Date   
moderated Re: braille display going to sleep during windows login

Michelle's Home Emails
 

hi Richard 

Michelle here, 

Thank you for response. 
i think the lady has a humanware brailleiant 40 cell about 12 months old with Jaws 2019 pro windows 10 

Hope this helps? 
Michelle 



On 20 Sep 2019, at 12:23 pm, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Which braille display does she have?
What software is she using?


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@...> wrote:

hi list

MY friend who is Deafblind is having problems where her braille display goes to sleep too quickly during login. Any way how to fix this so that it give a longer time to read information?  Jays 2019 pro windows vers 10


Kind regards
Michelle



moderated Pinning a Message

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

Using Microsoft Outlook, is there a way, using JAWS, that you can pin a message to the top of your inbox?  If so, how?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

moderated Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

Lino Morales
 

Oh goody! Thanks Dave. I was in the FS Open Line tonight. Glad to hear the changes that are comming.

On 9/19/2019 8:02 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

The Windows 10 Mail app works a lot better with JAWS 2020!

First of all, the Mail app no longer crashes while using JAWS 2020!

That is huge!

The signature field is accessible with JAWS 2020,  and it is much more snappy when typing a message.

Also, messages read much better!

Yes, JAWS 2020 actually makes the Mail app a choice that will be a great one!

Glad you asked!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi kids. Has anyone played with the mail app using JAWS 2020? Anything

new? Any changes? Thanks.

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

inamuddin khan
 

To me, signature is still not accessible with JAWS 2020 beta.

Is it because I’m using 40 minutes mode?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi!

The Windows 10 Mail app works a lot better with JAWS 2020!

First of all, the Mail app no longer crashes while using JAWS 2020!

That is huge!

The signature field is accessible with JAWS 2020,  and it is much more snappy when typing a message.

Also, messages read much better!

Yes, JAWS 2020 actually makes the Mail app a choice that will be a great one!

Glad you asked!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi kids. Has anyone played with the mail app using JAWS 2020? Anything

new? Any changes? Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

Melissa Stott
 

Thanks so much David for this info.  I’ll be looking forward to this update!

 

                Melissa

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi!

The Windows 10 Mail app works a lot better with JAWS 2020!

First of all, the Mail app no longer crashes while using JAWS 2020!

That is huge!

The signature field is accessible with JAWS 2020,  and it is much more snappy when typing a message.

Also, messages read much better!

Yes, JAWS 2020 actually makes the Mail app a choice that will be a great one!

Glad you asked!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi kids. Has anyone played with the mail app using JAWS 2020? Anything

new? Any changes? Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: braille display going to sleep during windows login

Richard Turner
 

Which braille display does she have?
What software is she using?


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Michelle's Home Emails <m1stevens@...> wrote:

hi list

MY friend who is Deafblind is having problems where her braille display goes to sleep too quickly during login. Any way how to fix this so that it give a longer time to read information?  Jays 2019 pro windows vers 10


Kind regards
Michelle



moderated Re: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

David Moore
 

Hi!

The Windows 10 Mail app works a lot better with JAWS 2020!

First of all, the Mail app no longer crashes while using JAWS 2020!

That is huge!

The signature field is accessible with JAWS 2020,  and it is much more snappy when typing a message.

Also, messages read much better!

Yes, JAWS 2020 actually makes the Mail app a choice that will be a great one!

Glad you asked!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

 

Hi kids. Has anyone played with the mail app using JAWS 2020? Anything

new? Any changes? Thanks.

 

 

 

 

moderated Windows Mail with JAWS beta 2020

Lino Morales
 

Hi kids. Has anyone played with the mail app using JAWS 2020? Anything new? Any changes? Thanks.

moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Rayn Darren
 

I'm having the same issue with Outlook of the crashing of both Jaws AND Outlook itself. This has effected my use of outlook so much that I've had to switch to thunderbird. A fix for this issue would be wonderful as I love outlook and tolerate thunderbird.

Sarah

On 9/19/2019 7:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

John Covici
 

If any of you who are having out look crashes are on Windows 10 1903,
it might be that storage sense is deleting part of outlook -- at least
it happened to me, I could not run outlook at all, I had to turn
storage sense off and reinstall office 365.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 12:35:43 -0400,
Norma A. Boge wrote:

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[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi Loreal, I am having issues like yours with Outlook. I contacted FS but haven’t heard back yet.

As an aside, I contacted MS tech support and, although they fixed a problem not related to jaws, since my session with them I discovered my contacts and some of my calendar items are missing.

Just wanted to jump in and let you know you’re not the only one experiencing these issues.

Best, Norma





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10



After the initial repair, I called back again and spoke to a second agent. She appeared to have fixed the issue for the current moment, but on trying to replicate the success just now It seems to have gone back to the issue at hand.
Ironically, I can use almost all features of Windows Mail app and will use that instead for the time being.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10



Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10



Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900



Richard



Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.





On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an
issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.



Which versions do you have?









Richard



🖖 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10



So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10. Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason. Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with
Windows 10? I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.



Thanks!



Loreal



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Van Lant, Robin
 

Wow. I'm too young to recall that paper size naming convention, but old enough that my first printer in college was a tractor fed dot matrix, which was nice if you wanted to make a long banner.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

from a quick Google search:

The quarto paper size is 9 × 11 inches or 229 × 279 mm.
Foolscap is paper cut to the size of 8 1/2 x 13 1/2 inches (216 x 343
m), sometimes 13 x 8 in (330 x 200 mm).

-------- Original Message --------
From: CJ &AA MAY [mailto:chrisalismay@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2019, 1:44 PM
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document
It is a very long time, Robin, since I have seen fullscap paper. It was
longer than quarto but I think the same width.

When I learnt to type, this will show my age, it was on a manual
typewriter. In order to centre a heading you needed to count the
characters and subtract them from the width of the paper and then halve
that amount and press that number of spaces! How wonderful that we can
now just select a heading and press control e to centre it!

Alison

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Van Lant,
Robin via Groups.Io
*Sent:* 19 September 2019 16:14
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Allison,

Is fullscap paper essentially legal sized paper?  I have not heard these
terms before.  I’ll still see people here at work using legal sized
paper (8 ½ by 14) to print wide spreadsheets, but not generally for Word
documents. I

Robin

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *CJ &AA MAY
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto
paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I
may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me
realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the
paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Van
Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
*Sent:* 17 September 2019 17:07
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get
a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the
default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25
inches seems too wide to me.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Marty
Hutchings
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

*From:*Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<mailto:Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default
document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single
versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting
under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your
default is to do the following.

1. Open a new document.
2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to
Paragraph, then hit enter.
3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear
“Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box
and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set
to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter.
5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all
text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

*

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Marty
Hutchings
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of
print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I
can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the
page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents
that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx
files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have
also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they
are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second
page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Mario
 

from a quick Google search:

The quarto paper size is 9 × 11 inches or 229 × 279 mm.
Foolscap is paper cut to the size of 8 1/2 x 13 1/2 inches (216 x 343
m), sometimes 13 x 8 in (330 x 200 mm).

-------- Original Message --------
From: CJ &AA MAY [mailto:chrisalismay@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2019, 1:44 PM
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document
It is a very long time, Robin, since I have seen fullscap paper. It was
longer than quarto but I think the same width.

When I learnt to type, this will show my age, it was on a manual
typewriter. In order to centre a heading you needed to count the
characters and subtract them from the width of the paper and then halve
that amount and press that number of spaces! How wonderful that we can
now just select a heading and press control e to centre it!

Alison

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Van Lant,
Robin via Groups.Io
*Sent:* 19 September 2019 16:14
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Allison,

Is fullscap paper essentially legal sized paper?  I have not heard these
terms before.  I’ll still see people here at work using legal sized
paper (8 ½ by 14) to print wide spreadsheets, but not generally for Word
documents. I

Robin

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *CJ &AA MAY
*Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto
paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I
may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me
realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the
paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Van
Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
*Sent:* 17 September 2019 17:07
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get
a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the
default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25
inches seems too wide to me.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Marty
Hutchings
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

*From:*Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<mailto:Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io>

*Sent:*Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default
document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single
versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting
under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your
default is to do the following.

1. Open a new document.
2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to
Paragraph, then hit enter.
3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear
“Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box
and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set
to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter.
5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all
text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

*

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Marty
Hutchings
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of
print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I
can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the
page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents
that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx
files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have
also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they
are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second
page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Loreal, I am having issues like yours with Outlook. I contacted FS but haven’t heard back yet.

As an aside, I contacted MS tech support and, although they fixed a problem not related to jaws, since my session with them I discovered my contacts and some of my calendar items are missing.

Just wanted to jump in and let you know you’re not the only one experiencing these issues.

Best, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

After the initial repair, I called back again and spoke to a second agent.  She appeared to have fixed the issue for the current moment, but on trying to replicate the success just now It seems to have gone back to the issue at hand.  Ironically, I can use almost all features of Windows Mail app and will use that instead for the time being.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

CJ &AA MAY
 

It is a very long time, Robin, since I have seen fullscap paper. It was longer than quarto but I think the same width.

When I learnt to type, this will show my age, it was on a manual typewriter. In order to centre a heading you needed to count the characters and subtract them from the width of the paper and then halve that amount and press that number of spaces! How wonderful that we can now just select a heading and press control e to centre it!

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 19 September 2019 16:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Allison,

Is fullscap paper essentially legal sized paper?  I have not heard these terms before.  I’ll still see people here at work using legal sized paper (8 ½ by 14) to print wide spreadsheets, but not generally for Word documents. I

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Glenn / Lenny
 


There is a setting for that, I have never changed that, but it is a separate tab in settings.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

I take onboard what you are saying but what I like about MS Word is that you do have these options so can make use of them if you so wish, or turn them off. Personally I find the auto-numbering really useful and also I like that you can get MS Word to automatically indent paragraphs if you so wish. I like the ease with which you can make your document single-line or double etc.

Is there a way to get MS Word to show measurements in imperial rather than metric, does anyone know?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Word does a lot of things automatically that I have never liked.

Like if I put in a number, word assumes that the next line is a number and puts in a 2, and it is distracting to have to remove it.

I had to go in to settings and turn off numbers and bullets I think was the setting.

I also don't like the distraction of it spell checking as I go, so I had to turn that off too.

And I have disagreed with some of the grammar changes, so I had to turn that off too.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:01 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Brian, don’t assume it’s user error.  I just did an experiment.  I numbered each line in a word document with 1 inch margins and 12 point font.  With the paragraph settings changed as I noted in my earlier email, I fit 43 lines on the page and it looks like older versions of Word.  If I revert the paragraph settings to the default for newer versions of office, my list of numbers suddenly had 26 as the last line on page 1.  Unfortunately, this is a visual thing and you wouldn’t probably know that Office is doing this unless you had JAWS read out your position on the page.  I’m not sure why Microsoft started making this the default, but they did. The other default is that a wider space is put between paragraphs with a single press of the Enter key.  I’m old school and prefer to hit Enter twice to get my paragraph spacing.  Especially if I am making a list, I do not want Word to put extra space between items.

 

Happy to try to explain this more to anyone who is interested.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

Van Lant, Robin
 

Allison,

Is fullscap paper essentially legal sized paper?  I have not heard these terms before.  I’ll still see people here at work using legal sized paper (8 ½ by 14) to print wide spreadsheets, but not generally for Word documents. I

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

I trained as a secretary back in the late 1960’s when you had quarto paper (which I think was 40 lines to a sheet) and fullscap, which, and I may be wrong here, was 60 lines to a sheet. This topic has made me realise that it is a long time since I’ve seen fullscap paper and the paper we buy for our printer is certainly quarto.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 September 2019 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Glad to hear it Marty.  It’s one of the first things I adjust when I get a new copy of Office loaded.  The other thing I typically adjust is the default margins, as the default right and left margins set at 1.25 inches seems too wide to me.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Robin,  That did the trick.  Thanks.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

A big change starting in, I think, Office 2007, is that the default document has wider spacing between lines.  It’s different from single versus double spacing.  This new spacing I’m talking about is a setting under paragraph.  The easiest way I know to fix this and make as your default is to do the following.

  1. Open a new document.
  2. Hit the applications key to open the context menu and arrow down to Paragraph, then hit enter.
  3. In the paragraph dialog that opens, tab a few times until you hear “Before”.  In that box, type a 0 and then hit tab to the “After” box and type 0 again.  I think it’s the “After box that is usually set to “10 pt” by default and you want “0 pt”.
  4. Tab a few more times to a “Set as Default” button and hit enter. 
  5. You may need to hit an “OK” button after this to close the dialog.

 

If you have an existing document that you need to fix, simply select all text with Control A, then follow the steps starting at Step 2.

  •  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Why is it that in older versions of MS Word, I could get 41 lines of print on a single page using 12 point times new roman font and now, I can only get 27 lines of print with the same font?  I have checked the page size and line spacing and it is the same.  I have several documents that were created in Word 2000 and if I save them as Word 2007 docx files, they have more pages.  this is true for label sheets that I have also.  They used to be 10 labels in a column on one page and now, they are 8 labels in a column with the bottom 2 rows going onto a second page.  Can anyone help me fix this mess?



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moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

After the initial repair, I called back again and spoke to a second agent.  She appeared to have fixed the issue for the current moment, but on trying to replicate the success just now It seems to have gone back to the issue at hand.  Ironically, I can use almost all features of Windows Mail app and will use that instead for the time being.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Same here, changing folders are not a problem and in fact I rarely have any crashes under Windows 10 of either Jaws or Excel or Outlook which are the Office programs I use the most.

When I was still running Windows 7 Excel and Outlook often had issues and usually Jaws would crash in the process as well and while it’s hard to put an exact number on it, I would say crashes under Windows 10 are at least 90% reduced.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

Well, I have Windows 10 Home, but that should not make a difference.

I can change folders without any issue.

Have you tried talking with Microsoft Accessibility?

800-936-5900

 

Richard

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 



On Sep 19, 2019, at 4:16 AM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



hi Richard, I have exactly the same setup. Windows 10 professional, all updates installed. Office 365, Outlook 2016, again all updates installed. Jaws 2019, again all updates installed to latest Where I see it crashing or having an issue is when I go to change folders. if I stay in one folder long enough it doesn't seem to have an issue. But the second I go to change folders all of a sudden Outlook freezes and refuses to respond.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

 

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 09:16 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

No issues here with Outlook 2016 from Office 365 and Jaws 2019 and Windows 10.

 

Which versions do you have?

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

 

So I’m noticing that I’m having issues with Outlook on Windows 10.  Outlook continually and periodically keeps crashing for no apparent reason.  Is this an MS Outlook issue or has anyone else noticed this specifically with Windows 10?  I had some issues like this with Windows 7, but it seems like this is happening more frequently with Windows 10.

 

Thanks!

 

Loreal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

moderated Re: JAWS and Outlook on Windows 10

Loreal Lavigna
 

contacted Microsoft disability support. Currently running a repair on office and I'm supposed to call them back once the repair is completed.

Loreal Lavigna
Legal transcriptionist
www.facebook.com/transcripts byloreal

moderated Re: Number of lines of print per page in a MS Word Document

 

Alison,

                The following says "Powerpoint" but it applies to any of the Office suite programs where you're using the ruler:

Change the measurement units from inches to centimeters

In desktop versions of PowerPoint, you don’t have to use the measurement units PowerPoint comes with. A few clicks, as described below, change PowerPoint units, for example, from inches to centimeters.

Windows
macOSWeb

PowerPoint displays the measurement system your computer uses, so to change from inches to metric (or vice versa), you make the change in Control Panel in Windows rather than in PowerPoint.

  1. Close PowerPoint.

  2. Go to Control Panel by doing one of the following:

    • In Windows 10, click Start and type Control Panel.

    • In Windows 8, swipe in from the right edge of the screen, and then tap Search. (If you're using a mouse, point to the upper-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer down, and then click Search.) Enter Control Panel in the search box, tap or click Apps, and then tap or click Control Panel.

  3. Select the app that has Region in its name. (The exact name varies depending on which version of Windows you’re using.) The exact options that appear are different for various versions of Windows:

    • If you’re using Windows 10, Windows 8 or Windows 7, in the Region or Clock, Language and Region dialog box, click the Change Date, Time or Number Formats tab, and then click Additional settings. Select Metric from the Measurement system list, and click OK.

    • If you’re using Windows Vista or Windows XP, click the Regional Options tab, and then click Customize. On the Numbers tab, in the Measurement system list, click Metric. Apply the changes.

    • If you’re using another version of Windows, look for a Numbers option that includes a Measurements setting, and then change the value to Metric. Apply the changes.

  4. Start PowerPoint.

The ruler (and dialog boxes that show units of measure) now display measurements in the system you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

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