Date   
Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Emre Rencber
 

I think Windows Defender is useless. Better than ever. It does nothing
but see harmless programs and allow viruses.

2020-03-04 14:30 GMT+03:00, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
<bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>:


Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are
based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even
be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of
the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close
ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are
true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and
totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?


Gerald



On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS
as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't
say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific
list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review
which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky.
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When

using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being
able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or
shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while.
I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update
but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an
earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key
reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary
when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the
system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more
accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for
many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am
willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a
while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from
Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other
things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you,
ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software
and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible..
The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its
problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the
PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the
software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface
seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for
less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno


Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

Rayn Darren
 

Yup, looks that way, thanks! 😊

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 4:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

 

Well, I've been using office 365 for a couple of years, and I just updated to the latest yesterday.  The only time I've ever had your problem is when my scroll lock got turned on.  If that isn't your problem, you should call fs tech support so they can figure out what it is.

 

 

On 3/3/2020 23:00, Rayn Darren wrote:

It sorta worked, it only read me one cell though, when I arrow through it doesn’t read anything else. Any other suggestions?

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

 

Check your scroll lock key, that'll do it every time.  Make sure it is off and then relaunch excel.

 

 

 

On 3/3/2020 18:07, Rayn Darren wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today, Excel stopped reading cells to me entirely. I’m able to use commands such as find, but it wont read anything in the cells once whatever I’m finding is actually found. Any ideas what’s going on?  I’m only having this problem in Excel btw, Word and Outlook work just fine and I don’t use any of the other products in the suite to test them out.

 

TIA,

Sarah

Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Mike B
 

 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.
 
Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:
 
To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM
Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Yep, I experience same with nVDA and SAPI5 voices. I do not use them with JAWS; I normally stick to eloquence if I am using speech, but lately am using braille only.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

When I press arrow it takes considerably longer to speak the message,.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Yeah; NVDA’s eSpeak module is inb-uilt and doesn’t requrie SAPI so I guess that is definitely source of your problem.

I wonder  if it is possible to edit some settings within windows itself to make it work better. When you say it is unresponsive – you are not talking about long pauses during speech itself right, but rather with delays to actuallys tart speaking?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I understand. Thank you for your help

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

 

Since the caps lock functions as the jaws key in laptop layout you have to hit caps lock twice to envoke the caps lock then twice more to turn it off.

 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx



On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

Yes, the capslock is toggled, but no speech prompt is given.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

has he tried pressing the caps lock key twice quickly? that should do it.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/4/20 01:52 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki said:
----------------------------------------

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot

use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS

key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno

 

 

----------------------------------------







Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Mike B
 


Maybe Capslock isn't set to, Speak, in Settings Center default all applications / Keyboard / Manage key labels...  Have your friend check there to check the Capslock setting.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

When you set up capslock as a JFW key in desktop layout the bug I mentioned occurs.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

That seems to work in laptop mode too.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?


it depends on the keyboard layout that is used.
i use the desktop layout and the capslock for the jaws key.
in this mode you have to press the capslock and alt left alt key to turn capslock on and off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?



Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…



Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz  wi tnicki AKA. Nuno














Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

When I press arrow it takes considerably longer to speak the message,.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Yeah; NVDA’s eSpeak module is inb-uilt and doesn’t requrie SAPI so I guess that is definitely source of your problem.

I wonder  if it is possible to edit some settings within windows itself to make it work better. When you say it is unresponsive – you are not talking about long pauses during speech itself right, but rather with delays to actuallys tart speaking?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Dave Durber
 

Hello there:
 
When you have JAWS laptop keyboard set to the laptop keyboard layout, you need to press the CAPS LOCK key twice quickly, in order to switch between Caps Lock,  on or off.
 
HTH
 
Dave durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:52 PM
Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Kimber Gardner
 

Since the caps lock functions as the jaws key in laptop layout you have to hit caps lock twice to envoke the caps lock then twice more to turn it off.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go on.—Annie Proulx


On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

Yes, the capslock is toggled, but no speech prompt is given.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

has he tried pressing the caps lock key twice quickly? that should do it.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/4/20 01:52 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki said:
----------------------------------------
Hi friends!
Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot
use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS
key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno


----------------------------------------








Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Yeah; NVDA’s eSpeak module is inb-uilt and doesn’t requrie SAPI so I guess that is definitely source of your problem.

I wonder  if it is possible to edit some settings within windows itself to make it work better. When you say it is unresponsive – you are not talking about long pauses during speech itself right, but rather with delays to actuallys tart speaking?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Problem with Internet email in outlook

Marty Hutchings
 

Yes, I didn't think that gmail was a POP server.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Internet email in outlook

i don't remember. but i think you have to log into your account, in settings
and change it from pop 3 to imap then you will be able to retrieve your
messages from the i map server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Internet email in outlook

I already have two step verification turned off. I also have the allow
third-party apps checked. Are you telling me it’s still probably best to put in
a new password? Thanks.




On Mar 3, 2020, at 10:42 AM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:




Hi,



Have you tried going your control panel and type in the search box “mail”
(without the quotes), then click on the email button. It brings you to a screen
with several buttons. Find the one that says repair using your tab key and
follow the screen prompts. HTH



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pramit
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 2:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Internet email in outlook





Hi Brenda,







If you have 2-step verification turned on, then with the current gmail password
you'll not be able to get your email through outlook.



To be able to receive gmail email through outlook, open your gmail account and
navigate to security and then Turn On Less Secure App Access



And create a password for your outlook and use that new generated password to
login to your outlook account.



Hope this helps







Pramit







On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:58 AM Brenda Emerson-Alford <blea417@...> wrote:



I am using jaws 2019 on windows 1903. I have Microsoft 2016. I am having a
problem with Outlook receiving my Gmail. It had been working before I traveled.
Even though I took my hotspot with me for Wi-Fi connection I was on able to
originally get my email through outlook on my laptop. Eventually I was able to
make it work through Gmail by responding to a critical alert and letting them
know it was me. Now that I am back I cannot get my email to come through on
Outlook. I continually receive a prompt to enter my password for my Gmail
account. It is properly entered. I hit OK and I get the same message over and
over again. I did go into Gmail and set up second verification using a text
message. I’m not sure if that is interfering with things now or not. I had the
problem before I set up the second verification process. I would love to hear
any thoughts on what to do. Thanks.




On Feb 29, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:



Hi,

I had to reset my computer today.

After the reset, I noticed that the mobile versions of the office apps, except
Outlook were installed.

Outlook wasn’t there, so I figured I’d give the win10 mail app another shot.



I’ve used it before, but its been at least a year, since I tried it last.



Its working well, but I can’t figure out how to change the order of accounts,
or if that’s even possible?



Thanks,



Jessica



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Yes, the capslock is toggled, but no speech prompt is given.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

has he tried pressing the caps lock key twice quickly? that should do it.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/4/20 01:52 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki said:
----------------------------------------
Hi friends!
Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot
use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS
key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno

----------------------------------------

Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I guess so. It’s behaving the same on JFW and ZDSR, while NVDA is OK. But that isn’t the solution, as it lacks functionality I need.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

When you set up capslock as a JFW key in desktop layout the bug I mentioned occurs.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

That seems to work in laptop mode too.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?


it depends on the keyboard layout that is used.
i use the desktop layout and the capslock for the jaws key.
in this mode you have to press the capslock and alt left alt key to turn capslock on and off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?



Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…



Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz wi tnicki AKA. Nuno

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

ratshtron
 

has he tried pressing the caps lock key twice quickly? that should do it.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 3/4/20 01:52 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki said:
----------------------------------------
Hi friends!
Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot toggle it on and off…

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz ¦wiêtnicki AKA. Nuno

----------------------------------------

Re: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Not sure, man; I’m surprised there would be such a noticeable difference. Maybe there is a non-SAPI eSpeak you can use? eSpeak is supposed to be one of the most responsive synths around but I guess if the SAPI protocol is slowing you down, that’s a whole separate thing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: March 4, 2020 4:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 4 driver in latest Jaws?

 

Hello!

I am using JAWS 2020, with a SAPI 5 voice, namely espeak. However I found out that its not as responsive as I can get. And since I am a fast-working person, that’s a nusicance for me. So I came up with an idea to try and stuff a SAPI4 driver into JFW, because SAPI 4 voices tend to be more responsive than SAPI5. Has anyone got any ideas on how to help me and fix my responsiveness problems?

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Glenn / Lenny
 

That seems to work in laptop mode too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?


it depends on the keyboard layout that is used.
i use the desktop layout and the capslock for the jaws key.
in this mode you have to press the capslock and alt left alt key to turn
capslock on and off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?



Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use
capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he
cannot
toggle it on and off…



Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz �wi�tnicki AKA. Nuno

Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Larry Wayland
 

You know, I have wondered the same thing.  That is one reason I use micro Soft’s protection.  I figure since it is free and is protecting their own property it would work well enough.

Larry

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Hell, I am not sure if I even trust American antivirus developers, I have wondered if they create the viruses they later fix.

But I too have had concerns about off-shore antivirus software developers.

I think any mention of such concerns are valid in any forum.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:19 AM

Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Ok I understand.

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

Hi all. You can also double tap the caps lock key if you are using the laptop lay-out.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?

it depends on the keyboard layout that is used.
i use the desktop layout and the capslock for the jaws key.
in this mode you have to press the capslock and alt left alt key to turn capslock on and off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cannot toggle capslock while in laptop mode?



Hi friends!

Lol its me again. I have recommended JFW to my friend, but he cannot use
capslock effectively as the JFW key! When he sets it as the JAWS key, he cannot
toggle it on and off…



Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz wi tnicki AKA. Nuno