files.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glenn, Not to sound ungrateful, but if you remember my original post, the machine that I am dealing with is a Windows 7 desktop computer. I know that after January, I would not be wise to continue using Windows 7, but if I was to upgrade to Windows 10, I would still have to get rid of the files that are behind the passwords.
Thanks for your help.


Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even listen
to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do I get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can really be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried. At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better, ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or Touch Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or even if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently disable it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones. In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log in to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------



























moderated Re: Used computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

My pleasure.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Glen, I appreciate the files and the information.

James B


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi James,
Yes, you are right on both parts.
I like to use Universal USB Installer.
On that utility, you would select Windows 10 installer as the OS in the list
of distros.
The nice thing about using UUI is that it leaves the files on the disk, so
you can use a drive you already have.
Since Win PE boots into RAM, if you are wanting to install Windows, you can
take the DVD with Win PE and replace it with your install media.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Let me double check something.

If I use Windows to burn this to a DVD, I will be able to boot off of it.

And, If I am understanding right, I will need to use something like Rufus
to
put this file on a thumb drive and it be bootable.

Thanks for digging this stuff up for us.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 7:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if
your
computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only
on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit
version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove
the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do
I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can
detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can
really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think
in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all
you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab
your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better,
ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of
people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such
thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or
Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or
even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently
disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be
disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn
off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a
small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.
In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but
a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log
in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything
on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
----------------------------------------















































moderated Re: Used computer

James Bentley
 

Glen, I appreciate the files and the information.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Hi James,
Yes, you are right on both parts.
I like to use Universal USB Installer.
On that utility, you would select Windows 10 installer as the OS in the list
of distros.
The nice thing about using UUI is that it leaves the files on the disk, so
you can use a drive you already have.
Since Win PE boots into RAM, if you are wanting to install Windows, you can
take the DVD with Win PE and replace it with your install media.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Let me double check something.

If I use Windows to burn this to a DVD, I will be able to boot off of it.

And, If I am understanding right, I will need to use something like Rufus
to
put this file on a thumb drive and it be bootable.

Thanks for digging this stuff up for us.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 7:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Sorry for the mix-up, but here's the 64 bit one.
BTW, other than installing Windows, most things would work the same if
your
computer is a 64 bit, so for many things the first link is useful too.
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjUxMDQ1Nzhf/Win10PE_x64.ISO
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Shoot, then I copied the wrong link, I'll send another.
I have to upload it to OD, I thought I had put it up there, but it's only
on my computer.
The 64 has an X in the name too, and I wasn't paying enough attention.
As soon as it gets finished uploading, I'll send the link.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Your link contains " Win10PE_x86.ISO" which would indicate it's a 32 bit
version since normally X64 indicates a 64 bit version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

It's 64 bit, but I may have a 32 bit if anyone has to have it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Bentley" <bentleyj1952@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Hi Glen,

Is this download that you posted for Win10 32 bit?

If so, do you have this PE in Win10 64 bit?

Regards,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

Marty,
I put the Windows 10 Win PE in my Open Drive.
Here's a download link:
https://od.lk/d/N18xNjQyNDQ5Mjdf/Win10PE_x86.ISO
It is a version of windows that loads into RAM and you can even remove
the
boot media after it starts.
With this you can do repairs or install Windows, get on-line and even
listen

to audio.
It also has a network scanner in this version to help you get on-line.
You just cannot install to it because it will be gone on next boot-up.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Please pardon my ignorance here, but what is talking Win PE and how do
I
get it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

If you burn the talking Win PE to disk or USB and boot up, you can
detect
all the passwords on your computer with a tool that is on it.
That is the Win PE with eSpeak, not the one with Eloquence.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


Yes, no password can be bypassed by taking out a small piece.
I still would like to know about Windows passwords and if they can
really
be
discovered as easily as Glen and some others here say they can.
As for Apple, what was said is correct. This case was when those two
people
shot and killed a bunch of people during this Christmas party I think
in
California and I think it was now 2 years ago or maybe even 3.
Apple said they can't get into the iPhone which, by the way, was not as
secure as today's iPhones are, and I think the FBI hired some Israeli
company who tried to get in, millions were spent and I honestly can't
remember if they succeeded or not.
As for the Face Id thing and a thief pointing it at you that is only
correct
to some degree. If somebody snatched your iPhone and stuck around all
you
would have to do is cover your Face with your hands if you are worried.
At
the same time if a thief stuck around they could just as easily grab
your
hand and put your finger on the Touch Id home button or, even better,
ask
you for the passcode. If somebody is that callus I doubt a lot of
people
would keep their passcode to themselves after a few slaps or punches or
being shoved to the ground and kicked a few times which some such
thieves
probably have few scruples to do.
The fact is that even if he can unlock your phone once with Face Id, he
has
to make sure it doesn't lock and having unlocked it with Face Id or
Touch
Id
won't do them any good if they want to reset the phone to sell it or
even
if
they want to get into it and disable or change the Face Id/Touch Id/PIN
option. As soon as you go to Settings > Passcode you have to enter you
passcode. Apple security is indeed very good, even if your phone was
stolen
and they have your PIN, you could wipe the phone and permanently
disable
it
if you quickly log into iCloud and Find My iPhone also cannot be
disabled
without the passcode, the only way to stop it from working is to turn
off
the phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

So would I.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 3:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

I would love to know what that computer tech meant by taking out a
small
piece!
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Used computer


This entire security thing seems as farcical as face I D on iPhones.
In
order to get into your iPhone all the thief needs to do is point the
device
at you and poof he or she can use your device. I'm sure I am wrong but
a
computer tech told me years ago all one needs to do to use a password
protected computer is take out a small piece and then anyone can use it
after that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: November 16, 2019 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Used computer

try looking for a software called konboot that should allow you to log
in
to
those accounts with a password and remove them I think.
otherwise you may have to re--install windows thus removing everything
on
the system and starting from scratch.


Legend has it that on Friday 11/15/2019 10:23 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
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I have a used computer that a neighbor gave me. It is a Windows7 OS.
It has 3 password protected user accounts on it that are using
2/3 of the hard drive space. I don't know the passwords. Is there any
way that I can remove these accounts? Can this computer be restored to
factory fresh without a Windows 7 disk?
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