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Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
Glenn / Lenny
I agree, I only use Microsoft's Defender, and I must say that it was long
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over-due, Microsoft should have been protecting their system from the start. I think that they were getting into trouble with anti-trust suits like with it's Internet Explorer and other such programs that seemed to keep the competition out, so MS was reluctant to make its own anti-virus program for fear that they were again killing off competition. Glenn
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From: "Dan Longmore" <danlongmore44@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS Hi, While I appreciate your feelings , the most recent Freedom Scientific podcast stated that Windows Defender is very effective and the most effective anti virus for most users. And Eric from Vespero said this assumes that you are not "doing something stupid" while surfing the net. I have used Windows Defender and has done just fine. Now, nothing against other anti virus programs but let's not trash Defender just based on personal experiences or preferences. Dan PS Many days I have your same feelings toward JAWS. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Emre Rencber Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS Windows defender is not effective. A completely fiasco software. We know that the first virus in computer history was written by Bill Gates. So why do we trust Microsoft so much? Kaspersky says there is no such thing. They even say we can show our source code. Despite this, I do not go and use an antivirus that does nothing. Kaspersky also has a free antivirus. 2020-03-04 16:19 GMT+03:00, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>:
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Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
Dan Longmore
Hi,
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While I appreciate your feelings , the most recent Freedom Scientific podcast stated that Windows Defender is very effective and the most effective anti virus for most users. And Eric from Vespero said this assumes that you are not "doing something stupid" while surfing the net. I have used Windows Defender and has done just fine. Now, nothing against other anti virus programs but let's not trash Defender just based on personal experiences or preferences. Dan PS Many days I have your same feelings toward JAWS.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Emre Rencber Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS Windows defender is not effective. A completely fiasco software. We know that the first virus in computer history was written by Bill Gates. So why do we trust Microsoft so much? Kaspersky says there is no such thing. They even say we can show our source code. Despite this, I do not go and use an antivirus that does nothing. Kaspersky also has a free antivirus. 2020-03-04 16:19 GMT+03:00, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>:
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
David Kingsbury
Hello,
You can use the layered keystroke Insert and Spacebar together, and then F11. THis is a toggle, so same keystrokes to turn it off. It is temporary, so if you restart your computer, screen shade will be off again. David
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Re: classic shell
dennis
thanks dave.
On 3/5/2020 10:31 AM, David Griffith
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Re: classic shell
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Hi friend! I do not recommend Classic shell anymore. It broken my friend’s system once and I have said a big “thank you” to this prtogram. When I am configuring PCs for beginners I use Start Is Back. The program is symbolically paid but its worth it if someone is a fan of W7 start menu
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: classic shell
That and other accessible programs are available from.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
anyone know where i can download classic shell? thanks for any help. --
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Re: classic shell
David Griffith
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
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anyone know where i can download classic shell? thanks for any help. --
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classic shell
dennis
anyone know where i can download
classic shell? thanks for any help. --
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Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I just deleted the dir and it worked. I just like having everything in great order. Thanks!
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 3:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts
My answer is it probably won't cause problems, but you can email Jim and ask. Alternatively, they shouldn't take up much space, so it wouldn't be a problem to leave them there. Matthew
Hi, I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I just needed THAT! Its name is autostart. Thanks 😊
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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I would try sticking it in the auto start function, this way, it should start when JAWS is started, either automatically or manually.
-------- Original Message -------- From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2020, 6:04 AM Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade, so I just need to call it when JFW starts.
Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help:
Wants Jaws script is loaded Confirm jaws has started Enable required functionality
Thanks,abraham
On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@... <mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:
I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup
Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
I do not think this is possible.
You may need to write a script to add that functionality.
Thanks,abraham
On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@... <mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:
I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.
Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.
Later,
Richard
"There's a nap for that."
On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@... <mailto:mb69mach1@...>> wrote:
Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls! LOL LOL
I'll try to put in more simpley:
The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings.
The layered keystroke feature is when you hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task. In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:
Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.
With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.
Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:
BTW, whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.
So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.
Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.
Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked. Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.
If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.
If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!
Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak! LOL LOL
Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
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*From:*Adrian Spratt <mailto:adrian@...>
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM
*Subject:*Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jessica D *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Hi,
Can you please retype your response in English?
I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response.
Thanks,
Jessica
On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@... <mailto:mb69mach1@...>> wrote:
Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.
Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:
To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.
Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time. Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.
Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers!
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*From:*Arkadiusz Świętnicki <mailto:nuno69a@...>
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM
*Subject:*Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Hi,
I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..
I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.
Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Mario
I would try sticking it in the auto start function, this way, it should start when JAWS is started, either automatically or manually.
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From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@gmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2020, 6:04 AM Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade, so I just need to call it when JFW starts. Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help: Wants Jaws script is loaded Confirm jaws has started Enable required functionality Thanks,abraham On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@gmail.com <mailto:nuno69a@gmail.com>> wrote: I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws I do not think this is possible. You may need to write a script to add that functionality. Thanks,abraham On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@gmail.com <mailto:nuno69a@gmail.com>> wrote: I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up. Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11. Later, Richard "There's a nap for that." On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com <mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com>> wrote: Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls! LOL LOL I'll try to put in more simpley: The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. The layered keystroke feature is when you hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task. In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below: Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button. With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off. Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings: BTW, whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings. So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings. Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open. Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked. Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off. If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings. If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?! Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- *From:*Adrian Spratt <mailto:adrian@adrianspratt.com> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM *Subject:*Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jessica D *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws Hi, Can you please retype your response in English? I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. Thanks, Jessica On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com <mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com>> wrote: Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key. Or to do it in Jaws quick settings: To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout. Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time. Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close. Take care. Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- *From:*Arkadiusz Świętnicki <mailto:nuno69a@gmail.com> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM *Subject:*Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws Hi, I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time.. I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it. Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts
Matthew Bullis
My answer is it probably won't cause problems, but you can email Jim and ask. snowman@... Alternatively, they shouldn't take up much space, so it wouldn't be a problem to leave them there. Matthew On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote: Hi, I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Gmail Jonas
I do not see why not!
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Will his OCR works then?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
I want you to turn off the monitor Will save on electric as well
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Will his OCR works then?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 12:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
I want you to turn off the monitor Will save on electric as well
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Gmail Jonas
I want you to turn off the monitor Will save on electric as well
On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
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Safe removal of Snowman scripts
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Hi, I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade, so I just need to call it when JFW starts.
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help:
Thanks,abraham
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Abraham Sweiss
I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help:
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Wants Jaws script is loaded Confirm jaws has started Enable required functionality Thanks,abraham
On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
I do not think this is possible.
Thanks,abraham
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Abraham Sweiss
I do not think this is possible. You may need to write a script to add that functionality. Thanks,abraham
On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
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Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.
Pozdrawiam, Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11. Later,
Richard "There's a nap for that."
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