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moderated windows server software and jaws

Marvin Hunkin <startrekvoyager@...>
 

Hi. Interested in stretching the brain and interested in doing certificate iv networking from http://www.upskilled.edu.au. I know vmware work station and vm player works with jaws. They will be using windows server 2012 or later. So what accessible server software is out there that works with jaws, nvda, windows narrator.

Any one used this software.

Just want a heads up.

Thanks.

 


moderated Re: Creating forms

 

One can create perfectly accessible forms with Microsoft Word, but it seems virtually no one knows how to do it.

Here's a very simple one I created several years ago for someone working at a local school.  She needed to be able to fill out what they call "bus notes" that allowed a student to vary from the normal routine.

Every checkbox and form field is announced as you tab through the document that is created by using this form template as its basis.  Having it selected and hitting enter should open Word with "Document 1" having been created, which is an un-filled-out bus note.

Sample Bus Note Form Document Template (dotx)

There are many fillable PDF forms that are accessible, and others that are not because adequate labeling of the various checkboxes, edit boxes, radio buttons has not been done.  I don't have the software to create fillable PDF forms, though.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Using calculator

Gezim Rexha
 

That is exactly all what I needed, thanks so much.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


moderated Creating forms

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi fellow Listerrs,

 

Has anyone had any success with accessible form creation software. I was sent a form from the government. They claim that it is accessible to screen readers, but that is not actually factual. It is as accessible as Donald Trumps tax records. If anyone can help in this matter, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thx,


moderated Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

Terrie Terlau
 

Hi Dean,

Sorry to write on list, but could not find your private address. I can’t figure out how to buy both the Word and the spoken books from the product page and I want to purchase both. My private email is terrieter@...

Thanks for any help you can give regarding how to purchase.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Keyboard Power User Guide book available

 

I want to announce the release of Windows Keyboard Power User Guide, available in both interactive MP3 and Word formats, starting at $15.

 

You can learn about it at

https://techforblind.us.

 

Dean

 


moderated Re: Using calculator

JM Casey
 

In the Windows 10 calculator at least, there are loads of different modes and converters – it is pretty neat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: September 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

It can also be switched to scientific functionality.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Barbara

Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


moderated Re: links on web pages

Rick Mladek
 

Thanks John, I did not catch that... hmmmmm,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Rick,
I believe in his initial post he said he could not share the web site.

Regards,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

fenderwal@...
 

Hey, Mario and Dean.
 
Yes, I had changed the links quick key to l. What I omitted to add in my first post is that when l is set to move to next list--the quick key default, nothing weird happens. Thanks for the link to the power user info, Dean. I could use the workout! Lol!
 
Thanks, guys,
Lou



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS find.

Unless you have changed things in the Quick Key Manager, L takes you to the next list, not link.  U takes you to the next unvisited link, and you can edit the list in the Quick Key Manager to allow for a keystroke to activate Any Link, which is not active by default.  All that is discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide available from https://www.techforblind.us.  When forms mode is active, those letters are written into the form, they cannot serve as navigation quick keys then.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS find.

 

Hi, everybody.

 

Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?

 

JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.

 

I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.

Lou N.


moderated Re: links on web pages

Don H
 

can not share web page as it is behind password.

On 9/11/2019 11:28 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages
OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?
On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: links on web pages

Marty Hutchings
 

Try a different browser.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?


moderated Re: links on web pages

Mario
 

after arrowing to a link, press tab to the activate button and press
spacebar, or since the activate button is the first action, simply press
enter after arrowing to the link.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jschliff@...
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 12:01 PM
Subject: links on web pages
Bill,

I am not sure what you mean by tap the link to activate the link!

Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to
Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?















.


moderated Re: links on web pages

mike mcglashon
 

Hey guys:
I have experienced this phenomenon in law school with some websites;
The thing seems to be that the websites were designed in such a way that they do not expect nor allow keyboard input,
They are only looking for mouse clicks
I know this because I had sighted person use keyboard with no jaws on it, and still no dice with keyboard interaction;
But yet the mouse worked just fine.


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Couple things,
Try listing links and form fields, with F7 and if that does not work, use F5.
If neither of those work, try pass-key-through with Insert + #3 (above the E key).
After this is pressed, you can try space bar or enter.
You only get one pass-through with each action.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: links on web pages


Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?





moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Unless you have changed things in the Quick Key Manager, L takes you to the next list, not link.  U takes you to the next unvisited link, and you can edit the list in the Quick Key Manager to allow for a keystroke to activate Any Link, which is not active by default.  All that is discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide available from https://www.techforblind.us.  When forms mode is active, those letters are written into the form, they cannot serve as navigation quick keys then.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS find.

 

Hi, everybody.

 

Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?

 

JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.

 

I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.

Lou N.


moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

Mario
 

I don't think so, unless forms mode is set to automatic? maybe?

-------- Original Message --------
From: fenderwal@...
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 12:05 PM
Subject: Question about JAWS find.
Hi, everybody.
Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is
used?
JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab
key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for
move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing
the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of
the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find
dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key
default was in place, there was no problem.
I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the
hood, so to speak.
Lou N.


moderated Re: links on web pages

Glenn / Lenny
 

Couple things,
Try listing links and form fields, with F7 and if that does not work, use F5.
If neither of those work, try pass-key-through with Insert + #3 (above the E key).
After this is pressed, you can try space bar or enter.
You only get one pass-through with each action.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: links on web pages


Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?




moderated Re: links on web pages

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Try ctrl+JAWSKey+Enter in case this is an OnMouseOver.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: Using calculator

Glenn / Lenny
 

It can also be switched to scientific functionality.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Using calculator

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


moderated Re: links on web pages

John Doering
 

Rick,
I believe in his initial post he said he could not share the web site.

Regards,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: links on web pages

John Doering
 

Try this one...
Place your PC cursor on the link. Then use the move JAWS cursor to PC cursor key stroke. JAWS key lower left corner of num pad and upper right corner of num pad.
Then hit the num pad / key as a left mouse click.
See if that works.

HTH,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws.  I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. 
Hitting enter on the link does nothing.  This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try.  Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: links on web pages

Mario
 

in addition to Bill's suggestion, when on a link, press the application
key or shift+f10. there might be an action to open in a new tab or in a
new window. then press enter on which one you want. this works if the
website has been constructed in a certain way. I say this because it
doesn't apply all the time. I don't have the foggiest idea why.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 11:57 AM
Subject: links on web pages
Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to
Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?











.