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Richard B. McDonald
Hi Thabo!
I have used WordPress, Drupal and learned some HTML. For sure, WP is the best. Learning some HTML is helpful too, but not critical. Drupal seems to be more of an enterprise CMS. WP can do it all; accessibly too. Use its “classic editor.” Get a book on using WP from Bookshare.
HTH, Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 6:55 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Creating website with JAWS
Good day friends!
Thank you for adding me to the mailing list. This is my first post to the group, and I am excited, I can have my inquiries head.
I have never created a website before, and I want to learn how to do it. Where can I start? Is the place accessible with jars? Some people were telling me that I should use notepad, how is that effective?
Thank you for all the suggestions in advance!
Best regards
Thabo
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Re: Enabling Jaws to speak proofreading info
Norma A. Boge
Hi Adrian and Ann? Success! This was so much easier than I thought it would be. I was thinking I was really gonna have to get under the hood for this one. I have to tell you, though, that the first time I did alt+delete, it deleted the word. Then I tried it again, and Jaws said “PC cursor” and then gave me the info in inches, awesome! Thanks again, people. Cheers! Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Enabling Jaws to speak proofreading info
Norma,
Press alt-delete (on the six-pack, and maybe also the numpad) for JAWS to give you position details in inches. If it doesn’t speak in inches but center meters, post again because there’s a method to switch that I don’t recall at this moment.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Hi everyone,
I’m using J2020 and Word 365. I need to know, in inches, where a line of text starts. For example, If a character were right in the center, Jaws should tell me 4.25”. And I also need the keystroke to read this info. Hope this makes sense. I’m sure I need to modify the Proofreading setting but haven’t spent a lot of time there so want to be precise in my changes.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
David Griffith
Sounds great but how do you do this? If I enable Windows Sticky keys this does not seem to apply to the insert key – at least here. It affects keys like control and alt etc but definitely not the insert key. I tried searching under sticky and insert in Jaws settings but could not find anything here either to set up an insert sticky mode. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Tim Ford
Sent: 07 March 2020 23:30 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
If you enable the insert key sticky mode, it will make this easy as pie, you need only press and release the insert/JAWS key, then press/hold the windows key and tap F4.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Maybe you should try doing it with Narrator enable and not enabled to see if that also makes a difference.
I am trying it out myself but on my mechanical keyboard windows insert and F4 is quite a finger stretch.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Tim Ford
Interesting, I just tried it again, this time counting, and it took around 8 seconds total from the time I pressed the key command to when JAWS started up again. That is quite a wide difference.
Tim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
I just tried this and it took about 25 seconds for JAWS to start back up.
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Re: JAWS spell
Don Walls
Thank you, Joe. With JAWS 2020 I found what I needed in text
processing in the settings centre.
Don
From: Joe
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 7:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS spell Hi, You are in the right area with Setting Center.
I did not get too specific about how to use items such as Settings Center. If you need more instruction please let me know. Hope this helps, Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer
Phone: 616.951.2142
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Don Walls
Well friends, I’m having an interesting week – moved from a “dumb” phone to my first IPhone and also updated from JAWS 17 to JAWS 2020. My new JAWS tells me I have “misspelling” on various words – probably American rather than my Canadian spelling. I’ve gone to the settings centre but can’t find where to silence such prompts and sound effects. Any help gratefully received!
Don
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Tim Ford
If you enable the insert key sticky mode, it will make this easy as pie, you need only press and release the insert/JAWS key, then press/hold the windows key and tap F4.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 3:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Maybe you should try doing it with Narrator enable and not enabled to see if that also makes a difference.
I am trying it out myself but on my mechanical keyboard windows insert and F4 is quite a finger stretch.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Tim Ford
Interesting, I just tried it again, this time counting, and it took around 8 seconds total from the time I pressed the key command to when JAWS started up again. That is quite a wide difference.
Tim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
I just tried this and it took about 25 seconds for JAWS to start back up.
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
David Griffith
Maybe you should try doing it with Narrator enable and not enabled to see if that also makes a difference.
I am trying it out myself but on my mechanical keyboard windows insert and F4 is quite a finger stretch.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Tim Ford
Sent: 07 March 2020 22:12 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Interesting, I just tried it again, this time counting, and it took around 8 seconds total from the time I pressed the key command to when JAWS started up again. That is quite a wide difference.
Tim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
I just tried this and it took about 25 seconds for JAWS to start back up.
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Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
She wants the remote desktop, not the file server lol.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 8:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Finding the ip addresss of a computer?
You need a lot more than just the IP address.
1. In order to access anything on a computer, you need a file server of some kind--FTP, http, etc.
2. In order to make a file server work, you need two addresses--that of the computer itself, and that of the router to which said computer is connected.
2.1. To get the address of the computer on which the server is running, do the following: 2.1.1. Open the Windows Start menu by tapping the Windows Key. 2.1.2. In the search field, type cmd. Hear Windows say "Command prompt ..." etc. Press ENTER. 2.1.3. At the prompt, type "ipconfig" and press ENTER. 2.1.4. Use the JAWS Cursor and move through the screen contents until you find something that sounds similar to this:
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.140
Whatever you find that closely resembles the above, that's your computer's address. Make a note of it.
2.1.5 type EXIT and press ENTER to close the Command Prompt window. 2.2. To find the address of the great unwashed Internet on which your router sits, go to http://www.whatismyip.com and look for something on the screen that sounds like this:
My Public IPv4 is: blah.blah.blah.blah
The numbers you hear, sepearted by periods, are your external wide-area network (WAN) address. Make a note of it.
Now for the hard part.
3. Using your router's address, which you can find by searching the screen you got in step 1 and looking for the string "Gateway," log into your router' administrative/maintenance account and set up a forwarded port to the computer who's address you discovered in Step 2.1 above. The port number you will forward depends upon the kind of server you've set up. Secure FTP is port 22; https is port 443. How to accomplish logging into your router and setting up a forwarded port is beyond the scope of this mesage, mostly since all router manufacturers have different ways of doing it.
You're all set now. You can set up your internal file server to give you access to anything on your home system.
Note that some network-attached storage devices offer this ability in a nice, pre-packaged application which is a lot easier to set up than what I just described, except for the port forwarding part. That one's a necessary evil unfortunately.
On 3/6/2020 10:39 AM, Jessica D wrote:
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Tim Ford
Interesting, I just tried it again, this time counting, and it took around 8 seconds total from the time I pressed the key command to when JAWS started up again. That is quite a wide difference.
Tim
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I just tried this and it took about 25 seconds for JAWS to start back up.
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Loy <loyrg2845@...>
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I just tried this and it took about 25 seconds for
JAWS to start back up.
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
JM Casey
Windows+jaws key+f4 sends a memory dump to some file somewhere and is designed to restart JAWS if there is a hangup. It won’t really work all the time; if JAWS is too unresponsive to even receive the command for instance.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: March 7, 2020 4:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I just tried the jaws + windows key + F4, and it works well. It does not give you the usual screen when exiting JAWS, which was at first confusing because it takes 5-10 seconds before speech stops. JAWS then restarts very quickly, much faster than usual when starting JAWS, maybe 3 seconds or so. I like it!
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott via Groups.Io
The Control Alt J still works for me when I want to load Jaws. However, I have noticed when pressing Insert Windows J, it hesitates to reload. Sometimes, it doesn’t reload.
From: JM Casey
Have actually noticed this as well, oddly enough... Must have something to do with accessibility api (if that's the correct terminology) becoming frozen for one reason or another. Would be interesting to see if someone can verify this and provide a more technical explanation.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: March 7, 2020 1:34 PM Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I really think you may have hit upon something here. I too have noticed that when Jaws becomes unresponsive if I turn on Narrator then pretty quickly Jaws comes back to life and starts talking as well, whereupon I can turn Narrator off again.
This can happen for example if I am using Mp3Gain to increase the volume of a large number of mp3 files. This is an activity which Jaws does not seem to like and can often become unresponsive during the process.
I had put this apparent ability to unlock Jaws using Narrator down to coincidence but given your experience also there may be something happening when turning Narrator on which is, behind the scenes, unlocking some kind of log jam in Jaws.
David Griffith
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: 07 March 2020 16:09 Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I find this key combo works much more slowly in JAWS 2020 than in previous versions. The funny thing is that lately I've found a way to get JAWS to reload more quickly is to start Narrator with control-windows key-enter. For some reason, this seems to inspire JAWS also to load, at which point I toggle Narrator off with the same keystroke. I haven't read about this workaround anywhere. I just noticed it happening once, and then it happened several times after that. Probably not consistent.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I have just tried it and yes it does work so thanks for the information. Unfortunately, as you say it is very slow compared to the equivalent in NVDA but it is still a good option to use when Jaws starts to struggle. I will experiment and try it out over the next few weeks. Thanks again to Bill for this keystroke. David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: 07 March 2020 15:48 Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Yes, that does work. Why I thought it did not work was because JAWS took a long time to reload. Then again, it's JAWS.
Dan
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:49 PM Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?
-------- Original Message -------- From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM Subject: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Not here.
I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
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*From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@...> *Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option.
press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same
behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will
close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws
should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech
has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly
restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and
then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that
it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any
intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a
time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always
straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my
system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even
though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost
instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never
results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type
jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j
for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is
if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on
one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@... <mailto:alapointe89@...>> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted
to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new
way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do
was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for
your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.
Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Tim Ford
I just tried the jaws + windows key + F4, and it works well. It does not give you the usual screen when exiting JAWS, which was at first confusing because it takes 5-10 seconds before speech stops. JAWS then restarts very quickly, much faster than usual when starting JAWS, maybe 3 seconds or so. I like it!
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
The Control Alt J still works for me when I want to load Jaws. However, I have noticed when pressing Insert Windows J, it hesitates to reload. Sometimes, it doesn’t reload.
From: JM Casey
Have actually noticed this as well, oddly enough... Must have something to do with accessibility api (if that's the correct terminology) becoming frozen for one reason or another. Would be interesting to see if someone can verify this and provide a more technical explanation.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: March 7, 2020 1:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I really think you may have hit upon something here. I too have noticed that when Jaws becomes unresponsive if I turn on Narrator then pretty quickly Jaws comes back to life and starts talking as well, whereupon I can turn Narrator off again.
This can happen for example if I am using Mp3Gain to increase the volume of a large number of mp3 files. This is an activity which Jaws does not seem to like and can often become unresponsive during the process.
I had put this apparent ability to unlock Jaws using Narrator down to coincidence but given your experience also there may be something happening when turning Narrator on which is, behind the scenes, unlocking some kind of log jam in Jaws.
David Griffith
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: 07 March 2020 16:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I find this key combo works much more slowly in JAWS 2020 than in previous versions. The funny thing is that lately I've found a way to get JAWS to reload more quickly is to start Narrator with control-windows key-enter. For some reason, this seems to inspire JAWS also to load, at which point I toggle Narrator off with the same keystroke. I haven't read about this workaround anywhere. I just noticed it happening once, and then it happened several times after that. Probably not consistent.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I have just tried it and yes it does work so thanks for the information. Unfortunately, as you say it is very slow compared to the equivalent in NVDA but it is still a good option to use when Jaws starts to struggle. I will experiment and try it out over the next few weeks. Thanks again to Bill for this keystroke. David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: 07 March 2020 15:48 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Yes, that does work. Why I thought it did not work was because JAWS took a long time to reload. Then again, it's JAWS.
Dan
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?
-------- Original Message -------- From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM Subject: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Not here.
I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@...> *Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option.
press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same
behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will
close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws
should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech
has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly
restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and
then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that
it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any
intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a
time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always
straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my
system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even
though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost
instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never
results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type
jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j
for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is
if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on
one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@... <mailto:alapointe89@...>> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted
to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new
way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do
was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for
your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.
Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Melissa Stott
The Control Alt J still works for me when I want to load Jaws. However, I have noticed when pressing Insert Windows J, it hesitates to reload. Sometimes, it doesn’t reload.
From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Have actually noticed this as well, oddly enough... Must have something to do with accessibility api (if that's the correct terminology) becoming frozen for one reason or another. Would be interesting to see if someone can verify this and provide a more technical explanation.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: March 7, 2020 1:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I really think you may have hit upon something here. I too have noticed that when Jaws becomes unresponsive if I turn on Narrator then pretty quickly Jaws comes back to life and starts talking as well, whereupon I can turn Narrator off again.
This can happen for example if I am using Mp3Gain to increase the volume of a large number of mp3 files. This is an activity which Jaws does not seem to like and can often become unresponsive during the process.
I had put this apparent ability to unlock Jaws using Narrator down to coincidence but given your experience also there may be something happening when turning Narrator on which is, behind the scenes, unlocking some kind of log jam in Jaws.
David Griffith
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: 07 March 2020 16:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I find this key combo works much more slowly in JAWS 2020 than in previous versions. The funny thing is that lately I've found a way to get JAWS to reload more quickly is to start Narrator with control-windows key-enter. For some reason, this seems to inspire JAWS also to load, at which point I toggle Narrator off with the same keystroke. I haven't read about this workaround anywhere. I just noticed it happening once, and then it happened several times after that. Probably not consistent.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I have just tried it and yes it does work so thanks for the information. Unfortunately, as you say it is very slow compared to the equivalent in NVDA but it is still a good option to use when Jaws starts to struggle. I will experiment and try it out over the next few weeks. Thanks again to Bill for this keystroke. David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: 07 March 2020 15:48 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Yes, that does work. Why I thought it did not work was because JAWS took a long time to reload. Then again, it's JAWS.
Dan
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?
-------- Original Message -------- From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM Subject: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Not here.
I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it.
David Griffith
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*From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@...> *Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option.
press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
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From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same
behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will
close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws
should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech
has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly
restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and
then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that
it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any
intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a
time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always
straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my
system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even
though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost
instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never
results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type
jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j
for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is
if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on
one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@... <mailto:alapointe89@...>> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted
to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new
way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do
was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for
your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware.
Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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Bill Tessore
To close JAWS I use: Insert + F4 + Enter. To restart JAWS I use Start + J +Enter.
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Shabbat shalom, BuildTessore billtessore@...
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Ann Byrne
Try alt+delete.
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David Griffith
Jaws key plus F4 simply unloads Jaws. However if you review the thread you will find that we have discovered thanks to Bill that Jaws plus Windows key plus F4 does indeed restart Jaws though this happens quite slowly. Several people have noticed that this process speeds up for some reason if Narrator is turned on during this restart. I think this is where we are at.
David Griffith
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From: Tim Ford
Sent: 07 March 2020 20:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I am confused about the suggestion. The JAWS key and F4 just does the uninstall, not starting again. Am I missing something?
Tim Ford
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hmm, I have always unloaded jaws by jaws key f4. To reload, I just go to the search box in the start menu and type jaws press enter.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 6:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it.
-----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center
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Adrian Spratt
Norma,
Press alt-delete (on the six-pack, and maybe also the numpad) for JAWS to give you position details in inches. If it doesn’t speak in inches but center meters, post again because there’s a method to switch that I don’t recall at this moment.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Norma A. Boge
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Enabling Jaws to speak proofreading info
Hi everyone,
I’m using J2020 and Word 365. I need to know, in inches, where a line of text starts. For example, If a character were right in the center, Jaws should tell me 4.25”. And I also need the keystroke to read this info. Hope this makes sense. I’m sure I need to modify the Proofreading setting but haven’t spent a lot of time there so want to be precise in my changes.
Thanks, Norma
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Tim Ford
I am confused about the suggestion. The JAWS key and F4 just does the uninstall, not starting again. Am I missing something?
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Tim Ford
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hmm, I have always unloaded jaws by jaws key f4. To reload, I just go to the search box in the start menu and type jaws press enter. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 6:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it. -----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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Norma A. Boge
Hi everyone,
I’m using J2020 and Word 365. I need to know, in inches, where a line of text starts. For example, If a character were right in the center, Jaws should tell me 4.25”. And I also need the keystroke to read this info. Hope this makes sense. I’m sure I need to modify the Proofreading setting but haven’t spent a lot of time there so want to be precise in my changes.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: unload and reload Jaws?
kitty hevener <khevener@...>
Hmm, I have always unloaded jaws by jaws key f4. To reload, I just go to the search box in the start menu and type jaws press enter.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 6:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it. -----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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JM Casey
Have actually noticed this as well, oddly enough...
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Must have something to do with accessibility api (if that's the correct terminology) becoming frozen for one reason or another. Would be interesting to see if someone can verify this and provide a more technical explanation.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: March 7, 2020 1:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? I really think you may have hit upon something here. I too have noticed that when Jaws becomes unresponsive if I turn on Narrator then pretty quickly Jaws comes back to life and starts talking as well, whereupon I can turn Narrator off again. This can happen for example if I am using Mp3Gain to increase the volume of a large number of mp3 files. This is an activity which Jaws does not seem to like and can often become unresponsive during the process. I had put this apparent ability to unlock Jaws using Narrator down to coincidence but given your experience also there may be something happening when turning Narrator on which is, behind the scenes, unlocking some kind of log jam in Jaws. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: 07 March 2020 16:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? I find this key combo works much more slowly in JAWS 2020 than in previous versions. The funny thing is that lately I've found a way to get JAWS to reload more quickly is to start Narrator with control-windows key-enter. For some reason, this seems to inspire JAWS also to load, at which point I toggle Narrator off with the same keystroke. I haven't read about this workaround anywhere. I just noticed it happening once, and then it happened several times after that. Probably not consistent. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? I have just tried it and yes it does work so thanks for the information. Unfortunately, as you say it is very slow compared to the equivalent in NVDA but it is still a good option to use when Jaws starts to struggle. I will experiment and try it out over the next few weeks. Thanks again to Bill for this keystroke. David Griffith. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: 07 March 2020 15:48 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Yes, that does work. Why I thought it did not work was because JAWS took a long time to reload. Then again, it's JAWS. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan? -------- Original Message -------- From: Dan Longmore [mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM Subject: unload and reload Jaws? No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required. Dan *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload JAWS: JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws? Not here. I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart it. David Griffith Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 *From: *netbat66 <mailto:netbat66@gmail.com> *Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws? jaws already has this option. press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload it. -----Original Message----- From: David Griffith Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Personally as a feature request I would prefer that Jaws has the same behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing control alt and N will close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further intervention. Jaws should do the same thing with control alt J. This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has stalled or speech has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and nicely as NVDA instantly restarts itself with this forced restart. In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and shut it down and then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws itself recognises that it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart itself without any intervention from the user. The drawback it that it normally takes quite a time to come to this conclusion. Shutting down Jaws within one session in these circumstances is also not always straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple Jaws icons on my system tray as previous version have clearly failed to completely unload, even though only one instance of Jaws is talking. A computer restart is normally required to remove these multiple ghost instances of Jaws. I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut approach which in my experience never results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the background. David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws? Hi, The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows: One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the run box. Type jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up talking. Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the desktop. Press j for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with the desktop method is if you have other things that start with j on your desktop, you might land on one of those. I hope this helps. On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@comcast.net <mailto:alapointe89@comcast.net>> wrote: Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key f4. When I wanted to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t work. Is there a new way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws 20. What I had to do was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at startup. Thank you for your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used Romeo Printer at Humanware. Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all great!! Andy and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe, President Friends of the Salem Council on Aging 34 Raymond Ave. Salem, MA. 01970 Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185 Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center
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