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moderated Re: How to focus on Chrome 77 notifications?

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

They don’t make this easy. To get to notification settings, press alt+f, s for chrome settings, press Enter on the Advanced button to expand it, activate the link for Site Settings, and then activate the link for Notifications. Here, there is a toggle button for the global setting, which is either Block or (roughly) ask each time, the default.  I much prefer Block!  Below, you can add sites to the block or Allow lists.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 11:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to focus on Chrome 77 notifications?

 

Hi all,

 

When I open Google Chrome on my win7-64-powered computer running Jaws 2019, I sometimes hear notifications. Some of them, like download progress are easily reachable by pressing the <F6> or <Shift+F6> key but some others do not seem to be reachable.

 

In addition, some of these notifications I don’t know how to reach have several buttons which are spoken once by Jaws. One of them is “Notifications settings” and another is “done”. Since I don’t know how to interact with this button, I tried to find a page about notifications settings in the Chrome menu. I definitely know how to display the Chrome settings page but in this page, I cannot figure out what to look for about notifications.

 

Finally, since I don’t know how to press the “done” button which is spoken by Jaws at the end of notifications, when I press <alt+F4> to close Chrome, the foreground Chrome window is closed but Chrome still runs in the background. So, how can I interact with those notifications please?

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D


moderated How to focus on Chrome 77 notifications?

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi all,

 

When I open Google Chrome on my win7-64-powered computer running Jaws 2019, I sometimes hear notifications. Some of them, like download progress are easily reachable by pressing the <F6> or <Shift+F6> key but some others do not seem to be reachable.

 

In addition, some of these notifications I don’t know how to reach have several buttons which are spoken once by Jaws. One of them is “Notifications settings” and another is “done”. Since I don’t know how to interact with this button, I tried to find a page about notifications settings in the Chrome menu. I definitely know how to display the Chrome settings page but in this page, I cannot figure out what to look for about notifications.

 

Finally, since I don’t know how to press the “done” button which is spoken by Jaws at the end of notifications, when I press <alt+F4> to close Chrome, the foreground Chrome window is closed but Chrome still runs in the background. So, how can I interact with those notifications please?

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D


moderated Re: Issues with google chrome

Glenn / Lenny
 

When trying to copy text, have you tried dropping a temporary placemarker with windows control + K, and then moving to the other end of what you want to copy and press insert + space bar, and then the letter M.
This will select what you want, then you do the normal copy command.
On the Google settings, try saving the settings before leaving the page.

HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "turab chimthanawala" <turabhvc@...>
To: "jfw" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 6:01 AM
Subject: Issues with google chrome


Hi all,
I use JAWS 2018, the latest google chrome and Win 10.
I face challenges:
1. Each time I login to Gmail, I am required to select "Basic HTML
view": In IE, once chosen, this doesn't have to be done everytime.
2. I can't seem to copy stuff from certain web pages: The same happens in IE.
3. Any list of key commands to ensure better use of JAWS and Google chrome.
Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: activating windows by script

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I believe that Doug Lee Skype for business scripts can do most of this functionality for Skype. Skype does also have some universal keystrokes but I can never remember them. 
https://www.dlee.org/sfb/lync.htm


moderated Re: accurate item counts in file explorer windows

Tom Behler
 

Adrian:

 

Unfortunately, I was unable to get an accurate file count by switching to Narrator, and then back to Jaws as you suggest.

 

For me, insert page down seems to be the best way to get an accurate file count, until this bug is fixed.

 

Of course, I’m always open to other suggestions.

 

By the way, I always check to be sure my screen is maximized.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accurate item counts in file explorer windows

 

Dean,

 

Switch to Narrator, which gives counts for both the current screen and the entire file list in a folder. Switch back to JAWS, and JAWS is now likely to report the desired information.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accurate item counts in file explorer windows

 

It seems to me there was a solution to this little problem, but I can’t remember it. JAWS 2019 in Windows 10 gives inaccurate counts of files.  It will report that a given file is 1 of 25, when in fact there are many more than 25 files in the folder. I have changed the item type of the folder, to no avail. NVDA does this fine. The file is maximized. Is there a known fix?

 

 


moderated Using chrome and moved to top of page

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2019, windows10 – 1903 build 18362356. and chrome. I will flip from the chrome window to another. Then flip back to the chrome window. For some reason I end up at the top of the page. Then I have to move back down to where I was at. Is this a Jaws or chrome problem. This occurs on my bank web site of pnc.com. When I search in chrome and review the page I can flip in and out and remain where I left off. Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: help with narrator and Jaws

G. Gray
 

Thanks, but that didn’t work either.  Well I tried that combo...did not work, it looks like the command to stop Narrator in Win. 7 home + JFW is
 
insert + control + home
 
I had it on my desktop....but it is gone now!!!!
  
 
 
Regards,
 
George
 

Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws
 

In Windows 7, I believe the keystroke is Windows+Enter.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws

 

Hello-

 

Thanks for the help!  I finally got it shut off, but control windows key and enter did not work.  I use Windows 7 home and JFW 2019 latest version, so maybe that command is different. for Windows 7 users  It was really a frustrating situation!!!

 

 

George

 

Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 5:32 AM

Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws

 

 

Press Control-Windows key-Enter to toggle off Narrator.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 9/23/2019 6:24 AM, G. Gray wrote:

I thought I’d try narrator to see if I could get Jaws to tell the number of files in a folder.  Worked ok, but now I have Jaws + narrator.  What is the key combo to shut off narrator???  Thanks

 

Regards,

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

 

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moderated Re: Issues with google chrome

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi Dean,
Thanks
Well yes I face the same trouble while copying in chrome while using NVDA.

On 9/23/19, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:
It would be enlightening to know if you have the same problems copying from
web pages if you tried it with NVDA or with a demo copy of JAWS 2019.

With Chrome open, you can hold down Insert and press F1 quickly to get all
that JAWS help has to offer about using Chrome, including lots of
keystrokes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab
chimthanawala
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:01 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Issues with google chrome

Hi all,
I use JAWS 2018, the latest google chrome and Win 10.
I face challenges:
1. Each time I login to Gmail, I am required to select "Basic HTML
view": In IE, once chosen, this doesn't have to be done everytime.
2. I can't seem to copy stuff from certain web pages: The same happens in
IE.
3. Any list of key commands to ensure better use of JAWS and Google chrome.
Thanks
Best
Turab







moderated Re: Issues with google chrome

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

It would be enlightening to know if you have the same problems copying from web pages if you tried it with NVDA or with a demo copy of JAWS 2019.

With Chrome open, you can hold down Insert and press F1 quickly to get all that JAWS help has to offer about using Chrome, including lots of keystrokes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:01 AM
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Issues with google chrome

Hi all,
I use JAWS 2018, the latest google chrome and Win 10.
I face challenges:
1. Each time I login to Gmail, I am required to select "Basic HTML
view": In IE, once chosen, this doesn't have to be done everytime.
2. I can't seem to copy stuff from certain web pages: The same happens in IE.
3. Any list of key commands to ensure better use of JAWS and Google chrome.
Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: help with narrator and Jaws

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

In Windows 7, I believe the keystroke is Windows+Enter.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws

 

Hello-

 

Thanks for the help!  I finally got it shut off, but control windows key and enter did not work.  I use Windows 7 home and JFW 2019 latest version, so maybe that command is different. for Windows 7 users  It was really a frustrating situation!!!

 

 

George

 

Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 5:32 AM

Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws

 

 

Press Control-Windows key-Enter to toggle off Narrator.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 9/23/2019 6:24 AM, G. Gray wrote:

I thought I’d try narrator to see if I could get Jaws to tell the number of files in a folder.  Worked ok, but now I have Jaws + narrator.  What is the key combo to shut off narrator???  Thanks

 

Regards,

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

 

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moderated Re: help with narrator and Jaws

G. Gray
 

Hello-
 
Thanks for the help!  I finally got it shut off, but control windows key and enter did not work.  I use Windows 7 home and JFW 2019 latest version, so maybe that command is different. for Windows 7 users  It was really a frustrating situation!!!
 
 
George
 

Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: help with narrator and Jaws
 

 

Press Control-Windows key-Enter to toggle off Narrator.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 9/23/2019 6:24 AM, G. Gray wrote:
I thought I’d try narrator to see if I could get Jaws to tell the number of files in a folder.  Worked ok, but now I have Jaws + narrator.  What is the key combo to shut off narrator???  Thanks
 
Regards,

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Issues with google chrome

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
I use JAWS 2018, the latest google chrome and Win 10.
I face challenges:
1. Each time I login to Gmail, I am required to select "Basic HTML
view": In IE, once chosen, this doesn't have to be done everytime.
2. I can't seem to copy stuff from certain web pages: The same happens in IE.
3. Any list of key commands to ensure better use of JAWS and Google chrome.
Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: Multiple speech schemes?

Mark
 

I'm pretty sure it's a speech scheme.


moderated Re: activating windows by script

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Well, you know more than I do about some of this. If you once pin Skype, I
think that's the task bar position it will occupy the next time you have a
chat. If you pin Outlook to the task bar, hitting the keystroke will take
you to whichever Outlook window has focus. If you stop the default behavior
of combining your task bar buttons, you can use first-letter navigation on
the task bar to get to all open windows of a particular program. So not
quite as efficient as what you want to do, but perhaps a good system to
implement until you can implement yours.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: activating windows by script

Dean,

This seems not what I am looking for.
The chatwindows only exist if you have a chat, so you have to pin it
each day again and remember what number it is. And I have more outlook
mailboxes open, so more outlook windows.
I want to activate windows by classname orso as is possible with
autohotkey. Wonder if a jawsscript can do this and how.\

Marten

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:22:57 -0400 "Dean Martineau" <topdot@...>
wrote:

This is the sort of thing my book, Windows Keyboard Power User Guide
concerns itself with. https://techforblind.us

I don't know if you can do this at work, I suspect you can, but go to the
run dialog and type shell:appsfolder and press enter. You get a listing of
everything installed on the computer. You can put icons to all of them on
the desktop, native Windows apps won't come with such icons by default,
and
then assign hotkeys to them. It varies, but most of such hotkeys can be
used
to switch to the app as well as launch it, but that doesn't work with
Office
apps.

You can certainly pin your most important programs to the task bar. Skype
for Business and Outlook can be pinned. Once you learn the position of
the
icons on the task bar, up to ten of them, you can press Windows+Number to
launch or switch to that program.


I suspect at least some of this will work for you.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: activating windows by script

Hi,

Is it possible to activate windows by using a script?

You can use ins-f10 and choose an other window, but I want to activate a
window by using a hotkey, so I can allways activate the skype for
business chat window for example or the outlook window.

Earlioer I used autohotkey for this, but at my work they don't want me
to use this program.

Regards, Marten






moderated Re: help with narrator and Jaws

Gerald Levy
 


Press Control-Windows key-Enter to toggle off Narrator.


Gerald



On 9/23/2019 6:24 AM, G. Gray wrote:
I thought I’d try narrator to see if I could get Jaws to tell the number of files in a folder.  Worked ok, but now I have Jaws + narrator.  What is the key combo to shut off narrator???  Thanks
 
Regards,

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated help with narrator and Jaws

G. Gray
 

I thought I’d try narrator to see if I could get Jaws to tell the number of files in a folder.  Worked ok, but now I have Jaws + narrator.  What is the key combo to shut off narrator???  Thanks
 
Regards,

George

Think about:
60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index.
Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation.
In just the last 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism, and
Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign; But Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation (after Hillary sold them 20% of our uranium…illegally).
But President Trump was the one investigated! (Proverbs 29:2)

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Multiple speech schemes?

Annabelle Susan Morison
 


Hey there.
Are you sure you're not thinking of "Voice Aliases"? I'm confused!



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mweiler@...
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Multiple speech schemes?

Can a speech scheme be set up so one voice says the text content of a page and another voice describes what the content is? Web Rent-a-crowd is different than what I'm after. As an example, of what I'm after, a sentence with a link would be: voice one My friend has a blog about voice two, link, voice one German Shepards.


moderated Re: accurate item counts in file explorer windows

Adrian Spratt
 

Dean,

 

Switch to Narrator, which gives counts for both the current screen and the entire file list in a folder. Switch back to JAWS, and JAWS is now likely to report the desired information.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accurate item counts in file explorer windows

 

It seems to me there was a solution to this little problem, but I can’t remember it. JAWS 2019 in Windows 10 gives inaccurate counts of files.  It will report that a given file is 1 of 25, when in fact there are many more than 25 files in the folder. I have changed the item type of the folder, to no avail. NVDA does this fine. The file is maximized. Is there a known fix?

 

 


moderated Multiple speech schemes?

Mark
 

Can a speech scheme be set up so one voice says the text content of a page and another voice describes what the content is? Web Rent-a-crowd is different than what I'm after. As an example, of what I'm after, a sentence with a link would be: voice one My friend has a blog about voice two, link, voice one German Shepards.


moderated Re: activating windows by script

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Dean,

This seems not what I am looking for.
The chatwindows only exist if you have a chat, so you have to pin it
each day again and remember what number it is. And I have more outlook
mailboxes open, so more outlook windows.
I want to activate windows by classname orso as is possible with
autohotkey. Wonder if a jawsscript can do this and how.\

Marten

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:22:57 -0400 "Dean Martineau" <topdot@...> wrote:

This is the sort of thing my book, Windows Keyboard Power User Guide
concerns itself with. https://techforblind.us

I don't know if you can do this at work, I suspect you can, but go to the
run dialog and type shell:appsfolder and press enter. You get a listing of
everything installed on the computer. You can put icons to all of them on
the desktop, native Windows apps won't come with such icons by default, and
then assign hotkeys to them. It varies, but most of such hotkeys can be used
to switch to the app as well as launch it, but that doesn't work with Office
apps.

You can certainly pin your most important programs to the task bar. Skype
for Business and Outlook can be pinned. Once you learn the position of the
icons on the task bar, up to ten of them, you can press Windows+Number to
launch or switch to that program.


I suspect at least some of this will work for you.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: activating windows by script

Hi,

Is it possible to activate windows by using a script?

You can use ins-f10 and choose an other window, but I want to activate a
window by using a hotkey, so I can allways activate the skype for
business chat window for example or the outlook window.

Earlioer I used autohotkey for this, but at my work they don't want me
to use this program.

Regards, Marten