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moderated Re: how to drag and drop on websites?

Brent Harding
 


Hmmm, I don't have one of the new compputers with touch screens built in. I wonder if I could fill it out on my iPhone, as Apple seems to have a pretty good interface for this? In my case, I need to reorder a list of about 16 things this way.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: how to drag and drop on websites?

Hi,
I had to drag a button, and I used my touch-screen. 

Thanks,
Jessica



On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Brent Harding <brent@...> wrote:


Hi there! I am wondering, how one can deal with drag and drop stuff on the web when using Jaws? For instance, with this one thing I was trying to deal with, it asks you to drag a list of things in order from most important to least important. I tried the lock mouse button command to try to do it, but then the arrow keys won't read where I'm moving to. Is there any way around this kind of thing besides getting someone to do it for me?
Thanks
 
moderated Re: how to drag and drop on websites?

Jessica D
 

Hi,
I had to drag a button, and I used my touch-screen. 

Thanks,
Jessica



On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Brent Harding <brent@...> wrote:


Hi there! I am wondering, how one can deal with drag and drop stuff on the web when using Jaws? For instance, with this one thing I was trying to deal with, it asks you to drag a list of things in order from most important to least important. I tried the lock mouse button command to try to do it, but then the arrow keys won't read where I'm moving to. Is there any way around this kind of thing besides getting someone to do it for me?
Thanks
 
moderated how to drag and drop on websites?

Brent Harding
 

Hi there! I am wondering, how one can deal with drag and drop stuff on the web when using Jaws? For instance, with this one thing I was trying to deal with, it asks you to drag a list of things in order from most important to least important. I tried the lock mouse button command to try to do it, but then the arrow keys won't read where I'm moving to. Is there any way around this kind of thing besides getting someone to do it for me?
Thanks
 
moderated Re: convert webpage containing several tables into 1 excel spreadsheet?

Richard Turner
 

That is a bit more involved than what could be handled easily via Email.
What is the web page?
I'll see if I can help with this.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

I know this isn’t directly related to jaws, but I’m using jaws 2020.

 

I’d like an efficient way to learn the commands for the Focus line of braille displays, since those items are covered on the certification exam.

 

I found a page that contains several tables of these commands, and would like to get all this data into a spreadsheet.

 

Does anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 
moderated convert webpage containing several tables into 1 excel spreadsheet?

Jessica D
 

Hi,

I know this isn’t directly related to jaws, but I’m using jaws 2020.

 

I’d like an efficient way to learn the commands for the Focus line of braille displays, since those items are covered on the certification exam.

 

I found a page that contains several tables of these commands, and would like to get all this data into a spreadsheet.

 

Does anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 
moderated Re: reclassing list views in jaws?

Mike B
 


Just to point out that there are 2 Miscellaneous folders in the Settings Center.  1 is a sub-folder of, Web / HTML / PDFs, but the 2nd Miscellaneous folder is the 2nd from the bottom of the folder list, and this is where the MSAA option is located.  This is an application specific setting only.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: reclassing list views in jaws?

One other option before you look at scripting:
In the JAWS settings center, there is an option to force JAWS to use MSAA to interpret list views. I believe this is in the misc. section. So there is a slight possibility that if you toggle this for your application it will perform better.

moderated Re: reclassing list views in jaws?

Cohn, Jonathan
 

One other option before you look at scripting:
In the JAWS settings center, there is an option to force JAWS to use MSAA to interpret list views. I believe this is in the misc. section. So there is a slight possibility that if you toggle this for your application it will perform better.
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Jason White
 

I once experienced this on a Windows 7 system. According to Freedom Scientific support, it was probably due to group policy settings (the machine was part of an Active Directory domain).

 

The solution was to copy the desktop shortcut for JAWS to shell:startup (which is where the user’s startup programs reside).

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 27, 2020 at 07:46
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

I’m glad you don’t have a problem on your system, but do realize that every system is a little different and on some systems this is an issue which Freedom Scientific is aware of.
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Dan Longmore
 

I’m glad you don’t have a problem on your system, but do realize that every system is a little different and on some systems this is an issue which Freedom Scientific is aware of.
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Sending this to the list as well as you directly, but your message below did make it to the list just fine.

Keep in mind that not every question generates answers especially if it’s one where nobody knows the answer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anna Givens
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hey not sure my message will make it to the list...

I am wondering why anytime I send a question or something to this list it is not approved and never makes it to the list.

Hoping somebody sees this and can explain.

 

Thanks

Anna



On Jan 26, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:



Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: i messed up my braille display

Stephen Bennett
 

Hi mike

 

If you stil need to remove the display from Jaws, you'll need to go into the Add Braille Display  dialog. Then find your device in the list and uncheck it. Then follow the prompts to finish the removal.

 

SB

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i messed up my braille display

 

Hey guys:

 

Somehow,

Jaws says the active display is no display, but,

The default combo box says that pm display is default;

How do I reset the active display so it says pmdisplay and then sees it?

Right now, jaws thinks that there is no braille display;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Anna Givens
 

Hey not sure my message will make it to the list...
I am wondering why anytime I send a question or something to this list it is not approved and never makes it to the list.
Hoping somebody sees this and can explain.

Thanks
Anna

On Jan 26, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:



Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Sieghard Weitzel
 

I use Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit and I have 4 PC’s at my business and a laptop at home and Jaws starts both at the login screen and after logon 100% of the time on all systems.

Have you checked that Jaws is turned on in Windows Settings (Windows Key + I) > Apps > Startup?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: Trying to create a scheme to play a sound when web page loads JAWS2020

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I know that a JAWS script can be written to do this because Brian Hartgen's Leasey program has this option. When Leasey is set to deliver its prompts in sounds mode a pleasant chime sound is heard as soon as a Web page loads. I have it set to do this and I really like the feature.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/26/2020 8:28 AM, Jay wrote:

I too am curious if this can be done. It would be awesome if it could be. If anyone has the knowledge of how this can be done, please respond. Thanks in advance. 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trying to create a scheme to play a sound when web page loads JAWS2020

Hello,
I am using JAWS2020 and I am trying to create a scheme to play a sound when a web page loads using the Chrome web browser.
I tried going into the speech and sounds scheme manager and also reading up on this but I cannot find a means to do this.
Can anyone assist?
Thank you in advance for any responses.

moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Yes, I had the same problem with JAWS 2019.  Both at log on and after getting to desktop.  In both instances I used the JAWS hot keys to force a start.  All my JAWS settings were correct and the Application file for JAWS was enabled on the start up menu. Freedom Scientific   said they were aware of some users having this issue.  I do not know if this occurs with 2020.  I took out my password at log on and after starting the computer JAWS starts all the time at my desktop.  So I don’t know if issue still exists with 2020 and I realize that most people need a log on password protected system.  I work from my home and so for me not necessary.

Mainly I want you to know that the issue is not just with you or your system.  I would report to Freedom and or Microsoft Disability Desk for any possible answers or trouble shoot.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: Trying to create a scheme to play a sound when web page loads JAWS2020

Leo
 

I can't figure out how that could be done! but probably this can be done by one of those extensions that play sounds for different things.., you should try them out.


Best,
   Leo
On 1/26/2020 7:28 AM, Jay wrote:

I too am curious if this can be done. It would be awesome if it could be. If anyone has the knowledge of how this can be done, please respond. Thanks in advance.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trying to create a scheme to play a sound when web page loads JAWS2020

Hello,
I am using JAWS2020 and I am trying to create a scheme to play a sound when a web page loads using the Chrome web browser.
I tried going into the speech and sounds scheme manager and also reading up on this but I cannot find a means to do this.
Can anyone assist?
Thank you in advance for any responses.

moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Joe
 

Hi Richard,

I have this problem as well running Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 Pro the in the latest version of the operating system.  I had been using only Jaws at start but when I use Zoom Text  as well Jaws started  after signing in.  This makes me think there is a problem at start up and the additional time required to start Zoom Text or Fusion allows for Jaws to start up properly. 

 

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: JAWS won't start after sign-in

Sieghard Weitzel
 

Check in Settings > Apps > Startup if “Application File for Jaws” is turned on.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 9:17 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS won't start after sign-in

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated JAWS won't start after sign-in

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, all updated.  After signing-in, JAWS does not start.  My laptop has two user accounts: Admin and Visitor.  Both are password protected.  I have set JAWS to always start at the logon screen (a.k.a., sign-in screen), and it does.  But, after sign-in JAWS does not start.  This is despite having both the Admin and Visitor accounts set to “always” start after login.

 

I have fiddled with this a lot but I cannot get it to work.  “Fast startup” is off.  I have tried many different settings under the JAWS Options > Basics > Automatically Start JAWS Settings screen, but nothing works.

 

Does anyone else have this problem?  Has anyone solved this?

 

Thanks,

Richard
moderated Re: no context menu key

Jason White
 

With a Focus braille display, it’s dots 1-7-8 chord, j to simulate the Shift+F10.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: no context menu key

 

Not that it hasn't already been mentioned, but SHIFT+F10 is the standard Windows 2-key combination for the context menu.  Keyboards with the menu key/applications key came along much later in the hardware evolution.

See:  

Keyboard shortcuts in Windows - Windows Help

If you happen to want to search for a specific keyboard shortcut, it's generally easier if you activate the "Show All" link near the top of the page to expose all of them at once.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

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