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Re: Java 6 and Access Bridge

Adrian Spratt
 

That's the point. I can't figure out how to install it.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Allen Stutts
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Java 6 and Access Bridge

Did you get the Access Bridge to work after installing 2.0.2? I have a Java
interface that I cannot get to work and would really like a solution.
Thanks.

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Oct 20, 2011 7:54 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Java 6 and Access Bridge

I've run into a problem installing the new version of Access Bridge,
which I discovered after installing the current Java update this
morning. I hope some of the following will save JAWS users some time
and trouble, but I'm also posting to seek help for the last step. FYI,
I'm using XP 32-bit
(redundant) and the latest update of JAWS 12.

1. The Java update proceeded normally until the installation stage. Be
warned: there's a checkbox here to authorize notifications of some kind
from Facebook. The default is checked. Once I unchecked the box (my
preference) and pressed spacebar on "Next," the installation went smoothly.

2. Then the alert appeared that for the changes to take effect, I had
to reboot. However, when I selected this option, I was taken to the
Java website and informed that I had out-of-date Java programs on my
system that are a security risk and so must be removed. The website
searched my system and found twelve items to remove via the control panel
add/remove programs.
I copied the list into an off-line document and went through the
time-consuming process of removing them. By the time I'd finished,
other than Access Bridge, the only Java program left was Java(TM) 6 update
29.

Tip: On XP, when the program you want to remove appears in the list,
tab five times to the remove button.

3. Then I rebooted.

4. Previous Access Bridge instructions indicated that whenever Java was
updated, Access Bridge has to be reinstalled. However, I learned
recently that Access Bridge has been updated to version 2.0.2. Here's a
link to the Oracle/Sun Micro webpage that explains how to download and
install this
version:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm

5. downloading is routine. However, Access Bridge 2.0.2 is a zip file.
When I unzipped it, I got a folder full of files. The ReadMe file
consists of a link that I copied just above. The first instruction is
to remove existing copies of Access Bridge. This part was routine, but
required a second reboot to finish.

6. Now to the problem. I am baffled by the Access Bridge 2.0.2
installation instructions. Instead of a wizard, we are told to copy
several files into several different Windows and Java folders, or so I
understand it. To my mind, some of these instructions are
contradictory, but presumably they make sense to a technophobe. I'm
copying the installation instructions below and ask if anyone can explain
and simplify them.


Installing Java Access Bridge for Windows 32-Bit


Follow these steps to install Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 on a Microsoft
Windows 32-bit system:

1.
Copy the following files to the specified destination directories,
where %WINDOWSHOME% is the directory where Microsoft Windows is
installed (for example, C:\WINDOWS), and %JAVAHOME% is the directory
where your JDK or JRE is installed. The following are examples of
directory names for Java SE 6 Update 24:

*
JDK: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_24\jre

*
JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6

Table 2-3 Java Access Bridge Windows Libraries and Related Files for
Windows 32-Bit

Java Access Bridge File Destination Directory

WindowsAccessBridge.dll

%WINDOWSHOME%\SYSTEM32


JavaAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


JAWTAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


accessibility.properties

%JAVAHOME%\lib


access-bridge.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext


jaccess.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext
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Re: Java 6 and Access Bridge

Allen Stutts <astutts@...>
 

Did you get the Access Bridge to work after installing 2.0.2? I have a Java interface that I cannot get to work and would really like a solution. Thanks.

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Oct 20, 2011 7:54 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Java 6 and Access Bridge

I've run into a problem installing the new version of Access Bridge, which I
discovered after installing the current Java update this morning. I hope
some of the following will save JAWS users some time and trouble, but I'm
also posting to seek help for the last step. FYI, I'm using XP 32-bit
(redundant) and the latest update of JAWS 12.

1. The Java update proceeded normally until the installation stage. Be
warned: there's a checkbox here to authorize notifications of some kind from
Facebook. The default is checked. Once I unchecked the box (my preference)
and pressed spacebar on "Next," the installation went smoothly.

2. Then the alert appeared that for the changes to take effect, I had to
reboot. However, when I selected this option, I was taken to the Java
website and informed that I had out-of-date Java programs on my system that
are a security risk and so must be removed. The website searched my system
and found twelve items to remove via the control panel add/remove programs.
I copied the list into an off-line document and went through the
time-consuming process of removing them. By the time I'd finished, other
than Access Bridge, the only Java program left was Java(TM) 6 update 29.

Tip: On XP, when the program you want to remove appears in the list, tab
five times to the remove button.

3. Then I rebooted.

4. Previous Access Bridge instructions indicated that whenever Java was
updated, Access Bridge has to be reinstalled. However, I learned recently
that Access Bridge has been updated to version 2.0.2. Here's a link to the
Oracle/Sun Micro webpage that explains how to download and install this
version:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm

5. downloading is routine. However, Access Bridge 2.0.2 is a zip file. When
I unzipped it, I got a folder full of files. The ReadMe file consists of a
link that I copied just above. The first instruction is to remove existing
copies of Access Bridge. This part was routine, but required a second reboot
to finish.

6. Now to the problem. I am baffled by the Access Bridge 2.0.2 installation
instructions. Instead of a wizard, we are told to copy several files into
several different Windows and Java folders, or so I understand it. To my
mind, some of these instructions are contradictory, but presumably they make
sense to a technophobe. I'm copying the installation instructions below and
ask if anyone can explain and simplify them.


Installing Java Access Bridge for Windows 32-Bit


Follow these steps to install Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 on a Microsoft
Windows 32-bit system:

1.
Copy the following files to the specified destination directories, where
%WINDOWSHOME% is the directory where Microsoft Windows is installed (for
example, C:\WINDOWS), and %JAVAHOME% is the directory where your JDK or JRE
is installed. The following are examples of directory names for Java SE 6
Update 24:

*
JDK: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_24\jre

*
JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6

Table 2-3 Java Access Bridge Windows Libraries and Related Files for
Windows 32-Bit

Java Access Bridge File Destination Directory

WindowsAccessBridge.dll

%WINDOWSHOME%\SYSTEM32


JavaAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


JAWTAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


accessibility.properties

%JAVAHOME%\lib


access-bridge.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext


jaccess.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext


Re: Jaws in a call center environment

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Never tried working from home, although we floated the idea a while
back. The hang up was not JFW, but the soft phone arrangement. I
needed some sort of one-touch option for answering. By the time one
switched to the appropriate app, and fumbled for the JAWS cursor, that
call would be gone to voice mail. We never got the problem resolved, so
here I remain with my huge VOIP telephone with the easily accessible
buttons. This was to have been a contingency plan for bad weather, as I
work 50 miles from home.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws in a call center environment

Ted, thanks for responding. I'd be interested to know how well JFW
works in
a work from home virtual call center environment. I've seen jobs
available
with Alpine Access. I tried working with Cloud 10, and that didn't work
well at all. If you'd be so kind, I'd like to know first how to find
jobs
with companies that have software that works with jaws, and how JFW
works in
these situations.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws in a call center environment

You'd better know it. I've been a Medicaid customer service rep and
trouble shooter since 1994, and a JAWS user since April, 1997. I'd be
glad to talk with you off list at either this address or
Tlisle@juno.com.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws in a call center environment

Hi folks! I wanted to ask if anyone has ever used jaws in a call center
work environment. I may be taking a job soon that requires me to work
in a virtual call center. I'm really interested to see how jaws reacts.
Anyone ever had experience with this before?
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Control Panel Windows 7

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,



Using the latest build of JAWS 12, JAWS will not read anything in the
Control Panel of Windows 7. Anyone have any ideas on what is happening?
All other aspects of the Windows 7 operating .system are working great.



Thanks in advance,

Mark



Mark D. Arnold

Director American Blind Golf

414 Allen Drive

Wadsworth, OH 44281-2119

Home: (330) 336-8654

Cell: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com



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Re: Java 6 and Access Bridge

Adrian Spratt
 

Whoops! In case anyone is still alert when you reach the end of my message,
copied below, I meant technophile, not technophobe. I must have been
thinking of myself!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Java 6 and Access Bridge

I've run into a problem installing the new version of Access Bridge, which I
discovered after installing the current Java update this morning. I hope
some of the following will save JAWS users some time and trouble, but I'm
also posting to seek help for the last step. FYI, I'm using XP 32-bit
(redundant) and the latest update of JAWS 12.

1. The Java update proceeded normally until the installation stage. Be
warned: there's a checkbox here to authorize notifications of some kind from
Facebook. The default is checked. Once I unchecked the box (my preference)
and pressed spacebar on "Next," the installation went smoothly.

2. Then the alert appeared that for the changes to take effect, I had to
reboot. However, when I selected this option, I was taken to the Java
website and informed that I had out-of-date Java programs on my system that
are a security risk and so must be removed. The website searched my system
and found twelve items to remove via the control panel add/remove programs.
I copied the list into an off-line document and went through the
time-consuming process of removing them. By the time I'd finished, other
than Access Bridge, the only Java program left was Java(TM) 6 update 29.

Tip: On XP, when the program you want to remove appears in the list, tab
five times to the remove button.

3. Then I rebooted.

4. Previous Access Bridge instructions indicated that whenever Java was
updated, Access Bridge has to be reinstalled. However, I learned recently
that Access Bridge has been updated to version 2.0.2. Here's a link to the
Oracle/Sun Micro webpage that explains how to download and install this
version:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm

5. downloading is routine. However, Access Bridge 2.0.2 is a zip file. When
I unzipped it, I got a folder full of files. The ReadMe file consists of a
link that I copied just above. The first instruction is to remove existing
copies of Access Bridge. This part was routine, but required a second reboot
to finish.

6. Now to the problem. I am baffled by the Access Bridge 2.0.2 installation
instructions. Instead of a wizard, we are told to copy several files into
several different Windows and Java folders, or so I understand it. To my
mind, some of these instructions are contradictory, but presumably they make
sense to a technophobe. I'm copying the installation instructions below and
ask if anyone can explain and simplify them.


Installing Java Access Bridge for Windows 32-Bit


Follow these steps to install Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 on a Microsoft
Windows 32-bit system:

1.
Copy the following files to the specified destination directories, where
%WINDOWSHOME% is the directory where Microsoft Windows is installed (for
example, C:\WINDOWS), and %JAVAHOME% is the directory where your JDK or JRE
is installed. The following are examples of directory names for Java SE 6
Update 24:

*
JDK: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_24\jre

*
JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6

Table 2-3 Java Access Bridge Windows Libraries and Related Files for
Windows 32-Bit

Java Access Bridge File Destination Directory

WindowsAccessBridge.dll

%WINDOWSHOME%\SYSTEM32


JavaAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


JAWTAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


accessibility.properties

%JAVAHOME%\lib


access-bridge.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext


jaccess.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Alice, I have no idea if this will help you or not, but will tell you what
happened to me just in case.

The constant crashing and error message thing while using I E is what
finally prodded me into downloading JAWS 12. I assumed that my out-of-date
JAWS and browser were the problems causing the crashes. I am glad I now
have JAWS 12 because it is a vast improvement for me. I still continued to
have the crashes though.

I plan to upgrade I E this weekend, assuming it was my out-of-date browser
still causing the problem. I saw some things on the Internet about browser
helpers potentially causing problems. When I checked manage add ons in I E
I discovered the google toolbar. I do not recall allowing it to be
installed, but I know it likely comes bundled with other software. I don't
even know what it is supposed to do, but remember hearing it could cause
problems for screen readers. I removed it through add/remove in the control
panel yesterday. I have not had any crashes since then. This may not be
the permanent solution because I could have a crash at any time, but it is
working for me so far.

Also note that I am just sending this out in hopes of helping Alice and my
assumptions are merely assumptions. I do not intend to steer anyone in the
wrong direction, but checking to see if the google toolbar is installed
certainly won't hurt anything.

I use XP and JAWS 12. As of this weekend I will be using I E 8 also. I
hope the crashes are history. I would cross my fingers, but then you
probably could not read the message.

Joni

----- Original Message -----
From: "alice dampman humel" <alicedh@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running


Hi,
Will this work to fix another problem, namely that when I go
to seemingly more and more websites, JAWS crashes them, I get
that send error report dialog box or the one that says something
about JAWS scripts called to say, then some words get spelled
out, and when I exit out of those boxes, the whole website goes
away, and I have to start all over? Sometimes if I disable JAWS,
then restart it, it works, but not always. This does not happen
if JAWS is not running in the first place, just as with Oscar's
problem.
My system is much older, XP and JAWS 9...
Thanks, and good luck to everybody fixing things!
Alice
alicedh@verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running


Try disabling the preview paine.
Windows key e for windows explore, shift tab twice until you hear
command
modual toolbar organize button and right arrow until you hear
preview pain
and if the box is checked, uncheck it.
Please write back if it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Oscar Corella
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I
have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in
both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that
has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: JFW with a VPN?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

No wonder we were never able to get it to work. One of my key apps was
accessed via Citrix, and I lost Access to important pharmacy information
for several years, until IT figured out a back door into the application
from our main interface.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW with a VPN?

Using a citrix or Windows remote desktop to work with a remote computer,
not
only do you have to have a version of JAWS on each machine, you also
have to
purchase an additional piece of software from Freedom Scientific, called

Remote Access, which has to be installed on the local machine, in oreder
for
you to be able to use JAWS on the remote computer to control the remote
computer from the local computer.

Remote Access, costs an additional US $200.00,.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: JFW with a VPN?


I've used a VPN with no problems. We used something called FireBox.
If you connect via Citrix, JAWS has to be loaded both at the server
and on
your client machine. That's kind of a pain.
The VPN was much, much better.
I'm not sure all VPNs work the same way.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: JFW with a VPN?

If I connect to work via a vpn, can JAWS read the screen???

thanks,

Ann


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Java 6 and Access Bridge

Adrian Spratt
 

I've run into a problem installing the new version of Access Bridge, which I
discovered after installing the current Java update this morning. I hope
some of the following will save JAWS users some time and trouble, but I'm
also posting to seek help for the last step. FYI, I'm using XP 32-bit
(redundant) and the latest update of JAWS 12.

1. The Java update proceeded normally until the installation stage. Be
warned: there's a checkbox here to authorize notifications of some kind from
Facebook. The default is checked. Once I unchecked the box (my preference)
and pressed spacebar on "Next," the installation went smoothly.

2. Then the alert appeared that for the changes to take effect, I had to
reboot. However, when I selected this option, I was taken to the Java
website and informed that I had out-of-date Java programs on my system that
are a security risk and so must be removed. The website searched my system
and found twelve items to remove via the control panel add/remove programs.
I copied the list into an off-line document and went through the
time-consuming process of removing them. By the time I'd finished, other
than Access Bridge, the only Java program left was Java(TM) 6 update 29.

Tip: On XP, when the program you want to remove appears in the list, tab
five times to the remove button.

3. Then I rebooted.

4. Previous Access Bridge instructions indicated that whenever Java was
updated, Access Bridge has to be reinstalled. However, I learned recently
that Access Bridge has been updated to version 2.0.2. Here's a link to the
Oracle/Sun Micro webpage that explains how to download and install this
version:
http://download.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm

5. downloading is routine. However, Access Bridge 2.0.2 is a zip file. When
I unzipped it, I got a folder full of files. The ReadMe file consists of a
link that I copied just above. The first instruction is to remove existing
copies of Access Bridge. This part was routine, but required a second reboot
to finish.

6. Now to the problem. I am baffled by the Access Bridge 2.0.2 installation
instructions. Instead of a wizard, we are told to copy several files into
several different Windows and Java folders, or so I understand it. To my
mind, some of these instructions are contradictory, but presumably they make
sense to a technophobe. I'm copying the installation instructions below and
ask if anyone can explain and simplify them.


Installing Java Access Bridge for Windows 32-Bit


Follow these steps to install Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 on a Microsoft
Windows 32-bit system:

1.
Copy the following files to the specified destination directories, where
%WINDOWSHOME% is the directory where Microsoft Windows is installed (for
example, C:\WINDOWS), and %JAVAHOME% is the directory where your JDK or JRE
is installed. The following are examples of directory names for Java SE 6
Update 24:

*
JDK: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_24\jre

*
JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6

Table 2-3 Java Access Bridge Windows Libraries and Related Files for
Windows 32-Bit

Java Access Bridge File Destination Directory

WindowsAccessBridge.dll

%WINDOWSHOME%\SYSTEM32


JavaAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


JAWTAccessBridge.dll

%JAVAHOME%\bin


accessibility.properties

%JAVAHOME%\lib


access-bridge.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext


jaccess.jar

%JAVAHOME%\lib\ext

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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

alice dampman humel <alicedh@...>
 

Hi,
Will this work to fix another problem, namely that when I go
to seemingly more and more websites, JAWS crashes them, I get
that send error report dialog box or the one that says something
about JAWS scripts called to say, then some words get spelled
out, and when I exit out of those boxes, the whole website goes
away, and I have to start all over? Sometimes if I disable JAWS,
then restart it, it works, but not always. This does not happen
if JAWS is not running in the first place, just as with Oscar's
problem.
My system is much older, XP and JAWS 9...
Thanks, and good luck to everybody fixing things!
Alice
alicedh@verizon.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running


Try disabling the preview paine.
Windows key e for windows explore, shift tab twice until you hear
command
modual toolbar organize button and right arrow until you hear
preview pain
and if the box is checked, uncheck it.
Please write back if it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Oscar Corella
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I
have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in
both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that
has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: Using MS office communicator with Jaws

Kimber Gardner
 

Thanks Eric. We are using office communicator 2007 and I have jaws 12.
This should get me started at least.

On 10/19/11, Bergen, Eric <Eric.Bergen@mtsallstream.com> wrote:
Hi Kim.
Which version of Cummunicator are you using, and which version of Jaws.
I also use Communicator at work.
Communicator 2007, and once someone has sent me a message I don't find
it too bad to use.
To read the message I believe you back tab once to history and you arrow
up and down from there to read the message.
To compose a message tab once which takes you to edit and you can just
start typing.
Hit enter to send the message.
I know this is not very much information, but if you have more
questions, do not hesitate to ask.
Eric.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Using MS office communicator with Jaws

Hi All,

My office has started using microsoft office communicator for instant
messaging and I'm not finding it particularly friendly with Jaws.

Are there scripts available to make it work better? Or if anyone has
experience with communicator and could give me some pointers I would
greatly appreciate the help.

Right now it's taking me so long to figure out where I am in the
application and where to type the message that it is far from instant
messaging.

Thanks in advance,
Kim

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Also make sure that your windows is up to date. Install all
recommended updates and also look what it gives you at optional
updates. This solved it for me the last time it happened a few weeks
ago

On 10/20/11, Oscar Corella <oscarcorella5@gmail.com> wrote:
I think that did the trick.
I disabled the preview pain and tested it several times and explorer did not
crash.

Thank you very very much.
I was ready to format and reinstall and that would have been many hours of
work.

Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Try disabling the preview paine.
Windows key e for windows explore, shift tab twice until you hear command
modual toolbar organize button and right arrow until you hear preview pain
and if the box is checked, uncheck it.
Please write back if it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Oscar Corella
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Rick Miller
 

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Oscar Corella <oscarcorella5@...>
 

I think that did the trick.
I disabled the preview pain and tested it several times and explorer did not
crash.

Thank you very very much.
I was ready to format and reinstall and that would have been many hours of
work.

Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Try disabling the preview paine.
Windows key e for windows explore, shift tab twice until you hear command
modual toolbar organize button and right arrow until you hear preview pain
and if the box is checked, uncheck it.
Please write back if it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Oscar Corella
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Try disabling the preview paine.
Windows key e for windows explore, shift tab twice until you hear command
modual toolbar organize button and right arrow until you hear preview pain
and if the box is checked, uncheck it.
Please write back if it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Oscar Corella
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
I have no answer to this one but I have seen this on several machines in my lab and it frustrates me to no end. If you find an answer, post it publicly, please.

Thanks,
Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Corella" <oscarcorella5@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running


Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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windows explorer crashing on win 7 when jaws running

Oscar Corella <oscarcorella5@...>
 

Hi

Got me a nasty problem I need to solve before the weekend as I have a 2-day
class to take.



New Dell laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

Latest Jaws 12 as well as 13 beta and the problem is the same in both.

If I open windows explorer I am fine till I open a folder that has files in
it. Then explorer crashes and I get error that says

Windows explorer not responding.



This does not happen if jaws is not running.



Any ideas?



Thanks



Oscar

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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Reading a Book in PDF Format

Rick Miller
 

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read it?


Rick Miller

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Re: Jaws 12 with a remote controller

Charles Coe
 

Hi,

According to their web page it appears this controller is made with the
visually impaired in mind and not the blind.
They boast large display and buttons.

If you are looking for a thermostat for the blind then there are ones on the
market designed with the blind in mind that talk as well as respond to voice
commands.

Charles

----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of TeddyBear
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:43 PM
To: JFW
Subject: Jaws 12 with a remote controller

Good evening list:

Does anyone know if the Bryant remote controller to program a thermostat is
accessible with Jaws 12?
I have tried asking the company, but they don't know about Jaws or how it
works. I don't want to spend the extra money to purchase this controller if
it's not going to work with Jaws.

thanks

Tracy


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