Hi,

I wish there were more groups about JFW.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jschliff@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

I agree, I am on the verge of leaving this group because there are instances where the group loses focus on its real purpose, Jaws and it’s solutions to provide all of us with real meaningful use of our computers.  I am too busy to follow the nonsense!

 

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here
in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs
and its ties to the hostle Russian government. This Moscow-based company
has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as
the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although
Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission
is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I
personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security
is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.


Gerald



On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political
comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from
around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our
Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gerald
Levy via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are
based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may
even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the
outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even
have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these
allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows
Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both
JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings.
I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a
JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a
detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with
Kaspersky.

<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When
using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS
being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with
tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working
after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a
Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without
uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I
honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and,
as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in
the main window. If you access the program from the system tray
choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more
accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve
for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about
scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but
it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS
user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound
design and other things. I have came here to discuss this
great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to
the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this
software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty
wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK,
however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to
work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use
the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s
interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use
it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from
Poland,
primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have
came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and
help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for
the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is
essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing
screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and
Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have
to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS's interface seems to
be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I'm pretty new to JFW, I use it for less
than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are
based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even
be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of
the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close
ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are
true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and
totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?


Gerald



On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS
as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't
say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific
list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review
which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky.
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When

using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being
able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or
shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while.
I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update
but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an
earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key
reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary
when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the
system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more
accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for
many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am
willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a
while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from
Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other
things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you,
ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software
and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible..
The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its
problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the
PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the
software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface
seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for
less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Well, I've been using office 365 for a couple of years, and I just updated to the latest yesterday.  The only time I've ever had your problem is when my scroll lock got turned on.  If that isn't your problem, you should call fs tech support so they can figure out what it is.

It sorta worked, it only read me one cell though, when I arrow through it doesn’t read anything else. Any other suggestions?

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

 

Check your scroll lock key, that'll do it every time.  Make sure it is off and then relaunch excel.

 

 

 

On 3/3/2020 18:07, Rayn Darren wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today, Excel stopped reading cells to me entirely. I’m able to use commands such as find, but it wont read anything in the cells once whatever I’m finding is actually found. Any ideas what’s going on?  I’m only having this problem in Excel btw, Word and Outlook work just fine and I don’t use any of the other products in the suite to test them out.

 

TIA,

Sarah

When I press arrow it takes considerably longer to speak the message,.

Yeah; NVDA’s eSpeak module is inb-uilt and doesn’t requrie SAPI so I guess that is definitely source of your problem.

I wonder  if it is possible to edit some settings within windows itself to make it work better. When you say it is unresponsive – you are not talking about long pauses during speech itself right, but rather with delays to actuallys tart speaking?

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Since the caps lock functions as the jaws key in laptop layout you have to hit caps lock twice to envoke the caps lock then twice more to turn it off.

Yeah; NVDA’s eSpeak module is inb-uilt and doesn’t requrie SAPI so I guess that is definitely source of your problem.

I wonder  if it is possible to edit some settings within windows itself to make it work better. When you say it is unresponsive – you are not talking about long pauses during speech itself right, but rather with delays to actuallys tart speaking?

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

----- Original Message -----

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:52 PM

Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

Yes, the capslock is toggled, but no speech prompt is given.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

has he tried pressing the caps lock key twice quickly? that should do it.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/4/20 01:52 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki said:
----------------------------------------

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot

use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS

key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno

----------------------------------------

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Hi friends!
Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot
use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS
key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno