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moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

David Ingram
 

I am using webmail.  I plan on changing that soon.  I plan to go back to using outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sep 3, 2019 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Then why is he bottom posting?
Most likely because he's using a webmail interfact that is behaving atypically (at least these days).  Gmail's web interface has placed you above the quoted material, which is initially not displayed unless you hit the triple dot button to make it do so) for as long as I can remember.

Until or unless we get an answer as to exactly what's being used this is all just random shots in the dark.  We need to know what webmail.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated FW: Help gather accessibility data

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello,

 

Below is a few links to survey’s for digital accessibility. I have taken similar survey’s in the past.

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 

 

 

From: Vivienne Conway <v.conway@...>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 5:19 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@...
Subject: Help gather accessibility data

 

Dear Colleagues,

 

Firstly, please accept my apologies for any cross-posting if you have already seen this request.  Secondly, please be aware that this is not a W3C or WAI activity, but I have cleared it with EOWG to distribute to you as we plan to share the results with everyone when the results are in.

 

We are conducting research about changes in behaviour around digital accessibility. There are two surveys, one is to get an update on the user experience, whether people are letting website owners know of website accessibility issues and if the issues are resolved, and the other one is much needed update to organisational attitudes. 

 

Would you be willing to complete both surveys and be willing to help with distribution? There is no commercial content in the surveys and nothing identifiable will be shared. We are actually hoping we get thousands of responses – it is ambitious, I know.  People don’t really like completing surveys, but at the moment I haven’t been able to get this data anywhere so thought we’d just do some research to collect the data we need for our research papers. The surveys are very short – only 3-4 minutes average.

 

Here are the survey links.

 

Understanding the Digital User Experience

 

Digital Accessibility for Organisations

 

Here are some other methods to share:

 

 

 

Thank you so much for your help with this project.  We will make the data available to everyone once it is collated, so that you can use it to further the case for digital accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Dr Vivienne Conway, F ACS (CP)

Director

 

Web Key IT Pty Ltd

PO BOX 681 Wanneroo, WA 6946

Phone:    (08) 9206 3987

Mobile:   0415 383 673  

Email:       v.conway@...

Website:  www.webkeyit.com

 

 

 

This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the named addressee. It is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact me immediately by reply email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. This email is subject to copyright, no part of it should be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Web Key IT Pty Ltd.

 

 

 

moderated Outlook 2016 Message List View Header Problem Has Returned

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

You may recall that yesterday, I mentioned a problem with Jaws not reading the full headers in an e-mail when going through a list view on my Outlook e-mail folders.

 

I now get only the subject line, the time of the message, and the size.  The date of the message is missing.

 

My folder pane is set to normal, and my reading pane is set to off.

 

Interestingly, if I shut down and re-boot my computer, messages are listed normally for a while, but eventually, the partial listing issue returns.

 

I am convinced that this has something to do with a recent Offidce 365 update, since the problem has only occurred for the past few days.

 

I’d appreciate knowing if anyone else has experienced this issue, and what you have done as a more permanent fix.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2019 on this Windows 10 PC.  My windows 10 version is version 1809.

 

Thank you!

 

Tom Behler

 

moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Andy
 

I generally use my phone and the instacart app, but I have looked at the web site and it appears to be accessible as far as viewing stores in your area, etc. but I have not placed an order using the PC.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:49 PM
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 

moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Onwardbob
 

I do, using J-2019 and either Google Chrome or Firefox. It won't work with
I.E.

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Hello All,



Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart?



Tim Ford

moderated Re: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

You may get different opinions on your question.  For me, it was very tough to use it on my computer.  It was much easier on my IPhone.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 4:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 

moderated Can I use Instacart on my laptop and with JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

Has anyone used JAWS on a PC to access Instacart? 

 

Tim Ford

 

moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 04:13 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Then why is he bottom posting?
Most likely because he's using a webmail interfact that is behaving atypically (at least these days).  Gmail's web interface has placed you above the quoted material, which is initially not displayed unless you hit the triple dot button to make it do so) for as long as I can remember.

Until or unless we get an answer as to exactly what's being used this is all just random shots in the dark.  We need to know what webmail.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Then why is he bottom posting?
I doubt that David is doing that on purpose.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply
(usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the
body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to
press control+home first.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need
to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into,
first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the
edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set
to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control +
home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my
question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the
message?







.




moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

 

Which brings me back to my initial question:   What webmail are we talking about here?

Clearly it matters, as the behavior that Mr. Ingram seems to be having is, in my experience, atypical.   It is hard to give accurate advice without knowing the actual operating scenario.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

JM Casey
 

That obviously isn't the case for David, though. The original messages are there, and his cursor is being placed at the *bottom*. I don't think he's pressing ctrl-end. So either he has to change a setting or, indeed, press ctrl-home before he starts typing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: September 3, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply (usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to press control+home first.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into, first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control + home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?







.

moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Mario
 

not true. in an email client, after invoking the action to reply
(usually pressing control+r), you should be placed at the top of the
body field where you can start typing your reply. there's no need to
press control+home first.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 3:16 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?
David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need
to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into,
first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the
edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set
to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control +
home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my
question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the
message?







.

moderated Re: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

Glenn / Lenny
 

David,
If your settings are set to not include the original message, you need to change that.
Then, when you get into the body that you are planning on typing into, first press control + home, and that should send you to the top of the edit field.
Then your message will be on top as it should be.
This is true too for eMail clients, if you don't have your settings set to put the message you are replying to at the bottom, press control + home before typing.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?


Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?

moderated test message 1

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

 

moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...>
Sent: Sep 3, 2019 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any
context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another
list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job
easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If
someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up
top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though,
having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back
through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far.
Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each
and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.


how can I make sure that messages are being read? Hi i'm using webmail which makes a difference in whether you're receiving messages in a specific mannor. I know that when I had outlook, I never had these types of problems.

moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

JM Casey
 

It *is* kind of amoot point anyway as it turns out, the person who originally started the conversation down this path is sending messages with no original content. :P

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 3, 2019 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.

moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Cristóbal
 

Oh my God. I got into this thread late and was actually interested in the original topic. So much for that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM

Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

 

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

moderated how can i make sure that my replies are beeing read?

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'm using a webmail program to write messages, my question is how do I make sure that the replies are at the top of the message?

moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Tyler Wood
 

On 2019-09-03 1:30 p.m., Randy Barnett wrote:

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

The difference is that Brian provides context for his messages. If someone decides to delete messages because they are not responded to up top, that is completely their choice. On a high traffic list, though, having to delve through 20 quoted messages is worse than going back through the list archives and viewing each individual message, by far. Searching for a specific keyword is made pointless by the fact that each and every message that is responded to with that keyword also is displayed.

moderated Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

Glenn / Lenny
 


I don't think that people intentionally delete everything, I think that some folks have not figured out how to set their eMail client to show original message, or they turned that off, not knowing the significance.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: top posting (was re: MalwareBytes Adware Tool

I hate it when people delete everything so that there is not any context to their post. Brian is in charge of the archive on another list so that does influence his opinion. Making someone Else's job easier is not as important as understanding the message.

On 9/3/2019 9:26 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote: