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moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Randy Barnett
 

Hi, if this doesn’t work you can also try running Josh 17 or 16 I found that a lot of times they’ll still work on their windows 10 with the older programs were the newer jaws versions don’t see anything.

Randy Barnett owner of soundtique

On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:33 AM, l. radical <ksteo2009@...> wrote:

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days
ago i upgrade to windows 10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How
ever when i load the same programm in the new operating system the
jaws does not read any content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I
am able to read only the top and the bottom of the window. Any
recomentation for a solution is wellcome and thanks for any
assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Mike B
 


Hi All,
 
This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018.  Not to create an argument, but only to save people using Jaws versions older than J2018 time or the hassle of searching for this feature in J18, J17... 
 
Steps for creating a toggle keystroke for this feature are below.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following:
1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter.  The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is,
Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off.  Only type the keystroke, example:  Alt,
Control + K.  Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default.  Tab to, Okay
and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. 
Now check the keystroke to make sure it works.  You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Dean Martineau
 

That is an extremely useful piece of information, not readily available, which might help me in these situations of no JAWS cursor. I just figured it was hopeless!

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

Yes, the accessibility driver is the one.
If you don't want to run a repair then maybe a Jaws reinstall is in order or a call to FS tech support so they can take a look why this may not be there for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

i understand what you said. but its not there.
just above the use virtual cursor.
you mentioned the video driver in the apps and features for the video driver and i wasn't sure where this was.
i don't know if i have the driver installed or not for windows 10.
in windows 7 there is one called freedom scientific video intercept driver.
but in windows 10 this is not there. but there is one called freedom scientific video accessibility driver. is this the same thing?
maybe the driver has been missing for the last year i have been useing jaws?
original message
Did you by any chance uninstall the video display driver under Apps and Features? I assume maybe then you may not have this setting since there is no accessibility driver which can be toggled on or off.

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Maria Campbell
 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Costas,

Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--


2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:

1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor

Regards,
Sieghard

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--










moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

David Goldfield
 

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Costas,

Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--


2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:

1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor

Regards,
Sieghard

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--












moderated Re: bookmarks chrome RE: best web browser to use with JAWS?

David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

 

There is a nice and easy way to deal with bookmarks in Chrome, favorites in IE, etc. Personally, I think that accessing and managing bookmarks in Chrome in Firefox is very clunky. By contrast, it is extremely easy to access and manage favorites in IE.

 

If you create a desktop shortcut for your favorites folder, you can open the favorites in whatever browser you have chosen as your default. I have Chrome as my default browser, maintain all my favorites in IE, and open them from the desktop with Chrome. I make no effort to maintain bookmarks in Chrome or Firefox, And in Windows 10, it is very easy to change your default browser via the Control Panel.

 

Regards,

David

 

 

moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

I guess it keeps coming up because people are jumping into the thread late. By this point OP's question has been sufficiently answered using the taskkill command.

On 7/3/2019 1:53 PM, JM Casey wrote:

It won’t work if you have a version of JAWS older than 2018, I believe (or maybe it’s 18, but I don’t recall it working there). It’s also not totally reliable since if JAWS process is already fouled up somehow it might not even get the keystroke.

But I don’t know why this keeps coming up in this discussion since the OP specifically asked for tips on killing and restarting JAWS using command line.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July 3, 2019 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

True, but as others said, Jaws Key + Windows + F4 will kill Jaws and reload it although apparently some people say this doesn’t work for them, it does work for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

I assume because you then need a second keystroke to restart it.  I believe the object is to stop and restart JAWS with one action.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 June 2019 16:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Gerald Levy
 


And because Edge is such a screwed up mess, MS has no immediate plans to remove IE from Windows 10?? even though support for it will end next January, , according to Paul Therrot, a well-respected MS insider.


Gerald



On 7/3/2019 1:55 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yeah, I agree with you, Steve, but last I checked there are some work/business/etc type environments where they only allow the use of the IE browser to this day, so while that may be gradually changing, it???s a slow process and many do not want to let go.

??

??

??

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: July 3, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

??

Wow I can???t agree at all.?? Chrome is much better than IE for me in most respects.

??

All the best


Steve

??

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 27 June 2019 00:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

??

Hi,

?? Firefox is very good but as one who is on the net for work and reading the most reliable and acceptable across platforms , in my opinion, is still IE.??

??

Dan

??

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

??

Hi all:

??

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

??

Thanks.

??

??

Best,

??

James Gashel

??

M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@...

??

Connect with me on FaceBook, or

Follow me on Twitter

??

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

netbat66
 

i understand what you said. but its not there.
just above the use virtual cursor.
you mentioned the video driver in the apps and features for the video driver and i wasn't sure where this was.
i don't know if i have the driver installed or not for windows 10.
in windows 7 there is one called freedom scientific video intercept driver.
but in windows 10 this is not there. but there is one called freedom scientific video accessibility driver. is this the same thing?
maybe the driver has been missing for the last year i have been useing jaws?
original message
Did you by any chance uninstall the video display driver under Apps and Features? I assume maybe then you may not have this setting since there is no accessibility driver which can be toggled on or off.

moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

JM Casey
 

Yeah, I agree with you, Steve, but last I checked there are some work/business/etc type environments where they only allow the use of the IE browser to this day, so while that may be gradually changing, it’s a slow process and many do not want to let go.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: July 3, 2019 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Wow I can’t agree at all.  Chrome is much better than IE for me in most respects.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 27 June 2019 00:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi,

  Firefox is very good but as one who is on the net for work and reading the most reliable and acceptable across platforms , in my opinion, is still IE. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

M: (808) 234-9259

E: jgashel0923@...

 

Connect with me on FaceBook, or

Follow me on Twitter

 

moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

JM Casey
 

It won’t work if you have a version of JAWS older than 2018, I believe (or maybe it’s 18, but I don’t recall it working there). It’s also not totally reliable since if JAWS process is already fouled up somehow it might not even get the keystroke.

But I don’t know why this keeps coming up in this discussion since the OP specifically asked for tips on killing and restarting JAWS using command line.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July 3, 2019 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

True, but as others said, Jaws Key + Windows + F4 will kill Jaws and reload it although apparently some people say this doesn’t work for them, it does work for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

I assume because you then need a second keystroke to restart it.  I believe the object is to stop and restart JAWS with one action.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 June 2019 16:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

netbat66
 

its not there. with windows 7 it is just above the use virtual ribbonss.
windows 10 does not have this.
its not in jaws 2018 that i still have installed either.
***
what about the video driver? i don't know if i have this.
in windows 7 in programs and features there is a freedom scientific video intercept driver.
but in windows 10 i only find freedom scientific video accessibility driver. is this the same thing?
maybe this option has been missing on my computer all along for the last year i have been useing jaws with windows 10?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.


Hi Net bat,

There are 2 Miscellaneous folders. The first is a sub-folder in, Web / HTML / PDF's and the second Miscellaneous folder is the one you're looking for. It's the second folder from the bottom of the list, right above the Last Changed Settings folder, and it's number 24 of 25.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture checked, Miscellaneous
this option does not come up with my win10, jaws 2019 search results.

****
tab once and you should have the following two results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture checked, Miscellaneous
not checked
4. Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display
Driver" to clear the checkbox
5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find that some
applications work better with the old accessibility display driver checked
and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more of the
old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI hooking method
which is basically what Jaws uses to get information when the accessibility
display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see if
you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + PC
Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate the touch
cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch
cursor

Regards,
Sieghard

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to trader in a
exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who was the operating
system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any content in
the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only the top and the
bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution is wellcome and
thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--






moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

True, but as others said, Jaws Key + Windows + F4 will kill Jaws and reload it although apparently some people say this doesn’t work for them, it does work for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

I assume because you then need a second keystroke to restart it.  I believe the object is to stop and restart JAWS with one action.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 June 2019 16:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Steve Nutt
 

I assume because you then need a second keystroke to restart it.  I believe the object is to stop and restart JAWS with one action.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 June 2019 16:59
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Why use such a complicate method to do something one can do with the single keystroke, Jaws Key + F4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi,

You can kill JAWS by executing the taskkill command:

taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f

 

The problem with this approach is that you will also need to kill all of JAWS' child processes. When I have some time I'll go through task manager and see all of the different processes that JAWS has. You would use taskkill to kill them off one by one before restarting JAWS.

 

You also need to be running an elevated command prompt to execute taskkill.

 

If done successfully, here is what the output looks like:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.175]
(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>taskkill /IM "jfw.exe" /f
SUCCESS: The process "jfw.exe" with PID 8856 has been terminated.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

On 6/28/2019 8:31 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

moderated Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Dean,

 

Try running JAWS with the command line option “/?”, without the quotes.  It should give all the JAWS command line options then.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 28 June 2019 13:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

I googled JAWS command Line Options and didn’t get anything that seemed helpful.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Dean,

My objective is to make Jaws restart seemlessly so that users are not forced to deal with keystrokes. Some of my cleints get nervous and lose self-trust when its time to shutdown jaws and restart it manually.

Since this process is used when installing Jaws (automatically restart when install is complete), i thought there was a command line that could do the job.

Tanguy

Le 28/06/2019 à 14:05, Dean Martineau a écrit :

                Why not use the Keyboard Manager and assign a new hotkey to the ShutDownJAWS script?  We go through this sort of thing in the forthcoming windows Keyboard Power User Guide book. You could add a keystroke like, perhaps, shift+ctrl+z, or some other keystroke that you can remember, that doesn’t use a JAWSKey, and that isn’t used by other programs you’re using, so that you can use it to do what we do with JAWSKey+F4.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tanguy LOHEAC
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: command line to enforce jaws restart

 

Hi Peter

thank you. However my initial was about Jaws restart, not Windows.

Nevertheless this would be helpful in other circumstances.

thank you

Le 28/06/2019 à 13:36, Peter Tesar a écrit :

Hello,

 

I have this DOS command in my desktop shortcut.

 

   C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00

 

the 's is for shutdown, -r is for reboot

the -f is for force (It doesn't work as well as it did in Win7

The -t is the time to wait -- 0 mili seconds

 

The command shutdown.exe might work without the path.

You could move the shutdown.exe file to your root directory.

 

Peter T.

 

 

On 6/28/2019 4:53 AM, Tanguy LOHEAC wrote:

Hello all

Do you know any command line that can force jaws to restart?

This is because i'm using a program on my laptop that disables the Jaws key. And th only way to restore it is to restart Jaws. But i wish i could write a batch file that would make it automatically after this program has been run.

thank you for any suggestions

 

Have a nice day

Tanguy

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Steve Nutt
 

Wow I can’t agree at all.  Chrome is much better than IE for me in most respects.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 27 June 2019 00:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi,

  Firefox is very good but as one who is on the net for work and reading the most reliable and acceptable across platforms , in my opinion, is still IE. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

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moderated Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

Steve Nutt
 

Hello Dean,

 

I tend to agree with you, though I’ll probably stick to Chrome, even if the new Edge does come out, due to the way it syncs data with my Gmail account.  That is, everything from my PC goes to my phone, all my browsing history etc.

 

Google for the win!

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: 26 June 2019 22:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

I vote for Chrome. When the new Edge comes out, I suspect it will take over, and I’m not sure how much difference between the two a user will notice. I don’t recommend the current Edge, it’s being phased out anyway, and I’ll let others praise Firefox.

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best web browser to use with JAWS?

 

Hi all:

 

Please post your recommendations of what you think is the best web browser to use with the latest version of JAWS. I seem to go back and forth on this and would like to settle down and really learn using what folks think is best.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Best,

 

James Gashel

 

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moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Maria Campbell
 

Changing this setting in w10 is possible, as I and others have done.  You have a problem or are not following directions.



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On 7/3/2019 2:31 AM, netbat66 wrote:
i didn't uninstall anything. apps and features? is this part of jaws or windows settings?
i don't want to do a repair. it has never fixed anything i end up reinstalling to get it fixed.


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Scripts? Not sure I get what you are saying.
This is in Jaws Settings Centre with Default Settings loaded under Miscellaneous, here it is item 9 of 17, just before "Use virtual ribbon menu".
If you don't have this item you may want to consider a Jaws repair, I am on the Jaws beta team and I have never heard of anybody who doesn't have this item, personally I have 5 computers at my business and a laptop at home and it's there on all of them. Did you by any chance uninstall the video display driver under Apps and Features? I assume maybe then you may not have this setting since there is no accessibility driver which can be toggled on or off.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

yes,  the option is not there with win 10, but it is with windows 7. i also loaded several other scripts and did the search with the same results. only one option is in the search results.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.



Do you make sure you have the default settings loaded?







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.







Use Accessibility



Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous






this option does not come up with my win10, jaws 2019 search results.







****



tab once and you should have the following two results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility



Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous
 not checked
4. Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display
Driver" to clear the checkbox
5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find that some
applications work better with the old accessibility display driver checked
and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more of the
old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI hooking method
which is basically what Jaws uses to get information when the accessibility
display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see if
you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + PC
Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate the touch
cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch
cursor

Regards,
Sieghard

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to trader in a
exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who was the operating
system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any content in
the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only the top and the
bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution is wellcome and
thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--