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moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

nope, the processor can support up to 32 GB and the motherboard has 4 slots.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:44 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

    You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

    Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
    may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
    wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
    that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
    touching the chassis.

    Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
    is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

    The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
    cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

    HTH.

    You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
    can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

    HTH.

    Glenn

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>

    *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

    *Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

    *Subject:*Laptop updating

    Good afternoon all,

    With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
    laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
    although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
    turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
    in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
question...

    When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
    7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
    a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
    I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
    built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
    this more than I should attempt?

    Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
    from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
    of Jaws 2019.

    Thanks for all comments,

    Rick











.

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mike B
 


Hi Mario,
 
I've never run into the problem you're pointing out, but I believe the website has a more options selection also.  The best way to find out is to experiment by running a scan to see what results you come up with.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


> when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
> capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
> capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
> modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
> replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
> Subject: Laptop updating
> As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
> www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
> and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
> your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
> have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
> For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
> Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
> there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.
>
> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
> I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
> that somebody screwed up.
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Laptop updating
>
> Thank you.
>
> I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?
>
> *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
> Lenny
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: Laptop updating
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.
>
> Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
> laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.
>
> It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
> and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.
>
> The RAM cover is usually smaller
>
> The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
> stick or sticks.
>
>     You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.
>
>     Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
>     may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
>     wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
>     that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
>     touching the chassis.
>
>     Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
>     is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.
>
>     The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
>     cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.
>
>     HTH.
>
>     You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
>     can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.
>
>     HTH.
>
>     Glenn
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
>
>     *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
>     *Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM
>
>     *Subject:*Laptop updating
>
>     Good afternoon all,
>
>     With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
>     laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
>     although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
>     turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
>     in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
> question...
>
>     When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
>     7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
>     a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
>     I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
>     built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
>     this more than I should attempt?
>
>     Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
>     from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
>     of Jaws 2019.
>
>     Thanks for all comments,
>
>     Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 

It could be that 8GB is the computer's capacity.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating


when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial. You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer. This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it. I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work. The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my
question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick





moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

when the scan results with recommended modules but none have the
capacity that is wanted, is there a way to specify or see higher
capacity modules? for example, the results show 2 2 GB and 2 4 GB
modules but you want at least 2 single 8 GB modules to purchase as a
replacement for the 2 4 GB modules in the PC.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mario
 

Samsung makes and tests their own SSD', so the quality is there.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 6:08 PM
Subject: Laptop updating
As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what
your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you
have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the
Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure
there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care. Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is
that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Glenn /
Lenny
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the
laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws
and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM
stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who
may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The
wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe
that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without
touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there
is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a
cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you
can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Rick Mladek <mailto:hmladek@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

*Subject:*Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my
laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and
although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of
turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting
in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older
7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have
a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done?
I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and
built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is
this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information
from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update
of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 


In terms of RAM, and if it's available for a machine, I like ECC RAM.
Error Correcting Code, because data corruption often happens and this can save from data loss.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

I too prefer Samsung but I have used a Crucial SSD and it was fine. In everyday use it was fast but the Samsung was faster in file transfers and testing. If your laptop has a M2 NVME port use it! you can get transfer rates over 2 terabytes per second! My Samgsung 960 Pro read at 2.5TBs and wrote at 2.3TBs. Win 10 loads in less than 10 seconds!

On 9/17/2019 3:08 PM, Mike B wrote:

As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
 
 
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
 
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

Thanks for all comments,

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Randy Barnett
 

I too prefer Samsung but I have used a Crucial SSD and it was fine. In everyday use it was fast but the Samsung was faster in file transfers and testing. If your laptop has a M2 NVME port use it! you can get transfer rates over 2 terabytes per second! My Samgsung 960 Pro read at 2.5TBs and wrote at 2.3TBs. Win 10 loads in less than 10 seconds!

On 9/17/2019 3:08 PM, Mike B wrote:

As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
 
 
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
 
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

 

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Rick Mladek
 

Yes, I also bet Dell would know since purchased from them... or would hope so lol...

 

Thanks all...

 

Rick

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

I have bought it at:

Crucial Memory has a buying guide that ensures that you get the right kind for your computer.

There may be others that do this as well.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Thank you.

 

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Mike B
 


As far as RAM goes, I would go with Crucial.  You can go to,
 
 
and run a Crucial scan of your computer.  This scan will tell you what your motherboard maximum amount is, also tell you how many slots you have and give you the recommended RAM specifically for your motherboard.
 
For the SSD, I've never used a Crucial SSD, but I've always used the Samsung brand and have had nothing but good luck with it.  I'm sure there other excellent choices, but this is only my 2¢ worth.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

 

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 05:38 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Crucial Memory has a buying guide
Better yet is using their system scanner.   I have yet to ever have it give me the wrong recommendation after having interrogated the hardware on any system.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 


I have bought it at:
Crucial Memory has a buying guide that ensures that you get the right kind for your computer.
There may be others that do this as well.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

Thank you.

 

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Rick Mladek
 

Thank you.

 

I’ll let you know how it goes. Any referrals on the ram sticks and sd HD?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop updating

 

Hi Rick,

I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.

Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.

It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.

The RAM cover is usually smaller

The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.

Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.

Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.

The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.

HTH.

You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.

HTH.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM

Subject: Laptop updating

 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 


Rick,
Also, be sure to unplug the power, take out the battery, and tap the power button a few times to discharge any static current before proceeding.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Randy Barnett
 

It depends on the laptop. some are very easy to get to the RAM and HD bays some are almost impossible. Based on my experience with dell laptops though you should be able to do this yourself. There should be a screw or two holding a panel in place on the bottom of the laptop. One for the HD bays and one for the RAM. Sometimes you can get to both under one panel. it varies from laptop to laptop.

Just put in the new SSD and leave the old HD disconnected while you install win 10 then connect it and you will have access to everything on it and can delete all the old windows directories.

On 9/17/2019 1:07 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: Laptop updating

Glenn / Lenny
 


Hi Rick,
I have changed many laptop HDs and RAM sticks.
Usually there are two separate covers for these on the underside of the laptop, but sometimes there is just one cover.
It will have screws to remove, and you will have to feel for the screws and then the patterns of seams to figure out which is which.
The RAM cover is usually smaller
The RAM will have wire on the sides of the RAM that hold in the RAM stick or sticks.

You typically squeeze the sides of the RAM to lift it out.
Forget the idea of a wrist strap, as that is for sighted folk who may not rest their arm on the chassis while doing the work.  The wrist strap is to discharge static from your body, but I believe that it would not be possible to non-visually do this without touching the chassis.
Make note of the notch in the RAM stick along the contacts, as there is a bump that it lines up with in the slot that can be felt.
The HD will pull away from where it slides in, there is usually a cover to unscrew from that before sliding it out.
HTH.
You may want to feel the parts you are putting in carefully, so you can compare them for orientation in the motherboard.
HTH.
 
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: Laptop updating

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Laptop updating

Rick Mladek
 

Good afternoon all,

 

With the talk regarding windows 7 and 10, I recently noticed my laptop is windows 7, as well. I will update this to windows 10 and although being a Dell XPS 15Z model, it is as slow as a herd of turtles comparing to my desktop which has a SD HD. I’ll be putting in a SD HD, upgrading the ram from 4 to 8 and therefore, my question...

 

When I take the SD HD and have it as main and then use the older 7200 HD as a back-up drive, is this more difficult and I should have a computer store do the work or is is all this work able to be done? I will have unprofessional sighted assistance and have worked on and built tower systems but with the laptop and the smaller size, is this more than I should attempt?

 

Also, I would be attempting to do all the shuffling of information from the old hard drive to the new SD with the latest version/update of Jaws 2019.

 

Thanks for all comments,

 

Rick

moderated Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

Loreal Lavigna
 

Thanks I really appreciate it!  I’m relearning things with Windows 10 since I haven’t used it in about 18months, not since I was working for a company who used it exclusively.  I’ve been a Windows 7 PC for most of my personal/professional use from 2013 through 2019, until I wound up having to upgrade to Windows 10 as Windows 7 is being phased out and completely unsupported as of January 2020.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

To access the Action area press windows key plus A.

To access the system tray/ notification area press Windows plus B.

To expand the notification area  press space on the notification cheveron button after pressing windows B.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Loreal Lavigna
Sent: 17 September 2019 05:17
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 notification area/actions area shortcuts

 

Wondering if there are any shortcuts in order using a windows 10 laptop?  I have all updates installed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

moderated JAWS2020 Beta Download Link + What's New

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
Below is the link for the website where you can find the Beta report form and other Beta info pluss the what's new in the JAWS 2020 Beta, release.  Below the what's new info is the direct download link for the Jaws 2020 Beta download link.
 
 
What's New in JAWS 2020 Public Beta
 
Thank you for participating in the JAWS 2020 public beta testing. This page provides all the necessary details that you need to know and at the end of
the page, you will find links to download JAWS 2020 Beta now. Please take a few moments to review this information and take advantage of the beta report
form link to provide Freedom Scientific your feedback during the public beta.
 
list of 4 items
• FSCast web page,
provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in the upcoming JAWS 2020 release.
• New Features in JAWS 2020
• Download the JAWS public beta
• JAWS 2020 Beta Report Form
list end
 
Quick Notes About the Public Beta
 
Thank you for your help during the public beta period. Please note that this is beta software, and its accuracy and reliability are not guaranteed. You
should not rely exclusively on the beta software for any reason.
 
list of 6 items
• This JAWS 2020 public beta is available in English, Spanish, German, French, French Canadian, Dutch, Hebrew, Brazilian Portuguese, Russian, Arabic, Danish,
Hungarian, Swedish, Italian, and Norwegian.
• Please note that while the final release of JAWS 2020 will be a Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA) upgrade, this public beta version will run for anyone
with a license that provides access to JAWS or Fusion 2019.
• If you do not have JAWS or Fusion 2019 authorization, you can still install the public beta version and run it using 40-Minute Demo mode.
• This public beta version will expire later this year. To use JAWS without interruption, you must continue to update to later versions of the public beta
and then to the final release.
• You do not have to remove earlier versions of JAWS to install the JAWS 2020 public beta. Your previous versions will continue to function when you have
JAWS 2020 installed, just as each new major version release of JAWS has in the past.
• Migrating user settings from a prior version of JAWS should work correctly after installing the JAWS 2020 public beta. If you do experience any issues
with migrating settings, reboot your computer, start JAWS 2020, and try the migrate process again. To migrate settings at any time, press INSERT+J to open
the JAWS window, open the Utilities menu, expand the Import/Export submenu, and choose Migrate Settings.
list end
 
Technical Support During the Public Beta
 
While in public beta, general technical support of JAWS 2020 is not available using our direct support phone lines or email. However, you may use normal
support lines in order to resolve any problems you experience related to installation or authorization using the Public Beta. For all other issues you
may discover, we ask that you send feedback directly to Freedom Scientific using the
JAWS 2020 Beta Report Form web page.
Please bookmark the report page in your web browser so that you can easily locate it if you need technical assistance. Also, please submit one problem
per report.
 
If reporting issues with Microsoft Office, please include the full version number. For example, 16.0.10730.20102. To locate this information, press ALT+F,
D, A from within Office.
 
New Features Added in JAWS 2020
 
The following features are new to JAWS 2020.
 
Reduced Double Speaking of Form Control Prompts
 
When navigating and filling out forms on the web, it has become increasingly common for web page authors to include the prompt inside the control in addition
to assigning an accessible Tag for the control. While non-screen reader users only see the written prompt, those using a screen reader are getting both
the Prompt and accessible Tag in Speech as well as Braille if a display is in use. Often times, the web page author has assigned the same text for each,
so it appears the screen reader is double speaking. In JAWS 2020, we have greatly reduced the amount of double speaking of form controls as you navigate
using speech and Braille by comparing the prompt and these tags, and only speaking or brailling them both if they are different.
 
Note: For Public Beta 1, only the double speaking of prompts has been completed. The Braille representation will be corrected for Public Beta 2 in early
October.
 
Zoom Meeting Scripts Added for an Improved Experience
 
Thanks to Hartgen Consulting, basic scripts for Zoom are now included directly in JAWS and Fusion to improve the experience when attending Zoom Meetings.
This platform is used for our quarterly FS Open Line program as well as the free training webinars we hold each month. These scripts offer a more pleasant
experience by giving more control over what you hear, without interrupting the flow as users enter or leave the room or make comments. Press INSERT+H to
view a list of JAWS keystrokes available in Zoom such as turning off alerts, speaking recent chat messages, and more. You can also press INSERT+W to view
a list of Zoom hot keys.
 
Hartgen    Consultancy
 also offers more advanced scripts for Zoom Pro if you are interested.
 
Enhanced JAWS and Invisible Cursor Support for Windows 10 Universal Apps
 
For years, JAWS users have relied on the JAWS cursor (NUM PAD MINUS) and Invisible cursor (NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly) to review and interact with areas
in an application where the PC cursor cannot go. This includes reading textual information which is on-screen but not focusable, and interacting with controls
which are only accessible using a mouse as the mouse pointer will follow the JAWS cursor and NUM PAD SLASH and NUM PAD STAR will perform a left and right
click. However, the Off-Screen Model (OSM) which has traditionally been used to support the JAWS and Invisible cursors is becoming less and less available
as newer technology such as UIA, found especially in Windows universal apps like the calculator or the Windows Store, is now being used exclusively for
accessing screen content. This results in the JAWS and Invisible cursors becoming unusable when attempting to navigate in those windows. All you would
hear in those cases was "blank" as you reviewed the screen. This is because the modern technology currently in use is not able to be captured by the traditional
Off-Screen Model. In those cases, the only solution was using the Touch Cursor, something most users are not as familiar with.
 
JAWS 2020 now detects when focus is in an application where the OSM is not supported and will automatically use the new JAWS Scan cursor in these situations.
You will use all of the same navigation commands as you would with the traditional JAWS cursor or the Invisible cursors.
 
For example, if you open the Calculator or Windows Store in JAWS 2020 and press NUM PAD MINUS, you will now hear JAWS announce "JAWS Scan Cursor" as these
are apps that do not support the OSM. You can then use the ARROW keys like you always have done to move by character, word, line, as well as INSERT+UP
ARROW to read the current line, or PAGE UP, PAGE DOWN, HOME, and END. The mouse pointer will also continue to follow as it always has. The only difference
is that the cursor does not move from top to bottom or left to right. Instead, it moves by element the way the developer laid out the app.
 
While this works in many places, there are still some areas where more work by Freedom Scientific is required. For instance, if you use Office 365, and
try to read your Account version information with the JAWS cursor commands, it is still not possible to navigate and read in these places. That work is
underway and we plan to have an update for this area in the 2020 version soon. Stay tuned.
 
Convenient OCR Updated to Use the Latest OmniPage
 
The recognition engine used by the JAWS Convenient OCR feature has been updated to Kofax OmniPage 20, formerly owned by Nuance. This offers greater accuracy
when recognizing the text from on-screen images as well as text from images captured with a PEARL camera or scanner.
 
For users needing to OCR using Hebrew or Arabic, these languages will be included in later public beta builds or by the final release at the latest. Once
these languages are working, they will be installed with any English or Western European download of JAWS and Fusion.
 
Virtual Cursor Toggle Now Tab Specific in Google Chrome
 
Today, there are many web apps where using the Virtual Cursor is not the best approach. An example of this can be seen if you use Gmail in the Chrome Browser.
In these cases, it makes sense to toggle the Virtual Cursor off by pressing INSERT+Z and then use this application with the PC cursor. Many users also
regularly open multiple tabs (CTRL+T) so they can easily access different sites such as GMail plus one or two other pages by moving between the open tabs
using CTRL+TAB. This can become frustrating as you need to constantly press INSERT+Z to get the right cursor in use as you switch between tabs.
 
Beginning with version 2020, we are introducing an option to help JAWS automatically remember the state of the Virtual Cursor for each tab once you set
it. It will also announce whether the Virtual Cursor is on or off as you move between various tabs. Once you close the browser, or restart JAWS, it will
default back to its default behavior so you will need to set this each day as you use it.
 
For the Public Beta, this feature is not turned on by default. It will be enabled by default In later Beta builds. If you would like to try it out in the
first Beta, do the following:
 
list of 5 items
1. Press INSERT+6 to open Settings Center.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default file.
3. Type "Tab" in the search field.
4. Press DOWN ARROW until you locate "Virtual Cursor On/Off based on Browser Tabs."
5. Press the SPACEBAR to enable the option and then select OK.
list end
 
Note: If you choose to enable this feature in public beta 1, you will hear the announcement of the Virtual Cursor state in certain situations as you navigate.
This will be corrected in subsequent builds.
 
Contracted Braille Input Enhancements
 
For ElBraille users as well as those who regularly use a Braille display with their PC, JAWS 2020 offers significant improvements when typing in contracted
Braille. In particular:
 
list of 5 items
• You should now be able to enter and edit text in numbered and bulleted lists in Word, WordPad, Outlook, and Windows Mail.
• Contracted Braille input is now supported in more applications including PowerPoint and TextPad.
• Improved Contracted Braille input in WordPad, especially when editing a numbered or bulleted list created in Word and opened in Wordpad. This includes
properly handling wrapped items which previously showed the number or bullet on subsequent wrapped lines, rather than indenting the text.
• Improved Contracted Braille input in Chrome, Google docs, and other online editors which can create bulleted and numbered lists.
• Typing rapidly using Contracted Braille in Microsoft Office as well as other applications should no longer result in text becoming scrambled.
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General Changes in Response to Customer Requests
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• While browsing the internet, JAWS will no longer announce "Clickable" by default as you move to various content.
• You should no longer hear the message "Press JAWS Key+ALT+R to hear descriptive text" as you navigate form controls and certain other elements on the
web.
• By default in Word and Outlook, JAWS will no longer announce "Alt SHIFT F10 to adjust Auto Correction" when you move to something that was auto corrected
previously.
• JAWS and Fusion will no longer gather a count of all the objects, misspellings, grammatical errors, and so on when a document is opened in Word. This
will enable documents to load much faster, including very large documents containing a lot of these items. You can always press INSERT+F1 for an overview
of what the document contains.
• Improved responsiveness when closing Word after saving a document.
• The AutoCorrect Detection option, previously only available in the Quick Settings for Word, can now also be changed in the Quick Settings for Outlook
(INSERT+V).
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Download JAWS 2020
 
Note: You will need an Internet connection during the JAWS install.
 
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1. Using the link at the end of this procedure, download and save the JAWS setup file to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for
example, your Downloads folder.
2. Run the executable and follow the instructions to install JAWS. The setup automatically detects whether you are using 64 or 32-bit and also installs
the correct language that matches your operating system language. If this is a new installation, you can install a different language by selecting the
Options button on the first setup screen and then choosing the language you want from the list.
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JAWS 2020.1909.25  - September 2019
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For system administrators, use the
Offline Installer for Secure Environments
 page to download a version of JAWS for installing on computers with restricted Internet access.
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JAWS2020 Beta download link for 32 & 64 bit:
 
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that somebody screwed up.

moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
Brian, don’t assume it’s user error.
Well, too late on that.  I didn't say it definitely was, either.

In any case, when I think "older versions" of Word 2007 is already long and far away in that camp.   I am not even going to make an attempt to recall what Word 2003 or older did, even though I used those.

This is one of the reasons that updating software, including Office, in an at least semi-timely (meaning, within a couple of years after initial major new release) manner is essential.  There are changes like you've described, and that you clearly remember and remember well, that most will not because they become "ancient history."  Being a part of a shared transition experience where many people are having the same issue(s) at the same time is a far easier thing than having to face these alone, years after many have forgotten that they even occurred.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

Many of the insights of the saint stem from his experience as a sinner.

         ~ Eric Hoffer

moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Van Lant, Robin
 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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