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moderated Re: Publix new swebsite and JAWS 2018

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks for responding. I am trying to use the Publix site, not delivery or pickup. JAWS tells me “buttons”, but not what they are for. I have tried IE and Firefox.

 

Shirley


moderated Re: Guide for the Taskbar on Windows 10, May 2019 update

Ann Byrne
 

Thanks a ton, David. Your guides are always so helpful.

Ann

At 08:26 AM 9/12/2019, you wrote:
I've updated my Jaws guide to the taskbar to cover the May 2019 update - version 1903.
As before, it covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar button, the notification area, and notifications. It's available at:
<http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html>http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html

For those using Windows 10 before this update, the previous version of the guide is still available at:
<http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-1809-Guide.html>http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-1809-Guide.html

David.



The <http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html>Jaws guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 has been updated to cover the October 2018 update. As before, it covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications.

For those using Windows 10 before this update, the previous version of the guide is still available: <http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-1803-Guide.html>Jaws guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 version 1803.


moderated Re: Publix new swebsite and JAWS 2018

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Are you using the Publix site or arranging for pickup or delivery using InstaCart?  I did a quick search on publix.com and was able to read the search results.  In order to use online shopping of any form, pickup or delivery, you end up using the Instacart site. I didn’t test that, though I understand it is accessible. I’m using JAWS 2019 and Chrome. The usual suggestions are, try with a different browser and a different screen reader and see if you get different results.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Publix new swebsite and JAWS 2018

 

Hi listers,

 

Have any of you tried using the new publix website? I can’t read the products, only the buttons. I go down the list and hear “button; button; add to list.” Is it my version of JAWS? Is it something I’m failing to do to read? They claim their new site is accessible, but when I phoned in to ask for help, they put me on hold for a very long time and I can’t believe their tec people will know what to do anyway, so I hung up. Frustrating!

 

Thanks for any feedback on this.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Publix new swebsite and JAWS 2018

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi listers,

 

Have any of you tried using the new publix website? I can’t read the products, only the buttons. I go down the list and hear “button; button; add to list.” Is it my version of JAWS? Is it something I’m failing to do to read? They claim their new site is accessible, but when I phoned in to ask for help, they put me on hold for a very long time and I can’t believe their tec people will know what to do anyway, so I hung up. Frustrating!

 

Thanks for any feedback on this.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Guide for the Taskbar on Windows 10, May 2019 update

David Bailes
 

I've updated my Jaws guide to the taskbar to cover the May 2019 update - version 1903.
As before, it covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar button, the notification area, and notifications. It's available at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html

For those using Windows 10 before this update, the previous version of the guide is still available at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-1809-Guide.html

David.



The Jaws guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 has been updated to cover the October 2018 update. As before, it covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications.

For those using Windows 10 before this update, the previous version of the guide is still available: Jaws guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 version 1803.


moderated Re: also requesting help/direction for purchaseRE: Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’d like to apologize to the list. I did not intend for people’s efforts to purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide to generate list traffic. I will not mention the book on the list in the foreseeable future.  However it gives me a chance to talk about an annoyance I’ve been having that I suppose I should report, and which is in no way limited to my page.

 

I see one reason why people could have problems. I have seen this in various places. Using semi-auto forms mode, on a page with a search box or other edit fiend at the top, if I arrow down through that field, when I exit the edit field, I am summarily dropped to the bottom of the page. This does not happen on the same pages when arrowing in and out of the edit field with NVDA. It probably would also not happen if using manual forms mode.

 

The solution, on this and other pages, is not to arrow, even though it seems to me that one ought to be able to do so.  The best thing to do on my page is to press E for edit fields, followed by B for button when you find the one you want.  Pressing tab also avoids the problem.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Ballantyne
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: also requesting help/direction for purchaseRE: Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

 

Dear Dean and group members

I also tried to go to the URL offered. Reading the descriptions was find but the products link was not able to be found.

 

Kindly direct how one in Canada might arrange for the purchase.

 

With thanks.

Sharon Ballantyne

Sharon.ballantyne@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

 

Hi Dean,

Sorry to write on list, but could not find your private address. I can’t figure out how to buy both the Word and the spoken books from the product page and I want to purchase both. My private email is terrieter@...

Thanks for any help you can give regarding how to purchase.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Keyboard Power User Guide book available

 

I want to announce the release of Windows Keyboard Power User Guide, available in both interactive MP3 and Word formats, starting at $15.

 

You can learn about it at

https://techforblind.us.

 

Dean

 


moderated also requesting help/direction for purchaseRE: Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

Sharon Ballantyne
 

Dear Dean and group members

I also tried to go to the URL offered. Reading the descriptions was find but the products link was not able to be found.

 

Kindly direct how one in Canada might arrange for the purchase.

 

With thanks.

Sharon Ballantyne

Sharon.ballantyne@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

 

Hi Dean,

Sorry to write on list, but could not find your private address. I can’t figure out how to buy both the Word and the spoken books from the product page and I want to purchase both. My private email is terrieter@...

Thanks for any help you can give regarding how to purchase.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Keyboard Power User Guide book available

 

I want to announce the release of Windows Keyboard Power User Guide, available in both interactive MP3 and Word formats, starting at $15.

 

You can learn about it at

https://techforblind.us.

 

Dean

 


moderated windows server software and jaws

Marvin Hunkin <startrekvoyager@...>
 

Hi. Interested in stretching the brain and interested in doing certificate iv networking from http://www.upskilled.edu.au. I know vmware work station and vm player works with jaws. They will be using windows server 2012 or later. So what accessible server software is out there that works with jaws, nvda, windows narrator.

Any one used this software.

Just want a heads up.

Thanks.

 


moderated Re: Creating forms

 

One can create perfectly accessible forms with Microsoft Word, but it seems virtually no one knows how to do it.

Here's a very simple one I created several years ago for someone working at a local school.  She needed to be able to fill out what they call "bus notes" that allowed a student to vary from the normal routine.

Every checkbox and form field is announced as you tab through the document that is created by using this form template as its basis.  Having it selected and hitting enter should open Word with "Document 1" having been created, which is an un-filled-out bus note.

Sample Bus Note Form Document Template (dotx)

There are many fillable PDF forms that are accessible, and others that are not because adequate labeling of the various checkboxes, edit boxes, radio buttons has not been done.  I don't have the software to create fillable PDF forms, though.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer


moderated Re: Using calculator

Gezim Rexha
 

That is exactly all what I needed, thanks so much.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


moderated Creating forms

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi fellow Listerrs,

 

Has anyone had any success with accessible form creation software. I was sent a form from the government. They claim that it is accessible to screen readers, but that is not actually factual. It is as accessible as Donald Trumps tax records. If anyone can help in this matter, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thx,


moderated Need Dean's Help to Purchase Windows Keyboard Power User Guide

Terrie Terlau
 

Hi Dean,

Sorry to write on list, but could not find your private address. I can’t figure out how to buy both the Word and the spoken books from the product page and I want to purchase both. My private email is terrieter@...

Thanks for any help you can give regarding how to purchase.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:27 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows Keyboard Power User Guide book available

 

I want to announce the release of Windows Keyboard Power User Guide, available in both interactive MP3 and Word formats, starting at $15.

 

You can learn about it at

https://techforblind.us.

 

Dean

 


moderated Re: Using calculator

JM Casey
 

In the Windows 10 calculator at least, there are loads of different modes and converters – it is pretty neat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: September 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

It can also be switched to scientific functionality.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Barbara

Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:40 AM

Subject: Re: Using calculator

 

Hi

 

I am assuming you are referring to the Windows calculator.  If not, disregard my message.

 

Once the calculator is open and you want to enter your numbers, I usually use the numbers above the letters, but I would assume you could use the num pad.  Anyhow the Plus is the plus on the top row.  The minus is the dash on the top row.  Multiply is the * above the 8 and divide is the forward slash at the bottom row.  Delete clears the field.  Enter acts as the equals.  You can perform with multiple numbers like 1 + 3+8 etc.  anytime you want to know what is the field information use the JAWS read current line hot key.

 

This works for both Windows 7 and 10.

 

I have never tried to go in more depth than this, so there could be more.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using calculator

 

Hi list,

 

I would appreciate if you could give me some basic instructions how to use calculator. I am using JAWS 2018 latest version.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 


moderated Re: links on web pages

Rick Mladek
 

Thanks John, I did not catch that... hmmmmm,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Rick,
I believe in his initial post he said he could not share the web site.

Regards,



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?

On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

fenderwal@...
 

Hey, Mario and Dean.
 
Yes, I had changed the links quick key to l. What I omitted to add in my first post is that when l is set to move to next list--the quick key default, nothing weird happens. Thanks for the link to the power user info, Dean. I could use the workout! Lol!
 
Thanks, guys,
Lou



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS find.

Unless you have changed things in the Quick Key Manager, L takes you to the next list, not link.  U takes you to the next unvisited link, and you can edit the list in the Quick Key Manager to allow for a keystroke to activate Any Link, which is not active by default.  All that is discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide available from https://www.techforblind.us.  When forms mode is active, those letters are written into the form, they cannot serve as navigation quick keys then.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS find.

 

Hi, everybody.

 

Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?

 

JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.

 

I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.

Lou N.


moderated Re: links on web pages

Don H
 

can not share web page as it is behind password.

On 9/11/2019 11:28 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:
Share this website with us, perhaps there is a problem from the other side. If you use insert +F7 and find the link you want, simply hit enter and it should activate. Otherwise, it surely could be an accessibility issue as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages
OK I used insert key F7 to get a links list and went to activate link and still nothing happens.
When I have sighted help use a physical mouse to click on the link a list of options opens more like a combo box. Any ideas as how to get to it with Jaws?
On 9/11/2019 10:51 AM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?







moderated Re: links on web pages

Marty Hutchings
 

Try a different browser.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?


moderated Re: links on web pages

Mario
 

after arrowing to a link, press tab to the activate button and press
spacebar, or since the activate button is the first action, simply press
enter after arrowing to the link.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jschliff@...
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 12:01 PM
Subject: links on web pages
Bill,

I am not sure what you mean by tap the link to activate the link!

Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Try JAWS Key plus F7 to open the links list.
Then find the link you wish to open in the links list, and TAB to
Activate Link.
Once you reach Activate Link, try using Space Bar or ENTER.


Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: links on web pages

Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links that
will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key. Hitting enter
on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I can not share
for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?















.


moderated Re: links on web pages

mike mcglashon
 

Hey guys:
I have experienced this phenomenon in law school with some websites;
The thing seems to be that the websites were designed in such a way that they do not expect nor allow keyboard input,
They are only looking for mouse clicks
I know this because I had sighted person use keyboard with no jaws on it, and still no dice with keyboard interaction;
But yet the mouse worked just fine.


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon@...
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: links on web pages

Couple things,
Try listing links and form fields, with F7 and if that does not work, use F5.
If neither of those work, try pass-key-through with Insert + #3 (above the E key).
After this is pressed, you can try space bar or enter.
You only get one pass-through with each action.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: links on web pages


Running Win 10 1903 and latest Jaws. I am coming up against links
that will not open with the use of the space bar or enter key.
Hitting enter on the link does nothing. This is on a web page that I
can not share for you to try. Is there another way to activate a link using Jaws?





moderated Re: Question about JAWS find.

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Unless you have changed things in the Quick Key Manager, L takes you to the next list, not link.  U takes you to the next unvisited link, and you can edit the list in the Quick Key Manager to allow for a keystroke to activate Any Link, which is not active by default.  All that is discussed in Windows Keyboard Power User Guide available from https://www.techforblind.us.  When forms mode is active, those letters are written into the form, they cannot serve as navigation quick keys then.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of fenderwal@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS find.

 

Hi, everybody.

 

Does anybody know if JAWS is in forms mode when the JAWS find feature is used?

 

JAWS sort of stumbles over edit boxes and other controls when the Tab key is the links hot key, so I tried using the l and shift+l keys for move to next and prior links, with weird results. Rather than allowing the l key to be used to type the l character, JAWS focus jumped out of the search edit box to who knows where, because nothing in the find dialog uses the l as a shortcut. Odder still is that when the l key default was in place, there was no problem.

 

I'd appreciate any insights. Still trying to figure out what's under the hood, so to speak.

Lou N.