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moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Dave Durber
 

Glen:
 
I have that. All the versions of windows which are included with that TWPE, are for Windows 7.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August, 2020 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

No matter how you go about it, you can install windows 8 using WinPE, which uses NVDA, not Narrator.
You need to match the installer to the types of windows.
There are about half a dozen types of windows 7, and the mega.ISO of WinPE has the .WIM files for the various types of windows.
Glenn
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:24 AM
Subject: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

For those on this list, who used Windows 8 or 8.1, I have the following questions:
 
Did you upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 8.1. If you did, did the Windows  7 authorization  key, also authorize versions of Windows 8 or, did you need to purchase a new authorization key for versions of Windows 8;
 
If you had Windows 7 installed but, you decided to install a new installation of Windows 8 or 8.1, were you able to use the windows 7 key, to authorize versions of Windows 8.
 
Were you able to install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself or, did you have visual assistance;
 
If you installed Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, was Narrator available to you, to assist you through the installation process; and
 
If Narrator was not available, how didyou install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, without visual assistance.
 
I have suggested they upgrade to Windows 10 but, they are adament, they want Windows 8.
 
Dave
 
 


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Glenn / Lenny
 


Well I would not want 10, and they may not either.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Hi,

Actually, one can upgrade from Windows 7 to 8/8.1 through an in-place upgrade unless the product key is for a different edition. I concur with Brian: Windows 8.1 support ends in 2023, and beyond that point, Windows 10 is the way to go. This begs the question: did your friend tell you their reasons for not upgrading to Windows 10 for free?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

 

There is no upgrade path from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and never has been.   It must be installed from scratch, and you must acquire a license key for it.

The only free upgrade path was from Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 to Windows 10.

Personally, unless they're paying you, I'd refuse to install Windows 8.1 at this point.  It makes absolutely no sense to do so.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Glenn / Lenny
 

I suppose one could buy 8.1 on eBay and just use the new key.
That might cost around 25 dollars.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

The right answer here is forget about it.  Last time I messed with reinstalling 8, I could never get it to upgrade to 8.1, which left it an insecure mess.  Sometimes you just have to say no, and this is one of those.



On 8/11/2020 08:24, Dave Durber wrote:
For those on this list, who used Windows 8 or 8.1, I have the following questions:
 
Did you upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 8.1. If you did, did the Windows  7 authorization  key, also authorize versions of Windows 8 or, did you need to purchase a new authorization key for versions of Windows 8;
 
If you had Windows 7 installed but, you decided to install a new installation of Windows 8 or 8.1, were you able to use the windows 7 key, to authorize versions of Windows 8.
 
Were you able to install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself or, did you have visual assistance;
 
If you installed Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, was Narrator available to you, to assist you through the installation process; and
 
If Narrator was not available, how didyou install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, without visual assistance.
 
I have suggested they upgrade to Windows 10 but, they are adament, they want Windows 8.
 
Dave
 
 


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Glenn / Lenny
 

No matter how you go about it, you can install windows 8 using WinPE, which uses NVDA, not Narrator.
You need to match the installer to the types of windows.
There are about half a dozen types of windows 7, and the mega.ISO of WinPE has the .WIM files for the various types of windows.
Glenn
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:24 AM
Subject: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

For those on this list, who used Windows 8 or 8.1, I have the following questions:
 
Did you upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 8.1. If you did, did the Windows  7 authorization  key, also authorize versions of Windows 8 or, did you need to purchase a new authorization key for versions of Windows 8;
 
If you had Windows 7 installed but, you decided to install a new installation of Windows 8 or 8.1, were you able to use the windows 7 key, to authorize versions of Windows 8.
 
Were you able to install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself or, did you have visual assistance;
 
If you installed Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, was Narrator available to you, to assist you through the installation process; and
 
If Narrator was not available, how didyou install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, without visual assistance.
 
I have suggested they upgrade to Windows 10 but, they are adament, they want Windows 8.
 
Dave
 
 


moderated Re: jaws 2020 update?

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

It should be this month.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2020 update?

 

I don't think anyone knows when the next JAWS update will be released. It will be when Vispero has enough bugs fixed to make it worth it to release an update, and when they are fairly sure the "fixes" work on a wide range of system configurations.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 2020 update?

 

does anyone know when the next update will be release? the last update was released in June.

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: jaws 2020 update?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I don't think anyone knows when the next JAWS update will be released. It will be when Vispero has enough bugs fixed to make it worth it to release an update, and when they are fairly sure the "fixes" work on a wide range of system configurations.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 2020 update?

 

does anyone know when the next update will be release? the last update was released in June.

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

 

Hi,

Actually, one can upgrade from Windows 7 to 8/8.1 through an in-place upgrade unless the product key is for a different edition. I concur with Brian: Windows 8.1 support ends in 2023, and beyond that point, Windows 10 is the way to go. This begs the question: did your friend tell you their reasons for not upgrading to Windows 10 for free?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

 

There is no upgrade path from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and never has been.   It must be installed from scratch, and you must acquire a license key for it.

The only free upgrade path was from Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 to Windows 10.

Personally, unless they're paying you, I'd refuse to install Windows 8.1 at this point.  It makes absolutely no sense to do so.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Chris Hill
 

The right answer here is forget about it.  Last time I messed with reinstalling 8, I could never get it to upgrade to 8.1, which left it an insecure mess.  Sometimes you just have to say no, and this is one of those.



On 8/11/2020 08:24, Dave Durber wrote:
For those on this list, who used Windows 8 or 8.1, I have the following questions:
 
Did you upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 8.1. If you did, did the Windows  7 authorization  key, also authorize versions of Windows 8 or, did you need to purchase a new authorization key for versions of Windows 8;
 
If you had Windows 7 installed but, you decided to install a new installation of Windows 8 or 8.1, were you able to use the windows 7 key, to authorize versions of Windows 8.
 
Were you able to install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself or, did you have visual assistance;
 
If you installed Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, was Narrator available to you, to assist you through the installation process; and
 
If Narrator was not available, how didyou install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, without visual assistance.
 
I have suggested they upgrade to Windows 10 but, they are adament, they want Windows 8.
 
Dave
 
 


moderated Re: Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

 

There is no upgrade path from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and never has been.   It must be installed from scratch, and you must acquire a license key for it.

The only free upgrade path was from Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 to Windows 10.

Personally, unless they're paying you, I'd refuse to install Windows 8.1 at this point.  It makes absolutely no sense to do so.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Question regarding installing a new installation of Windows 8/8.1

Dave Durber
 

For those on this list, who used Windows 8 or 8.1, I have the following questions:
 
Did you upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 8.1. If you did, did the Windows  7 authorization  key, also authorize versions of Windows 8 or, did you need to purchase a new authorization key for versions of Windows 8;
 
If you had Windows 7 installed but, you decided to install a new installation of Windows 8 or 8.1, were you able to use the windows 7 key, to authorize versions of Windows 8.
 
Were you able to install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself or, did you have visual assistance;
 
If you installed Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, was Narrator available to you, to assist you through the installation process; and
 
If Narrator was not available, how didyou install Windows 8 or 8.1 yourself, without visual assistance.
 
I have suggested they upgrade to Windows 10 but, they are adament, they want Windows 8.
 
Dave
 
 


moderated jaws 2020 update?

Leo
 

does anyone know when the next update will be release? the last update was released in June.


--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: win 8. talking win pe1

Marvin Hunkin
 

hi, well need to find the win 8 or win 8.1 talking pe, to install windows 8 or 8.1 for a assignment for my networking course. some one did create one on the audio games.net, but cannot seem to find it and did create a new account. but not allowing new posts at the moment. and no way to contact the developers, as maybe still a robot. can any one help me out. that's what i need it for. then the second part of the assignment, do a inline upgrade, like to windows 10. but did try the win 7 talking installer. got nvda inside vmware player. but would not install windows 8.1 64 bit, and got the 64 bit installer for win pe and windows 8.1. but said the file was incompattible.so any one able to help. thanks.ps: need to install windows 8 or 8.1, do screen shots to show my trainers from http://www.upskilled.edu.au the list of steps to verify i did do this for my networking course. they use a tool called heropa from http://www.heropa.com. either not loding when i lgin into my school site, and when it did, was totally unuser friendly and totally screen reader unfriendly. a total mess. so any one able to help me out. if this topic is off topic and did read the guidelines for this forum. maybe e-mail me off list if need to take this off list. thanks.ps:: have tried googling and still cannot find it. also did try blog.bryansmart.com, but on all browsers, crhomechrome, firefox, edge, says network error, clean out my cache, and do a windows network diagnostic. but still cannot reach. so where do i contact bryan smart. thanks..   


moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

JM Casey
 

Hey.

Osara is being updated and distributed. ReAccess is loooong gone. And the latter ist he foundation for the Reaper course. That said, there is a pretty comprehensive wiki, and the mailing list can help if you have questions -- it's called 'Reapers without peepers" and is here on groups.io.

Audacity is maybe a little trickier than goldwave, but it's also a multitrack editor, which could be useful, depending on your needs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: August 10, 2020 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to edit audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular program for doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity is the most accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found that I could not edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a course for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and Reaaccess are not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.


moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

JM Casey
 

I'm not sure about the Goldwave one; I suspect it is ok because that programme and accessibility methods have not changed much, but the Reaper one is seriously out of date. The accessibility structure/plugin for Reaper is not even the same, now (Osara instead of ReAccess).

If you want to learn to use goldwave -- the manual is a great place to start. There are also some free resources you can use, plus a forum. Reaper has a mailing list on which many experts post.

You can contact me off list if you want -- Reaper's presented me with some serious challenges but I'm pretty conversant with Goldwave.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: August 10, 2020 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Hi Jasmine,
All of his courses are paid but certainly worth the money.
Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Jasmine, I have purchased many of Brian Hartgen's courses and I have found them to be excellent. He is, in my opinion, one of the finest trainers in this field.


On 8/10/2020 4:56 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
Thank you! It seems like it might be pretty cool. Are those courses free or paid? Just curious.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

The course can be found at hartgen.org in the training courses
section. It is called 24 carrot gold wave.

On 8/10/20, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com> wrote:
Where can this course be found? I’m also interested in the gold wave
program as well.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturner42@outlook.com>
wrote:


He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as
in blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's
scripts are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more
advanced scripts that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully
functional so you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to
edit audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular
program for doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity
is the most accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found
that I could not edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a
course for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and
Reaaccess are not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.



--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

www.davidgoldfield.org


moderated Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

Andrew Law
 

Did you ever think that your teacher was wrong, and that no one has ever corrected you. If you took the time to check a dictionary you would see that menue is not in it. Or are you right and the Oxford dictionary wrong?

I didn’t assume I was wrong because myself and those I asked have never heard of menu being spelt with an e on the end, I took the time to check a dictionary.

https://www.lexico.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&filter=en_dictionary&dictionary=en&query=menue

Why cant you just take a piece of humble pie and admit you were wrong this time?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2020 4:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Andrew:

 

I will continue to use the quality level grammar I was taught, and I will continue to spell words the way I was taught to spell them. If there are some of you on this list who have a problem with that, too bloody bad.

 

That is all I have to say.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrew Law

Sent: Sunday, 9 August, 2020 10:26 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

I have never seen menu spelt with an e on the end, and I am not American.

As far as I can see it is not in the dictionary. https://wikidiff.com/menue/menu

This might be a case of Berenstain vs berenstein bears.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2020 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

I do apologize and stand corrected, it is just that I noticed that my JAWS was pronouncing the word a bit strangely.  You are not the first to point out just how we Americans have bastardized the King’s English.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Dave Durber

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

I am from the United Kingdom. In the UK, we do have the letter "e" at the end of the word "menue". And, as far as I know, among the english speaking countries round the world, only the United States of North America and Canada, do not have the letter "e", at the end of the word "menue".

 

With all due respect, when you criticize others, for the way they use, speak and write their language, you should be very careful that others do not come back, and by demonstration, show how poorly you use, speak and write your language. Especially, if you are a citizen of the United States of North America, as a nation, you use, speak and write the poorest quality standard English in the world.

 

People in glass houses, should never throw stones.

 

You have really ticked me off. It is not very often that I show my annoyance but, you really have a nerve.

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, 8 August, 2020 10:27 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Further correction, there is no e at the end of Menu.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 2:41 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Thanks Dave, glad I caught your corrected steps before I created my note!  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Durber

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 12:02 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Mike:

 

On checking the text in my previous reply to you, I found a typo.

 

In addition, I changed some of the text, to ensure bettter accuracy.

 

thereforeI am reposting the message again, with the correction and amended text.

 

I have just discovered the following method:

 

Press INSERT+J, to open the JAWS "Context" Menue.

 

Press U, which opens the "utilities" submenue, and highlights the "Tandom" Submenue.

 

press t, which opens the "tandom" submenue, and highlights the "Tandom Centre" submenue.

 

Press C, which opens the "Tandom Centre" submenue

 

There are 2 options: "Allow Access to My Computer...", and "Get Access to a Computer...". by default, the "Allow Access to My Computer...", is highlighted

 

Press A, to open "Allow Access to My Computer...". JAWS will speak the text in the dialogue. The "Meeting ID" edit field, is highlhlighted; or

 

Press G to open, "Get Access to a Computer...". JAWS will speak the text in the dialogue. The "Get Access" button, is highlighted.

 

Press G, to open this option.  JAWS will speak the access code, which needs to be given to the other person.

 

The beauty of this method, is that, you do not need to move your fingers off the qwerty keyboard at all.

 

This is definitely going to be the method I will use in the Future.

 

Wich ever method we use, and others will have their way of achieving the same thing, in the end, it is whatever suits the individual.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, 8 August, 2020 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Thanks Dave, I was going to redo my steps for my notes purposes with the shortcut keystrokes, but I posted the long way so people could hear the options for themselves.  Now I can have both the long and shortcut methods as notes since you provided the shortcuts.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Durber

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Mike:

 

I have just discovered the following method:

 

Press INSERT+J, to open the JAWS "Context" Menue.

 

Press U, which opens the "utilities" submenue, and highlights the "Tandom" Submenue.

 

press t, which opens the "tandom" submenue, and highlights the "Tandom Centre" submenue.

 

Press C, which opens the "Tandom Centre" submenue, and highlights the "Allow Access to My Computer...". There are 2 choices:

 

Press A, to open this option. JAWS will speak the text in the dialogue. The highlight is on the "Meeting", edit field/ 9r

 

Press G, which opens the "Get Access to a Computer...", option. JAWS will speak some text in the dialogue, the highlight, is on,  the "Get Access", option.

 

Press G, to open this option.  JAWS will speak the access code, which needs to be given to the other person.

 

The beauty of this method, is that, you do not need to move your fingers off the qwerty keyboard at all

 

This is definitely going to be the method I will use in the Future.

 

Wich ever method we use, and others will have their way of achieving the same thing, in the end, it is whatever suits the individual.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, 8 August, 2020 12:54 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

There's not a shortcut command for getting the access code for accessing someone elses  computer.  Press, Insert + J, then press the letter, U, to open Utilities, then press enter on, submenu Jaws Tandem, press enter on submenu Tandem center, press enter on Get access to a computer ..., and now press enter on, Get access button, to get the access code.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 12:59 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

 

What would be the keyboard command using tandem to get access to a computer?

 

On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



The Tandem shortcut keystroke is, Insert, Alt + T, no control key.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Durber

Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Addison:

 

Just in case JAWS 2020 is not loading correctly, ask your friend, to unload JAWS, then, reload JAWS.

 

Remember, your friend may not be able to perform the INSERT+CTRL+ALT+T, JAWS command to go straight to the tandom window, where they need to enter the meeting ID code. In that case, following the steps in my previous email, might be a better way for your friend, to get to that window.

 

HTH

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, 7 August, 2020 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

 

Hi there 

That’s exactly  what I ha her to do this morning  and able to do tandem with her before I do tandemthere were a bells sound pop on windows

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 5:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

Addison:

It looks like the person who installed JAWS on her computer, set JAWS to be minimized to the Task Tray. When this is done, when someone presses ALT+TAB, to cycle through the open windows,  the JAWS window is not displayed.

Suggest to her that she do the following:

1. Press WINDOWS KEY+M, to go to the desktop.

2. If JAWS 2020 is the only version of JAWS installed on the machine, press the letter J, to highlight JAWS. If there is more than 1 version installed, keep pressing the letter J, until, JAWS 2020 is spoken.

3. press ENTER. The JAWS Context Window opens, and the first option in that window, is "options".

4. Tap the DOWN ARROW once, to highlight "Utilities".

5. tap the RIGHT ARROW 3 times, JAWS will say, "Allow access to my computer"...

6. Press ENTER. The meeting ID window is opened. After speaking some text, JAWS will say, "Meeting ID, edit". She needs to enter the meeting ID you give her, followed by pressing the ENTER key, to start the Tandom session.

HTH

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, 6 August, 2020 11:58 PM

Subject: Jaws2020 laptop window10 for a friend

Hello All

My friend name Cynthia  have laptop window10  computer and jaws2020 ,when I call her this afternoon  she wanted me to do jaws tandem on her laptop  but there is a problem  when I ask her to press insert key + j for Jaws  I don’t hear it’s jaws at all so I ask her to press alt + tab til she hear it’s say jaws on the window so nothing at all too. So she doesn’t remember who installed jaws2020  on her laptop and programs her computer too. So I told her there is no way I can do jaws tandem if she doesn’t have jaws window screen on her laptop !! What does she need to do to get jaws windows to be activate on window screen to say jaws ??  Does anyone have any idea on other way I can do jaws tandem on her laptop ?

Addison

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moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

Hi Jasmine,
All of his courses are paid but certainly worth the money.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Jasmine, I have purchased many of Brian Hartgen's courses and I have found them to be excellent. He is, in my opinion, one of the finest trainers in this field.


On 8/10/2020 4:56 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
Thank you! It seems like it might be pretty cool. Are those courses free or paid? Just curious.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

The course can be found at hartgen.org in the training courses
section. It is called 24 carrot gold wave.

On 8/10/20, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com> wrote:
Where can this course be found? I’m also interested in the gold wave
program as well.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturner42@outlook.com>
wrote:


He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as
in blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's
scripts are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more
advanced scripts that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully
functional so you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to
edit audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular
program for doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity
is the most accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found
that I could not edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a
course for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and
Reaaccess are not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.



--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

www.davidgoldfield.org


moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Jasmine, I have purchased many of Brian Hartgen's courses and I have found them to be excellent. He is, in my opinion, one of the finest trainers in this field.

On 8/10/2020 4:56 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:
Thank you! It seems like it might be pretty cool. Are those courses free or paid? Just curious.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

The course can be found at hartgen.org in the training courses
section. It is called 24 carrot gold wave.

On 8/10/20, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com> wrote:
Where can this course be found? I’m also interested in the gold wave program
as well.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com>
wrote:


He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as in
blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's scripts
are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more advanced scripts
that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully functional so
you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to edit
audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular program for
doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity is the most
accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found that I could not
edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a course
for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and Reaaccess are
not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.



--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

www.davidgoldfield.org


moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello.

Brian Hartgen's Gold Wave course is excellent and, as Richard said, he has written his own Gold Wave scripts.

On 8/10/2020 4:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I've not taken Brian's course, but my friend said his scripts come with the course.
Doug Lee's scripts at least give you a few shortcuts for checking where you are in a file, the length of the file, etc.
While the GoldWave manual is very involved, it is well worth reading the sections on what you are interested in accomplishing.
A couple helpful keystrokes are pressing left bracket drops a start marker, pressing rHello.
ight bracket drops a finish marker.
Control C cuts that piece out, or control t trims off the stuff before and after the markers.
Control p pastes the clipboard into a new file.

HTH,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Hello Richard,
Thank you for your reply. I see that Doug Lee has scripts for Gold wave. Should these be downloaded or are there scripts from Brian that come with his course?

On 8/10/20, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as in
blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's
scripts are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more
advanced scripts that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully functional
so you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to edit
audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular program for
doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity is the most
accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found that I could not
edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a course
for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and Reaaccess are
not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.








--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

www.davidgoldfield.org


moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Richard Turner
 

Paid.
The web site will give the details.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Thank you! It seems like it might be pretty cool. Are those courses free or paid? Just curious.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

The course can be found at hartgen.org in the training courses
section. It is called 24 carrot gold wave.

On 8/10/20, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com> wrote:
Where can this course be found? I’m also interested in the gold wave
program as well.

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturner42@outlook.com>
wrote:


He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as
in blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's
scripts are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more
advanced scripts that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully
functional so you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to
edit audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular
program for doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity
is the most accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found
that I could not edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a
course for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and
Reaaccess are not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.






moderated Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Richard Turner
 

I've not taken Brian's course, but my friend said his scripts come with the course.
Doug Lee's scripts at least give you a few shortcuts for checking where you are in a file, the length of the file, etc.
While the GoldWave manual is very involved, it is well worth reading the sections on what you are interested in accomplishing.
A couple helpful keystrokes are pressing left bracket drops a start marker, pressing right bracket drops a finish marker.
Control C cuts that piece out, or control t trims off the stuff before and after the markers.
Control p pastes the clipboard into a new file.

HTH,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Course or guide for audio editing recordings JAWS2020

Hello Richard,
Thank you for your reply. I see that Doug Lee has scripts for Gold wave. Should these be downloaded or are there scripts from Brian that come with his course?

On 8/10/20, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
He also has a course on Goldwave which in my opinion is the most
accessible audio editor, unless you need to do multitrack files, as in
blending separate channels, etc.
But for straight editing, it is all keyboard based and Doug lee's
scripts are enough to get you going, but I believe Brian has more
advanced scripts that come along with the course.
GoldWave is $50 to purchase, but the trial version is fully functional
so you can be sure it works for you before buying a license.
He is also working on an iOS app which will be able to use the same
license.
A friend took his course on Goldwave and speaks highly of it.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Shai <shaiwol@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I am looking for a course or guide of some kind for being able to edit
audio recordings with JAWS2020. I don't have a particular program for
doing this in mind yet, but I have heard that audacity is the most
accessible. I did try to follow the guide but I found that I could not
edit with it and it was overwhelming for me.
I did some research online and I see that Brian Hartgen has a course
for Reaper but it seems that the packages for Osara and Reaaccess are
not being distributed any longer.
Does anyone know of a course or guide of some kind that can be followed?
Thank you in advance.






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