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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Glenn / Lenny
 


There is a setting for that, I have never changed that, but it is a separate tab in settings.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

I take onboard what you are saying but what I like about MS Word is that you do have these options so can make use of them if you so wish, or turn them off. Personally I find the auto-numbering really useful and also I like that you can get MS Word to automatically indent paragraphs if you so wish. I like the ease with which you can make your document single-line or double etc.

Is there a way to get MS Word to show measurements in imperial rather than metric, does anyone know?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Word does a lot of things automatically that I have never liked.

Like if I put in a number, word assumes that the next line is a number and puts in a 2, and it is distracting to have to remove it.

I had to go in to settings and turn off numbers and bullets I think was the setting.

I also don't like the distraction of it spell checking as I go, so I had to turn that off too.

And I have disagreed with some of the grammar changes, so I had to turn that off too.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Brian, don’t assume it’s user error.  I just did an experiment.  I numbered each line in a word document with 1 inch margins and 12 point font.  With the paragraph settings changed as I noted in my earlier email, I fit 43 lines on the page and it looks like older versions of Word.  If I revert the paragraph settings to the default for newer versions of office, my list of numbers suddenly had 26 as the last line on page 1.  Unfortunately, this is a visual thing and you wouldn’t probably know that Office is doing this unless you had JAWS read out your position on the page.  I’m not sure why Microsoft started making this the default, but they did. The other default is that a wider space is put between paragraphs with a single press of the Enter key.  I’m old school and prefer to hit Enter twice to get my paragraph spacing.  Especially if I am making a list, I do not want Word to put extra space between items.

 

Happy to try to explain this more to anyone who is interested.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Van Lant, Robin
 

Allison,

Is fullscap paper essentially legal sized paper?  I have not heard these terms before.  I’ll still see people here at work using legal sized paper (8 ½ by 14) to print wide spreadsheets, but not generally for Word documents. I

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

After the initial repair, I called back again and spoke to a second agent.  She appeared to have fixed the issue for the current moment, but on trying to replicate the success just now It seems to have gone back to the issue at hand.  Ironically, I can use almost all features of Windows Mail app and will use that instead for the time being.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

contacted Microsoft disability support. Currently running a repair on office and I'm supposed to call them back once the repair is completed.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal


moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Alison,

                The following says "Powerpoint" but it applies to any of the Office suite programs where you're using the ruler:

Change the measurement units from inches to centimeters

In desktop versions of PowerPoint, you don’t have to use the measurement units PowerPoint comes with. A few clicks, as described below, change PowerPoint units, for example, from inches to centimeters.

Windows
macOSWeb

PowerPoint displays the measurement system your computer uses, so to change from inches to metric (or vice versa), you make the change in Control Panel in Windows rather than in PowerPoint.

  1. Close PowerPoint.

  2. Go to Control Panel by doing one of the following:

    • In Windows 10, click Start and type Control Panel.

    • In Windows 8, swipe in from the right edge of the screen, and then tap Search. (If you're using a mouse, point to the upper-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer down, and then click Search.) Enter Control Panel in the search box, tap or click Apps, and then tap or click Control Panel.

  3. Select the app that has Region in its name. (The exact name varies depending on which version of Windows you’re using.) The exact options that appear are different for various versions of Windows:

    • If you’re using Windows 10, Windows 8 or Windows 7, in the Region or Clock, Language and Region dialog box, click the Change Date, Time or Number Formats tab, and then click Additional settings. Select Metric from the Measurement system list, and click OK.

    • If you’re using Windows Vista or Windows XP, click the Regional Options tab, and then click Customize. On the Numbers tab, in the Measurement system list, click Metric. Apply the changes.

    • If you’re using another version of Windows, look for a Numbers option that includes a Measurements setting, and then change the value to Metric. Apply the changes.

  4. Start PowerPoint.

The ruler (and dialog boxes that show units of measure) now display measurements in the system you've chosen.

--

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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

Not as of yet.  Need to get the number off the MS site.  I’ll try that this morning.

 

Sincerely,

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.
I can change folders without any issue.
Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?
800-936-5900


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

CJ &AA MAY
 

I take onboard what you are saying but what I like about MS Word is that you do have these options so can make use of them if you so wish, or turn them off. Personally I find the auto-numbering really useful and also I like that you can get MS Word to automatically indent paragraphs if you so wish. I like the ease with which you can make your document single-line or double etc.

Is there a way to get MS Word to show measurements in imperial rather than metric, does anyone know?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Word does a lot of things automatically that I have never liked.

Like if I put in a number, word assumes that the next line is a number and puts in a 2, and it is distracting to have to remove it.

I had to go in to settings and turn off numbers and bullets I think was the setting.

I also don't like the distraction of it spell checking as I go, so I had to turn that off too.

And I have disagreed with some of the grammar changes, so I had to turn that off too.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Brian, don’t assume it’s user error.  I just did an experiment.  I numbered each line in a word document with 1 inch margins and 12 point font.  With the paragraph settings changed as I noted in my earlier email, I fit 43 lines on the page and it looks like older versions of Word.  If I revert the paragraph settings to the default for newer versions of office, my list of numbers suddenly had 26 as the last line on page 1.  Unfortunately, this is a visual thing and you wouldn’t probably know that Office is doing this unless you had JAWS read out your position on the page.  I’m not sure why Microsoft started making this the default, but they did. The other default is that a wider space is put between paragraphs with a single press of the Enter key.  I’m old school and prefer to hit Enter twice to get my paragraph spacing.  Especially if I am making a list, I do not want Word to put extra space between items.

 

Happy to try to explain this more to anyone who is interested.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

CJ &AA MAY
 

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated braille display going to sleep during windows login

Michelle's Home Emails
 

hi list

MY friend who is Deafblind is having problems where her braille display goes to sleep too quickly during login. Any way how to fix this so that it give a longer time to read information? Jays 2019 pro windows vers 10


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moderated Re: Options dialog boxes in Office 365

Stephen Bennett
 

Hi there
You can sometimes get around this by pressing tab and then shift tab, sometimes this stops the reading of the group header and just reads the control you are interested in. In my experience, NVDA very rarely has this issue.
SB

On 17/09/2019, at 4:25 AM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:

All I know to do about this is to learn the alt+ key shortcut for any options you plan to change often, then you can probably hit that key once you’ve tabbed into the page for that category. To my knowledge, no other screen reader will help, it’s just how the Options pages are constructed now.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Options dialog boxes in Office 365

 

I switched to Office 365 and also to JAWS sometime around the beginning of 2018.  Before that I was a Window Eyes user.  I have noticed something about how JAWS reads the choices in the Options dialog box for all Office products that I find challenging.  I’m not sure if this started when I started using one of these products or with an update to one of them.  I’d like to know if others have found a way to change this behavior or if others agree that it is challenging and warrants a change request to Freedom Scientific.  Here’s the issue:

 

Use Alt F, then T to open the Options dialog box.  Arrow up and down to select a  panel of options.  From here, we tab through all the choices for that group of options.  Microsoft has these choices on each panel arranged in groups with headings.  As I tab, JAWS is reading the heading before each option.  In some cases the heading is long, so I have to wait to hear the whole heading before I know which option I’m on.   Some panels, like the mail options panel in Outlook have a really long list of choices, so it’s a really tedious process to get to the option I want to change if ti’s far down in the list.  This used to not be the case, but I don’t’ recall when I noticed the change.

 

What are other’s opinions of this behavior? 

Robin

Windows 10, Office 365, JAWS 2019



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Certain settings in your Outlook configuration may cause crashes and this is likely due to a conflict with JAWS and that particular setting.  For example, if reading pane is on in e-mail or certain groupings in Contacts can cause issues with JAWS andmay increase crashes.  Just some things to check. 

 

Thanks,

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

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moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

David Bailes
 

Hi Lorel and Soronel,
are the notifications which imply that you can take some action, and which you've not able to execute that action coming from any particular apps or parts of Windows. If so, can you give any examples so that I can check them out?

David.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:34 AM, Loreal Lavigna wrote:

I’ve noticed some of the same to be honest with you.  I’m still reading and trying to figure things out, so if I happen to come across anything I’ll certainly pass it along!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

The one I have problems with is actually triggering items in Action

Center. I have reason to belive the at least some of the labels are

clickable but enter activates the clear list button instead.

 

On 9/17/19, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:

> Thanks I really appreciate it!  I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since

> I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company

> who used it exclusively.  I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my

> personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to

> upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely

> unsupported as of January 2020.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

> To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

> To expand the notification area  press space on the notification cheveron

> button after pressing windows B.

> David Griffith

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> 10

> From: Loreal Lavigna <mailto:loreallavigna@...>

> Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17

> To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

> Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

> Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop?  I

> have all updates installed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

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> 10

>

 

 

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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Sorry, and also the version of Windows 10, you can open the search field (Windows Key) or the run command and type WinVer, you can then review the information with the Jaws cursor or virtualize it so you can easily copy the full version/built number and paste it in your email.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

It would, as usual, greatly help if you could say if you use Outlook via an Office 365 subscription or have the retail version and, if the retail version which one it is, e.g. Outlook 2013, 2016 etc.

Also, what version of Jaws do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Van Lant, Robin
 

A couple months ago My Outlook 365 here at work was crashing at odd times, but it seems to have fixed itself with some update I recently installed to Office.  I haven’t updated JAWS since April or May, so it has to be the Outlook update that fixed the problem.    The most annoying crash was while spell checking. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10