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Van Lant, Robin
Yes. my company uses it. I’m not a brilliant Webex user, but I may be able to answer a question.
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Van Lant, Robin
Why are you not just using the Kindle app for iPhone? It's perfectly accessible and works really well. That's the only way I read Kindle books. Just curious why you'd go through all the extra hoops of converting them to text if they are already accessible with chapter navigation and such in the IOS app.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Like David, I have no desire whatsoever to read on my pc. Unfortunately, it is an either/or situation with Kindle. Either you read books on the computer, in which case you can use the latest Kindle for Pc which has screen reader features, or you use Codex, which requires the older Kindle for PC version which does not. I choose the latter. I convert Kindle books into .txt or .epub effortlessly, and read them on my braille device or on and iPhone using Voice Dream Reader. Getting this process set up is a little tricky, but once that small hurdle is overcome, Kindle is wonderful. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary. On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Sue,
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In order for Codex to successfully convert Kindle books to plain text, you need to install Version: 1.17.1 (44183) of the Kindle for PC program on your computer and set it not to automatically update. If it updates to a later version, Codex will no longer work with Kindle books downloaded with it. I successfully installed version 1.17 after inadvertently updating my Kindle for PC on my Windows 7 computer and was able to successfully convert a Kindle book to ePub with Codex. You can download version 1.17 of Kindle for PC from here: http://turner42.com/KindleForPC-installer-1.17.44183.exe Alan Lemly
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 4:40 PM To: jaws list Subject: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know if it has been posted to the web training on demand yet, think it is going to be covered this Thursday April 9. I was wondering if you download books from the kindle store and you want to convert them so you can read in notepad what does everyone use since back in 2016 codex worked really well on my machine it does not work anymore, and since we are in the year 2020 what other programs can you use to convert the books from the kindle format to a plain text file? Thanks for any help.
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JAWS and Webex
Marty Hutchings
Are there any Cisco Webex Meetings users here?
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Richard Turner
Here is a little more info.
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Codex by James Scholes Here is a little section from his web site. I encourage any avid readers to follow the link below and read about it and install the utility. A few years ago, I wrote a tutorial which guided people through the installation and configuration of software for the purposes of gaining access to books purchased from the Amazon Kindle Store. The guide proved popular, but it required heavy use of the command line, making it unsuitable and daunting for quite a lot of people, not to mention that it was an absolute nightmare to troubleshoot if anything went wrong. Which it frequently did. Subsequently, in 2014, I started to develop a small prototype application to make the process easier and more intuitive, not only for people wanting to read Kindle eBooks, but also for me when people needed help. I named it Codex, a word used from the 16th century onwards to denote, now ancient, manuscripts in book form. In the second half of 2015, I finally rewrote that prototype to include the functionality I wanted it to have from the start, and the software is now publicly available to download. Please note, that you can only convert books you have purchased and only for your use--you cannot share them with others without violating the copyright laws and cheating the author out of their tiny royalties. In order to convert your Kindle books with Codex, you will need to install Kindle For PC version 1.17, or earlier, but you can get from my web site 1.17 here: http://turner42.com/KindleForPC-installer-1.17.44183.exe Here is the link to the Codex Project web site. http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/ This is Richard again, I purchased a Kindle book recently, Beginnings, A Kate Martinelli novella by Laurie R. King, and I couldn't download it and then update Kindle for PC, which was not a good plan. Make sure you get into the Kindle for PC settings and turn off automatic updates. Also, if you haven't used Kindle For PC, the registration screen is not very accessible and you may need sighted assistance to get your account set up. I think I will uninstall and try grabbing an older version even from the link Dean sent. Richard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 4:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Like David, I have no desire whatsoever to read on my pc. Unfortunately, it is an either/or situation with Kindle. Either you read books on the computer, in which case you can use the latest Kindle for Pc which has screen reader features, or you use Codex, which requires the older Kindle for PC version which does not. I choose the latter. I convert Kindle books into .txt or .epub effortlessly, and read them on my braille device or on and iPhone using Voice Dream Reader. Getting this process set up is a little tricky, but once that small hurdle is overcome, Kindle is wonderful. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary. On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know
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Re: VLC Revisited
JM Casey
Yep. It’s very odd, but this means everyone else should look out for it. There *was* a major windows update not that long ago for me…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: April 8, 2020 6:36 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: VLC Revisited
Many thanks This confirms that neither of us are sleepwalking to our computers and bizarrely muting VLC in our sleep.
Computers ! You have to love them or hate them.
David Griffith From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Well folks…I just tried top lay a clip in VLC, and, what do you know? No sound! Check sndvol And the volume is set to 0%! Th is isn’t the case with any other programme So eitehr a Windows update or VLC update must have caused this. I don’t recall an update to VLC recently…but it seems it might be a semi-universal thing.
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
Well, the deal apparently is that you can't use any version higher than 1.17 with Codex. Old versions are readily available. I use 1.14.243, but apparently 1.16 works too. Here's a page to find them: https://kindle-for-pc.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
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Uninstall the new version before installing an old version. Then go into the Kindle for Pc program and under options, tell the program not to upgrade automatically. When it prompts you, you can just say no to the upgrade. James Scholes has written a very clear manual about using Codex to convert Kindle books. It is here: http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/ After you read this, if you still have questions, a lot of people can answer them. It's a little tricky to get it set up, but once you do the results are well worth it. Dean
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 6:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files What version and how do you get it? And how does codex work? Sharon -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary. On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
Like David, I have no desire whatsoever to read on my pc. Unfortunately, it is an either/or situation with Kindle. Either you read books on the computer, in which case you can use the latest Kindle for Pc which has screen reader features, or you use Codex, which requires the older Kindle for PC version which does not. I choose the latter. I convert Kindle books into .txt or .epub effortlessly, and read them on my braille device or on and iPhone using Voice Dream Reader. Getting this process set up is a little tricky, but once that small hurdle is overcome, Kindle is wonderful.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary. On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know
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Re: VLC Revisited
David Griffith
Many thanks This confirms that neither of us are sleepwalking to our computers and bizarrely muting VLC in our sleep.
Computers ! You have to love them or hate them.
David Griffith
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 08 April 2020 00:30 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: VLC Revisited
Well folks…I just tried top lay a clip in VLC, and, what do you know? No sound! Check sndvol And the volume is set to 0%! Th is isn’t the case with any other programme So eitehr a Windows update or VLC update must have caused this. I don’t recall an update to VLC recently…but it seems it might be a semi-universal thing.
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Sharon
What version and how do you get it?
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And how does codex work? Sharon
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 12:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary. On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Hello. Codex continues to work but in order to use it you must use an earlier version of the Kindle for PC software which will not work at all with screen readers. This is a tradeoff I am willing to make as I have no desire to be tethered to my computer in order to read a book and prefer to use my iPhone. However, for several reasons I acknowledge that this is not an ideal situation for some people and that being able to use a Windows computer to read Kindle content may be preferable and even necessary.
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On 4/7/2020 5:40 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know if it has been posted to the web training on demand yet, think it is going to be covered this Thursday April 9. I was wondering if you download books from the kindle store and you want to convert them so you can read in notepad what does everyone use since back in 2016 codex worked really well on my machine it does not work anymore, and since we are in the year 2020 what other programs can you use to convert the books from the kindle format to a plain text file? Thanks for any help.
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Richard Turner
Have you considered checking to see if the books you want or have are on ghookshare?
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For $50 a year, you can download all the books you want and you can choose Word format, which if you really want as plain text would be rather easy to do.
Richard "Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous (Sent from my iPhone SE) Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “
On Apr 7, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Sue J. Ward <groovy41@...> wrote:
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Re: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Marie <magpie.mn@...>
Kevin, I have an Asus laptop and I don’t think you want to disable the FN
key because using it with the arrow keys works very well once you get used to
it. And try the methods posted by Brian and Pramit to get the function
keys back to what we are used to as f1 through f12.
Marie
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Minor
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Subject: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an
Asus Laptop. Hi.
To keep this on topic, I’m using JAWS 2020 on the latest Windows 10 PC. It’s an Asus laptop. I don’t remember the model, but it has 16 GB of RAM, a 512 GB SSD, and an 11 inch touch screen. It also has that dreaded FN key, and that is annoying, because you have to hit it along with the function keys to work with some JAWS functions. I have a nice Logitech Bluetooth keyboard that has a numeric keypad, and I made it so the FN key isn’t needed to hit the function keys to do things like have JAWS tell you the time. How do I disable it?
I have one other question. The laptop keyboard doesn’t have a numeric pad, so you use a combination of keys to accomplish something, such as FN+LEFT ARROW is the equivalent of the HOME key. If I make it so the FN key is no longer necessary, would that key combination no longer work?
Thanks in advance for help.
Kevin and Jilly, and Valerie who is practicing social distancing from her home
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Re: kindle books conversion to plain text files
Dale Heltzer
Though it's time-consuming, I have put Kindle into full-page mode (f11) and taken screenshots of each page, then done OCR with JAWS or Omnipage.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:40 PM To: jaws list <jfw@groups.io> Subject: kindle books conversion to plain text files Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know if it has been posted to the web training on demand yet, think it is going to be covered this Thursday April 9. I was wondering if you download books from the kindle store and you want to convert them so you can read in notepad what does everyone use since back in 2016 codex worked really well on my machine it does not work anymore, and since we are in the year 2020 what other programs can you use to convert the books from the kindle format to a plain text file? Thanks for any help.
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kindle books conversion to plain text files
Sue J. Ward
Hello. I noticed a post in reading kindle books using jaws don't know if it has been posted to the web training on demand yet, think it is going to be covered this Thursday April 9. I was wondering if you download books from the kindle store and you want to convert them so you can read in notepad what does everyone use since back in 2016 codex worked really well on my machine it does not work anymore, and since we are in the year 2020 what other programs can you use to convert the books from the kindle format to a plain text file? Thanks for any help.
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Re: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Kevin Minor
Hi.
Pramit, I wish I would have had your simple instructions to solve this earlier. I dealt with a Microsoft Disability agent that got me riled up. Your trick of FN+ESC worked like a charm. Thank you so much for the help.
Kevin and Jilly, and Valerie, who’s practicing social distancing from her home
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pramit
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Hi Kevin,
Try hitting FN key and Esc key once simultaneously, if that doesn't work use the other method.
Pramit
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Re: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Pramit
Hi Kevin, Try hitting FN key and Esc key once simultaneously, if that doesn't work use the other method. To disable or enable the function key (Fn) in the BIOS follow the below steps: • Turn off the computer. • Turn on the computer and immediately press the F10 key repeatedly, about once every second to open the BIOS setup window. • Press the right-arrow or left-arrow keys to navigate to the System Configuration option. • Press the up-arrow or down-arrow keys to navigate to the Action Keys Mode option, and then press the Enter key to display the Enable / Disable menu. • Select the desired mode: • Disabled: Requires pressing and holding the function key (Fn) while pressing one of the F1 through F12 keys to use the action indicated on the action key. Pramit
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 5:29 AM Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:
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Re: How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Without a specific model number, it is impossible to give definitive advice, but I'll tell you what I do know from the ASUS support page, [Notebook] Asus Keyboard hotkeys - Introduction, which was updated on March 10, 2020.
ASUS keyboard hotkeys are ON by default. That is you don't have to press Fn+ a function key in order to get the hotkey function activate, e.g., volume up/down. And that's apparently the state you're in. There is a built-in app on ASUS laptops called, ASUS Keyboard Hotkeys, that allows you to toggle between hotkey function and straight function key mode via the radio button you select. Hit Windows Key and immediately start typing "Asus keyboard" and it's likely to be the first search result at the top. Activate the app and then choose the radio button for F1-F12 as opposed to Hotkeys, close the app, and your Function Keys should act as straight function keys. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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How do I make it so I don't have to hit the FN key on an Asus Laptop.
Kevin Minor
Hi.
To keep this on topic, I’m using JAWS 2020 on the latest Windows 10 PC. It’s an Asus laptop. I don’t remember the model, but it has 16 GB of RAM, a 512 GB SSD, and an 11 inch touch screen. It also has that dreaded FN key, and that is annoying, because you have to hit it along with the function keys to work with some JAWS functions. I have a nice Logitech Bluetooth keyboard that has a numeric keypad, and I made it so the FN key isn’t needed to hit the function keys to do things like have JAWS tell you the time. How do I disable it?
I have one other question. The laptop keyboard doesn’t have a numeric pad, so you use a combination of keys to accomplish something, such as FN+LEFT ARROW is the equivalent of the HOME key. If I make it so the FN key is no longer necessary, would that key combination no longer work?
Thanks in advance for help.
Kevin and Jilly, and Valerie who is practicing social distancing from her home
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Re: VLC Revisited
JM Casey
Well folks…I just tried top lay a clip in VLC, and, what do you know? No sound! Check sndvol And the volume is set to 0%! Th is isn’t the case with any other programme So eitehr a Windows update or VLC update must have caused this. I don’t recall an update to VLC recently…but it seems it might be a semi-universal thing.
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