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moderated Re: android vs ios.

Sean Murphy
 

There is many levels you can look at the differences of Android VS Apple. The underlying Accessibility model, the SDK model, the user interface, the fragmentation of the market of versions, how different models work. As I use both for testing and as an user. Let me touch upon both. I am not going to say which one is better. As this comes down to your own personal usage and needs. Some users find Android or Apple is better for their needs.

 

 

  • Android TalkBack is a separate program. If you use Samsung, then you have to install Talkback. As Voice Assist is the default screen reader and as far as I am concern. Has not kept up to the changes made to the underlying accessibility framework. Talkback is better then Voice Assist.
  • Software version control in my opinion is not as fragmented as the Android market. Any statistics out there will demonstrate that majority of Apple phones are using the latest OS which is supported for their device. Apple does force the upgrade. But users can opt out of this. Android also does force upgrade. Due to the larger number of models of phone. There is far more variation of OS versions out there.
  • All iPhones work with your finger. Android devices cannot claim this at all. In fact, one of the Android devices I am using, you cannot use your finger correctly with the keyboard. You might be wanting to enter in a letter ‘I”. But a different letter is enter. If you use the stylist which comes with the phone. Then you don’t have the issue. This is all related to the touch size area. Not all Android phones have this issue.
  • You have far more flexibility with Android than you do with Apple. Android has launch pads which you can change. I had to do this with one of my Android models to make TalkBack work correctly when using the angle gestures.
  • Android permits you to navigate by control, header, link, paragraph, line, word and char plus the default. Apple does not. Apple only provides char, word, line, header. I am referring here to native apps which are not web based.
  • All the Apple phones I have used, the gestures work  without any issues. I started with the iPhone 4 and now I have an iPhone 11. I cannot say I have had the same experience on the Android. I have used the Google Pixcel II and Samsung Note 10 with the same problem where the phone does not automatically detect my finger. I have to muck around for a while before it occurs.
  • Android has better keyboard support. Apples isn’t bad, but not quite there. Android you can use the tab key to navigate any app. Apple this does not always occur.
  • I find the apple apps as a whole are far better to use with VoiceOver than Talkback. I used Audible on both platforms. I found a lot of issues with the Android app compared to the Apple version. This also applies to other apps.
  • Someone mention having TalkBack as a separate app is a good thing. I don’t think this is the case. A lot of the things I don’t like about TalkBack and Android is due to this fact. VoiceOver is at the OS layer. Hence the interaction is far better. An example is on the Pixcel II using Android 8.1 and still exist in Android 10. Navigating using the left and right swipe. The focus to the next item can jump to a unexpected location. This does occur if you are scolling. I have never seen this in Apple using the same gesture in their settings app to scroll through the items. Apples good interaction is all due to the screen reader being a part of the OS.
  • Drag and drop on the Apple is far nicer than Android. Apple you get an action option. This allows you to select an item to drag, then append another item to the drag and finally choose if you want to placed the dragged items before or after where you want to drop it. You are guided at each point of the interaction. Android you have to perform a double tap and hold. Then drag your finger to the location. I find this method harder.
  • Apple gesture are easier to remember. This is because I learnt the apple first. I don’t like the angle methodology at all by the way. I have got to used to it. But it is very hard to remember. I have been using it over 6 months now regularly. If you struggle in memory which angle gesture does what, then it is a poor user experience. This is because you should not have to think to use it. This is where in my mind apple for the basic gesture you use everyday is easier. Left, right, up and down swipe, double tap and the router. You can do everything just about on the phone.
  • The default TTS on apple is better than Android. Android you can use different TTS. Apple you cannot.

 

 

The biggest issue all both mobile platforms have is the range of object (controls) available in the SDK. A control/object is an edit, button, link, ETC. In the accessibility  world they call them roles. Android calls them types. Apple call them trades. An example where a role is  missing is lists box or list views. In an email program, you never know if you are on message 25 of 100. Windows and Mac you get this information. Another example is radio buttons. Doesn’t exist on mobile. These are just two examples.

 

End of the day, you need to really spend some time with both devices to see which one works for you. This is the hardest bit to do. Statistically in Australia majority of Low vision and Blind users use Apple. It is over 60%. I think Android has about 17%. That is the other consideration. I don’t know if this is the same case in other countries.

 

Sean

  • From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
    Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 7:34 AM
    To: main@jfw.groups.io
    Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I am pretty happy with Android but I don’t honestly use my phone all that much. I’ve thought of trying to connect my braille display but haven’t bothered, especially now that I have a laptop…everything I’ve heard so far suggests that it can be done but that it’s quite a painful process, and I’m not that patient. I’m not a fan of Apple as a company so I will probably never acquire one of their products (though they made my first computer in the 80s, an Apple Ii E, they were a different company then…)

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: June 27, 2020 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

No one has mentioned the breill support on the android is no where as good as the I Phone. Jonathon Moson still thinks the Android phones are behind in both the screen reader and the breill support.

On 6/26/2020 11:23 PM, Patrick Murphy wrote:

hi folks,

 

i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?

cheers,

pat

 


moderated Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

JawBone is long dead, replaced by J-Say.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

 

Hay,  Didn’t there use to be a program called JAWBONES that was supposed to work between JAWS and Dragon?

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 9:15 PM

Subject: Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

 

Dean,

Thanks for making me aware of this as I did not realize that the Dictationbridge scripts for JAWS were in such an unfinished state. I hope that the project team makes this clear on their Web site.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/24/2020 7:25 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I understand that it appears that Dictation Bridge for JAWS is a product, but it does not in fact work. Lucy Greko, one of those who spearheaded the project, confirmed this when I met year last year. The project ran out of funding, and development was still necessary for the JAWS version.  I think some people can use it, experienced users, but it is not for everybody as the project intended.

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scripts for JFW and Dragon?

 

Hi. A free version of Dictation Bridge is also available for JAWS.

Hartgen Consultancy has two solutions for using JAWS with Dragon. J-Dictate is for people who want to use Dragon for dictation into programs such as Word, Outlook, etc., who are comfortable or able to use their computer keyboard.

J-Say not only allows for voice dictation but it allows a user to completely control their computer with all commands, both for Windows as well as for JAWS. The programs from Hartgen Consultancy are specific to JAWS whereas Dictation Bridge has a separate addon for NVDA.

 


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/23/2020 2:29 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
> Your best bet is to buy Jay dictate to work with dragon and jaws. > With NVDA, you would be able to use dictation bridge, which is free. > > On Jun 23, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Dani Pagador mailto:pocketfulofspry@... > wrote: > > Hi, Everyone. I need to archive a book and want to use Dragon > Naturally Speaking to do it. I'm running JFW18 and Win10. Are there > scripts that work with JFW and Dragon? Or resources I can access to > learn to use the dictation feature of the program? > > Thanks, Dani > > > > > >


moderated Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

kevin meyers
 

This occurs to me on a ramdom basis and only in Outlook.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

I’ve not experienced this.

Have you closed everything and rebooted?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:15 AM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I have 2 computers one has Office 2016 and the second has Office 2013.  I mostly use Word and outlook.  When I use the spell check , most, but not all the time the spell check dialogue is sluggish. 

 

I have the latest version of JAWS 2020 installed.  I have windows 10 on both computers.

 

This occurs in both Office programs I mentioned earlier.  Alt-tab away from the window and returning back does not solve anything.  Sometimes if I close JAWS and launch it again, it does help.  It does not seem to matter if I have other programs open as well or not.  Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Glenn / Lenny
 

I have considered that, I think it is likely, but I haven't tested that.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

Can I get a USB to a Ethernet  connector and connect to the router?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

It helps to install the printer software on the other computers.
Then after the software is installed, you will look for a network printer, either in the printer software, or in control panel under printers.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM
Subject: Sharing a printer

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Can I get a USB to a Ethernet  connector and connect to the router?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

It helps to install the printer software on the other computers.
Then after the software is installed, you will look for a network printer, either in the printer software, or in control panel under printers.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM
Subject: Sharing a printer

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files

JM Casey
 

That is indeed pretty simple...I suppose it's mostlyt eh documentation that
seems to hurt my brain when I try to figure out how to use it. I'm
reasonably used to command line but ffmpeg admittedly seemed to defeat me a
bit. Very useful and easy though if you can get the hang of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: June 26, 2020 9:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files

The ffmpeg command is very simple, just ffmpeg -i <mp4 file name> <wav file
name> and that's it. I have never tried this on Windows, so I have no idea
on how this works under that OS.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 19:17:42 -0400,
JM Casey wrote:

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Try audacity. You may have to install the ffmpeg library separately.
The latter has a command line interface that you could use and cut
audacity out of the equation (I think) but, it's a bit complicated. :D





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Redlich
Sent: June 26, 2020 6:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files



Which is the best free accessible software to convert mp4 audio files
in to
mp3 or wav files.



2nd question: Is there a software that strips mp4 audio from a video
mp4 file that converts them to either .wav or mp3?



Thanks.

Judy








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moderated Re: android vs ios.

JM Casey
 

I am pretty happy with Android but I don’t honestly use my phone all that much. I’ve thought of trying to connect my braille display but haven’t bothered, especially now that I have a laptop…everything I’ve heard so far suggests that it can be done but that it’s quite a painful process, and I’m not that patient. I’m not a fan of Apple as a company so I will probably never acquire one of their products (though they made my first computer in the 80s, an Apple Ii E, they were a different company then…)

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: June 27, 2020 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

No one has mentioned the breill support on the android is no where as good as the I Phone. Jonathon Moson still thinks the Android phones are behind in both the screen reader and the breill support.

On 6/26/2020 11:23 PM, Patrick Murphy wrote:

hi folks,

 

i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?

cheers,

pat

 


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

This printer only has a USB  connection and no USB connector on my router. I am going to follow your instruction above now and see if I have any luck. Thanks

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

Also, you will need to go to the printer settings on the computer it is connected to and set it as a shared printer, or you can connect the printer to your router.
That is the best way.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM
Subject: Sharing a printer

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

Adrian Spratt
 

For a JAWS repair, you need the file for the version and release that you’re running. Assuming you have it, press enter on it. After a few moments, JAWS will indicate it’s ready to perform the repair. Press enter and sit back. When the repair is done, you’ll probably have to reboot.

 

If you don’t have that file, you’ll need to obtain it from the FS website. Or else download the file with the latest release of the version you‘re running, install it, and then do a repair from that file.

 

Note. A JAWS repair always takes at least a few minutes. It can take longer. You’ll be given percentage progress reports. Occasionally, it will come to an end only to announce that the operation was unsuccessful. Typically, running the repair a second time leads to positive results.

 

A Microsoft Office repair is similar, except you don’t need the file. In this case, start typing “programs” into your Windows search field. Probably the first item that comes up will be “Add or remove programs.” Press enter. Press the letter m until you land on Microsoft Office. Here, instead of pressing enter, press the applications key and arrow up or down to “change.” Press enter. The “repair” option will appear and you’ll be asked to confirm. There’ll be an announcement when the repair is complete, and you’ll be told to reboot.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Well both are worth a try.  How do I perform both types of repairs?

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Barbara,

 

I haven’t had this experience with Word or Outlook 2016. I have noticed that in Outlook only, spell-check will seem to stop suddenly. However, if I tab once, the dialog for the next spelling suggestion appears, telling me that JAWS simply hasn’t kept up with the spell-checker.

 

I wonder if you’ve tried a JAWS repair. If you’re unfamiliar with this procedure, please post again. It’s easy. Actually, so is a Microsoft Office repair. I’ve done both when one or the other starts misbehaving, sometimes with good results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Yes and it does not make any difference.  This has been going on for a while.  I cannot recall when it first began.  I have had a lot of things going on in my life plus what is going on in our country of course.  I just do not recall when it began, but it has been a while.

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

I’ve not experienced this.

Have you closed everything and rebooted?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:15 AM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I have 2 computers one has Office 2016 and the second has Office 2013.  I mostly use Word and outlook.  When I use the spell check , most, but not all the time the spell check dialogue is sluggish. 

 

I have the latest version of JAWS 2020 installed.  I have windows 10 on both computers.

 

This occurs in both Office programs I mentioned earlier.  Alt-tab away from the window and returning back does not solve anything.  Sometimes if I close JAWS and launch it again, it does help.  It does not seem to matter if I have other programs open as well or not.  Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Richard Turner
 

You should be able to share it so long as the other computers are connected on the same WiFi network.

You may want to use Microsoft Accessibility to help if you cannot figure it out.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

 

No it is just a USB printer

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

 

Is the printer supposed to also be a Wifi printer?

If so, you will need to consult the manufacturer’s instructions on how to set it up on the Wifi network.

 

If not, what Glen said is exactly what needs to happen.

Of course, consulting with the printer manufacturer is always useful.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

 

Also, you will need to go to the printer settings on the computer it is connected to and set it as a shared printer, or you can connect the printer to your router.

That is the best way.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM

Subject: Sharing a printer

 

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Glenn / Lenny
 

I once had a printer that was just a USB printer and I plugged it into my router and was able to connect to it over the network.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

No it is just a USB printer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

Is the printer supposed to also be a Wifi printer?

If so, you will need to consult the manufacturer’s instructions on how to set it up on the Wifi network.

 

If not, what Glen said is exactly what needs to happen.

Of course, consulting with the printer manufacturer is always useful.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

 

Also, you will need to go to the printer settings on the computer it is connected to and set it as a shared printer, or you can connect the printer to your router.

That is the best way.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM

Subject: Sharing a printer

 

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: Sharing a printer

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

No it is just a USB printer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

Is the printer supposed to also be a Wifi printer?

If so, you will need to consult the manufacturer’s instructions on how to set it up on the Wifi network.

 

If not, what Glen said is exactly what needs to happen.

Of course, consulting with the printer manufacturer is always useful.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sharing a printer

 

Also, you will need to go to the printer settings on the computer it is connected to and set it as a shared printer, or you can connect the printer to your router.

That is the best way.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:54 AM

Subject: Sharing a printer

 

We have three computers our home,  all connected by WiFi,  I have a printer connected to one by USB, I would like to be able to print from the other computers. I find conflicting instructions by searching Google. Can someone give me simple instructions on how to do this?


moderated Re: android vs ios.

 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 03:45 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:
but your experience does not mean there is no braille display support in Android.
And numerous discussions on the Google ANATAD group and the Android Accessibility group here on groups.io bear this out.
 
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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

Barbara Sheinbein
 

Well both are worth a try.  How do I perform both types of repairs?

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Barbara,

 

I haven’t had this experience with Word or Outlook 2016. I have noticed that in Outlook only, spell-check will seem to stop suddenly. However, if I tab once, the dialog for the next spelling suggestion appears, telling me that JAWS simply hasn’t kept up with the spell-checker.

 

I wonder if you’ve tried a JAWS repair. If you’re unfamiliar with this procedure, please post again. It’s easy. Actually, so is a Microsoft Office repair. I’ve done both when one or the other starts misbehaving, sometimes with good results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Yes and it does not make any difference.  This has been going on for a while.  I cannot recall when it first began.  I have had a lot of things going on in my life plus what is going on in our country of course.  I just do not recall when it began, but it has been a while.

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

I’ve not experienced this.

Have you closed everything and rebooted?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:15 AM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I have 2 computers one has Office 2016 and the second has Office 2013.  I mostly use Word and outlook.  When I use the spell check , most, but not all the time the spell check dialogue is sluggish. 

 

I have the latest version of JAWS 2020 installed.  I have windows 10 on both computers.

 

This occurs in both Office programs I mentioned earlier.  Alt-tab away from the window and returning back does not solve anything.  Sometimes if I close JAWS and launch it again, it does help.  It does not seem to matter if I have other programs open as well or not.  Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: android vs ios.

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi David, did you contact Google tech support about your issues? And without
knowing which handsets and Android versions it's difficult to know what
happened. I know for a fact that
Android users are successfully using braille displays with the OS. I
understand your frustration, but your experience does not mean there is no
braille display support in Android. Thanks, Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

Braille support on Android is nonexistent. I tried to get this display
working on 3 different Android devices, and got nothing. Yet the OS claimed
it was supported. Braille support on all operating systems is very badly
tested, and is of a poorer quality than speech support, which is sad times,
but at least it's usable on everything else except Android. So if you need
portable braille, you're pretty much stuck with Apple, sadly. Android has
some nice options, and I'd prefer it, but I like to read a lot, so that
doesn't work.


moderated Re: Possible bug w/J2020 and Edge

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Ed,

 

That sure makes sense. I have to admit it threw me for a loop initially. I’m sure FS will take care of it.

 

Thanks for writing,

Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible bug w/J2020 and Edge

 

Hi Norma,

Yes. I get the same behaviour and use the same workaround.

I wonder if this is a hangover from Google Chrome scripts now that Edge is chromium based as shift+f6 is the correct keystroke in that browser.

Cheers,

Ed

 

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, 12:03 Norma A. Boge, <naboge@...> wrote:

Hi group,

 

I’m using current versions of Jaws and Edge. When Edge has finished downloading a file, Jaws says “Download complete… Press Shift+F6 to cycle to the downloads bar area." This key combo puts me in the address bar, not the download area. I think the prompt should say F6 not shift f6. Anyone else noticed this?

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: Possible bug w/J2020 and Edge

Norma A. Boge
 

Yes, already submitted. Thanks.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible bug w/J2020 and Edge

 

Report it to Vispero via the Freedom Scientific website, should be not too difficult for them to fix this.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 4:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible bug w/J2020 and Edge

 

Hi Norma,

Yes. I get the same behaviour and use the same workaround.

I wonder if this is a hangover from Google Chrome scripts now that Edge is chromium based as shift+f6 is the correct keystroke in that browser.

Cheers,

Ed

 

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, 12:03 Norma A. Boge, <naboge@...> wrote:

Hi group,

 

I’m using current versions of Jaws and Edge. When Edge has finished downloading a file, Jaws says “Download complete… Press Shift+F6 to cycle to the downloads bar area." This key combo puts me in the address bar, not the download area. I think the prompt should say F6 not shift f6. Anyone else noticed this?

 

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

Jim Rawls
 

You aren't alone. I have the same issues as you. Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:15 AM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I have 2 computers one has Office 2016 and the second has Office 2013.  I mostly use Word and outlook.  When I use the spell check , most, but not all the time the spell check dialogue is sluggish. 

 

I have the latest version of JAWS 2020 installed.  I have windows 10 on both computers.

 

This occurs in both Office programs I mentioned earlier.  Alt-tab away from the window and returning back does not solve anything.  Sometimes if I close JAWS and launch it again, it does help.  It does not seem to matter if I have other programs open as well or not.  Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

Adrian Spratt
 

Barbara,

 

I haven’t had this experience with Word or Outlook 2016. I have noticed that in Outlook only, spell-check will seem to stop suddenly. However, if I tab once, the dialog for the next spelling suggestion appears, telling me that JAWS simply hasn’t kept up with the spell-checker.

 

I wonder if you’ve tried a JAWS repair. If you’re unfamiliar with this procedure, please post again. It’s easy. Actually, so is a Microsoft Office repair. I’ve done both when one or the other starts misbehaving, sometimes with good results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Yes and it does not make any difference.  This has been going on for a while.  I cannot recall when it first began.  I have had a lot of things going on in my life plus what is going on in our country of course.  I just do not recall when it began, but it has been a while.

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

I’ve not experienced this.

Have you closed everything and rebooted?

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:15 AM
To: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Spell Check Sluggish in Office 2016 and 2013

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I have 2 computers one has Office 2016 and the second has Office 2013.  I mostly use Word and outlook.  When I use the spell check , most, but not all the time the spell check dialogue is sluggish. 

 

I have the latest version of JAWS 2020 installed.  I have windows 10 on both computers.

 

This occurs in both Office programs I mentioned earlier.  Alt-tab away from the window and returning back does not solve anything.  Sometimes if I close JAWS and launch it again, it does help.  It does not seem to matter if I have other programs open as well or not.  Any ideas on how to resolve this?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


moderated Re: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files

Judy Redlich <jredlichspeaks@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who have given me suggestions. Really appreciate this
list.
Judy


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files

The ffmpeg command is very simple, just ffmpeg -i <mp4 file name> <wav file
name> and that's it. I have never tried this on Windows, so I have no idea
on how this works under that OS.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 19:17:42 -0400,
JM Casey wrote:

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Try audacity. You may have to install the ffmpeg library separately.
The latter has a command line interface that you could use and cut
audacity out of the equation (I think) but, it's a bit complicated. :D





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Redlich
Sent: June 26, 2020 6:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Converting mp4 files to either .wav or mp3 files



Which is the best free accessible software to convert mp4 audio files
in to
mp3 or wav files.



2nd question: Is there a software that strips mp4 audio from a video
mp4 file that converts them to either .wav or mp3?



Thanks.

Judy








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