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moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

David Csercsics
 

Yes, that's why I am possibly thinking it is user error. But it's odd because I didn't think my hardware was that nonstandard. What's the likely source of crashes? As far as I can tell, I have all the Windows updates and I could not find newer drivers for hardware than what Windows 10 ships with. Where  else does one look for instability?

moderated Re: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

John Gurd
 

Thanks Sieghard and Richard

Looks like it’s something peculiar to my set up.

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 July 2019 07:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Same here, I do use this feature on a fairly regular base sand have had no problems with it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Hi,

I just saved your message as a txt file running Outlook from Office 365 with latest Jaws 2019 and Windows 10 64 home build 1903.

The file name is

Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file.txt and it saved with no problems.

 

Richard

 

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:18 AM
To: 'jfw World List' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Hi

Has anyone tried saving  a email message as a text file from Outlook 365 using latest version of JFW 2019? My PC locks up. It is possible this was introduced by an Outlook update as I’m sure it was working fine a week or two ago.

 

John

 

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

 

Hi Richard,

No, currently the subscription model Jaws offers in the US is restricted to the US only. Let's hope it will be offered here in Canada very soon since I think it's a great idea and while I will continue to buy SMA's as long as they are offered, for people like David who never had Jaws or for people who are 2 or 3 or even more versions behind the subscription model is great.

By the way, David, just in case you didn't know this, the 40 minutes start counting from the first time you turn Jaws on, if you have Jaws set to load on startup and turn it off right away it still counts so if you did this and then turned it on 35 minutes later all you would get before it stops working and you have to reboot is 5 minutes.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

No bother.
I didn't realize the $90 subscription offer from Freedom Scientific wasn't good in Canada.
It sounds like you could be using one of the free screen readers when not using Jaws, which to avoid list administrative ire, I won't mention.
But for many things, yes, Jaws is still more powerful.

Perhaps you could still write Eric Damery at FS to say that in demo mode of Jaws 2019 your desktop shortcuts don't work. So far, none of their 100 or so beta testers can duplicate it and none of their tech staff can either. edamery@...

Thanks,
Richard


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

I don't think I can get a full version in Canada, at least not easily, since it costs as much as 2 computers. I'm just testing it to see if it's a worthwhile upgrade. I like the braille support mostly, though it was a pain to get to work, compared with other screen readers. I was aware that someone would rip me for saying demo mode, which is why I said maybe commenting on it wasn't worth my time. Back to lurk mode, and sorry for the inconvenience. I was only away from my keyboard for 15 minutes to walk the dog, which shouldn't have crashed my keyboard and braille display to the point I couldn't load another screen reader or do anything else with the system. But again, back to lurk mode, and I won't bother anyone here.

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

 

Hi David,

I am also in Canada and I would hazard a guess and say there is something else going on which causes your problems. I have been a Jaws user since the DOS days (starting in 1989) and since then I have had every single version of Windows except 8.1 and every single version of Jaws on dozens of computers over those 30 years. I have a business and work on my computer and with Jaws every day for 8 to 10 hours and then again I use it at night on my laptop at home. At my retail store I have Jaws on 4 computers and not one exhibits the problems you describe.
Does Jaws have issues? Yes, of course it does, but so does every other software program in the world and certainly every screenreader, but I could not have run my store for the last 20 years without it and one thing is for certain, under Windows 10 the Jaws cursor isn't as useful as it used to be under Windows 7, but I go literally days and even weeks without any major Jaws crashes, at least not so I have to resort to rebooting my computer.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

I don't think I can get a full version in Canada, at least not easily, since it costs as much as 2 computers. I'm just testing it to see if it's a worthwhile upgrade. I like the braille support mostly, though it was a pain to get to work, compared with other screen readers. I was aware that someone would rip me for saying demo mode, which is why I said maybe commenting on it wasn't worth my time. Back to lurk mode, and sorry for the inconvenience. I was only away from my keyboard for 15 minutes to walk the dog, which shouldn't have crashed my keyboard and braille display to the point I couldn't load another screen reader or do anything else with the system. But again, back to lurk mode, and I won't bother anyone here.

moderated Re: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Same here, I do use this feature on a fairly regular base sand have had no problems with it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Hi,

I just saved your message as a txt file running Outlook from Office 365 with latest Jaws 2019 and Windows 10 64 home build 1903.

The file name is

Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file.txt and it saved with no problems.

 

Richard

 

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:18 AM
To: 'jfw World List' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and JFW freezes when saving message as text file

 

Hi

Has anyone tried saving  a email message as a text file from Outlook 365 using latest version of JFW 2019? My PC locks up. It is possible this was introduced by an Outlook update as I’m sure it was working fine a week or two ago.

 

John

 

moderated Re: JAWS 19 installation on windows 10

cédric Paulet
 

Good afternoon,

 

The only way to solve this issue is the following:

Uninstall completely jaws and shared components.

Uninstall all other fs products installed on your system including all fs voices.

Remove all the freedom scientific folders located on your hard drive.

Remove all freedom scientific entries from the registry.

And reinstall Jaws from scratch and Jaws will work properly on the start menu of all versions of Windows from windows 7 to windows 10.

Best regards

Cedric

 

De : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> De la part de Sieghard Weitzel
Envoyé : jeudi 25 juillet 2019 16:55
À : main@jfw.groups.io
Objet : Re: JAWS 19 installation on windows 10

 

Hi Meesha,

 

Yes, unfortunately I have the same issue on one of my work PC’s, I can use any application just fine, but Jaws will not speak in the Windows search box, the start menu, the Settings app, control Panel, Calculator and other Windows applications.

I an on the Jaws beta team and know a few others have also experienced this, but it seems to be rare and an illusive issue to fix, for me this started over a year ago on this one PC and so far no Windows update, Jaws update, Windows repair or Jaws repair/reinstallation has fixed it. I am convinced that unfortunately the only way to fix this would be to reinstall Windows absolutely fresh and from scratch.

I am running the current Beta version of Jaws, but I think the June update already included an alternative way to display the start menu and for me Jaws now reads the start menu on this machine, but still not the Settings app, Windows search box or Calculator.

Open Jaws Settings Centre with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row, make sure default settings are loaded by pressing Control + Shift + D, then type “access” in the search box. Tab once and you should have 3 search results, one of them is the following:

Start menu: Access Out-of-Process not checked

Check that and tab to OK and save the new setting, then try the start menu.

Sorry I can’t provide an actual solution/fix for it, but so far I don’t think there is one except to reinstall Windows 10, then reinstall Jaws, all your applications and put back your data from backup.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

In the June update of Jaws

have also

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@...> On Behalf Of ARORA Meesha
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 19 installation on windows 10

 

Hello all,

I have recently joined this group and find the information shared very informative.

Hope someone can help me with the below query…

I am trying to install JAWS 19 in my laptop with Windows home”  basic after uninstalling JAWS 2018. The problem is JAWS is silent on various items on the PC like – on the start menu, it only speaks “Cortana” and nothing else. Then it is silent when I open system settings folder or open the option to connect to a network.

I have already performed the full recovery couple of times however the problem persists.

Has anybody faced a similar issue? I would really appreciate any insights to resolve this.

Many thanks

Meesha Arora

Re: chrome & feeds

clarence carter
 

I have done that, but I cannot get to the feeds directly. Is there a key for that? Should I consider a seperate reader? Thanks

moderated Re: FS Reader 3 Always Crashes

cédric Paulet
 

Good morning,

 

For the moment, the solution is using Jaws 2018 with fsreader 3.

Concerning fsreader 3 with Jaws 2019, this reader does not install with international version such French versions. Could FS fixe this problem?

Best regards

Cedric

 

De : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> De la part de Richard B. McDonald
Envoyé : mercredi 24 juillet 2019 19:14
À : jfw@groups.io
Objet : FS Reader 3 Always Crashes

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 and Windows 7.  FS Reader 3 always crashes when reading a daisy book, causing repeated restarts of JAWS and spotty navigation within the application.  Does anyone else have this problem?  Is there any solution?

 

Thanks,

Richard

moderated Re: Windows 2010 and Edge

Richard Turner
 

for the sake of clarity, it is Windows 10, not Windows 2010.
I suspect you do not have administrator rights; so you will likely have to contact the IT department and have them switch your browser to anything but Edge.
Also, to maybe help you understand the changes between Windows 7 and 10.
You should be able to tap the Windows key and type the name of the program you want to run and hit enter; but that won't help when you click on links; that is where the default browser needs to be changed.
You could try doing that yourself by hitting the Windows key and type default browser, which should put you in settings.
HTH,


Richard

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On Jul 27, 2019, at 4:43 PM, James English <james13english@...> wrote:

Hello,

IE is still installed on windows 10. Go into run (win+r) and type
iexplore, and you have an internet explorer window up.

On 7/27/19, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:
Very irresponsible of them to change all this without saving your jaws user
settings or consulting you. Are you logged o as and administrator or
standard user? you need to go to default program and switch your web
browser you are using to Internet explorer, Firefox or chrome. If your a
standard user all you can do is get a hold of your IT department and make
them fix it they have to get it working for you. When 10 is very accessible
once you get used to it but all your program should basically be the same as
before.

Randy Barnett owner of soundtique

On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
wrote:

Hello all,

I'm in panic mode. I have been out of my classroom for several weeks over
the summer and went back yesterday to begin preparing for the upcoming
semester.

Windows 2007 and IE was what I was using, but upon booting up I discovered
that all computers had been upgraded to Windows 2010 and Edge. While JAWS
did come up, it did not start announcing things as usual, so I didn't know
the log in screen was up, and after much tabbing and entering, eventually
got logged in. When I tried opening a program that used the internet, I
again could not get logged in because it wouldn't take my password. Usually
I hear *****when typing in the password field, but only heard the exact keys
I was typing. I couldn't get in anywhere other than my school email, which
is now Outlook 2016 instead of 2013. Again, here all configurations are
disturbed.

I have no idea how to even begin getting my setup functional for me again.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Marilyn











moderated Re: Windows 2010 and Edge

James English
 

Hello,

IE is still installed on windows 10. Go into run (win+r) and type
iexplore, and you have an internet explorer window up.

On 7/27/19, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:
Very irresponsible of them to change all this without saving your jaws user
settings or consulting you. Are you logged o as and administrator or
standard user? you need to go to default program and switch your web
browser you are using to Internet explorer, Firefox or chrome. If your a
standard user all you can do is get a hold of your IT department and make
them fix it they have to get it working for you. When 10 is very accessible
once you get used to it but all your program should basically be the same as
before.

Randy Barnett owner of soundtique

On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
wrote:

Hello all,

I'm in panic mode. I have been out of my classroom for several weeks over
the summer and went back yesterday to begin preparing for the upcoming
semester.

Windows 2007 and IE was what I was using, but upon booting up I discovered
that all computers had been upgraded to Windows 2010 and Edge. While JAWS
did come up, it did not start announcing things as usual, so I didn't know
the log in screen was up, and after much tabbing and entering, eventually
got logged in. When I tried opening a program that used the internet, I
again could not get logged in because it wouldn't take my password. Usually
I hear *****when typing in the password field, but only heard the exact keys
I was typing. I couldn't get in anywhere other than my school email, which
is now Outlook 2016 instead of 2013. Again, here all configurations are
disturbed.

I have no idea how to even begin getting my setup functional for me again.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Marilyn










moderated Re: Notifications Window Really Getting Annoying

David Bailes
 

Hi Steve,
just to add to what Bill has already said.
Focus assist is exactly what you're looking for. When it's on, banner notifications don't appear, but notifications still appear in the Action centre. This assumes that the writers of a program sending notifications are playing by the rules, but hopefully most will be doing so.
So just set focus assist to alarms only. As well as being able to do this in the settings app, you can also change the focus assist setting using the context menu of the action center icon in the notification area (system tray).
If you need any more information of focus assist, then in the notifications section of the following guide, there's a sub section on focus assist:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html

David.


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 02:29 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Right. But nobody can tell me how to turn it off yet keep things like the Actions Center active so I can read things when want to.

 

On 7/27/2019 4:05 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I have never used this feature but As far as I can tell it focus’s on any notification that appears whilst in another app

 

I think this may be on by default so this may be your issue or it may not

moderated Re: Notifications Window Really Getting Annoying

Bill White
 

Hi, Steve.

 

On Windows 10, Focus assist is a handy feature that allows you to minimize or completely stop notifications when you need to stay focused to get work done,

or you want to avoid interruptions during a presentation or while playing an exciting game.

 

Focus assist isn't a new feature with the

Windows 10 April 2018 update (version 1803),

and it was previously known as Quiet hours. However, with a new name, you're now getting new options to customize the experience, including the ability

to automatically pick those times when you don't want to be bothered with automatic rules.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notifications Window Really Getting Annoying

 

Yes, but what exactly *is* Focus Assist?

 

On 7/27/2019 10:11 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

It can be found in settings > system > focus assist

And choose the off radio button

Theres also other options you may wish to turn off

 

moderated Re: Notifications Window Really Getting Annoying

Steve Matzura
 

Yes, but what exactly *is* Focus Assist?


On 7/27/2019 10:11 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

It can be found in settings > system > focus assist

And choose the off radio button

Theres also other options you may wish to turn off


moderated Re: Windows 2010 and Edge

Randy Barnett
 

Very irresponsible of them to change all this without saving your jaws user settings or consulting you. Are you logged o as and administrator or standard user? you need to go to default program and switch your web browser you are using to Internet explorer, Firefox or chrome. If your a standard user all you can do is get a hold of your IT department and make them fix it they have to get it working for you. When 10 is very accessible once you get used to it but all your program should basically be the same as before.

Randy Barnett owner of soundtique

On Jul 27, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I'm in panic mode. I have been out of my classroom for several weeks over the summer and went back yesterday to begin preparing for the upcoming semester.

Windows 2007 and IE was what I was using, but upon booting up I discovered that all computers had been upgraded to Windows 2010 and Edge. While JAWS did come up, it did not start announcing things as usual, so I didn't know the log in screen was up, and after much tabbing and entering, eventually got logged in. When I tried opening a program that used the internet, I again could not get logged in because it wouldn't take my password. Usually I hear *****when typing in the password field, but only heard the exact keys I was typing. I couldn't get in anywhere other than my school email, which is now Outlook 2016 instead of 2013. Again, here all configurations are disturbed.

I have no idea how to even begin getting my setup functional for me again.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Marilyn

moderated Re: Windows 2010 and Edge

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Hello all,

I'm in panic mode. I have been out of my classroom for several weeks over the summer and went back yesterday to begin preparing for the upcoming semester.

Windows 2007 and IE was what I was using, but upon booting up I discovered that all computers had been upgraded to Windows 2010 and Edge. While JAWS did come up, it did not start announcing things as usual, so I didn't know the log in screen was up, and after much tabbing and entering, eventually got logged in. When I tried opening a program that used the internet, I again could not get logged in because it wouldn't take my password. Usually I hear *****when typing in the password field, but only heard the exact keys I was typing. I couldn't get in anywhere other than my school email, which is now Outlook 2016 instead of 2013. Again, here all configurations are disturbed.

I have no idea how to even begin getting my setup functional for me again.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Marilyn

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

David Csercsics
 

Yes, I am actually considering getting JAWS, I'm just trying to figure out what the best option is since I'm not in the US and they seem to be in some weird mode where they're changing their licenses, so I'm wondering what the most future proof option is as well as if it is worth the investment, which I think it may be given that I usually prefer braille, and their braille support is very good. Also I'm the sort that likes to tweak the hell out of things, so it may be worth the trouble for that as well, but I'm just exploring things right now. It's jut that the economics doesn't make sense at this point, because I'm not sure what's going on with their licenses, but I'm interested in testing to make sure that anyone who needs screen reading can get the functions they need. That's why I joined the list. I'd be happy to test betas because I have the time, and I'm not particularly loyal to any screen readers or brands in general, I'm just trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. But I'll contact Freedom Scientific and see what they can tell me.

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

Richard Turner
 

Thanks Dan,
But I can't use them at startup with no other software running. Very strange in deed.

I'll see if I can take a look at the Bible software, I've not heard of that one.

Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

Hi,
Yes, I get the same issue when JAWS and One Touch, a Bible software program, are running together. I then lose the ability to use any desktop shortcut keys. So far, this is the only time I have noted the problem.
JAWS has other issues with One Touch but the shortcut keys is the one that is common between us.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:45 PM
To: JFW main user list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

I've begun a conversation with Eric Damery from Freedom Scientific about the issue I have on my home computer with Jaws 2019 blocking my use of my desktop shortcut keys.
If anyone else is experiencing this, could you please write both Eric and myself? At this point, I'm a loan voice on this one.
Eric's email is EDamery@...

My address is: richardturner42@...




Richard

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moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

Richard Turner
 

No bother.
I didn't realize the $90 subscription offer from Freedom Scientific wasn't good in Canada.
It sounds like you could be using one of the free screen readers when not using Jaws, which to avoid list administrative ire, I won't mention.
But for many things, yes, Jaws is still more powerful.

Perhaps you could still write Eric Damery at FS to say that in demo mode of Jaws 2019 your desktop shortcuts don't work. So far, none of their 100 or so beta testers can duplicate it and none of their tech staff can either. edamery@...

Thanks,
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

I don't think I can get a full version in Canada, at least not easily, since it costs as much as 2 computers. I'm just testing it to see if it's a worthwhile upgrade. I like the braille support mostly, though it was a pain to get to work, compared with other screen readers. I was aware that someone would rip me for saying demo mode, which is why I said maybe commenting on it wasn't worth my time. Back to lurk mode, and sorry for the inconvenience. I was only away from my keyboard for 15 minutes to walk the dog, which shouldn't have crashed my keyboard and braille display to the point I couldn't load another screen reader or do anything else with the system. But again, back to lurk mode, and I won't bother anyone here.

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

David Csercsics
 

I don't think I can get a full version in Canada, at least not easily, since it costs as much as 2 computers. I'm just testing it to see if it's a worthwhile upgrade. I like the braille support mostly, though it was a pain to get to work, compared with other screen readers. I was aware that someone would rip me for saying demo mode, which is why I said maybe commenting on it wasn't worth my time. Back to lurk mode, and sorry for the inconvenience. I was only away from my keyboard for 15 minutes to walk the dog, which shouldn't have crashed my keyboard and braille display to the point I couldn't load another screen reader or do anything else with the system. But again, back to lurk mode, and I won't bother anyone here.

moderated Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

Richard Turner
 

As Maria pointed out, demo mode only works for 40 minutes and you have to reboot your system.
If you ever get a full version and can still duplicate the shortcut keys issue, please contact Freedom Scientific and also let me know.
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 and desktop shortcut keys

You do realize that demo mode only works for 40 minutes at a time?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/27/2019 10:39 AM, David Csercsics wrote:
I have noticed many issues with JAWS, that make it nearly unusable for
me. I'm just running it in demo mode, so maybe I shouldn't comment, as
I doubt Freedom Scientific would like that kind of feedback. But 2 or
3 times now I have returned to my keyboard to find it unusable after
the system had been idle for awhile. It also took out the braille
display. I can duplicate the shortcut key problem as well, though it
seems to happen randomly. Sometimes the keyboard driver will crash if
I type too fast, and this is also true of the braille translator. This
happens frequently enough that it can be quite annoying. I have other
issues, some of which are keyboard related, but those are the ones
that would be related to your shortcut issue.