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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Sharon
 

What do you mean as menus being quite as deep as? I’m confused about bookmarks for example in both Firefox and Google Chrome. IE is so simple. I don’t know what I’m missing here.

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

I don't think there is one best web browser.  The chromium-based ones are okay, although I try to avoid actual google chrome because of its spying.  I'd much rather use brave it blocks ads and lets me read things where other browsers just say you have to subscribe or allow ads.  I like firefox for the fact that its menus aren't buried quite as deep as chromium-based browsers.  Other than the menus they all basically work the same, so there really is no reason to restrict yourself to only using one browser.

 

 

On 6/26/2019 15:07, James Gashel wrote:

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Chris Hill
 

I don't think there is one best web browser.  The chromium-based ones are okay, although I try to avoid actual google chrome because of its spying.  I'd much rather use brave it blocks ads and lets me read things where other browsers just say you have to subscribe or allow ads.  I like firefox for the fact that its menus aren't buried quite as deep as chromium-based browsers.  Other than the menus they all basically work the same, so there really is no reason to restrict yourself to only using one browser.



On 6/26/2019 15:07, James Gashel wrote:

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

The Iowa Gal <iowagal728@...>
 

I have been using Brave and I really like it. I'm finding it faster than
Firefox and less complicated to configure than Chrome. But, as always, your
mileage may vary. So far I've found a focus problem on my grocery store's
site (Hy-Vee) and I haven't figured out how to read tables, as the Jaws
keystrokes aren't working.
https://brave.com/download/

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

ditto for me.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 5:42 PM
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I vote for Chrome. When the new Edge comes out, I suspect it will take over,
and I'm not sure how much difference between the two a user will notice. I
don't recommend the current Edge, it's being phased out anyway, and I'll let
others praise Firefox.



Dean





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser
to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this
and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is
best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



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E: jgashel0923@... <mailto:jgashel0923@...>



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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Firefox is very good but as one who is on the net for work and reading the most reliable and acceptable across platforms , in my opinion, is still IE. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

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E: jgashel0923@...

 

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

marvin kotler
 

                I vote for google chrome.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

ditto for me.

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 5:42 PM

Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

I vote for Chrome. When the new Edge comes out, I suspect it will take over,

and I'm not sure how much difference between the two a user will notice. I

don't recommend the current Edge, it's being phased out anyway, and I'll let

others praise Firefox.

 

 

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel

Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

 

 

Hi all:

 

 

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser

to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this

and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is

best.

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

 

 

James Gashel

 

 

 

M: (808) 234-9259

 

E: jgashel0923@... <mailto:jgashel0923@...>

 

 

 

Connect with me on FaceBook <https://www.facebook.com/james.gashel> , or

 

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Mario
 

ditto for me.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 5:42 PM
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

I vote for Chrome. When the new Edge comes out, I suspect it will take over,
and I'm not sure how much difference between the two a user will notice. I
don't recommend the current Edge, it's being phased out anyway, and I'll let
others praise Firefox.



Dean





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?



Hi all:



Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser
to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this
and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is
best.



Thanks.





Best,



James Gashel



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moderated Re: Is there a group for accessibility issues regarding Wordpress?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Sarah!

 

WOW, that is really nice of you!  Would you mind sending me your direct email so we could write off-list?  My direct email is below:

 

richardbmcdonald@...

 

Thanks!

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a group for accessibility issues regarding Wordpress?

 

Hi Richard,

I don't have the answer to your question directly Richard, however, i use WordPress daily for my clients and would be happy to answer questions you have.

Thanks,

Sarah

On 6/25/2019 10:23 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi!

 

At wordpress.com, there is an accessibility support group.  However, I have found it nonresponsive and inactive.  So, I am wondering if there is some other support group for accessibility issues such as using a screen reader with WordPress?

 

Thanks,

Richard

moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Dean Martineau
 

I vote for Chrome. When the new Edge comes out, I suspect it will take over, and I’m not sure how much difference between the two a user will notice. I don’t recommend the current Edge, it’s being phased out anyway, and I’ll let others praise Firefox.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

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E: jgashel0923@...

 

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moderated Re: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I agree completely. NoteTab Pro is one that will not work with the new method, so I have to have the driver on for that.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 25 June 2019 05:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

Please don't tell people to uninstall the video accessibility driver, that is very bad advice at this point especially if the accessibility display driver is checked in Settings. If that is the case and you uninstall the video display driver each time your system boots or Jaws restarts it will give you a message that the display driver is missing and while the system may mostly work fine, there are situations where it will not work correctly. I use software, for example, which works only if the accessibility display driver is enabled and in other situations it works better if it is disabled and I use the new so-called GDI or deep level hooking.
In any case, for most people who are just Jaws users and not terribly technically inclined this could have really bad consequences and they would then need tech support to help them fix the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

Hi,

Ok, try getting rid of the Accessibility Driver. You can either turn it off in JAWS Settings Center or uninstall it completely from "Programs and Features".

On 6/24/2019 5:44 PM, John Covici wrote:
For me, the Jaws cursor does nothing in admin mode, it works fine in
regular mode.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:28:54 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

I think John is saying JAWS doesn't read automatically with it. Yes
you should still be able to read with the JAWS cursor though.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: 23 June 2019 20:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

I just opened Power Shell (Admin) from the Windows + X menu and typed
ipconfig to display my computer's IP configuration and I can read
this with the Jaws cursor.

----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

I want to be able to use powershell, so I am not sure what you mean,
the only thing I see in properties (using powershell) is one checkbox
to toggle legacy console features. However, my problem appears in
both powershell and regular cmd.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 14:52:07 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:
You may have to set the command prompt to be legacy instead of using
PowerShell.

You can do this in CMD properties.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: 22 June 2019 19:52
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws does not work properly in admin command window

Hi. At least with version 1809, jfw will not read anything in the
command window if run as administrator. If I virtualize the window,
I see the text, but other wise nothing -- jaws cursor reads nothing
as well. Tech support says its not supported, but that makes no
sense to me and Narrator reads it fine.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
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How do
you spend it?

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moderated best web browser to use with JAWS?

James Gashel
 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

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E: jgashel0923@...

 

Connect with me on FaceBook, or

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moderated Re: Excel Formula

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 03:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
It would be nice if Jaws said something different when it encounters smart quotes, but it doesn't.
Isn't there a way to control this via a dictionary at a specific level [as in only when speaking character by character]?   That's a serious question, as I constantly get confused about what JAWS supports versus what NVDA supports and have flip-flopped the two on more than one occasion.
 
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moderated Re: Excel Formula

Richard Turner
 

Thanks.
It was just that in your first response, you didn't say whose formula had the smart quotes, but Russell clarified that his Mac was set to use smart quotes, which he has now turned off.

It would be nice if Jaws said something different when it encounters smart quotes, but it doesn't.

Later,
Richard


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

well, I was responding to your inquiry that you didn't know why Russel's formula wasn't working. but the quotes that surrounded the word Yes in your response are straight quotes. if they are smart quotes, JAWS would say left quote followed by the quote followed by saying right quote. if JAWS just says quote followed by the quote followed by quote, those are straight quotes.

hope it's clearer.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 1:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I know what they are, but you did not say if Russell had smart quotes or if I had smart quotes.

I'm blind and Jaws said the exact same thing in reading both versions.

You stated pretty straight forwardly that the smart quotes was the issue... Not helpful unless we know which version had the smart quotes.

Thanks,
Richard


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

left quotes and right quotes ar smart quotes. for example, left quote, I said that, right quote. the quotes are rarely referred to as curly quotes.
the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesis with a water droplet on the top half of the symbol pointing down, and the right quote is a smaller version of the right parenthesis with a water droplet at the bottom half of the symbol pointing up. in both symbols, the water droplet is a part of the left or right small parenthesis.
the concept is, the left quote marks the opening to what someone said, and the right quote is the closing of what someone said.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

So Mario, which one has smart quotes?

Jaws speaks them the same to me.

Richard


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

the smart quotes instead of strait quotes makes the difference.
crazy, isn't it? but true, watch out for these idiosyncrasies.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I’m not sure why Russell’s instructions didn’t work for me, but I did the following and it worked.
In b101: =COUNTIF(B2:B100,"Yes")
IN b102, =COUNTA(B2:B100)
In b103, =B101/B102

To test this, I put a Yes in b2 and No in b100.
I got 1 as the result of yes’s, 2 in the result for number of cells with data in b102, and .50 in b103 which then switching the number type to percent, got 50.00. I did not bother changing the decimal places from the default.

HTH,
Richard



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Steve,

Let’s say you have Yes or no in cells B2 to B100. In cell B101, or wherever you wish, type the formula, CountIf(B2:B100,”Yes”).
This will give you the number of cells with “Yes” in them.
Then, in B102, or whoever you wish, type the formula,
=CountA(B2:B100)
Note the letter “A” after “Count” in the above formula.
This will give you the total number of cells in column B that have data.
Now, to calculate the percentage of cells with “Yes” in them, in cell B103, or wherever, type the formula,
=B101/B102
You are dividing the number of “Yes” by the total number of cells with data.
You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1 while in that cell and change the number formatting to Percentage, choose the number of decimal places you wish to show, and tab to OK.

Hope this helps.

Russell


On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook <cookcafe@...<mailto:cookcafe@...>> wrote:

Hi All,

Using Excel 2016, Windows 10 and the current version of JAWS. I have an Excel sheet in column A I have the task a person must perform. In Column B I will answer yes or no if they can perform the task. Here is my issue, I want to create a formula at the bottom of column B to determine if they answered yes to 80% of the questions. I would greatly appreciate your assistance!

Steve

moderated Re: Excel Formula

Mario
 

well, I was responding to your inquiry that you didn't know why Russel's
formula wasn't working. but the quotes that surrounded the word Yes in
your response are straight quotes. if they are smart quotes, JAWS would
say left quote followed by the quote followed by saying right quote. if
JAWS just says quote followed by the quote followed by quote, those are
straight quotes.

hope it's clearer.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 1:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I know what they are, but you did not say if Russell had smart quotes or
if I had smart quotes.

I'm blind and Jaws said the exact same thing in reading both versions.

You stated pretty straight forwardly that the smart quotes was the
issue... Not helpful unless we know which version had the smart quotes.

Thanks,
Richard


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knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

left quotes and right quotes ar smart quotes. for example, left quote, I
said that, right quote. the quotes are rarely referred to as curly quotes.
the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesis
with a water droplet on the top half of the symbol pointing down, and
the right quote is a smaller version of the right parenthesis with a
water droplet at the bottom half of the symbol pointing up. in both
symbols, the water droplet is a part of the left or right small parenthesis.
the concept is, the left quote marks the opening to what someone said,
and the right quote is the closing of what someone said.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

So Mario, which one has smart quotes?

Jaws speaks them the same to me.

Richard


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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

the smart quotes instead of strait quotes makes the difference.
crazy, isn't it? but true, watch out for these idiosyncrasies.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I’m not sure why Russell’s instructions didn’t work for me, but I did
the following and it worked.
In b101: =COUNTIF(B2:B100,"Yes")
IN b102, =COUNTA(B2:B100)
In b103, =B101/B102

To test this, I put a Yes in b2 and No in b100.
I got 1 as the result of yes’s, 2 in the result for number of cells with
data in b102, and .50 in b103 which then switching the number type to
percent, got 50.00. I did not bother changing the decimal places from
the default.

HTH,
Richard



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Steve,

Let’s say you have Yes or no in cells B2 to B100. In cell B101, or
wherever you wish, type the formula, CountIf(B2:B100,”Yes”).
This will give you the number of cells with “Yes” in them.
Then, in B102, or whoever you wish, type the formula,
=CountA(B2:B100)
Note the letter “A” after “Count” in the above formula.
This will give you the total number of cells in column B that have data.
Now, to calculate the percentage of cells with “Yes” in them, in cell
B103, or wherever, type the formula,
=B101/B102
You are dividing the number of “Yes” by the total number of cells with data.
You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1
while in that cell and change the number formatting to Percentage,
choose the number of decimal places you wish to show, and tab to OK.

Hope this helps.

Russell


On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook
<cookcafe@...<mailto:cookcafe@...>> wrote:

Hi All,

Using Excel 2016, Windows 10 and the current version of JAWS. I have an
Excel sheet in column A I have the task a person must perform. In
Column B I will answer yes or no if they can perform the task. Here is
my issue, I want to create a formula at the bottom of column B to
determine if they answered yes to 80% of the questions. I would greatly
appreciate your assistance!

Steve

moderated Re: Fire fox Tutorial

JM Casey
 

No, but the firefox help system is allright and should be a benefit to you if you need it. Do you have any specific questions?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Stone
Sent: June 25, 2019 9:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fire fox Tutorial

 

Does anyone know of a tutorial for fire fox?  Thanks in advance

 

Kevin Stone

moderated Re: Excel Formula

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi John,

On my iMac there's a setting in Keyboard settings to use Smart Quotes and Dashes. It's either checked or unchecked. If it's checked, when you type a quote, it's automatically changed to a Smart Quote. Not sure how to do this in Windows... I think it's a setting within Outlook.

Thanks,

Russell

On Jun 26, 2019, at 12:07 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

How do you type these smart quotes?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:57:34 -0400,
Mario wrote:

left quotes and right quotes ar smart quotes. for example, left quote, I
said that, right quote. the quotes are rarely referred to as curly quotes.
the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesis
with a water droplet on the top half of the symbol pointing down, and
the right quote is a smaller version of the right parenthesis with a
water droplet at the bottom half of the symbol pointing up. in both
symbols, the water droplet is a part of the left or right small
parenthesis.
the concept is, the left quote marks the opening to what someone said,
and the right quote is the closing of what someone said.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

So Mario, which one has smart quotes?

Jaws speaks them the same to me.

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

the smart quotes instead of strait quotes makes the difference.
crazy, isn't it? but true, watch out for these idiosyncrasies.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I’m not sure why Russell’s instructions didn’t work for me, but I did
the following and it worked.
In b101: =COUNTIF(B2:B100,"Yes")
IN b102, =COUNTA(B2:B100)
In b103, =B101/B102

To test this, I put a Yes in b2 and No in b100.
I got 1 as the result of yes’s, 2 in the result for number of cells with
data in b102, and .50 in b103 which then switching the number type to
percent, got 50.00. I did not bother changing the decimal places from
the default.

HTH,
Richard



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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Steve,

Let’s say you have Yes or no in cells B2 to B100. In cell B101, or
wherever you wish, type the formula, CountIf(B2:B100,”Yes”).
This will give you the number of cells with “Yes” in them.
Then, in B102, or whoever you wish, type the formula,
=CountA(B2:B100)
Note the letter “A” after “Count” in the above formula.
This will give you the total number of cells in column B that have data.
Now, to calculate the percentage of cells with “Yes” in them, in cell
B103, or wherever, type the formula,
=B101/B102
You are dividing the number of “Yes” by the total number of cells with data.
You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1
while in that cell and change the number formatting to Percentage,
choose the number of decimal places you wish to show, and tab to OK.

Hope this helps.

Russell


On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook
<cookcafe@...<mailto:cookcafe@...>> wrote:

Hi All,

Using Excel 2016, Windows 10 and the current version of JAWS. I have an
Excel sheet in column A I have the task a person must perform. In
Column B I will answer yes or no if they can perform the task. Here is
my issue, I want to create a formula at the bottom of column B to
determine if they answered yes to 80% of the questions. I would greatly
appreciate your assistance!

Steve

















--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: JAWS 18, Chrome, and Oracle applications

Chris Hill
 

Yes, all browsers do.  In chrome, hit jaws+v to open the settings, type refr in the box, hit tab and you should be able to change the refresh setting from automatic, 60 seconds or off if your version is like Jaws 19, which I believe it is.



On 6/26/2019 13:00, John Doering wrote:

Hello:

At work we use JAWS 18 and Chrome to access Oracle applications.

For the past few days we have been experiencing an annoyance where when working down a web page either by arrowing down or using something else like by headings, we will get stuck in a section of a page.  You will go down so far, then be popped back up to the start of the section or page.

I think it may be caused by the page refreshing itself every 5 seconds.

Does Chrome automatically refresh itself at regular intervals and if so, can this be adjusted?

Any help or thoughts will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

John

 

moderated Re: Excel Formula

John Covici
 

How do you type these smart quotes?

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:57:34 -0400,
Mario wrote:

left quotes and right quotes ar smart quotes. for example, left quote, I
said that, right quote. the quotes are rarely referred to as curly quotes.
the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesis
with a water droplet on the top half of the symbol pointing down, and
the right quote is a smaller version of the right parenthesis with a
water droplet at the bottom half of the symbol pointing up. in both
symbols, the water droplet is a part of the left or right small
parenthesis.
the concept is, the left quote marks the opening to what someone said,
and the right quote is the closing of what someone said.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

So Mario, which one has smart quotes?

Jaws speaks them the same to me.

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

the smart quotes instead of strait quotes makes the difference.
crazy, isn't it? but true, watch out for these idiosyncrasies.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I’m not sure why Russell’s instructions didn’t work for me, but I did
the following and it worked.
In b101: =COUNTIF(B2:B100,"Yes")
IN b102, =COUNTA(B2:B100)
In b103, =B101/B102

To test this, I put a Yes in b2 and No in b100.
I got 1 as the result of yes’s, 2 in the result for number of cells with
data in b102, and .50 in b103 which then switching the number type to
percent, got 50.00. I did not bother changing the decimal places from
the default.

HTH,
Richard



Check out my web site at:
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0d3d893b497f40b286ef08d6fa52afb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636971630370466862&amp;sdata=t4P9ngoprfyq5VkbYdTfOzNj8%2FyhMepM2dlNI0nWQVQ%3D&amp;reserved=0<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0d3d893b497f40b286ef08d6fa52afb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636971630370466862&amp;sdata=wSbsazxpgdNeSTKDzjt9QKMsjIz8fSIlQexyjLq%2BEcE%3D&amp;reserved=0>
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flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Steve,

Let’s say you have Yes or no in cells B2 to B100. In cell B101, or
wherever you wish, type the formula, CountIf(B2:B100,”Yes”).
This will give you the number of cells with “Yes” in them.
Then, in B102, or whoever you wish, type the formula,
=CountA(B2:B100)
Note the letter “A” after “Count” in the above formula.
This will give you the total number of cells in column B that have data.
Now, to calculate the percentage of cells with “Yes” in them, in cell
B103, or wherever, type the formula,
=B101/B102
You are dividing the number of “Yes” by the total number of cells with data.
You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1
while in that cell and change the number formatting to Percentage,
choose the number of decimal places you wish to show, and tab to OK.

Hope this helps.

Russell


On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook
<cookcafe@...<mailto:cookcafe@...>> wrote:

Hi All,

Using Excel 2016, Windows 10 and the current version of JAWS. I have an
Excel sheet in column A I have the task a person must perform. In
Column B I will answer yes or no if they can perform the task. Here is
my issue, I want to create a formula at the bottom of column B to
determine if they answered yes to 80% of the questions. I would greatly
appreciate your assistance!

Steve

















--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: JAWS 18, Chrome, and Oracle applications

Rick Mladek
 

Hi John,

 

I notice this on IE and Firefox, as well.

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 2:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18, Chrome, and Oracle applications

 

Hello:

At work we use JAWS 18 and Chrome to access Oracle applications.

For the past few days we have been experiencing an annoyance where when working down a web page either by arrowing down or using something else like by headings, we will get stuck in a section of a page.  You will go down so far, then be popped back up to the start of the section or page.

I think it may be caused by the page refreshing itself every 5 seconds.

Does Chrome automatically refresh itself at regular intervals and if so, can this be adjusted?

Any help or thoughts will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

John

 

moderated Re: Excel Formula

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Richard,

Good to know. I just turned off "Smart Quotes" in System Preferences on my iMac, so all should be well now... hopefully! :)

Thanks,

Russell

On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Thanks Russell, that makes sense.
You will find too, that if you search for books with an apostrophe in the title, the smart single quote, which is supposed to be the apostrophe won't return any results.
I found this both with BARD and with Bookshare.

Richard


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Richard,

I think I have “smart quotes” in my instructions. I typed the instructions from Mail on my iMac, and, when I read your quotes VoiceOver reads Quote yes quote and in my instructions, VoiceOver reads right double quote Yes right double quote. Yes, it reads right double quote for both! :)

Thanks Mario for catching the differences, and apology Richard!

Russell

On Jun 26, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I know what they are, but you did not say if Russell had smart quotes or if I had smart quotes.

I'm blind and Jaws said the exact same thing in reading both versions.

You stated pretty straight forwardly that the smart quotes was the issue... Not helpful unless we know which version had the smart quotes.

Thanks,
Richard


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of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying.
The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and
miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

left quotes and right quotes ar smart quotes. for example, left quote, I said that, right quote. the quotes are rarely referred to as curly quotes.
the left quote is actually like or close to a smaller left parenthesis with a water droplet on the top half of the symbol pointing down, and the right quote is a smaller version of the right parenthesis with a water droplet at the bottom half of the symbol pointing up. in both symbols, the water droplet is a part of the left or right small parenthesis.
the concept is, the left quote marks the opening to what someone said, and the right quote is the closing of what someone said.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

So Mario, which one has smart quotes?

Jaws speaks them the same to me.

Richard


Check out my web site at:
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1JKCH0qmq1pVpj99%2FwC2V5ki46P6Pasho%3D&amp;reserved=0
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

the smart quotes instead of strait quotes makes the difference.
crazy, isn't it? but true, watch out for these idiosyncrasies.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 12:02 PM
Subject: Excel Formula

I’m not sure why Russell’s instructions didn’t work for me, but I did the following and it worked.
In b101: =COUNTIF(B2:B100,"Yes")
IN b102, =COUNTA(B2:B100)
In b103, =B101/B102

To test this, I put a Yes in b2 and No in b100.
I got 1 as the result of yes’s, 2 in the result for number of cells with data in b102, and .50 in b103 which then switching the number type to percent, got 50.00. I did not bother changing the decimal places from the default.

HTH,
Richard



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Formula

Hi Steve,

Let’s say you have Yes or no in cells B2 to B100. In cell B101, or wherever you wish, type the formula, CountIf(B2:B100,”Yes”).
This will give you the number of cells with “Yes” in them.
Then, in B102, or whoever you wish, type the formula,
=CountA(B2:B100)
Note the letter “A” after “Count” in the above formula.
This will give you the total number of cells in column B that have data.
Now, to calculate the percentage of cells with “Yes” in them, in cell
B103, or wherever, type the formula,
=B101/B102
You are dividing the number of “Yes” by the total number of cells with data.
You will get a number like 0.67 or something like that. Press CTRL + 1 while in that cell and change the number formatting to Percentage, choose the number of decimal places you wish to show, and tab to OK.

Hope this helps.

Russell


On Jun 25, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Steve & Shannon Cook <cookcafe@...<mailto:cookcafe@...>> wrote:

Hi All,

Using Excel 2016, Windows 10 and the current version of JAWS. I have an Excel sheet in column A I have the task a person must perform. In Column B I will answer yes or no if they can perform the task. Here is my issue, I want to create a formula at the bottom of column B to determine if they answered yes to 80% of the questions. I would greatly appreciate your assistance!

Steve
























moderated JAWS 18, Chrome, and Oracle applications

John Doering
 

Hello:

At work we use JAWS 18 and Chrome to access Oracle applications.

For the past few days we have been experiencing an annoyance where when working down a web page either by arrowing down or using something else like by headings, we will get stuck in a section of a page.  You will go down so far, then be popped back up to the start of the section or page.

I think it may be caused by the page refreshing itself every 5 seconds.

Does Chrome automatically refresh itself at regular intervals and if so, can this be adjusted?

Any help or thoughts will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

John